President Trump's Lies and Misinformation about the Coronavirus

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  1. crankalicious profile image89
    crankaliciousposted 4 years ago

    Please post below something President Trump has said that's untrue about the Coronavirus or anything to do with it.

    Please provide a link to the statement.

    1. crankalicious profile image89
      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Here's a fun video detailing Trump's misinformation about the Coronavirus. From a liberal source, but disagree if you want:

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/opin … virus.html

    2. crankalicious profile image89
      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Another completely misleading statement by the President about masks:

      https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/202 … ip-vpx.cnn

    3. crankalicious profile image89
      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      President Trump lies about shaking hands in India.

      https://theprint.in/in-pictures/donald- … ue/380650/

      Transcript of the lie:

      https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-st … ource=link

    4. crankalicious profile image89
      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      President Trump insists testing is going great on March 7:

      https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-st … tlanta-ga/

    5. crankalicious profile image89
      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Trump says FDA approved drug treatments exist for Coronavirus:

      https://www.foxnews.com/science/french- … n-covid-19

      But they don't:

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/heal … quine.html

    6. crankalicious profile image89
      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Trump touts a drug that hasn't been approved. Man tries it and dies.

      https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/health/a … index.html

    7. crankalicious profile image89
      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this
      1. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        "General Motors and Ventec Life Systems said Friday they have agreed to build critical-care ventilators at one of the automaker’s components plants in Indiana.

        The deal, which includes FDA-cleared ventilators shipping as soon as next month"

        https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/gm-conf … icism.html

        1. crankalicious profile image89
          crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          I am glad it is true now! Wasn’t when he said it.

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Don't know that they have constructed even one yet - if they have it was completely by hand.  But they are re-tooling in order to start production and expect to produce 10,000/month in full production.

            Is it worth the effort to bring up that while the process of constructing a production line has begun, not a single ventilator has been actually made, just in order to nitpick the label "LIAR" again?  Do you ever wonder why no one, that is not already on the Bash Trump bandwagon, doesn't pay much attention to such claims?

            1. crankalicious profile image89
              crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

              Do I ever wonder why no one who supports Trump doesn't pay attention to his lies?

              I guess. It's clear to me that they're brainwashed by Fox News. I have been reading Fox News regularly and they're Trump sycophants. Breitbart is undoubtedly worse. Yet, independent research has shown that Fox News spews more lies than other networks. So I can see how those who have been watching Fox News, not bothering to check their facts independently, would get behind their support for Trump. Having followed Fox News, almost everything on Hubpages in the forums of a conservative bent is a parroting of Fox News.

              Right-Wingers, you being an exception on this point, come from a highly religious background where facts matter little generally. It's faith that matters. Faith matters more than science. God matters more than science. Faith matters more than facts. This background does not comport with truth-seeking. Religion is the most important thing and anybody who doesn't believe as they do goes to hell. That view is being reflected in their politics and always has.

    8. crankalicious profile image89
      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Another good article compiling Trump's lies:

      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-co … d80959966f

    9. crankalicious profile image89
      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this
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      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this
      1. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this
        1. crankalicious profile image89
          crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Unfortunately, Matt Margolis is clearly not trustworthy in any way. Many of Trump's lies are direct quotes.

          Just as an example, the disintegration of the pandemic team is an example of something that happened under the Trump administration. He doesn't want to take responsibility for it, but it still happened under him. In fact, John Bolton was the person who disbanded the pandemic team. And it wasn't really that he disbanded it, but clearly a lot of people left or were pushed out. Trump hired Bolton. To say that he knew nothing about it or had nothing to do with it is a management style called "passing the buck". Most Presidents in the past have taken responsibility for implementing their agenda whether directly or through subordinates.

          The mortality rate is another thing. I'm not sure I've seen that, but I have heard him saying that it would all be over soon and downplaying the seriousness of the virus many times.

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            LOL  Of course he isn't trustworthy; he isn't on the bash Trump bandwagon.  Yes, may of the "lies" are direct quotes...shortened to give a false impression and taken out of context. 

            So the disintegration of the pandemic team didn't happen, yet you say "the disintegration of the pandemic team is an example of something that happened under the Trump administration".  Again, only a part of the story, as you continue on to explain.  Which was also in the link I gave; that the team was down-sized as it was top heavy and needed pruning. 

            Yet everything we hear is that it was disbanded.  Not pruned; disbanded.  Ended.  Disintegrated (your term).  Gone.  No longer in existence.

            All of which is totally false; a part of the story is given, spun and used to give a totally false impression.  Which is what I have often said about the news we hear, and specifically about the so called "lies" of Trump.

            Trump predicts a quick end to the outbreak, attempting to calm the population and prevent a complete meltdown of the economy.  While I disagree with him (I think the worst, much worse, is yet to come), isn't that the the task of the politician?  To calm the population and maintain a semblance of order?  He's been taken to task for fear mongering over the outbreak, now he is taken to task for calming words?  Is there nothing he can say or do that would be found "right" somehow?

            1. crankalicious profile image89
              crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

              You are correct about the pandemic team issue and I've had to correct a number of people who have simply repeated the content of a meme that went around.

              The accurate thing to say is that the pandemic team was severely reduced in size under the Trump administration's leadership. That is accurate. We don't exactly know why, but it appears that most of the team was given an ultimatum where they could quit or be fired. It's also consistent with Trump's overall strategy of reducing government entities he doesn't believe serve any purpose. Also, Trump doesn't trust science. How can any legitimate scientist work for him? This is the crux of pretty much everything with Trump - he doesn't believe science or understand it - a huge failing that deserves unrelenting criticism.

              This is just where we are as a society. To explain the complexity of why the team shrunk requires more than a headline's worth of words, but most people simply do not have the patience or intelligence to engage with the overall explanation, so headlines are used to distill the essence of the issue. Most often, they are not entirely accurate no matter who writes them. They're intended to get people to read an article or engage with the issue. They don't. They just regurgitate the headline.

              Trump is bashed because most people, at least the ones I know, judge him to be a bad person. He has said himself that he knows more than the experts. Anybody who would say such a thing is stupid, mean, ignorant and many other things. So this is why he's bashed, among other reasons. He treats people like disposable pieces of garbage and he's treated like he treats others.

              If you want me to compliment him for doing something right, I can easily do that. His decision to let Dr. Fauci take the lead during his press conferences has been a great decision. It's tragic that Trump feels the need to get up and talk and undo the information that Dr. Fauci provides though.

              1. crankalicious profile image89
                crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                Here's a fun tweet from Rudy Giuliani courtesy of some right-wing bloggers. Not sure if this whole thing is true or if Rudy really did tweet it, but here it is:



                https://hubstatic.com/14940991.jpg

              2. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                And here we go again, bashing Trump without any possible supporting evidence.  "We don't exactly know why <the pandemic team was downsized>."  So you will speculate, using your opinions as factual to make up an answer as degrading as possible.  Shame.

                "Trump is bashed because most people, at least the ones I know, judge him to be a bad person."  And why do they judge him to be a bad person?  Because he has suffered the biggest pogrom in the history of our country to debase and denigrate a single man.  Not because he is actually bad, but because so many thousands of people, with the power to communicate and convince, have told you so.

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                  PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  If the quality control department of your business fell apart under your leadership, resulting in costly time delays and dangerous procedures would you take responsibility?

                  1. wilderness profile image95
                    wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                    Fortunately, that did not happen, so is an irrelevant question, designed to do nothing but produce another opportunity to bash Trump without any supporting evidence at all.  Shame.

                2. crankalicious profile image89
                  crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  C'mon, Wilderness. He's judged to be a bad person because of what comes out of his mouth - the constant lies and the horrible things he says about people and the way he treats women. Lies and cruelness are the hallmarks of bad people.

                  And Bolton downsized the pandemic team. There's no question about that. The team resigned in mass. You're talking about an administration that doesn't believe in science and a President who believe he knows more than the scientists. If you're a scientist, could you work for somebody like that? Experts across government quit when Trump became President because he doesn't fundamentally believe in what they're doing and he didn't want them around.

                  1. Randy Godwin profile image61
                    Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                    A waste of time arguing with Dan, Crank. He's invested in Trump, like others on these political forums. Hear no evil...and all that shit! sad

    11. crankalicious profile image89
      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this
    12. crankalicious profile image89
      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Trump quote from March 16:

      “This is a very contagious — this is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible,” he said. “But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.”

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … al-moment/

    13. crankalicious profile image89
      crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Here are Trump's responses to the virus in his own words:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics … Fstory-ans

      1. Randy Godwin profile image61
        Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Good link, Crank. the graphics of the virus was kinda scary though.

        1. crankalicious profile image89
          crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          You know, Randy, as much as Ken's self-righteous news sourcing leans toward right-wing conspiracy theory web sites, I do happen to agree with him that CNN is absolute garbage along with most TV news.

          So I paid for a Washington Post subscription and am trying to reconfigure my other online news sources.

          1. Randy Godwin profile image61
            Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            A news source is only as good as the one who reads it, that is, able to cut through all of the BS and get to the facts.

            1. crankalicious profile image89
              crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

              Oh, sure, but the more BS, the harder it is to get to the facts.

              1. Randy Godwin profile image61
                Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                It's easy enough to fact check any sites reporting, or compare it to other reporting sources. It's a chore, but well worth the time, no matter where you get your facts.

 
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