“Poverty is ...

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

   the worst form of violence.” – Mahatma Gandhi
   
   What about this quote by Gandhi?
   
   ... what does it mean?

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      The0NatureBoyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Poverty is "to desire the material things civilization encourages people to have but not having a means to obtain them".
      
      For people who live environmentally poverty is "being in a location that was sparse of plants for food and/or water for surviving and unable to relocate to a place with a sufficient supply."

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         For people who live environmentally poverty, is "being in a location that is sparse of plants for food and/or water for surviving. It is being unable to relocate to a place with a sufficient supply of food, water and shelter."
         
         who lives "environmentally?" what does that word mean, here?
         
         To me, poverty is a lack of gold and all that represents gold.
         Poverty is a lack of ability to work with others, to have what others need, to get what others have. It is a lack of creativity and innovation. It is a lack of entrepreneurship. It is a lack of ambition, focus, attention and intention.
         Without hope, wish and will, one is a lump. A lump is someone sitting around in poverty with no motivation to get out.
         Kind of like the homeless.
         They languish in filth, inject themselves with heroin and throw their needles, trash and feces right where they lump. These people have transformed beautiful places into dumps. They are lumps in dumps.
         Poverty is violence to the human spirit.
         We need peace!
         How to achieve the peace which leads to prosperity!???

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            The0NatureBoyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            To live environmentally means "man who lives by the means man lived by before being evicted from the metaphorical 'garden east in Eden' which was open on the land without the creature comforts man have made since their evicted from the garden."
            
            So you are saying if man lived environmentally they would be in poverty?
            
            I say now that man focuses only on the things they have transformed from other life (Isaiah 7:14-22) into a things that blinds them to what life is really about they are "mentally impoverished" because should the things without self-reproducing properties disappear they would be unable to survive.

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      gmwilliamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      This means that poverty creates negative behavior, mindset, outlook, & consciousness.  People who are impoverished are steeped in negativity due to their dire circumstances.  Impoverished people are more likely to curtail their children's education in order to work to supplement family income thus condemning their children to generational poverty.  Impoverished homes are abusive homes because there isn't enough monies for even the necessities.
      
      Poverty breeds a hopelessness which plays a part in abusive behaviors.  Poverty also breeds a hopelessness which leads to criminal activity.  Impoverished parents are more likely to indulge in nefarious behaviors in order to make ends meets.   Poverty makes parents sell their children.  Poverty hardens the soul.  Poverty makes children very cynical & heartless very young.  Poverty creates thug culture.

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         The0NatureBoyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         GMW. your description is "mental property that prevents reasoning" caused by being dependent on that which man must produce rather than that with reproducing abilities. I 100% concur.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Poverty creates desperation.
         
         
         On the other hand, what is poverty, in all REALITY?
         
         Can we do with less and be happier? as The0 suggests?

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            So Jesus, went from house to house and never owned a house, or anything except the garments he wore. He and his disciples apparently lived in the hills and came into town (town to town) to preach and speak to the people. One time, Jesus performed the miracle of expanding the substance of fish and bread. No one had to buy the fish or the bread.
            
            Its a dilemma, down here, God.

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   MizBejabbersposted 6 years ago

   I looked up this quote, but I couldn't find it in his context, therefore, I don't know what he meant. I don't really agree with it taken out of context and threadbare. I'm not sure what poverty really is. Most of the kids my age grew up poor. It was right after WWII in a rural state, but I don't think we lived in poverty. Most of us had our basic needs met, but that was all. We struggled to go to high school and then college, and some didn't make it past the 8th grade.
   I think real poverty was when I saw the sharecroppers who lived in the Delta shacks. We took food and Christmas baskets to them during the holiday season and saw the cracks in the floor, the insects that crept through those cracks, and felt their cold with no heating systems. However, these poverty stricken people managed to live and love. They may not have been happy, but they were surrounded by loving families. This may not be the case in countries like India and in Africa. But these people were not subjected, as a class, to physical violence then. Today times have changed and many poor young are taken in what some term as "white slavery" or prostitution, but Gandhi isn't alive to be speaking of today.
   I think it would have been more appropriate for him to have said that poverty is an insult to mankind, not a form of violence.

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      PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      This is a really thoughtful teply, Mizbejabbers.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      MizB, I was born in real Louisiana the February before "the European's 2nd  war" ended to a farming daddy. We had our basic needs, like you, but little else and never considered ourselves in poverty. At 8, four years after my dad left mom, we moved to Fort Worth, TX where we two older boys worked to provide our basic needs but never considered ourselves in poverty. Thus, I actually say poverty is "an induced state to attempt to 'shame man-en-mass for their lack' for us to serve the wealthy to get the things they make to further exalt them with us serving their purpose."

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

   Poverty is the worst.
   Prosperity is the best.
   
   Shouldn't we do what we can to promote prosperity?
   
   Isn't prosperity our hope, (and common concern) with Trump?
   Why do we fight against someone who is really and truly trying his heart out to help us?
   He is trying to promote a good economy. That, is his bottom line.
   
   We should be grateful.
   Not hateful.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Prosperity is merrily having an abundance of "man made stuff" by your statement. I have prosperity because I am not dependent on man-made-stuff.
      
      Poverty, by your thinking, is to not be focused on man-made-stuff for focusing on the purpose of life. You should sit and talk with the homeless people concerning their views on life, a great many of them would shame preachers and teachers of "what the rich want taught to man-en-mass to keep them serving them."

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

   Socialism actually promotes poverty.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

   “What we are doing to the forests of the world is but a mirror refection of what we are doing to ourselves and to one another." - Mahatma Gandhi

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      The0NatureBoyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      That is a true statement, the forests have the means of reproducing but "raping" the minds of man prohibits our ability to overcome such conditionings.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

   Poverty is not giving children appropriate environments for learning, loving and growing at the appropriate time in their lives, 0-6.
   
   Poverty is not understanding the needs of the child: The Universal Child as it very slowly eases into adulthood.
   
   The homeless are misunderstood, mistreated, and unloved children which still exit with un-met needs, hurts and frustrations ... somewhere in the depths of their adult Selves.
   
   T W I S I

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      The0NatureBoyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      "Common Core" and "schooling before 6" rather than allowing children to educating themselves during those years is the main reason we have the "misunderstood, mistreated, and unloved children which still exit with un-met needs, hurts and frustrations" that sometimes leads to homelessness.
      
      The rich understanding the one called Jesus was obtain because he rejected his parental teachings when he became an adolescent, age 12, and became a wonderers and then told any who dare to follow his example to do the same. However, that would prohibit the people from becoming controlled because it would educate to a 360 degree vision of life rather than the "tunnel vision of desire".

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYCbdQ2uF8c

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   edhanposted 6 years ago

   I guess that poverty can create disaster as when one gets desperate, he might do bad things he will never dream of doing. It may not be the desire of the person to commit bad things but in such situation, it will not be in control.

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   Live to Learnposted 6 years ago

   I'd say it is the worst form of violence because it is a condition that doesn't need to exist. So any violence entailed in simply seeking to survive was preventable, if we truly cared about each other.

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