The DARK SIDE of the Democratic Party-Do THEY CARE About America?

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   gmwilliamsposted 5 weeks ago

   
   It is not as much as an ideological war but a socioeconomic/educational war as well.  The Democratic Party now represents the upper middle to upper class, highly educated populace.   The Democratic Party has a covert disdain for the solidly middle class although the party claim that they are pro-middle class.   They have abandoned the blue collar faction of the middle class, believing them to either being irrelevant, even personae non gratae.   They also view the illegals as future, controllable laborers for the economy.  The reason why they want illegals isn't all humanitarian but is based upon economics.  What are your thoughts on this?

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      Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      I completely agree with your assessment that the current political landscape reflects a socioeconomic and educational divide rather than a purely ideological conflict. The Democratic Party has increasingly aligned itself with the upper middle and upper classes, often neglecting the concerns of blue-collar workers who feel abandoned. For instance, while the party promotes policies that ostensibly support the middle class, many working-class individuals find themselves overlooked, especially in manufacturing and trade sectors. Additionally, the focus on immigration appears driven by economic needs, with an emphasis on utilizing immigrant labor rather than genuinely addressing humanitarian issues. This perception of using illegal immigrants as a controllable workforce can alienate those who are already struggling economically, highlighting the disparity between the party’s rhetoric and the reality faced by many Americans.
      
      They care about one thing power, power gives them wealth and control over "We The People".  They are making every attempt to destroy democracy.

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         gmwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

         Exactly, the Democratic Party DESPISES the blue collar middle class, feeling that they are beneath them.  They LOVE the highly educated upper middle & upper class.  Even the highly educated, solidly middle class(the middle rung of the middle class) is feeling the effects of inflation.  The Democrats feel that the lower middle class are untermenschen or as Hillary stated deplorables.
         
         The Democrats despise the less educated.  Blue collar Democrats are flocking to the Republican Party & have done so since the 1980s. The educated, middle class are looking suspiciously at the Democrats, believing that the Democratic Party is abandoning them also.  Only the upper middle & upper classes are staunch Democratic supporters because they aren't affected by the Democrats' heinous policies.

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      Ken Burgessposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      'white men' are the 'worst thing in America'
      "Maybe them being the worse thing in America for decades has its consequences."
      https://thepostmillennial.com/jemele-hi … in-america
      
      Gotta love it...
      
      Of course... one could look at it another way... such as... what percentage of men, based on race, have common sense and a clue about what is going on in the world.
      
      Those that are not voting for Harris would fall into such a category... IMO... and hence explain that chart.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

         https://variety.com/2024/film/news/juli … 236193559/
         ( scroll down to see the ad.)

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            tsmogposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

            There were four. Which one?

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

               The one under this caption:
               'Watch the Roberts-narrated ad in the video below.'

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      abwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      The Democratic Party has lost sight of any humanitarian side they may have once had.. Every single move they make is calculated, not toward the good of this Country, but for the good of keeping them in office....in power.... in control!
      If they have to replace a segment of the population  with another, which can be more easily controlled and manipulated, so be it. But, they can't be obvious about  it, they need chaos and us pitted against one another, and they need a boogeyman to blame for it all.

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         gmwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

         Of course, the Democratic Party inversed itself.  It has become totally totalitarian in scope.  All they want is power under the pretext of improving the lives of the average American.   To the modern Democrats, the average American is just something they wipe off their shoes.  They feel that the average American is a mindless moron who is incapable of logic.  They feel that they are FAR SUPERIOR to the average American.  All they want is power & the celebrity opportunities it affords. To put it bluntly(my parents raised me better than this), the Democratic Party wants to pimp out the American people for its own ends.

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         Ken Burgessposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

         The Donor class putting all the money behind the DNC is all that matters...
         
         Their goals (see WEF) their agendas... the DNC primarily is their vehicle of this change...
         
         All the Progressive, DEI, CRT stuff ... so long as they get to continue to fleece America (and the world) they could care less what is done to our kids, what they are taught, what they eat...
         
         Trump is someone they can't buy... Trump has been regular American's FU to the 'well educated' and 'ruling class' people in DC...
         
         It is easy to buy American politicians... whether you are a nation like China or an individual like Soros... you don't get to DC without being bought by someone... Soros is just smarter, in that he buys State AGs and Governors, changing things at the lower levels of governance, which allows them to control the direction those states go in, including their election laws and the counting of ballots.
         
         Unless you are Trump and use your own money and a couple of election gimmicks like matching funds from the government to get there.

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            tsmogposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

            Just for giggles and who cares . . .
            
            From Open Secrets . . .
            
            Summary data Trump fund raising totals
            https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presid … =N00023864
            
            Top Industries, federal election data for Donald Trump, 2024 cycle
            This page shows contributions sorted by industry to the candidate's campaign committee plus any super PACs or hybrid PACs working on his or her behalf
            https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presid … =N00023864

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               Ken Burgessposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

               Appreciated...
               
               More to the point I was trying to make... which does not hold true now like it did then...
               
               When Trump first got in the ring of politics and running for President, the money he used was predominantly his own, I remember much being made about how the RNC was trying not to support him and considered going with Texas Senator Ted Cruz even after Trump had all but sewn it up...
               
               Without being a billionaire and having the ability to play to the crowd and garner 'free' media attention that he has, he would have never been able to take the route to the Presidency he did.
               
               He wasn't selected or approved by the 'machine'... the RNC worked against him, outspending him during the primaries and working against him almost up to the very last day.

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      MizBejabbersposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      Grace, why do you say that the dems have abandoned the blue collar middle class? It looks to me like it is the other way around. The Republican regimes in the U.S. led by big corporations sent their businesses overseas and there was a lot of anti union sentiment going on under them. We all suffered for that. I don't believe anyone can deny that it sorely affected our educated class. Do you actually enjoy dealing with a foreigner who barely speaks English when you are trying to get a problem straightened out with your credit card or your cable TV back on the air?
      
      It is a shame that crops rot in the field because Americans won't lower themselves to pick them and we have to rely on aliens, legal or illegal, to pick them.  I don't recall this happening when families owned their own farms and could hire local pickers. My own family moved to the State of Washington and picked apples after WWII because the family farm would no longer support them.
      
      No one seems to realize that this started when big corporations bought out the small family farmers, sometimes literally running them off their land. Eminent domain is a harsh reality.
      
      I don't particularly like the border problem, but the bipartisan bill was killed in Congress when Donald Trump influenced the Republicans to vote against it.
      
      The Republicans are promising to take us back to the 19th Century. That is what Dems are fighting hard to prevent.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks ago

   I live in a middle class area. Three stores are folding here: Big Lots, Rite Aide and Magic Cuts. Why? I wonder. I think it's because the middle class can no longer afford to shop at these once popular stores. The middle class is not so middle any more. Even their middle class homes are too expensive for them now.
   
   I watched an amazing movie made in the 1930s. It's called the Wild Boys of the Road.  Teens left home during the Depression and basically became hobos, traveling about on trains and surviving the best they could in droves. This phenomenon apparently occurred not even a century ago! Could another depression take place where parents can't afford to feed their offspring? In this movie, teens of all ages decide to leave home to make their way in the world, so as not to burden their parents!
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Boys_of_the_Road

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      gmwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      Unfortunately, there are solidly middle class families who are living in cars.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks ago

   and this is happening in China:
   
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAxhQDPVS8A

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks ago

   Do democrats care about the youth? Trump advocates for school choice. Freedom of school choice is what we need for many reasons. https://www.heritage.org/education/comm … ce-winning
   
   Democrats are against school choice. Why? Scores are very low and it is apparent that something must change.
   https://dfer.org/2023/05/08/dfer-poll-u … l-options/
   
   
   Eduction does seem to be horrible today. My friend's granddaughter just received a F in English, her first semester in Middle school. The whole family is horrified. What happened? Not one teacher in her elementary school informed the parents that the child could not write, spell or read to grade level!

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      gmwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      No the Democrats have an underlying agenda which are not beneficial to our youth.   Many of our youth are underperforming in relevant subjects which doesn't prepare them for 21st century society.

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   Ken Burgessposted 5 weeks ago

   We only have 7 days left until we are done...
   
   all that is left then is to get the popcorn and watch heads explode...

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

         Enjoy every moment until the election, I say.
         Every single, little moment. Smile with the peace that is left over from when Regan and Trump were in office.
         A percolating economy will be the first to go.
         Enjoy the flow of money and jobs while they are here for a little while longer.
         
         Hopefully I'm being overly dramatic.

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   Kathleen Cochranposted 5 weeks ago

   Democrats are made up of the educated for a reason. Republicans have driven the thinking America away for generations (when's the last time they won a popular vote for president?) and now they are complaining about the make-up and intentions of the partly. Unbelievable  even for them.

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      abwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      "Democrats are made up of the educated for a reason. Republicans have driven the thinking America away for generations (when's the last time they won a popular vote for president?) and now they are complaining about the make-up and intentions of the partly. Unbelievable  even for them."
      
      The "educated" Democratic "Partly" is campaigning to make the case that the sitting President of the United States did not refer to Trump supporters as garbage, he was using an apostrophe....
      This is an "education", America cannot afford!

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         Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

         My gosh, Harris is out daily not only telling one lie after another, but saying some very derogatory things about a man who has worked so hard for us all, and continues to work...  Hey, be proud and loud.

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      Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      "Democrats are made up of the educated for a reason. Republicans have driven the thinking America away for generations (when's the last time they won a popular vote for president?) and now they are complaining about the make-up and intentions of the partly. Unbelievable  even for them."
      
      It's interesting to hear that perspective, but let's remember that intelligence and education aren’t confined to one party.   Many Republicans are educated and contribute valuable insights to our society. Instead of focusing on labels or who has "driven thinking America away," perhaps we should be discussing the ideas and policies that can unite us. After all, healthy debate is essential in a democracy, and dismissing opposing views doesn’t help anyone.
      
      Standing on a pedestal as a rule is not such a good place to have a fair open discussion.

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         abwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

         Thank you Shar. Your response to this pedestal (not soap box) crusader was thought out, whereas, I definitely flew off the handle!
         Well done.

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            Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

            Angie, I am taking a page out of Trump's book--- "Please forgive him (them) for not knowing what he (they)  said," Taking the high road, not willing to get muddy.

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               abwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

               Oh trust me, it could have been a real muddy mess for me. I always edit and revise before submitting.

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                  Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                  don't we all?thank goodness for editing and revising capabilities!!!!! but then that is the nature of writing. or any creative process.
                  sometimes you break the rules. for effect. on purpose.
                  thank goodness for online ductionaries and spoll chack. think goodness for this technilogy, well applicated.

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                  Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                  LOL—me too! I can whip out some words and then realize, "Nope, can't post this!" But it definitely helps to release some stress.

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      Ken Burgessposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      Its a fair point...
      
      The Harvard and Yale types won't be supporting Trump...
      
      Trump draws the working-stiff blue-collar types to him...

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         Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

         When looking at wealth distribution between Republicans and Democrats, traditionally, Republicans have held more wealth due to their historical ties to industries like finance, real estate, and energy, which have been highly profitable. Many high-net-worth individuals in these fields tend to favor conservative economic policies, which advocate for lower taxes, reduced regulation, and a market-driven economy. This alignment has historically kept Republicans among the wealthier ranks of society, especially in older, established industries.

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         Readmikenowposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

         Ken,
         
         Do you think it is educated or indoctrinated? 
         
         I think democrats are definitely far more indoctrinated.  I'm always shocked when friends with kids in college tell me what is going on there.  Universities are slowly turning into democrat view indoctrination establishments.

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            Ken Burgessposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

            There are old voters whose minds are stuck ...
            
            They still think Dems are the working stiffs party
            
            While the Reps are the Rich and warmongering party ...
            
            That script has been flipped... the Neocons, big government, rich elitists all reside with the Dems...
            
            That's why Dick Cheney is for Harris and the Unions are getting behind Trump.
            
            Unfortunately most older voters are totally oblivious... They also are the ones who still listen to the likes of MSNBC and CNN not realizing it's all complete hogwash what they are peddling.
            
            Some things do remain the same... Dems are still the ones giving away free stuff for nothing, like they are doing now for migrants to buy those votes... and they are still the pro-abortion party and all that entails (feminism, down with the Patriarchy mindsets).
            
            The anti-war, Americans first, working class party is now MAGA... Trump has brought Gabbard and RFK Jr on board proving it.

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

               Yes.

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                  MizBejabbersposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                  RFK JR. you mean the guy who had the worm in his brain and now is anti vax. Gonna lose a few more kids with him at the helm of DHHS. Oh yes, and Matt Gaetz who is being investigated for a sex crime. As attorney general (if confirmed) he will be in charge of his own investigation. We know where that will go, don't we. Americans first, really now! And what is wrong with doing away with the Pauline Christian patriarchy mindset. What do you see wrong with equality?

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                     Kathryn L Hillposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                     "Pauline Christian patriarchy mindset."  ... what the heck is this?
                     Oh, a can of worms:
                     https://digitalcommons.iwu.edu/cgi/view … on_honproj

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                     Readmikenowposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                     democrats have a track record of starting and engaging in bogus investigations.  The type of investigations that are politically motivated.  I would like to see the evidence before I come to any conclusion.  I believe if it was actually bad the other Republicans would have joined in on working to bring charges.
                     
                     You see, democrats because they have such a long and involved history of politically motivated investigations have absolutely NO credibility.
                     
                     It is difficult to believe anything they say about anyone.

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                     Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                     I remember this worm-in-the-brain issue being blown out of proportion by the media. I also remember the same doctor who cared for his uncle Ted verifying the claim as factual.
                     
                     Robert F. Kennedy Jr. disclosed that he once had a parasitic worm in his brain. In 2010, he initially believed he had a brain tumor and considered surgery. However, after further evaluation, a doctor identified the issue as a parasite, potentially contracted during Kennedy’s environmental work in places like India. The worm had entered his brain, damaged part of it, and died. This issue was resolved over a decade ago. It's a shame the story is still being circulated.  However, many heard the worm report, but not the full report which was debunked. 
                     
                     I am not pleased with the Gaetz appointment, for a few reasons that do not touch on the investigation --- However, Yes, Matt Gaetz is currently under investigation. The House Ethics Committee is reviewing allegations against him, which include sexual misconduct and illicit drug use. This investigation has persisted over the years despite other investigations by the Department of Justice ending without charges.  Is it fair to say he is guilty without charges being levied by our premier law enforcement agency, the DOJ?

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                        Ken Burgessposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                        Gaetz will likely be blocked...
                        
                        Trump's team likely knows that...
                        
                        It uses someone whose political career might have ended... now "the Left" has to expend political capital to reject that nomination/appointment.
                        
                        They can only target and reject so many Trump appointees... the more they clog up the government and refuse his picks... the more the American populace will take out their IRE on Congress in 2026.
                        
                        I think it is even more important that Trump get in there and fire hundreds of top aides and appointees as soon as he gets sworn in... Day 1... the Pink Slips should be flowing like never in the history of America...
                        
                        This government is so corrupt... so expensive... so overburdened with regulations and bureaucracy that ridding it of 50% of all the positions and offices would most likely INCREASE its efficiency and ability to get things done.

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                           Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                           Ken,  Oh yes, the pink slips will roll. He’s not going to make the same mistake twice. The government has been corrupt for decades, but it’s gotten worse over the past 10 years. I agree that Matt probably won’t make it, and yeah, I think Trump knows this. I believe we’re on the brink of real change—he’s assembling a team committed to seeing it through, and they won’t be stopped. We need a complete overhaul. The left is panicking, realizing they’ve lost, and they’re lashing out at anything in their way. Their mindset has proven to be unhealthy for democracy. I can’t imagine the psychological toll this is going to take on many.
                           
                           It's clear that Trump has these individuals cornered. Even though Trump won, it hasn’t registered with many who continue to dwell on the same old narratives. It’s surprising they haven’t realized by now that these efforts have had no impact. Despite the relentless 24/7 attacks from the left-leaning media, no one seems to be swayed, and it appears many have seen through the media's propaganda. It’s truly a phenomenon. In my opinion, those suffering from this severe form of TDS are facing a genuine issue.

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