Biden Proposed Tax Hikes for 2025

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  1. Ken Burgess profile image73
    Ken Burgessposted 2 months ago

    Details and Analysis of President Biden’s Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Proposal
    https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/ … proposals/

    The Biden Tax Hike Will Likely Exceed $7 Trillion
    https://gop-waysandmeans.house.gov/the- … -trillion/

    Biden Tax Resource Center
    https://taxfoundation.org/research/fede … proposals/

    Huge Capital Gains Tax Increase... nearly 50%.

    Death Tax still a way around it, so it will effect the poorest of us that don't know how to use the work-around.  Kids won't inherit, government will.

    Selling your home, if you reinvested those proceeds into another home, you would not have to pay taxes... now you will pay taxes regardless.

    Thoughts?

    1. Sharlee01 profile image88
      Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I'll put it plainly: when you tax something unfairly, you end up with less of it. So, brace yourself for reduced output and increased costs. This approach could lead our country into financial ruin. The bottom of the heap gets hurt the worst.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image73
        Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        Our government... especially this Biden Administration... wastes trillions.

        We have a spending problem... with no accountability.

        We give away hundreds of billions to foreign nations and foreign migrants without accountability. Just throwing money away, the Pentagon, Ukraine, you name it, cannot account for where the money goes.

        We don't need to tax more... we need a smaller government that spends less.

  2. Ken Burgess profile image73
    Ken Burgessposted 2 months ago

    My thoughts are not that they have to tax more... they have to spend LESS.

    It is NOT America's job to take in all the world's migrant workers so that Corporations can pay LESS to non-Americans.

    It is NOT America's job to 'defend Democracy' and pay hundreds of billions to fight wars on Russia's border.

    It is NOT America's job to give Iran hundreds of billions so they can fund the Hamas, Houthis, and Hezbollah.

    We need to clean the corrupt cabal in control of DC... today... while there are still enough people that are not brainwashed into being slaves to the State. 

    Sadly, those who call themselves Democrat-Socialists have swallowed the ideology and believe Party right or wrong.

    It is up to the rest of America to wake up and realize the people being stripped of wealth and power are not the rich, not the elites, but those working to try and make a better life for themselves.  Average Americans that still believe in honest effort, liberty and property ownership.

  3. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    Good. Corporate tax breaks are why we can't balance the budget. Raising their taxes is only common sense. A country can't give away its revenue stream just to make the rich happy and continuing to support one party over another.

    "Spend less." On what? And who will it hurt? The rich or the poor?

    1. GA Anderson profile image88
      GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      "Spend less." On what?"

      Oh hell, I bet you get a list . . .

      $400 billion for student loan forgiveness would be a good step.

      . . . and the list would go on forever with everyone's favorite government spending 'spree' peeve. Ending up with just another Red/Blue argument.

      The majority of economic opinions I've heard on the news, or found with Google, proclaim, on one side, and admit on the other, that the government does have a spending problem.

      You might think it's about the rich not paying a fair share, but economists say spending is a big part of the problem.

      The illustration of the loan forgiveness costs in a time of already large deficits and even larger debt seems to make the point.

      GA

      1. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
        Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        Our country benefits from an educated population. In terms conservatives might understand: it is investing in our future. When you price people out of the market to further their education or charge outrageous interest rates on education loans - you damage the future of our country.

        What is the definition of insanity? If giving tax breaks to huge corporations is so beneficial to our economy, why aren't we all better off financially?

        1. GA Anderson profile image88
          GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          Investing in our future is a good thing, but you don't invest the rent money.

          That's the general concept. A current illustration is an approximation that the current tax revenue is $5 Trillion. SS and Medicare commitments are about $5 Trillion (yearly). Pres. Biden's budget is $7+ Trillion.

          A 40% tax increase is needed just to break even. The loan forgiveness number ($400+ billion(?)) could reduce that increase by almost 10%. I bet it wouldn't be hard to find another $400+ Billion that could be spared for better times and the needed tax increase is only 25%. Should be an easier sell.

          I'm not advocating any of those numbers or actions, or defending the tax cuts, I'm just noting that spending the rent money on the future is a bad idea. Then, sending the food money along with it (the $400+ billion) isn't a smart thing to do when you don't have enough money for things you are already committed to doing.

          *Just a note on a previous question. It appears that total Federal tax revenues did increase each year after the tax cuts. I'm sure there's an argument there, but that's what Google's numbers say.

          GA

    2. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      "Raising their taxes is only common sense."

      When you want something, but either don't want to or can't pay for it, it is only common sense to take what you need from a third party, right?  Although you will couch it in terms of "fairness" (with your own definition of "fair" that excuses your theft), that IS what you are saying...

  4. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    Simple economics: You can't give away a country's revenue stream, which is what you do when you gift the rich with tax cuts. It is simple math.

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Demonizing the rich for earning what you don't doesn't help anything or anyone.  Take enough from them, even if you call it "fair" to take more from one than from another, and they will leave for greener pastures.

      It is actually rather astounding to watch as every time we want something but don't want to pay for it what we consider "fair" for the rich to pay suddenly rises.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image73
        Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        We have a government that has found a way to waste TRILLIONS more every year than the TRILLIONS they take in.

        This is the source of our problem... Lobbyists, Congress that is corrupt and working on behalf of everything OTHER than America's best interests.

        Doing the bidding of the UN... IE Global Compact on Migration... is NOT in the best interests of Americans.  That there are migrants getting more money from our government and more preferential treatment than combat vets suffering or SSI disabled should be outrageous to ALL Americans.

        The government has been terrible the past 30 years... from NAFTA to repealing the Glass Steagall Act, starting way back then, its been working against American interests.

        The fact that so many Americans are waking up to this fact is one of the reasons why things are getting so crazy.

        You can't have freedom when you don't have the truth... and there is nothing but lies coming from our government and our MSM today.

        Constant, never ending, lies and deception... corruption and criminal activity... and those that whistle blow or try to stop it end up dead or in jail, while those who are the most culpable for it become President (Biden)... while using the Justice system to destroy all opposition.

      2. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
        Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        Wilderness:

        1. I'm not demonizing anyone.
        2. Getting advantages others don't get is not "fair" unless those advantages result in benefits for someone other than yourself.
        3. Let them find greener pastures if they can. I doubt that they will.

    2. GA Anderson profile image88
      GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Now, you opened this door . . .

      More simple economics: You can't spend more than you have, which is what you do when you spend more than your revenue stream.

      As a non-economics guy, some context might help. Was the revenue stream of the first year of the tax cuts smaller than the last year without them? Would the first year's stream cover the previous year's budget — as in a budget with no spending increases?

      I haven't looked for those answers but my thoughts are No and a qualified Yes, the qualification being if not, then at least with a smaller deficit than the previous year.

      GA

    3. Ken Burgess profile image73
      Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      If our government (corrupt politicians) is going to waste money on things the vast majority of Americans want nothing to do with... such as:

      Literally HALF of the 35 Trillion dollar deficit has been created funding continuous wars that do nothing but leave destroyed nations in their wake.

      Afghanistan, Iraq, to a lesser degree Libya and Syria, and now Ukraine... I don't think very many Americans have gotten a benefit out of these wars... Raytheon and Halliburton and there like perhaps... not Americans.

      So NO... I don't want them raising taxes... anywhere... on anyone... stop SPENDING money that they don't have... stop trying to run the world and starting wars... stop throwing away money and not accounting for it.

      1. gmwilliams profile image82
        gmwilliamsposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        +1000000000000000000

      2. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
        Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        "Literally HALF of the 35 Trillion dollar deficit has been created funding continuous wars that do nothing but leave destroyed nations in their wake."

        Could not agree more. And who led us into 20 years of war that accomplished nothing? A Republican president who didn't even win the popular vote.

        1. Ken Burgess profile image73
          Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          And now you support an Administration that is working hard to make those decisions (Iraq War) look good in comparison.

          One of the biggest reasons why they have had a smear campaign going against Trump for more than 8 years... he wouldn't open up new conflicts, he wouldn't send money to Iran who funds Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis... without Biden's support Iran would be destitute and unable to fund their own government, let alone terrorists.

          America is being guided by an amoral Administration... it wantonly transgresses the values of the United States in order to 'defend them'.

          Then there is the 'Green Energy' efforts being forced upon Americans while at the same time the Administration is funding two (three) regional wars and putting us ever closer to WWIII.

          Americans are currently struggling to afford some of the highest energy prices in decades.  More than one-third of U.S. households said they reduced or skipped basic expenses, such as medicine or food, to pay an energy bill in 2022.

          President Biden’s agenda is hurting low and middle-income Americans the most.  And this Administration doesn't give a crap, as they continue to fund millions of migrants flowing into the country while spending hundreds of billions to destroy foreign nations and fill hundreds of thousands... if not millions of body bags.

          America is the number one producer and exporter of liquefied natural gas in the world.  Rather than celebrating this, Biden is ‘heeding the calls’ as he puts it, of activists who are intent on shutting down American energy.

          Biden’s recent decision to impose a moratorium on new permits for clean U.S. natural gas exports is the latest example of his administration putting politics over economic reality and the interests of the American people.

          Look... you can't point to Bush or Bush Jr, or 9/11 or Obama for the decline that has lead us to where we are now.

          None of them were as insane, incompetent, and brutally bad for America as this Administration has been with a mere 3.5 years in the books... some of those Administration had 8 years to harm America and they less damage across the board... in every category... than this one.

  5. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    Thanks for the numbers. There is always a reason to do this and not that. That's why we need priorities, and our priorities have been screwed up for a long time.

  6. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    From the Congressional Research Service:

    "The October 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel appears to have changed U.S. policy with respect to
    the funds. According to press reports, Deputy Treasury Secretary Wally Adeyemo told legislators
    in October 2023 that in the wake of Hamas’s assault on Israel, U.S. and Qatari officials had
    agreed to prevent the use of the funds to finance the purchase of humanitarian goods for export to
    Iran for an unspecified period of time.100 In November 2023, the House passed legislation (H.R.
    5961) that would, among other provisions, direct the President to impose sanctions on any foreign
    financial institution that engages in transactions with the $6 billion in Iranian funds. In testimony
    the following month, a State Department official said of the funds, “Not a penny of this money
    has been spent and these funds will not go anywhere anytime soon.”

    https://crsreports.congress.gov/product … interests.

  7. Sharlee01 profile image88
    Sharlee01posted 2 months ago

    Check out the Tax Foundation's detailed analysis of Biden's proposed Tax plan, complete with thorough research, multiple charts, and comprehensive information. I've included the conclusion for those interested in understanding how they arrived at their findings.

    "Conclusion  https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/ … proposals/
    The president’s tax policy proposals as outlined in the State of the Union address would make the tax code more complicated, unstable, and anti-growth, while also expanding the amount of spending in the tax code for a variety of policy goals not related to revenue collection.

    We estimate the proposed budget would reduce deficits by $1.4 trillion on a dynamic basis through 2034 compared to the White House estimate of $3.2 trillion. However, neither estimate includes the cost of the intended extension of the TCJA tax cuts for people earning less than $400,000 or for the proposed expanded CTC post-2025, which would wipe out most of the touted deficit reduction.

    The budget also assumes an unrealistically high rate of growth in the economy, especially considering the large tax increases proposed on businesses and high earners that will slow growth. The budget assumes real GDP will grow at 2.2 percent annually in the last five years of the budget window, while the CBO assumes real GDP will grow about 1.9 percent annually over this period. By raising marginal tax rates on investment, saving, and work, we find Biden’s FY 2025 budget would reduce long-run economic output by 2.2 percent, wages by 1.6 percent, and employment by 788,000 full-time equivalent jobs.

    In sum, President Biden is proposing extraordinarily large tax hikes on businesses and the top 1 percent of earners that would put the U.S. in a distinctly uncompetitive international position and threaten the health of the U.S. economy. The budget ignores or makes unrealistic assumptions about the fiscal cost of major proposals as well as economic growth under higher marginal tax rates on work and investment, concealing what is likely to be a substantial cost borne by American workers and taxpayers."

    1. Ken Burgess profile image73
      Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Good post.

      "concealing what is likely to be a substantial cost borne by American workers and taxpayers."

      That will prove spot on.  As is always the case, middle America gets screwed.

      1. Sharlee01 profile image88
        Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

        We're also seeing the emergence of what "Trump" has termed the "Inflation Tax." I believe many Americans could easily tally up a monthly stat reflecting just how much more they're spending to sustain themselves or simply get by.

      2. Sharlee01 profile image88
        Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

        Ken,   After examining Biden's plan, it appears it could pose challenges for middle-class and high-income businesses. It raises concerns about whether, in tough times, large corporations might relocate, impacting local economies. Additionally, when faced with pressure, big businesses often resort to layoffs and passing on costs to consumers.

  8. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    Why don't we just resurrect Reagan's "Are you better off today than you were four years ago?" Same song. Second verse.

    We live in a different set of circumstances in 2024 than we did in 2019. An "inflation tax" is simply a campaign strategy to entice independent voters. Typical GOP thinking: Just appeal to their sense of greed and nothing else matters.

  9. Sharlee01 profile image88
    Sharlee01posted 2 months ago

    In my opinion ---

    While it's true that the comparison to Reagan's famous question carries weight, it's essential to recognize the complexities of the current economic landscape compared to that of the past. The assertion that Americans are paying more for almost everything can't be dismissed outright, as there are indeed instances of rising costs across various sectors.  Moreover, labeling it as a campaign strategy to entice independent voters oversimplifies the issue and disregards legitimate concerns about cost-of-living pressures facing many Americans. Certainly, Trump's term "inflation tax is political rhetoric. Which is targeted toward voters, yet simplifying intricate economic realities into mere partisan tactics overlooks the genuine struggles experienced by everyday Americans grappling with the effects of inflation.

  10. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    Ken: It is true that everyone is dealing with the effects of inflation. Stating it is the fault of one single factor or person is not. Economics is complex and the results of any single action being blamed is too simplistic for a worldwide problem.

    1. Ken Burgess profile image73
      Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      The world's biggest problem now, and for the last 3 years, has been the Biden Administration.

      Nearly every effort or decision they make is detrimental to the wellbeing, economic and social, of America and Americans on the whole.

      1. Sharlee01 profile image88
        Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

        "The world's biggest problem now, and for the last 3 years, has been the Biden Administration.

        Nearly every effort or decision they make is detrimental to the wellbeing, economic and social, of America and Americans on the whole."

        I agree, and I must repeat as I do often, and never disappointed --- What next? I can't imagine

        1. Ken Burgess profile image73
          Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          Understanding what the Biden Administration has done to America:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Aq2xd6ccgE
          In under 10 minutes

          Covering the domestic disaster, when I come across one that can entwine the severity and myriad of foreign faux pas done, I will present it.

          I like his final statement... " this next election is about civilization itself, you are either for civilization or you're not."

          Its strange, how so many brilliant minds are coming forward and raising the alarm... Elon Musk is a long ways away from his Mission to Mars and revolutionizing power and transportation... yet there he is wasting 50 billion dollars to maintain one platform of free speech for the world... for a little while longer, anyways.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image88
            Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Hanson's analysis effectively underscores the significance of historical context and lessons in comprehending the multitude of daunting challenges confronting America. Though occasionally contentious to leftist perspectives, his views stimulate debate, contributing to a broader discourse on the nation's current state and prospective trajectory. His intellect is commendable, earning my utmost respect. Personally, I found the video captivating, and I encourage anyone stumbling upon your comment to give it a watch.

            Observing the coming together of bright minds tackling various global challenges is truly captivating. Elon Musk's bold endeavors in space exploration, renewable energy, and transportation are a testament to his innovative drive and ambition. His outspoken dedication to upholding free speech is a courageous stance, showcasing his willingness to push boundaries.  So glad he decided to be an American.

  11. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    The Hill: "Economists say the lower swing state inflation could be related to housing prices, which are directly propelled by interest rate increases and are now the primary driver of overall inflation."

  12. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    "Historically, the rich had to pay hefty taxes on corporate profits, the main source of their income. And the wealth they passed on to their heirs was subject to the estate tax. But both taxes have been gutted in recent decades. In 2018, the United States cut its maximum corporate tax rate to 21 percent from 35 percent. And the estate tax has almost disappeared in America. "

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 … 6mSLbdrxbU

    1. Ken Burgess profile image73
      Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Do you know WHO will REALLY pay that 44.6% Capital Gains tax?

      Do really believe it is going to be the rich?

      The Rich who know how to hide their money in offshore accounts, businesses and trusts, how to right off losses and expenses... the rules are all in their favor and always will be.

      That 44.6% is going to be paid for by all those who work or worked for a living, who put their money into assets like stocks so they could retire, or have money set aside for an emergency.... THESE are the people who will pay that tax.

      Biden has done nothing in 3.5 years to attack the Rich... he has only attacked and harmed the working stiffs of America... inflation doesn't hurt the rich, it only makes those who aren't less so.

  13. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    americanprogress.com

    "Long-term projections show2 that federal debt as a percentage of the U.S. economy is on a path to grow indefinitely, with increased noninterest spending due to demographic changes such as increasing life expectancy, declining fertility, and decreased immigration and rising health care costs permanently outstripping revenues under projections based on current law. House Republican leaders have used this fact to call for spending cuts,3 but it does not address the true cause of rising debt: Tax cuts initially enacted during Republican trifectas in the past 25 years slashed taxes disproportionately for the wealthy and profitable corporations, severely reducing federal revenues. In fact, relative to earlier projections, spending is down, not up. But revenues are down significantly more. If not for the Bush tax cuts4 and their extensions5—as well as the Trump tax cuts6—revenues would be on track to keep pace with spending indefinitely, and the debt ratio (debt as a percentage of the economy) would be declining. Instead, these tax cuts have added $10 trillion to the debt since their enactment and are responsible for 57 percent of the increase in the debt ratio since 2001, and more than 90 percent of the increase in the debt ratio if the one-time costs of bills responding to COVID-19 and the Great Recession are excluded. Eventually, the tax cuts are projected to grow to more than 100 percent of the increase."

    https://www.americanprogress.org/articl … ebt-ratio/

  14. Sharlee01 profile image88
    Sharlee01posted 2 months ago

    Just my view -   While the comment attempts to attribute the growing federal debt primarily to tax cuts, a comprehensive analysis of the issue reveals a more nuanced picture. It's true that long-term projections indicate a concerning trajectory for federal debt relative to the U.S. economy, with increased noninterest spending projected to outstrip revenues. However, solely attributing this trend to tax cuts overlooks several key factors.

    Firstly, demographic changes such as increasing life expectancy, declining fertility rates, and decreased immigration contribute significantly to rising healthcare and social security expenditures. Additionally, rising healthcare costs, driven by factors such as technological advancements and an aging population, play a substantial role in increasing government spending. Moreover, while tax cuts may have contributed to reduced federal revenues, it's important to recognize that they are not the sole driver of the growing debt. Structural issues within the budget, including entitlement spending and defense expenditures, also exert pressure on the nation's finances.

    Plus, economic downturns, such as the Great Recession and the COVID pandemic, necessitated substantial government spending to mitigate their impacts, further exacerbating the debt. Therefore, while tax policy certainly influences revenue levels, addressing the federal debt requires a comprehensive approach that considers demographic trends, healthcare costs, and other structural factors in addition to revenue policies.

  15. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    " If not for the Bush tax cuts and their extensions—as well as the Trump tax cuts—revenues would be on track to keep pace with spending indefinitely, and the debt ratio (debt as a percentage of the economy) would be declining."

    -American Progress

    1. Willowarbor profile image59
      Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Far too many Americans don't acknowledge the residual role that past legislation brings to any new administration. And in my view, many see the transition from one administration to the next as akin to turning a light switch on and off.

      The fondness that Trump supporters view his first few years in office were brought to them by Obama.  Aside from Trump's  tax cut, which many economists say is also a contributing factor to our current inflation, he passed very little substantive legislation.  Remember "infrastructure week"? After week after...

      The real test of the actual impact of his administration would have come around the time covid hit. 

      But most of what Trump boasted about was handed to him from Obama.

      https://apnews.com/article/3e265c4138d0 … 1818789734

 
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