Trump lives in fantasy world that he creates and puts out the Real Fake News. Here are his lies and misinformation for the week ending 9/2/2018 according to AP News Fact Check.
Peoplepower, here is another interesting story. I thought that the New York Post was the conservative brother of the New York Times.
Trump is the gift that keeps on giving. Check out why he is mad at Sessions for prosecutions of 2 GOP congressmen who are up to their necks in illegal and nefarious activity, and Trump finds a way to blame Sessions for doing his job.
Looking at a synopsis of the individual cases of each Congressman, their behavior has been dastardly and there remains nothing to redeem them.
I can't believe that Duncan Hunter would blame his misappropriation of campaign designated funds on his wife. These people have NO character at all.
https://nypost.com/2018/09/03/trump-bla … lawmakers/
I read through the article. I'll be honest, it really does appear to be a lot of nit picking and not much proof of lies. I'll take one example. The black unemployment rate was listed at a historic low of 6.8% in December of last year. The article said Trump quoted 5.5% when it went up to 6.6% in July. Thus, calling him a liar. If both numbers were lower than 6.8% which was considered a historic low and all numbers quoted represent lows achieved during his administration is he a liar or is this an example of nitpicking?
You be the judge.
LTL: You just nick picked one example. How about all his other lies and misinformation?
Even if half his lies are forgivable exaggerations (which they are not), that's still a lot of lies.
Well, another was the statement claimed to be a lie where he told the Mexican president, during a phone call, that the deal with Mexico was big. The article said it was a lie because we did more business with Canada. That,to me, was also nitpicking. He was having a conversation with the Mexican president. I would think that would fall more into the category of attempting to make sure the guy knew we appreciated the relationship, not where he stood on the balance books.
Don't know as I'd bother - it won't matter how many examples you give you will be asked for more, for the point is not to find truth but to degrade the President of the United States.
Wilderness: Trump degrades himself by all of his constant lying, misinformation, and exaggerations. Oh, I know none of that matters to his supporters, because they think his job performance is outstanding. However, they will believe what Trump says and ignore the real facts, like those listed in the AP Fact Check article at the introduction to this forum.
PP, not one of those in the article can be unequivocally relegated to lie. Not without bias. Why is your ignoring facts because of your bias justified and another not?
It is sad, but wilderness is correct. These are not attempts to highlight truth, nor did this thread begin from a desire to find it.
Bozo Trump degrades himself and this once great country every single day with his serial lying, crazy made up stories and conspiracies and maniacal twitter babblings, rants and self absorbed sobbing and crying and now that he's considered an un-indicted conspirator by many legal experts, if we still have laws he should soon be crying and moaning from the inside of a musty prison cell for the rest of his life:
Maybe wilderness and Live to Learn should read these two stunning articles, or they can simply deny they exist if it makes them feel better:
"President Trump has made 4,229 false or misleading claims in 558 days"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac … 1f912eebd2
"It’s True: Trump Is Lying More, and He’s Doing It on Purpose"
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-f … on-purpose
Jake: Wow and double Wow! Thank you for posting those two links. It just blows my mind how his supporters could care less about his behavior. It is like they are under his spell and not willing to see him for what and who he really is. They want to believe everything he says and does.
The coal miners are literally thrilled to death that they are going back to work and could care less about not only pollution of the country but pollution of their own lungs. Here is an article from the Union of Concerned Scientist.
https://www.ucsusa.org/clean-energy/coa … -pollution
I read the article PP provided because I respect him. That's about the only thing I require to verify it won't be a total waste of my time.
LTL: Thank you, I think? I'm surprised and at the same time appreciative of your admission of respect.
I don't have to agree with you to respect that you have arrived at a disagreeable opinion through personal experience and thought. And, you appear to be a bona fide human being. Not a paid to post rabble rouser.
I agree that Trump degrades himself and says stupid things...to approximately the same extend the TDS crowd, virtually slavering for dirt on him, does the same to themselves.
Evens out pretty well as far as I can see, so there is little to choose from in picking a "side". Both exaggerate enormously, both lie consistently - why is one better than the other outside of one being legally elected to the highest office in the world?
The easy counter to "TDS" whatever that means is probably "TWD" ~ "Trump Worship Disorder"
I think we could really get this one rolling Wilderness.
I agree with your comment, particularly the first paragraph. But ...
If Woodward's book blurbs turn out to be true, even considering what you and I might consider as beneficial changes; NAFTA, the Iran deal, the tax cuts, the repatriation of off-shore monies, etc., wouldn't that put a dent in your confidence in your reliance on the TDS syndrome as an explanation for the anti-Trump tirades?
Wilderness: The difference is Trump's lies have consequences for the whole world to see and hear and they are documented in so many different ways to prove he is lying.
As president, he took an oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help him God. He didn't take an oath to lie and tell half truths or what he calls truthful hyperbole, which is an euphemism for lying and exaggerations.
He works for us and us owes that decency. But sadly I don't think he is capable. It is getting more blatant everyday.
Woodward's 448-page book, 'Fear: Trump in the White House'
Out of all these revealing books about our presidents, this is the only exposé I've had any desire to read
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