US Intelligence agencies warned the WH re the virus in November
As more info comes to light about the warnings the WH received about the severity of the coronavirus, a new report tells how US Intel reported the possible catastrophic even as early as November of last year.
This, along with Navarro's recently released memo, indicate Trump and his staff were well aware of the possible pandemic.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/politics … index.htmlThe WH gets warned of all sorts of threats all the time, this is about as big and legitimate an issue as the story about Trump having stock in hydroxychloroquine, in other words its totally inaccurate and false.
On Jan. 7, 2020, Chinese health authorities announced that they had isolated the virus spreading in Wuhan.
The Trump administration first made the announcement Jan. 31, 2020, that they would restrict foreign nationals recently in China from entering the U.S.
The World Health Organization recommended against any travel or trade restrictions in response to the outbreak, denouncing Trump's decision.
The Washington Post also bashed Trump’s travel ban using a Chinese ministry spokesman. Their article included a quote from the spokesman criticizing the travel ban and noting that it is against the WHO’s recommendations.
Sen. Chuck Schumer deleted a Feb. 5 tweet criticizing President Donald Trump's decision to ban some forms of travel to and from China.
On February 11, 2020 the disease was officially named COVID-19 and the virus that causes it, officially named SARS-CoV-2.
On February 11... 11 days after Trump acted, 11 days of the media bashing him as xenophobic, as having gone too far, of politicians coming out against him for doing even as much as he did.
And even then idiot politicians told their people to ignore the threat and go to parades and parties, fools like De Blasio and Cuomo.
March 2, 2020 NEW YORK (WABC) -- The first case of coronavirus has been reported in New York City. Both Mayor Bill de Blasio and Governor Andrew Cuomo said that the risk to New Yorkers remains low.
They held a press conference together Monday morning to provide an update. Governor Cuomo said he is more concerned about the perception and fear. "This isn't our first rodeo," the governor recalled SARS, MERS, Ebola, swine flu, etc.
The governor shared a story about explaining to his daughter why she should not be overly concerned.
"So far it does not seem to be a disease that focuses on our kids, in fact, the opposite," Mayor de Blasio said.
"The woman who tested positive, she's at home. She's not even at a hospital," Cuomo said. "We should relax."
So... if you think Trump acted slowly... what do you think about Cuomo and Blasio blowing it off as nothing, even as it arrived in NY?
If it weren't for Trump, things would be far worse, and many more would be dead.Got your usual Youtube video to link to, Ken?
You're getting a bit slack.... 
I doubt you even read the link I provided.Ken,
of course Randy of the reputable site police,
cites a CNN article based on an ABC article (says so in the CNN article with a link to the ABC article) both of which are getting their supposed information from anonymous sources and then quoting a retired Mulroy who knows nothing about a report’s details which the pentagon says didn’t exist.
Randy doesn’t even know the pentagon commented on this and said:
Wednesday night, the Pentagon issued a statement denying the "product/assessment" existed.
"As a matter of practice the National Center for Medical Intelligence does not comment publicly on specific intelligence matters. However, in the interest of transparency during this current public health crisis, we can confirm that media reporting about the existence/release of a National Center for Medical Intelligence Coronavirus-related product/assessment in November of 2019 is not correct. No such NCMI product exists," the statement said.
BTW the ABC article was updated to include the pentagon’s response but of course, the fake news CNN article doesn’t even mention it! CNN, Randy’s choice of a reputable site LOL.
CNN headlines, lying again, but ripe for Randy to parrot! Talk about reputable sites he wouldn’t know one if it was stuck in one of his doobies of which he has said smoking them makes him smarter! LOL
Come on Randy, This is clearly fake news...
First --
"The report, which CNN has not independently verified, raised concerns because of the disease's potential threat to US military forces in Asia, ABC News reported."
"The US military's National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) compiled a November intelligence report in which "analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event," one of the sources of the NCMI's report told ABC News.
The source told ABC News that the intelligence report was then briefed "multiple times" to the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon's Joint Staff and the White House.
Repeated briefings were held through December across the US government, including the National Security Council, culminating in a detailed outline of the threat in the President's Daily Brief in early January, according to ABC News, whose report cited four sources briefed on the matter."
Lastly,--- Statement was given by a real live source with a name and a face.
--- "NCMI denied the existence of the report later Wednesday, saying that "no such NCMI product exists."
"As a matter of practice the National Center for Medical Intelligence does not comment publicly on specific intelligence matters," said Colonel Dr. R. Shane Day, the director of the NCMI, in a statement.
"However, in the interest of transparency during this current public health crisis, we can confirm that media reporting about the existence/release of a National Center for Medical Intelligence Coronavirus-related product/assessment in November of 2019 is not correct. No such NCMI product exists," Day add"
s.Still waiting for your answer to my question.
The only one I asked in this thread. I won't waste my energy reposting it. If you were willing to answer you would have done it the second time I asked why you weren't answering it.
I responded to the only question I can find from you, Denise. If you don't want to ask it again, then hard cheese!
Here is your accusation you claimyou don't remember me questioning. What I'm implying is, Trump had foreknowledge about the seriousness of the coronavirus and wagered it wouldn't be as bad as predicted.
It's pretty clear what you are attempting to say. Whatever Trump may have known and when he knew it would follow the same timeline when every government in the free world would have been first alerted.
My question is are you encompassing all governments in this accusation? If not, please share why.
I just watched an interview with Dr. Fauci. He was running through the timeline of misinformation they received from China, why at different dates they chose different steps to take.
You need to explain why you've chosen to single out the American government, out of all responses worldwide, for your conspiracy theory. It appears it could be several things. Are we interacting with a partisan player whose only point is to try to disparage anything from the right...a CCP troll trying to shake any belief that the communist party in China carries any culpability for the outcome, or just a simple American too easily led by deceptive media reporting?
Please answer the first question posed and maybe we'll have an inkling of the answer to the question in the last paragraph.Perhaps this answer your question as to how Trump mishandled the virus, Denise.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics … li=BBnb7KzI'm confused. As Americans, we are understandably most concerned about the response from our own government . Have you closely followed the responses from governments around the world? I haven't, but even if I had, their competency or swiftness of response would have no bearing on the quality or timeliness of Trump's response.
Sure has a bearing on whether he knew what the rest of the world didn't though.
I don't recall anyone saying he knew what the rest of the world didn't, just that he chose to minimize the problem rather than take immediate steps to deal with it. It's LtL who wants to somehow compare that to what the rest of the world knew. It's irrelevant .
Minimize the problem or calm the population in an effort to prevent things like hoarding toilet paper (and food and gas and everything else)?
I understand that your point is to bash Trump at every opportunity, and that you see this is a tremendous opportunity to do so, but please! Have some common sense! It is NOT the presidents job description to create panic whenever he can.I can criticize the president any time I want It is my duty as a citizen to eva liars his job performance. I don't think I bashed him on this three-year at all. If you think criticism of job performance is bashibg, then I question your civics education.
Have you researched the actual timeline? What our government knew and when they knew it.
14 January 2020
WHO's technical lead for the response noted in a press briefing there may have been limited human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus (in the 41 confirmed cases), mainly through family members,
22 January 2020
WHO mission to China issued a statement saying that there was evidence of human-to-human transmission in Wuhan but more investigation was needed to understand the full extent of transmission.
WHO - 30 January
Director-General accepted the recommendation and declared the novel coronavirus outbreak (2019-nCoV)
11 March 2020
WHO - Deeply concerned both by the alarming levels of spread and severity, and by the alarming levels of inaction, WHO made the assessment that COVID-19 can be characterized as a pandemic.
January 20 First US case is reported: a 35-year-old man in Snohomish County, Washington.
January 29, 2020 --- TRump formed Coronavirus task force. Day, after WHO, notified him of a possible outbreak.
Feb 1
President The US and Australia said they would deny entry to all foreign visitors who had recently been in China, We had not yet had a death from Corinairus. (weeks before the virus was called a Pandemic by WHO.
February 29, 2020 First death
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and public health officials in the state of Washington have reported three hospitalized patients who have tested presumptive-positive for the virus that causes COVID-19, including one patient who died.
March 11 President Trump bans all travel from 26 European countries
March 13 Trump declares a national emergency over the novel coronavirus outbreak. Two days after WHO made the assessment that COVID-19 can be characterized as a pandemic.
The dates show the President took swift action to make an attempt to stop the spread od the virus and also show him quickly bringing together a task force to habdle what was to come.
This link gives day by day updates to every last thing the president has done from day one. Maybe keep an open mind and give it a read...
I have done a lot of reading on what was done and when you may just be surprised at what this team of people has accomplished.Feb 24:
"The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"
Wanta take a guess who said this, Shar?As of Feb 24th, we had one case of COVID19 in the US. We had one case in the country, and no deaths until Feb 29th. He had closed travel from China and created a task force before Feb 24th. It is very plausible when he made that statement he felt things were under control. From the moment he was notified by WHO that the situation was serious, his timeline speaks for itself. AS case count and deaths increased his efforts to do everything he could to prevent death and spread. Everything in his power.
I have researched his daily timeline. I posted it here for all to read. Some were not happy with the length of the timeline. But it is very informative.
January 20 First US case is reported: a 35-year-old man in Snohomish County, Washington.
February 29, 2020, First death
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and public health officials in the state of Washington have reported three hospitalized patients who have tested presumptive-positive for the virus that causes COVID-19, including one patient who died.
January 29, 2020 --- TRump formed Coronavirus task force. Day, after WHO, notified him of a possible outbreak.
Feb 1
President The US and Australia said they would deny entry to all foreign visitors who had recently been in China, We had not yet had a death from Corinairus. (weeks before the virus was called a Pandemic by WHO.
In my view, he has done a very good job all around handling this virus. I don't really care what he says his opinion. I care about results, what he is doing. In my view, he could not say anything or do anything that would satisfy some. That's just a fact.So it was "very much under control," Shar? Was that "just a fact?"
Trump's statements
Yes, Randy on Feb 24th it appears it was under control. Not only according to Trump, when he made that statement on Feb 23, but also according to Nancy Pelosi, and Joe Biden. onFeb 24 one day after Trump made the statement.
Trump's statements --- Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.” — Trump in speaking to reporters."
Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all the relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” — Trump in a tweet."
Now let's see what Nancy was up to on Feb Feb 24. nancy was in China town encouraging all to join her...
Trump had already closed our borders to travel from China on Jan 31 2020. and weeks later on Feb 24th Nancy offered an invitation for all to come to join me in China town. Trump also on Feb 24th formed his task for days BEFORE we had even One death of COVID19..
Feb 24th NANCY PELOSI --- Come join me in China Town!
https://abc7news.com/sf-chinatown-pelos … s/5964696/
Joe Biden -- Feb 1, 2020, one day after Trump put travel restrictions in regard to China
Around the time the Trump administration announced the travel restriction, Biden said that Trump had a “record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering.”
Biden used the phrase “xenophobic” in reply to a Trump tweet about limiting entry to travelers from China and in which Trump described the coronavirus as the “Chinese virus.”
So let me ask you a more realistic question --- Now that I have provided some facts about what had occurred around the time Trump made the statement in question let me ask you a few questions.
Due to information thus far did Trump, Pelosi or Biden overact in the time period Feb 24th? Does it appear at best Trump had taken some measures to protect our Nation from the virus? Did Nancy help by asking people to go out to dinner? Did Biden have the right to say Trump's closing air travel to China was racially motivated? Could have Trump at that point not been informed of the seriousness of the virus? A president relies on WHO and CDC to keep him informed of any pending health problems that could affect the nation. At that point neither had alerted the president this virus would become a pandemic. WHO's own timeline and documents prove this beyond a doubt. The timeline is easy to find on Google. I have posted it frequently and received crickets...
and with the task force keep abreast of what was happening day to day. It appears he wanted the virus to be closely monitored.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/busi … virus.html
I am not surprised. It would appear Adam Schiff is once again opening an investigation into how Trump handled the virus. Once again a road to nowhere. A nonsensical, nonfactual sideshow.
I say this once again simply why not find a good candidate? Seem so easy and actually doable.I doubt Pelosi or Joe had health professionals advise them as Trump did. Or do you believe they had access to them as well?
DOD report to congress on the virus. Jan 31,2020
https://news.usni.org/2020/01/31/report … s-outbreak
You're confused? I'm constantly confused by the hoops the left jumps through to find cause for complaint. We knew nothing that any other country didn't know. To believe otherwise is willful ignorance. With that knowledge, we can compare our response and our results.
I follow all of it. We are world residents, after all. Do you know the mortality rate in this country is less than half of that in many European countries? Why is that, do you think?
After this crisis is over there will be plenty of time to review our actions. To determine what was right, what was wrong and what could be done better.
Hopefully, by that time this petty, childish need to grasp at pitiful straws and create conspiracy theories in order to lay blame will give way to more adult and rational discussion."pitiful straws".
Lol, you're the one trying to measure Trump's performance by some weird, irrelevant marker,
History will judge.I agree. History will judge.
It does amaze me how you guys on the left think Trump is some type of god. He is the president, he isn't in charge of state responses and actions, he doesn't run the hospitals. There is so much the President of the United States isn't responsible for.- It's the Right who think "he's some type of god," Denise. He can do no wrong...he'll tell you so himself, and you'll believe it.
Yep, one even started a forum thread about Trump the God
Trump is Thor, the God of the common people
Oh my, you figured us out. We've always thought Trump was some type of God.
Lol, your insight id so very special.I saw an article on Yahoo yesterday about Trump lowering migrant farm worker wages. It kind of makes me wonder if people even know what a president does.
There is no evidence of Navarro's memos. Once again these are unproven reports. Navarro is Director of Trade and Manufacturing Policy? Not sure what he knew when I provided you a timeline on another thread that indicates the Trump ad. I was already taking measures in late dec in regard to the Virus. There "memos that CNN speaks of were reported to
Jan 29, can you produce a link of the factual memeos?
Randy I'm curious about something. Whatever intelligence we had, I'm sure every government in the free world had the same. Are you implying there was an international conspiracy to endanger lives throughout the world by ignoring this?
What I'm implying is, Trump had foreknowledge about the seriousness of the coronavirus and wagered it wouldn't be as bad as predicted.
Navarro got a memo, essentially saying the same thing.Are you saying every government in the free world wantonly disregarded credible warning and disregarded all human decency by wagering that human life wasn't important?
I'm just trying to wrap my head around the accusation. It's sounds like a conspiracy theory so I want to make certain I understand.Read the link I provided and make up your own mind, Denise. I simply furnished the link. The memo is easy to find if you wish to see it.
The point is we had no information every other government didn't have access to. Considering our actions, and theirs, your implications are the same for any government other than ours.
So, it's a simple question Randy. Do you stand behind the conclusions and accusations, knowing the accusation is against all world governments. Are you afraid or unwilling to answer?Not in the least, Denise. Trump had plenty of warnings about the virus, but he chose to wager on it not being as bad as foretold.
You are passing judgement on all the governments of the free world on that one Randy.
Those who can't do lay blame, I guess.First case reported Dec 1, 2019 in China
On Jan. 7, 2020, Chinese health authorities announced that they had isolated the virus spreading in Wuhan. In other words, China said it was not a threat.
How logical would it have been for Trump to do anything prior to when he acted in January?
When he did act, the World Health Organization and the Democrats in DC attacked him for it.
Keep supporting lies and spreading falsehoods Randy, it lets everyone know it doesn't matter what the facts are, so long as you can bash Trump and anyone you label a supporter of him.And Randy refuses to answer a single question. Since whatever we knew every other government in the free world knew also...isn't he also bashing every government throughout the world? Isn't he saying every politician throughout the world turned a blind eye?
The allegations are preposterous. He appears to know his allegations boil down to nothing more than partisan b.s. because he keeps ignoring the question.A link to "whatever we knew every other government in the free world knew also," would be helpful, Denise.
Why don't you just post another Right-Wing Youtube video, Ken? That's more your style.
Considering there were articles stating how human trials for the vaccine started around the exact same time as the government mandated shutdown of all non essential businesses, I think the WH probably was well aware of the situation as you said, but considering human trials were starting around this time tells me that the government was already implementing steps cure the virus if possible.
While I can't say Trump handled things the best, there's really not much more he could've done. As far as him downplaying the coronavirus to the media until he had no choice but to acknowledge it publicly as a threat, I tend to chalk that up to him trying to prevent mass hysteria. To quote Tommy Lee Jones, from "Men In Black", "A person is smart, but people are dumb and panicky and you know it." There's a lot of truth to that.
Heck a lot of corporations like Disney for example did the exact same thing. They kept downplaying the shut down to their investors to keep their stocks from free falling, and they still are. The government and big businesses know that if they told people the truth right away then people would be rioting in the streets. Stocks would crash. Crime would go up significantly if it hasn't already and it would make things worse than they already are.
Trump may be a lot of things but I'm sure even he knows this, which is why I think he was downplaying the threat for the longest time. Was he lying to downplay the coronavirus threat at first? Yeah but as i said before in another forum thread here. All politicians lie. Some lie more than others.And Trump lies more than anyone, Steve. Check out his stats.
Sure, need more than one?
https://www.axios.com/exclusive-navarro … 382a9.htmlThe memo if legitimate was composed on Feb 23,.. The president of Jan 23 had already placed a travel ban on China as well as a week later banned flights for the UK and Europe., February 29, we had our first US death. As well Trump had already formed the Taskforce to combat the virus.on January 31: The Trump Administration:
Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency? I guess we need further information from Navaro on what he knew that would have promoted him to write this alleged memo.
Not sure way Navarro would have had any input as of yet on Feb 23 we were already aware there was a brewing problem, but not yet had a death.?
PLus we have this ---
"--- "NCMI denied the existence of the report later Wednesday, saying that "no such NCMI product exists."
"As a matter of practice the National Center for Medical Intelligence does not comment publicly on specific intelligence matters," said Colonel Dr. R. Shane Day, the director of the NCMI, in a statement.
"However, in the interest of transparency during this current public health crisis, we can confirm that media reporting about the existence/release of a National Center for Medical Intelligence Coronavirus-related product/assessment in November of 2019 is not correct. No such NCMI product exists," Day add"I think you have your dates mixed up Sharlee. The Navarro memo in question was dated January 29, and Pres. Trump's China travel ban, (restriction?), was dated January 31.
But, and there is always a but, it does seem odd that Navarro's public statements—at the time—contradicted his thoughts in the memo.
To me, his public statements after the time of the memo, (1/29), were suck-up contradictions to what he said in his first memo.
Once again, to me, it sucks to have public officials think they have to publically praise the greatness of Trump as a preface or adjunct to their comments. It is embarrassing.
GAApparently, Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Alex Azar also warned President Trump multiple times about the threat and possibility of a coronavirus outbreak
At the beginning of January, Azar was notified by Robert Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, about the virus, which was at the time spreading through the Chinese city of Wuhan. Azar then notified the White House and sent a report to the National Security Council, The Washington Post reported.
Azar first briefed Trump about the threat the virus posed on Jan. 18 while the president was at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, according to both the Post and The New York Times.
Then, on Jan. 30, Azar briefed the president again on the virus, this time warning that it had the potential to become a pandemic, the Times reported. Trump reportedly told Azar that he was being alarmist.
Once again, to me, it sucks to have public officials think they have to publically praise the greatness of Trump as a preface or adjunct to their comments. It is embarrassing.
GA
I agree.
The timeline of Trump's actions don't really support your "orange man bad" position, do they?
After all he started restricting travel Jan 28 and closed travel to and from China on the 31st.
And we all know even at that time China and the World Health Organization were saying there was no problem, and to keep travel open.
Well, most of us know that. Those of us who want to know the facts.
March 20 report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kkw39g1pCQ
March 23 report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5ArBH19Cu4
I know China is now trying to play the blame America game, they are trying to appear to help the rest of the world combat it, but this is their virus, which they covered up rather than warning the world...
After all China was building hospitals for it weeks before America even had one known case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmgPVhubmQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoErujrHgAI
Did you forget how the media was handling this even in February?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRggIb5Je_wI so appreciate all your research to find factual information. It amazes me how some just grab onto a byline or article that has no resources what so ever. You make it very hard on some though.
- Shar, Ken never uses any links but Youtube. That's the only place he can find Right Wing propaganda to support his views.
Desperation at its worst.... Thanks, Its not worth arguing or debating, but it allows others who may read these threads easy access to information, for those looking to expand their knowledge.
Thank you for the correction. I agree Navarro's public statement contradicted the memos. Just my opinion but Navarro seems to be a "fast Talker", just seeming to make it up on the fly. In regard to the memos. At first, I thought the memos were fake due to the subject matter. However, I have not found any statement from him about denying the memos. So, they seem to be legitimate.
IT is apparent many in Trump's circle suck up to him. I think most play the game to stay in his circle. We know what happens if he is rubbed the wrong way --- you're fired!
Check again. The first deaths were reported early in February in the state of Washington.
And let's stop the games. Trump knew as he told the public, "before anyone else" and that means he had to know that delaying a public announcement or any kind of preparatory actions would end up in needless deaths.
He waited 3 months before he decided to stop calling it a "hoax." Or blaming Obama or the Dems.
If a man is that childish he cannot take responsibility and it results in American deaths, he does not belong in the White House.
For Trump, this virus was never about protecting anyone but his own power aspirations.No, you check... The first death was in Washington Feb 29, 2020
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/health/u … index.html
You need to check the timeline not on what Trump said but what he did. Not up to me to reprogram you.
Power aspirations? I guess that's why he has worked daily to do everything he can to stop the spread and death toll. DEAD it would do you good.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/time … ronavirus/
Come at me with facts, dates... Not a full out rantIf all you can use for your FAKE facts are right wing pro Trump references, your idea of superiority is on track with a wilted magnolia.
You are the one who needs reprogramming. Trump supporters are all flaming hypocrites who have guilt complexes up the wazoo.
When they aren't lying about Trump on a daily basis, they are beating Bibles and into religious conversion mode.
Fact: Trump called this virus a "hoax" But, here is the YouTube Ad your Liar in Chief tried to have banned before millions already saw it:
Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9& … fGUpS5s7yA
Do you want to pretend you don't hear the words out of Trump's OWN mouth too? Or that his face is not his?
I come at you with facts you cannot and dare not FACE. Cowards do that. Not adult women who pretend they are oh so superior.
You can't reprogram yourself much less anyone else. And who on earth would fall for your lil ole gal lies?You come at me with facts.
I see you did not address my link that actually proves you wrong for accusing me of posting a stat that was incorrect. No that was you... Our first death in the US was a Washington man that died on Feb 29th. GOT IT? Yes, I guess this will help reprogram you to a factual date.
"Lil ole gal lies" not sure what this refers to. I proved the date as being true. I made no other claims or babbled on about anything. I kept my comment precise and offered resources. Lies?
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Time for all guilt ridden Trump supporters to face the reality that we no longer trust Trump or your kind.
It was Trump who called this virus a :"hoax." Deny what millions of others heard him say.
If you right wingers think you will live off Dem state federal tax dollars, think again.l are not your cash cows. We can as easily cut out ALL federal funding and leave you and your Trump owned Federal government to rot. Who cares?Not sure where you feel you have the right to speak for all other citizens in America. I find this odd at best.
Not sure where you get the idea that those on the right ar living off tax dollars. My tax dollar had to be spent on supporting New York and New Jersey due to their lack of keeping a stockpile to handle this virus. My tax dollar will also go toward bailing out citizens as well as businesses due to this crisis. I will not receive any funds in regard to a government's cash supplements to being handed out due to the amount of money I make a year. Yet I have paid taxes up the ass.
So, keep your blanket opinion to yourself. You can cut off fed funding... Really, no there is one person that can initiate that, and that would be Trump. Luckily he has been very generous to all states during this crisis because if he had not been, you might be the one rotting. Yeah, who cares... Trump cared.
I didn't realize Ken worked at the WH, but apparently he did or he wouldn't be able to give us such inside info on what they knew about the virus. Either that or he watched the Tim Pool version on his favorite"news" source, Youtube.
There is a bit more context to consider Dr.Mark.
Just to whet your appetite;
"Earlier this year, Perdue said the adverse wage rate has set almost a $15 minimum wage for agriculture, noting "no other business in the country has that," according to the agriculture trade journal DTN.
The "adverse effect wage rates" are based on a USDA survey of what agricultural workers are paid in each state. It's $11.71 in Florida, $12.67 in North Carolina and $14.77 in California."
Here is a good explanation from NPR: White House Seeks To Lower Farmworker Pay To Help Agriculture Industry
GADespite what NPR might have you believe, wages on the farm are set by the farmer and worker. If I offer my farm workers one dollar a day none of them will choose to work. The president does not have anything to do with it.
Correct, although some commercial farms may be different, and even offer more for some types of labor. Believe me, anyone loading watermelons in 100 % humidity, and 100+ degrees all day, deserves a few more bucks for their efforts.
Would they work if you offered them $10 per hour? The point of the article was that there are rules in place that already require wages above the national wage, and the inferred point I took from your comment, was that the president was trying to cut laborer wages below minimum wage. Maybe I misunderstood your point.
I have not looked into this, and I am speaking to aboveboard employment—not under the table cash, but I think the NPR blurb means that any farmer that tried to legally pay less wages would get a visit from a government man.
The president, (of course, I am speaking of U.S. rules and practices), may not have direct t influence on what a laborer is paid, but their administration and the government certainly do.
GA
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First of all, the flu is killing more people still.Second, President Trump says that the coronavirus will go away soon. Why can't people just have faith in our President. He says there's nothing to worry about.
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Michigan Says It All About Coronavirus and the Political Divide
by Allen Donald 4 years ago
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 … s-protest/People in Michigan took to the streets and marched on the capital in Lansing, Michigan chanting "lock her up" in reference to Governor Gretchen Whitmer.Here we're seeing right-wing politics coming fully into play.1. Protestors...