Too many republicans marching in lock step can destroy the bridge.

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   peoplepower73posted 2 months ago

   If you were ever in the military, you know that when marching across a bridge, you are told to break cadence.  Because if you march in lock step it can put stress on the bridge and even destroy it because all the force is in one direction.
   
   It's the same thing that Trump is doing by appointing all like thinking people to run his government.  This country and the Constitution was founded on three co-equal branches of power, The executive, The legislative, and the judicial all with equal power.  The brilliance of that by the framers is that the actually wanted a diverse government because it would be balanced among each of the three branches and could serve as guard rails from having one branch having too much power.
   
   What Trump is trying to do is place people in government who are loyal to him.  It doesn't matter whether they have any experience in that post or not. They will all be there to serve and protect Trump, not all  the people of this country. They say the people have spoken and they want Trump, but a very large majority of people really don't want him to president for this very reason.
   
   Here is the oath office.
   
   "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
   
   In his mind, Trump will probably be thinking, I'll just replace the words Constitution of the United States, with ME.
   
   Group think can be very dangerous because everybody thinks the same way and there is no diversity for new avenues of approach
   
   Emerson said this: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines."
   
   Be careful by marching in lock step, the bridge may collapse..  That's my quote.

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      Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      "Group think can be very dangerous because everybody thinks the same way ...
      
      They would jump off that bridge of trump told them to...
      
      "Rep. Troy Nehls told reporters after a GOP conference meeting with Trump on Wednesday that he and other Republicans will do anything the president-elect asks.
      
      “If Donald Trump says, ‘jump three feet high and scratch your head,’ we all jump three feet high and scratch our head,” he said.

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      wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Which Presidents have created a balanced cabinet?  That is a group of people pretty much balanced between right and left policies?
      
      A large percentage of people didn't want Obama or Biden either, but we got them and lived with the results. 
      
      (Bridge problems with marching soldiers might come about because of matching resonance between all those footsteps in unison and the natural frequencies of the bridge.  In addition, the footsteps can match the vibration producing aeroelastic flutter.  It is not because all the steps are going the same direction.  Your analogy would have to be that if we don't thrown in some destructive actions we will fail - that we cannot all the rights things and get success.)

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         Readmikenowposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         It actually depends on the bridge...not really a problem in modern times.

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            Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Its not the Republicans that have become radical or extreme:
            
            
            
            

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               wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               Tell that to women that can't get an abortion even though in dire straits.  Tell it to children viewing the ten commandments every day as they enter their school and then opening their new "textbook"; the Christian bible.
               
               On the whole Republicans have shifted left a bit over the last decade or so, but their radical fringe elements have, if anything, gone further right.  Further from what the people want.

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                  Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  The Abortion dilemma is an outlier... a one off... an issue that the majority on the Right sit at roughly 75-80% in favor of allowing for.
                  
                  It was not made illegal by the Supreme Court... merely kicked back to the States, which are going in every direction with it, most likely it will end back up in the Supreme Court and/or a law will be passed Nationally.
                  
                  The examples you could bring up regarding the Bible being reintroduced into schools I'm sure pales in comparison to the schools celebrating Pride Month.
                  
                  Democrats are out there...
                  On Immigration... on War... on Trans... on Equity... the majority does not align with their beliefs or where they want to take the country.

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                     wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                     Not saying the left isn't as bad or even worse.  But the far right fringe is feeling their oats and will, if given half a chance, force America into their brand of religious fervor.  Frankly I would rather see us join Europe in their own madness than take that road; every time it has happened that country absolutely goes to pieces.  The middle East.  Europe in the middle ages.  The Aztec culture.  It simply does not work, perhaps because the control must be continually enlarged and strengthened or it falls apart.  I don't really know why, I just know history says it doesn't work and the failure is really nasty.

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                        Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                        What is the far right... who with power represents it?
                        
                        You sound like a CNN sycophant... we KNOW Trump is not Hitler, we KNOW he is not going to declare martial law and take over the nation.
                        
                        We know this because he DIDN'T when he had a Pandemic which gave him the PERFECT opportunity to do something just like that...
                        
                        Cancel the election even...
                        
                        But he COULDN'T because the people who support him... are the straight shooters... the good guys... the hard working Americans that keep this country running... not the lunatics like we have on the Left...
                        
                        Not the people who talk about tearing down the country so it can be rebuilt... or built back better...
                        
                        Not the people who talk about a future... unburdened by what has been...
                        
                        Not people who talk about the 1st Amendment being a problem, or that the Constitution is outdated and needs to be tossed...
                        
                        Are you familiar with the movie "Winter Soldier"...
                        
                        I understand if you aren't, not all people grew up reading comics, so not all people are into Super Hero movies...
                        
                        Winter Soldier was an exception to storyline... it was almost a regular Spy Novel... no super powerful beings or magic... it was a great story, and in it, was a story that mirrored much of what we saw going on in society.
                        
                        Its a good watch... here is a link to it... you can watch it for free... if you know who Captain America is at all, the movie will make sense.
                        
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKB6mzts4NI
                        
                        The movie alludes to an enemy within the very Agency meant to protect America and its freedoms...
                        
                        Its action packed and makes you think...
                        
                        I would say that is very similar to today... there is an enemy within the very Agency (Agencies) meant to protect America and its freedoms...
                        
                        Now we get to see who wins the fight... who comes out on top...
                        
                        We can see what those that oppose Trump and his supporters want:
                        
                        Open Borders - Open Society
                        Suppression of Free Speech and Information
                        Mandatory Vaccinations
                        Higher Taxation
                        War... never ending War
                        Control...Big Brother type of Control

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                           wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                           I think we're talking about two different things.  Trump is not from the far radical right, although he does support some of their ideas. 
                           
                           But I'm not speaking of Trump, nor of the majority of even his most ardent supporters.  I'm speaking of the far right fringe, specifically the far religious right.  If Trump shuts them down, well and good; if he allows more and more of their wild demands (and/or the states) we will all pay a big price for it.
                           
                           I fully expect this thing of forcing their religion into our schools to quickly face, and lose, court battles...unless Trump takes steps to stop such action.  I'm just not real positive where he is coming from when it comes to religion in government.  We shall see.

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                              GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                              I hope you're right about talking about different things because  I agree with both and that can't work if you aren't.
                              
                              I also think the extreme religious and 'militia-type' Right are dangerous. Things could get carried away, but like you, I don't see Pres. Trump as their blank check. They're not who I read Ken to be talking about
                              
                              GA

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                                 wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                                 LOL  Yeah, I HOPE it's different things!  And I hope Trump is not their blank check.  If he comes down on the side of schools being the Christian indoctrination centers that the extreme far religious right are wanting it could be bad.

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                                    GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                                    Several of his picks could turn out to be as bad as some (me) think they are good.
                                    
                                    The Ten Commandments thing is a good idea wrongly applied. Teaching/reinforcing tenets of good character from the start is a good thing that should be supported, but using a religious concept isn't the right way to do it.
                                    
                                    Tsmogs '12 rules of Boy Scouts' would be a good start.
                                    
                                    GA

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                              Credence2posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                              Trump is amoral, he only gets on board with the Bible thumpers because they are a valued constituency. He packed the courts with right wing ideologue knowing that Roe vs Wade would be overturned, pleasing them to no end.
                              
                              He put Hutchinson in the position of ambassador to Israel, another concession to the Christian Right, and a national Bible Thumper. This man would easily stand aside and allow the Israelis to take it all, up to an including genocide again the Palestinians.
                              
                              As long as there is not threat to Trump or his money, he can gain a staunch ally at little cost to himself.

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                                 wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                                 In a sense I do hope Trump IS "amoral".  We do not need a President pushing their personal sense of morality willy nilly onto the nation, whether Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or any thing else.  Instead the President must have his or her finger on the pulse of America and know just what Americans in general think. 
                                 
                                 When a group in power decides to enforce their own version of "morality" rather than that of the population governed we end up with things like men in women's dressing rooms, competing in women's sports.  We end up with children mutilated to fulfill their parents wishes.  We get religious indoctrination in our schools, and watch our tax money go to support religious icons plastered all over public places.  We get things like the Blue Laws and Prohibition. 
                                 
                                 We even get racial, sexual and heritage discrimination against our people, all in the name of "equality".  So let's have a President that knows what the people think and want, willing to set aside their own sense of right and wrong in favor of the population they are governing.

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                     peoplepower73posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                     Why is it that Trump is appointing people to high positions in government who have no experience in those positions, and further they do not have qualifications for it? 
                     
                     Trump wants people who are loyal to him to serve and protect him from anything and everything.  He further wants to be able to manipulate people in these high positions. He wants a staff of people who will be beholden to him and pay homage to him. 
                     
                     Once he gets his AG in place, there will be nobody to stop  him, not even the Supreme Court.  The only one is God, but the Evangelical Christians won't allow that to happen, because they believe he was sent here by God.
                     
                     It's not too late, I think you can still buy Trump's bibles for 60 bucks.  They even have the Constitution in the back, which I'm pretty sure he has never read, just like the bible. When questioned by evangelicals, they asked him, What is your favorite passage in the bible? His answer was, "There are so many, I don't want to take up your time."
                     
                     That's typical of the propaganda Trump has been able to perform on "The Majority" who voted for him.

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            wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Depends on a lot of things.  Quite unusual, and modern engineering has put a stop to it as we understand and know how to avoid such a thing.

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            peoplepower73posted 2 months agoin reply to this

            It's just an analogy.  It has nothing to do with actual bridges.  All though if it were an old bridge, it would probably do damage to it. It's like group think when everybody is on the same page and they are afraid to voice their own opinion, it can create problems.  The neo-cons under George W is a good example of accusing Iraq of WMDs when they didn't have any, but we attacked anyway and were there for years.

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      Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I see your point about the analogy with military marching, and it's a good one, but I think it misses some key aspects of why Trump’s approach to appointing people may be more beneficial than it appears at first glance.
      
      Yes, the Constitution was designed with a system of checks and balances, but it was also meant to preserve the principle of accountability. Trump’s goal is not just to appoint people who are loyal to him personally; his focus is on appointing individuals who prioritize the values of America and who are not beholden to the status quo or the deep state. These are people who recognize that Washington has failed the American people for decades, and Trump wants to give them a voice in a system that often operates with its own self-interest in mind. That’s why loyalty to the values of America is so crucial, not just to Trump himself, but to the people he represents.
      
      It’s not about ignoring experience but about shaking up the system with people who bring fresh perspectives. Many of Trump’s appointments have been successful because they don’t have ties to traditional political structures. They’re not “career politicians,” but they understand that getting things done efficiently and in line with the American people’s needs is what matters most. For instance, his appointments to the judiciary have been based on strict constitutionalism, which strengthens the rule of law and ensures that power isn’t abused, which is precisely what the framers intended.
      
      As for the idea that a large majority doesn’t want Trump, I’d argue that the people who voted for him feel strongly about his message of returning power to the people, not perpetuating the political elite. Whether people agree with his approach or not, Trump’s ability to challenge conventional thinking is part of why so many support him. He’s not trying to break the system; he’s trying to fix it, putting power back in the hands of the American people, where it belongs.
      
      So, it’s not about loyalty for loyalty's sake. It’s about making sure that the government serves the people, not just a political class. That’s the real difference between Trump’s style and what we’ve seen in the past.
      
      
      I realize that Trump’s leadership and his choices for who he will bring into his administration will be hard for those who don’t understand or comprehend the "Make America Great Again" movement. However, the fact remains that he won the election, and a majority of voters have sent him back to continue his work. It’s clear that, once again, we are going to see the divide in this country perhaps get even wider. While this is unfortunate, it is also clear that many Americans want the change that Trump’s agenda offers.
      
      What’s important to remember is that Trump never hid his very unique agenda. He was outspoken and transparent about what he planned to do for this country, and that is part of the reason his supporters are so loyal. We who voted for him approve of what he offers and truly want the changes he has promised to bring. His approach may be different, but it is grounded in a desire to restore power to the people and to challenge the established norms that have failed so many Americans.

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         Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         "It’s about making sure that the government serves the people"
         
         How am I going to be served by these poorly qualified individuals?  On the job training?   The backlash in this country against science, against education and experience  is really rising to a very dangerous level.
         
         RFK JR thinks 5G is changing our behavior...  Do you think the man even understands the difference between Medicare part A and b?  Gaetz, Hespeth and Gabbard are all lacking qualifications. None of them have managed anything near the size and scope of the agencies they would be charged with.....

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   Credence2posted 2 months ago

   Republicans? Cowards all, they will allow Donald Trump to take the nation to the very precipice of its very survival.
   
   For the next 4 years it will be Helter Skelter.....the dust will not settle.

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      wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      LOL  Trump may draw us BACK from that precipice, the precipice that you and yours have dragged us to for the last 4 years.
      
      Or not - it may all depend on the willingness of liberals to accept they can't have everything their way and compromise.  (I can be as foolish as you and claim that Republicans are all willing to work together already.)

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         Credence2posted 2 months agoin reply to this

         "I can be as foolish as you and claim that Republicans are all willing to work together..."
         
         Aren't you?, actually believing someone like gaetz is an acceptable candidate? Conservatives are liars as well, you only talk compromise when you are behind the 8 ball. You certainly won't now, now that the red-slime is consuming Washington

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            wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Talked about it during Biden's reign, too.  He just wasn't interested; "compromise" to him mean vote for whatever I want you to. 
            
            Come to think of it, that may be the root of the problem; liberals don't know what the word means, and without knowing that how can it be discussed?

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         Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Dan, I think they’ve taken enough criticism, and while they’ll still speak up here and there, many will eventually realize the importance of working across the aisle. Some blue states may experience turmoil, and their representatives will come to understand that in order to keep their jobs, they’ll need to adapt and find common ground. Others will likely want to align with the side that is truly winning for Americans.  ( It’s clear that some blue state governors have already stepped up and stated they will not cooperate with Trump on immigration deportations. They are going to see a surge of migrants that will seek sanctuary. Won't go over well with most citizens, I imagine.)   
         
         Trump's victory is a clear sign that common sense is making a comeback.

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      Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      So dramatic...   What if you're wrong?  I will save this comment.

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   Venkatachari Mposted 2 months ago

   That is a good point. I was wondering the same thing looking at all those appointments.

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   MizBejabbersposted 2 months ago

   I would like to remind people who are posting their opinions here that kings and emperors REIGN.  Our presidents DO NOT REIGN, they are elected by the people to serve. I've noticed that the use of the word "reign" has been limited to one party, but more than one person has used the term on several different forums. Is it a Freudian slip that they mention the "reign" of President so in so. or President so in so's reign? Our president serves a term. The proper terminology is "President so in so's term". Is this a Freudian slip or just wishful thinking?

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   abwilliamsposted 2 months ago

   Well said Ken, for what it is worth with this crowd!

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      Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Thanks...
      
      And I gave a link to a movie that stars Robert Redford in it...
      
      Recommend if you've never seen it and like Spy or Action movies.

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   Venkatachari Mposted 2 months ago

   Yes, this is a potential danger to our freedom and rights. The Presidents or Prime Ministers we chose are good but their supporters and allies can be extreme radicals posing danger to our lives.

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      Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      The biggest threat we have had for many decades now is the unelected uncontrolled bureaucratic machine... The Agencies that are deep and dark and well funded...
      
      Trump got in there in 2016 and stirred up a hornets nest...
      
      The machine, the establishment has gone so over  the top to destroy this man it has made the true nature of our fed gov...  ...the establishment ...the halls of DC ...the corruption, the collusion obvious to the majority of Americans...
      
      They are willing to gut the nation and ship all our jobs overseas.  Let our foods be filled with poisons and big pharma bleed us dry.   Bring in millions of migrants to compete with Americans for jobs and lower wages.  Spend trillions we don't have for their friends to spend who tell them what stocks to buy and sell... While Americans get 25% inflation...
      
      Wars... Lockdowns ... Vaccine mandates ... information suppression and control...
      
      Some Americans see what is going on.  It started with Trump... Trump is a threat to that monster...

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