Are we going to call her President Kamala?

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months ago

   When are we going to stop calling female politicians by their first name? We don't call the President Joe. We don't call Trump anything but Trump. Vance, Walz, Obama, Clinton, Bush. I think it is subtle sexism as a way to diminish the woman's achievements.
   
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      Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      President Harris.
      We should definitely call her President Hillary. I mean Harris.

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      wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Would you prefer "Mr. President"?
      
      We have used different forms of addressing males and females for millenia, and very few of them (none in common use) has been "sexist".  Just recognition that women are not men.  If you look for offense you will find it.
      
      Still, I would prefer Ms. President or President Harris.

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         Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         So would I.
         
         "If you look for offense you will find it."
         
         Sometimes it finds you.

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            wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Gross offense will find you.  I was referring to your statement that "President Kamala" might be demeaning - look for offense and you will always find it, whether intended or not.  IMO it is one of the bigger social problems we face today: everyone is suffering through tremendous pain from being offended every few hours.

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               MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

               Yes, but I don't like the way the Brits refer to certain female royalty in a manner that looks disrespectful to me, like Fergie or they say "Kate Middleton" when she is actually Catherine, Princess of Wales.

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                  wildernessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  I don't profess to know, or understand, the Brits royalty custom.  Whether it's how they treat royalty, how they refer to those people or how they come up with them, it's all "greek" to me.

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         MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

         That's a nice way of stating it.

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      MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I agree with you.  We don't say President George or President Joe. But I have to say that here in Arkansas, we still called him "Bill" unless we were in a formal situation. He was on a first name basis with everyone he met. He is a very unusual man. Now Hillary, well I guess they would have said "President Hillary!".

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      Lone Wolf Primeposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Maybe it would be best to just ask Kamala Harris directly how she wants to be addressed if she becomes president.

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   Venkatachari Mposted 11 months ago

   I think we should refer to her full name including the title "President Kamala Harris". A simple first name is not respectable.
   Or, Can't we address her as Mrs. President just like "Mr. Prime Minister"?

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      Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I agree that first names are disrespectful of elected officials.

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   Credence2posted 11 months ago

   How about Madame President? "Mrs" speaks more of marital status with women and its feels inappropriate.

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      MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      I agree. Madame President is more formal so she should always be addressed as Madame President in a formal situation, after she wins, of course. She can state her own preferences for informal situations and hope people respect that.

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months ago

   She was Senator Harris, Vice President Harris. Can't imagine her being referred to as anything other than President Harris.

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   Venkatachari Mposted 11 months ago

   I have got some doubts. I am addressing most of you by your First Names, I think. I treat you all as my friends and don't feel any discomfort. So, I hope it's okay.

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      Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      We're not elected officials! You are fine.

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      MizBejabbersposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      Please continue to do so. We are all friends here, at least I hope so.

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   Venkatachari Mposted 11 months ago

   Thank you, Kathlene and Doris Mizb.

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months ago

   "She's leaning into it."
   
   https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/1 … g-00173064
   
   I guess I'm just a product of my generation. Surely if she wins she will be President Harris. The office deserves respect.

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