Illegal in New York Being Registered to Vote in US Elections

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  1. Readmikenow profile image83
    Readmikenowposted 19 months ago

    Was this the democrats plan all along?


    "A House Republican representing part of New York City says she has "smoking gun" proof that city officials are trying to help get illegal immigrants registered to vote, something the city has staunchly denied.

    Rep. Nicole Malliotakis, R-N.Y., announced on Sunday that she had obtained a copy of a contract between New York City’s Department of Social Services and Homes for the Homeless, a nonprofit that has been contracted to build emergency migrant shelters as the border crisis depletes the city’s resources.

    In an appendix of that contract, a copy of which was obtained by Fox News Digital, the city appears to require contractors to provide copies of voter registration forms for migrants at their shelters, Malliotakis said.

    "This is the smoking gun that proves what we've been saying all along, that the city intends to register noncitizens to vote, and even those who are residing in these migrant shelters for just 30 days," Malliotakis said at a press conference in Staten Island. "It is extremely concerning. It should be concerning to every citizen."

    1. Willowarbor profile image61
      Willowarborposted 19 months agoin reply to this

      You simply cannot register to vote if you are not a citizen. 


      "Some politicians and pundits have raised alarm that noncitizens could be voting illegally in high numbers. Studies show this isn’t happening, according to Ron Hayduk, a political science professor at San Francisco State University who studies noncitizen voting laws.

      While there have been anecdotal reports of noncitizens registering and casting ballots, “the incidence of such occurrences is infinitesimal,” Hayduk said.

      Research by the Brennan Center for Justice in 2017 looked at 42 jurisdictions in the 2016 election, and reported that of 23.5 million votes cast, election officials only found about 30 cases of potential noncitizen voting that they referred for prosecution or further investigation."

      I don't think there's much support for this being a real issue.

      https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm … dc717906e5

      1. Readmikenow profile image83
        Readmikenowposted 19 months agoin reply to this

        The article is not based on research that happened six years ago.

        It is based on documents obtained this year 2023 in New York City.

        Things change in six years.

        1. Willowarbor profile image61
          Willowarborposted 19 months agoin reply to this

          I'd spend time looking for new research but I have the strong suspicion it wouldn't matter..

          1. Readmikenow profile image83
            Readmikenowposted 19 months agoin reply to this

            If you have research that proves the Rep. Nicole Malliotakis is wrong about voter registration forms at migrant shelters, I would love to see it.
            I would be impressed.

            1. Willowarbor profile image61
              Willowarborposted 19 months agoin reply to this

              She provided absolutely no proof that migrants were registered. 

              “These allegations are false and baseless. DHS is legally required to include language around voter registration in shelter contracts and this guidance applies only to eligible clients who are citizens, and would clearly not apply to asylum seekers in shelter,” the spokesperson said.

              1. Readmikenow profile image83
                Readmikenowposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                Why are they being provided to illegal immigrants?  What you said was "language around voter registration,"

                Rep. Nicole Malliotakis has proof contractors are providing copies of voter registration forms to illegal immigrants.

                Actual forms, not just language.

              2. wilderness profile image75
                wildernessposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                Isn't that the point?  That illegals may be registered, and that no one is actually checking come voting time?

                More than a dozen municipalities allow illegal aliens to participate in how the area is run (vote) - it is a very small jump to allow them to vote in state or national elections.  Just don't check every ballot to make sure it is legal.  After all, the left mantra is that even requiring ID is racist somehow, so it should not be hard to just not check.

                1. Ken Burgess profile image73
                  Ken Burgessposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                  It doesn't really matter, NY, CA, OR, there are States that are so corrupt, an automatic for the Democrats regardless of who does or does not vote.

                  If this were going on in State that is a toss up, like Ohio, it could make a difference... probably is happening in some toss up States, not that they need it so long as the have 2020's Mail In Ballot laws still on the books.

                  We have to survive another 12 Months of the Biden Administration...
                  with this clueless cabal at the helm, we might not make it there, the whole world seems to be taking advantage of the fact that we have the Cast of the Rocky Horror Picture Show running the country.

                  1. wilderness profile image75
                    wildernessposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                    You do have a point that it is only the far left states pulling the crap, and it won't matter there.  Still, there are cities that could change a state from red to blue with a few million illegal votes.

                    Yeah, another 12 months (he'll survive any potential impeachment, just as Trump did) - we can only hope we can withstand the damage he does.

  2. Sharlee01 profile image84
    Sharlee01posted 19 months ago

    Oct 24,, 2023   https://nypost.com/2023/10/24/opinion/d … -can-vote/

    "If you think offering migrants luxury hotel rooms, free meals, laundry service, transportation, health care and immigration lawyers is excessive, just wait until they can vote.

    Democrats are pushing to give noncitizens the franchise in local elections in New York City, Boston and other municipalities, as well as statewide in Connecticut.

    The number of migrants pouring across the southern border has hit a record high, according to data released Saturday.

    Illegal crossings soared 21% over the previous month.

    On a yearly basis, the figure reached 2.48 million.

    Democrats may feign shock and distress.

    Don’t be fooled.

    Dems see these newcomers as their guarantee of a permanent voting majority in local elections.

    Not years from now, after the newcomers become citizens.

    Right now.

    Mayor Eric Adams’ rhetoric is typical.

    He warns that the overwhelming number of migrants arriving — 16,000 to 17,000 a month — will “destroy the city,” but he’s also leading the legal effort to turn migrants into voters.

    Adams and other New York Democrats pushed President Joe Biden to expedite work authorizations for them.

    They said it’s about making migrants self-sufficient. Maybe, but Dems have another powerful motive.

    The fine print of New York City’s “Our City, Our Vote” law, enacted in December 2021, says anyone with a work authorization who has been in the city for a mere 30 days can vote, even if that person entered the country illegally.

    Biden’s recent action fast-tracking work authorizations for Venezuelan border crossers, who make up about 41% of the Big Apple’s recent arrivals, will make tens of thousands of them eligible to vote under city law, as soon as they obtain their working papers.

    That is, if New York City’s voting law is allowed to go into effect.

    A big “if.” The law is tied up in court.

    A group of Republicans led by Staten Island Borough President Vito Fossella sued, arguing the state Constitution grants the right to vote to “every citizen.”

    A Staten Island judge bought that argument and struck down the law, but Adams’ Law Department is appealing that ruling in a higher court, arguing the state Constitution does not specifically prohibit noncitizens from voting.

    Adams has a shot at winning.

    Vermont’s top court ruled in favor of allowing noncitizens to vote in municipal elections, even though the Vermont Constitution restricts voting in state elections to US citizens.

    California and Maryland also already permit municipalities to enfranchise noncitizens.

    The Boston City Council is debating allowing newcomers to vote, including migrants who recently came across the border illegally and have temporary protected status.

    In Washington, DC, Democrats rammed through a local law in November 2022 allowing noncitizens, even foreign-embassy employees, to vote, as long as they’ve resided in the city for 30 days.

    In Connecticut, Democrats want to amend the state’s Constitution to allow noncitizens to vote in state and local elections.

    Amending the state’s charter is a multiyear complicated process, and it’s facing stiff opposition from the Republican minority in the Legislature.

    House Minority Leader Vincent Candelora calls noncitizen voting “outrageous.”

    For New York City, “suicidal” is more accurate.

    Adding some 800,000 noncitizens to the 5 million registered voters in the city will have an impact, even if newcomers don’t always vote as a bloc.

    Nora Moran of United Neighborhood Houses, a New York nonprofit, predicts noncitizen voting will make political leaders “more responsive” to the needs of newcomers and their neighborhoods.

    To the extent “more responsive” means spending more, that will be a disaster.

    City spending on migrants already exceeds the budgets of the Fire, Sanitation and Parks departments combined.

    “We are past our breaking point,” Adams cautioned two months ago, adding that New Yorkers will be facing cuts in every type of city service to foot the bill.

    Letting noncitizens vote will dilute the political power of all other New Yorkers, who are the real victims of Biden’s open borders.

    Tell Adams to withdraw his legal appeal and stop pushing for noncitizen voting."


    Oct 25, 2023  --  Undocumented immigrants are allowed to vote in local elections in some municipalities  https://www.verifythis.com/article/news … 90093a5968

    " Undocumented immigrants and other noncitizens can’t vote for federal or state offices, but they can vote for local offices in more than a dozen municipalities."

    There won’t be a nationwide federal election in 2023, but voters will still be able to cast ballots for local and state elections on this year’s upcoming Nov. 7 election day.

    After we VERIFIED that federal law prohibits undocumented immigrants from voting in federal elections, some VERIFY readers asked if they are allowed to vote in local elections.

    One viewer texted: “Can [undocumented immigrants] vote in local, non-federal elections?”

    THE QUESTION
    Are undocumented immigrants allowed to vote in some local elections?

    This is true.
    Yes, more than a dozen municipalities allow undocumented immigrants to vote in some or all local elections.

    WHAT WE FOUND
    Federal law does not prohibit noncitizens, including those who are undocumented and not authorized to legally live or work in the U.S., from voting in local or state elections.

    While no states grant undocumented immigrants the right to vote in state elections, more than a dozen municipalities nationwide allow undocumented immigrants to vote in local elections.

    U.S. code makes it illegal for any non-citizen to vote for federal office, including for president, vice president, the Senate and the House of Representatives. However, federal law specifies that non-citizens are allowed to vote for other offices if they’re allowed to “under a State constitution or statute or a local ordinance.”

    No state grants noncitizens the right to vote in statewide elections, such as those for governor, according to USA.gov. But many state constitutions don’t explicitly prohibit local governments from allowing noncitizens, including undocumented immigrants, to vote in local elections.

    “Municipalities can expand voting rights in local elections if there are no explicit state constitutional or legislative impediments and so long as local jurisdictions have the power of home rule,” wrote Joshua Douglas, an election and voting rights expert who teaches at the University of Kentucky Rosenberg College of Law, in a 2017 paper.

    Ballotpedia, a digital encyclopedia of American politics and elections, lists 17 municipalities that currently have laws allowing at least some noncitizens to vote in local elections. Noncitizens include people with legal authorization to live or work in the U.S., as well as people who are undocumented.

    VERIFY confirmed that the language of 13 of these municipalities’ laws includes undocumented immigrants among the noncitizens allowed to vote. The other four allow some noncitizens to vote, but not undocumented immigrants.

    These municipalities include San Francisco and Oakland in California, Washington, D.C., and 10 communities in Maryland. All 10 of the Maryland communities are within the two counties that directly border Washington, D.C.

    Some of these municipalities, such as San Francisco and Oakland, only allow their undocumented residents and other noncitizens to vote in local school board elections, and only if they are parents of children attending the local school district. Others, such as Washington, D.C., allow noncitizens to vote for offices such as mayor and council member, as well as on referendums.

    Oakland’s law directly franchises undocumented immigrants by defining noncitizens as “documented immigrants, lawful permanent residents, residents on work visas, and undocumented immigrants.”

    Many of the other laws don’t directly name undocumented immigrants, but extend the right to vote broadly enough to include them. For example, Chevy Chase Section 3, Maryland, defines “qualified voter” as “any person who is a resident of Chevy Chase Section 3,  without regard to citizenship, and is at least eighteen (18) years of age.”

    While the city doesn’t allow them to vote in elections for citywide offices, Chicago allows undocumented immigrants to vote in what it calls local school councils, which serve as the governing bodies for individual schools. Students can also vote in these elections, of which there are 477 in the city.

    A few other cities nationwide allow noncitizen, legal residents to vote, but not undocumented immigrants. For example, Montpelier, Vermont, specifies a person must be a legal resident of the U.S. to register to vote.

    New York City was, for a time, among the cities that allowed “lawful permanent residents” to vote, but did not extend that right to undocumented immigrants. However, the law has since been blocked by a state court.

    Many noncitizen voting laws, whether inclusive of undocumented immigrants or strict to legal residents, face legal challenges upon their passage. The California Court of Appeal sided with San Francisco against a legal challenge to stop its noncitizen voting law in August 2023, and Washington, D.C.’s law is currently facing a challenge in court.

    This story is also available in Spanish / Lee este artículo también en español: Inmigrantes indocumentados pueden votar en elecciones locales en algunas municipalidades"

 
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