Wisconsin Assembly Votes to Reclaim Wisconsin’s Electors for President

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   Readmikenowposted 2 years ago

   Could this be a growing trend?
   
   "Last night, the Wisconsin Assembly has unanimously voted to withdraw its 10 electoral votes that contributed to the certification of Joe Biden’s controversial victory following the hotly contested 2020 Presidential Election."
   
   https://www.newswars.com/wisconsin-asse … ral-votes/

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      Fayetteville Fayeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The presidential election of 2020 was not hotly contested. President Biden won in a landslide and William Barr, The FBI and the department of Homeland security all agreed the election was probably the most secure in our history. This nonsense needs to stop.  These people look ridiculous and these outlets  who give them time guilty of spreading mass misinformation. The source that you quote, this is Alex Jones creation? The individual who said Sandy Hook never happened? And was sued for defamation and lost? He is honestly a sickening individual and I'm never that strongly worded toward any one person but he is reprehensible and I'm glad the parents took him on.

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         Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         "William Barr, The FBI and the department of Homeland security all agreed the election was probably the most secure in our history"
         
         Now THAT is some good propaganda.
         
         Sorry you live in a state of denial, but there are millions of people who do not.  The 2020 election results remain contested in several states for some very obvious reasons.
         
         I said shortly after the election, this isn't going away, and it hasn't.
         
         Living in denial of the concerns of tens of millions of people is only making the situation worse.  Democrats only have themselves to blame for what is happening and growing.

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            Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Democrats only have themselves to blame for millions of people believing a known liar and conman whose claims have been debunked and that those same people refuse to accept?  And that hundreds of his followers were inspired to engage in an act of domestic terror against their own country.  Or whose followers have made nearly 1,000 domestic terror threats against elections officials since November 3?
            
            At what point do you realize that you are spreading the propaganda of a United States domestic terrorist organization?

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               Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Nothing you said will change anything.  Keep saying what you're saying, and you are just feeding the fire.  Don't you see that?  You see things different that tens of millions of people.  This won't go away.  It is only increasing.

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                  Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  You're right, I do see if differently because I can identify easily proven falsehoods.
                  
                  Once this group of millions sees that turning to violence and threats because they believe lies will send them to jail, they will have the opportunity to reevaluate their choices on who to trust.
                  
                  And for the love of God, fact check your threads:  https://news.yahoo.com/trump-supporters … 38332.html
                  
                  https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/pol … 223622002/
                  
                  You've got one nut job who proposes something and then gets immediately shot down by the rest of the assembly.  So, no, the Wisconsin Assembly did not vote to withdraw their electoral votes.  They followed procedure to advance this one nut job's bill, where it will not be taken any further.  That's a big difference between your far-right media's claim that Wisconsin withdrew their electoral votes.

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         GA Andersonposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         A 4.5 % majority is a landslide victory? A quick look-around finds different information. For instance; there is one claim that Pres. Biden's 7 million-vote win was driven primarily by California and New York, (5 mil. + 2 mil.). It appears Biden also topped out with critical wins in 3 states. So did Trump, but Trump won his 3-state push by 3 times the vote of Biden's 3-state topper.
         
         I don't see a landslide in any of Pres. Biden's numbers.
         
         GA

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      Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      This is one of those times when your far-right media is feeding you easily provable false information and then you come onto this forum to show that you lack the most basic of fact-checking skills.   But I knew you would post a thread like this as soon as I saw mainstream media debunking the claim.  Thanks for proving me right.
      
      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac … 231893002/
      
      https://www.channel3000.com/fact-check- … joe-biden/
      
      https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 … -bidens-e/

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      TheShadowSpecterposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      A lot of people want to remove Joe Biden from the White House and for very good reasons.  Even Chuck Todd on NBC has been badmouthing him and pointing out his falling approval rating.  In any event, here is the pressing question.  If Wisconsin does ultimately withdraw their 10 electoral votes that contributed to the certification of Biden's "victory" and other states follow suit insofar as Biden falls below the 270 electoral votes needed to be president, what will come next?  Will the Electoral College step up to the plate and remove Biden from the Oval Office and give Donald Trump a second term in office?  It's a pleasant thought; but when you consider how the Supreme Court of the United States chickened out of doing anything about it when they still had the chance, it makes one wonder if a stolen election can really be successfully returned to its rightful winner.  Let's all hope for the best.  Joe Biden got off on a bad foot with the American people.  There were even former supporters of his attending his presidential campaign rallies and yelling out threats against him before November of 2020.  It is beyond my comprehension how he would have been voted into the Oval Office in spite of everything.  It makes no sense that anybody would even be cheering in his corner after all the problems he has caused our nation in the one year that he has been living in the White House.

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         Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         It wasn't that Biden was voted in, he wasn't the top choice by many.  But he was the best candidate to appeal to conservatives as he was a moderate white guy with experience.  So he was the best candidate to get people on board to vote Trump out.  What you 40% of people who are die hard Trump supporters cannot grasp is that the other 60% disapproved of him with an equal amount of passion.
         
         And Wisconsin will not be withdrawal their electoral votes.  This is a fantasyland thread.

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            Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Watch Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake handle a reporter who asks her about the 2020 election.  As I said before, this is not going to go away.  This is just one of many stories appearing on this topic just today.
            
            "ABC Reporter Tries Gotcha Question on Kari Lake, So She Flips the Script in Brutal Take Down of MSM"
            
            https://www.westernjournal.com/abc-repo … QjWIMv8kk0

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               Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               So she repeats things that were already debunked by Maricopa County and that she refuses to accepts.  If you call displaying the desire to live in a fact-free universe a brutal take down, I would disagree with that.

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                  Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  "So she repeats things that were already debunked by Maricopa County and that she refuses to accepts."
                  
                  NOTHING has been "debunked."
                  
                  The left is failing to realize there is going to be a huge number of Republicans elected next year to Congress and the Senate who have the same questions as Kari Lake.  THEN, the Democrats will no longer have the ability to hide things.

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                     Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     This is called a debunking.  93-pages of it.  Happy reading.  I'd be shocked of any of those far-right clickbait sites you frequent reported about this.
                     
                     https://recorder.maricopa.gov/justthefa … Report.pdf

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                        Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        There are those who say this report has been debunked.
                        
                        It changes nothing.

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                           Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                           There are those?  That's a very Trumpian way of saying I heard a rumor from my neighbor who heard something in a chat room.  And I just searched the first four pages of a google search and not one link came up doubting the results.
                           
                           It changes nothing because you fail to accept it.  That just means you also refuse to accept reality.  It's that simple.

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                              Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                              The report is from a very biased source.  It isn't worth consideration.
                              
                              It's like the mafia providing a report as to why all of their businesses are legitimate.
                              
                              Puh...leeese!

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                                 Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                 Speaking of using a mafia reference, you choose to believe Trump's lies despite them originating from an even more biased source as he was the losing candidate.  Your own argument undermines your case or what you should be believing.  The hypocrisy is astounding.
                                 
                                 And if you claim the current Maricopa County Recorder, Stephen Richer, who is a Republican, is biased against your own party, then you pretty much prove my point of a break from reality.

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                                    Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                    "Stephen Richer, who is a Republican, is biased against your own party"
                                    
                                    Let's just say you don't know much about the Republican party.  Stephen Richer is no longer in good standing with the party.  He is not invited to Republican events and has no Republican support.  Would he be biased against his own party?  You bet!  He is considered a "token" Republican.  I could go on, but believe me, he does not have the support of most Republicans in Arizona.
                                    
                                    It's like nobody outside the Republican party believes me when I tell them that Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are hated and despised by Republicans.
                                    
                                    So, simply having a "R" in front of your name means absolutely nothing.

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                                       Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                       No longer in good standing?  Like Mike Pence who was applauded in the Florida Federalist Society when he called out Trump's lies about Pence's ability to single-handedly overturn the election to keep himself in power?
                                       
                                       Seems those with an actual education are happy to see someone stand up for the truth.
                                       
                                       And while the RNC Committee that pushed the censure vote against Cheney and Kinzinger were unanimous, it will be interesting to see what happens when all 168 members vote on it, especially when the media has so brutally called them out for including the insurrectionists as those engaging in legitimate political discourse.

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   IslandBitesposted 2 years ago

   LOL
   
   Sorry for your loss.

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   KC McGeeposted 2 years ago

   Well, if the Law had been followed as set by the U.S. Constitution then biden would not been "persident" anyway. Mayby it's finally dawned on the minds of the Wisconsin Assembly. But clearly they're about one year and 20 some odd days to late. The damage has already been done.

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      Fayetteville Fayeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      What law are you speaking of?

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         KC McGeeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         The U.S.  C O N S T I T U T I O N. Art 2, Section 1 , Clause 2. Try reading it. You may learn something

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            Fayetteville Fayeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            This doesn't apply at all.  Exactly which law stems from this??

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   KC McGeeposted 2 years ago

   Only State Legistratures have the authority to change voting law in each State as stated in the U.S. Constitution. However this authority was usurped by the Surprime court of Wisconsin. Whicjh they had NO AUTHORITY to do so.

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      Fayetteville Fayeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      How exactly would this nullify president Biden's win?

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   KC McGeeposted 2 years ago

   Because the authority in  State Legistratures who make the voting laws of their State also happened in 5 other States before November 2020 where their authority was usurped by individual(s) who did not have the authority to do so.  If you violate the laws regarding voting, it's calls cheating and it's a felony. This is why Texas tried to sued Michigan for violating the U.S. Contitution in the U.S. Surprime Court because of individuals who usurped the authority State Legistratures in Michigan. But the U.S. Surprime Court was to much of a coward to do their job. 6 States violating the election laws of their state did have an effect on the outcome of the election. This could nullify 6 States not just 1. If the 5 other states follow in the footsteps of the Wisconsin Assembly, this could be a big problem for biden. And I am looking forward to it.

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   Credence2posted 2 years ago

   "Biden beat Trump by nearly 21,000 votes, an outcome that has withstood recounts, lawsuits and multiple reviews."
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   So how can Electoral votes be "returned to Trump"?
   
   The right wingers can blame the minority voters of Milwaukee for this outcome and I, of course, am delighted
   
   What sort of tawdry online rag are you using to support your assertion?
   
   Cmon, Mike, you know that this nonsense is all bullshyte, and its bad for you.....
   
   You and your rightwing buddies will have to do better than this.
   
   https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states … isciplined

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      Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Cred,
      
      I said after the election and I'll say it again, this isn't going to go away.
       
      "tawdry online rag"
      
      You can simply look online and see the fact that the Wisconsin assembly voted to reclaim Wisconsin's electoral votes.  It is in many publications, especially local ones in Wisconsin.
      
      You can try and ignore it, insult it, degrade it, but this is only gaining energy.
      
      There really does need to be a federal investigation done.  When the Republicans take back the congress, that is a possibility.  It will have to be done to restore the faith in the election system.
      
      This isn't a belief held by some fringe group, it is held by tens of millions of people.  These are people who work, pay taxes and are not criminals.  This is not a voting block you want to ignore.

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         Fayetteville Fayeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         there was no vote on removing the state’s 10 electoral votes for President Joe Biden, as claimed. And no resolution to that end advanced anywhere.
         
         A lone Republican state representative introduced a resolution devoid of cosponsors that was referred to the Rules Committee – a procedural move required by Assembly rules – and then rejected by Assembly leaders, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
         
         " A resolution introduced in the Assembly Tuesday by a Republican representative to pull back Wisconsin’s ten electoral votes for Joe Biden is illegal and will die in committee, leading Republicans say.
         
         “Not only is it illegal, it’s just plain unconstitutional,” Assembly majority leader Jim Steineke tweeted of the resolution introduced by Rep. Timothy Ramthun."
         
         https://www.channel3000.com/fact-check- … joe-biden/
         
         https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac … 231893002/

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            Readmikenowposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            You might want to look at some local Wisconsin news.
            
            "The Wisconsin Assembly has voted to officially withdraw Joe Biden’s 10 electoral votes, citing voter fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election.
            
            Last night, the Wisconsin Assembly has unanimously voted to withdraw its 10 electoral votes that contributed to the certification of Joe Biden’s controversial victory following the hotly contested 2020 Presidential Election.
            
            The legislation now heads to the Wisconsin Assembly Rules Committee, and then on to the Wisconsin Senate for confirmation."
            
            "The resolution now moves forward to the Wisconsin Rules Committee and Wisconsin Senate for immediate confirmation as Bill 743."
            
            Now, go to the Wisconsin state website and look for the status of Bill 743.

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               Fayetteville Fayeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Here is a tweet from the Wisconsin House majority Leader.
               
               Jim Steineke (@jimsteineke) Tweeted:
               Disinformation spreads quickly. Here’s what happened in the assembly tonight:
               
               • Ramthun introduced a resolution with zero support (no cosponsors)
               • B/c it was a privileged resolution, it has to be referred to committee. It was referred to Rules
               • There was no vote on it, https://twitter.com/jimsteineke/status/ … 89572?s=20

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                  KC McGeeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  I wouldn't trust a Democrat if my life depended on it.

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         Credence2posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         "William Barr, The FBI and the department of Homeland security all agreed the election was probably the most secure in our history"
         
         These all were officials under the Trump administration. So, we are going to go with your unsubstantied supicions without any concrete evidence from any objective source?
         
         ITS already gone away, Mike.
         
         The so called energy amounts to mere gossamer when closely examined. Your idea of FAITH in the election system is only that as scenario where Republicans never lose, and that is unacceptable.
         
         Then 10s of millions of people are fascists at heart if they just want to win regardless of the standing rules in place.
         
         That has to be of great concern of anybody that believes in the democratic process.

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   abwilliamsposted 2 years ago

   I had not heard about this Mike, thanks for sharing. Finally, this has taken much longer than I anticipated after all of the craziness from election night....and on through to the wee hours.  I plan to go to the Wisconsin State website and check it out.

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      Valeantposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      ...and then be really disappointed.

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