Another Elon Musk Win: Meta Switches to X's Community Notes

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  1. GA Anderson profile image81
    GA Andersonposted 6 weeks ago

    Meta Ditches Fact-Checkers For X-style Community Notes:

    "Meta is abandoning the use of third party fact-checking on Facebook and Instagram in the US and will replace it with X-style "community notes", where commenting on the accuracy of posts is left to users.

    In a video posted alongside a blog post by the company on Tuesday, chief executive Mark Zuckerberg said "it's time to get back to our roots around free expression".
    Zuckerburg video statement

    Oops, there really were 'alternate facts.'  ;-)

    GA

    1. tsmog profile image86
      tsmogposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      Joke of the day

      "Oops, there really were 'alternate facts.'"

      ha-ha wink

    2. Sharlee01 profile image87
      Sharlee01posted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      Just my view—I applauded the change. I believe free speech is the way to go. Sure, it has its downfalls, but it also sparks thought and debate, and it allows us to see society in full view. It pushes us to seek out facts for ourselves rather than being fed information through biased algorithms—algorithms that, at the end of the day, are shaped by human hands. I’ve seen far too much come from the government that seems to align with and promote what those algorithms push. It’s incredibly frustrating when I encounter such obvious bias on social media. If they are borrowing from X--- they have what in my view are fair terms.

      Yes, X (formerly Twitter) has a set of rules and policies regarding conduct. These are designed to maintain a safe and respectful environment for users. Some key points typically covered by X’s conduct rules include:

      Hate Speech and Harassment: X prohibits content that promotes violence, hate, or discrimination against individuals or groups based on race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, gender, or other protected categories.

      Abuse and Threats: Any threats of harm or abuse, including targeted harassment, are not allowed. This includes violent threats or encouraging harm against others.

      Misinformation and Manipulation: X also has policies to limit the spread of misinformation, particularly in areas like health, elections, and public safety.

      Impersonation: Impersonating other individuals, organizations, or public figures is against the rules, particularly if it’s intended to deceive or mislead others.

      Violent Content: Explicit or graphic content depicting violence is generally prohibited unless it’s for educational, documentary, or artistic purposes.

      Spam and Platform Manipulation: X discourages spammy behavior and any attempts to artificially manipulate engagement or the platform’s algorithms.

      1. Willowarbor profile image59
        Willowarborposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

        But you've advocated for  and championed trump when he threatens the media? When he floats the idea of taking away broadcast licenses over unflattering coverage?

        1. Sharlee01 profile image87
          Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

          Get help for your TDS... Or maybe just stick to the subject of the thread. As I have always said your bait is weak.

          1. abwilliams profile image71
            abwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

            The world is coming around to Trump and MAGA, with the exception of the ladies of "The View" and HP's TDS sufferers.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image87
              Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

              Positively true. Oh Yeah

    3. peterstreep profile image82
      peterstreepposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      Basically Elon Musk is the president of the USA and Trump follows.

      1. GA Anderson profile image81
        GA Andersonposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

        A lot of Democrats are saying that.

        GA

        1. peterstreep profile image82
          peterstreepposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

          Reason why I say this is that Musk gave a lot of money to president Trump. Trump owes him lots of favours. Money wise Trump is a tiny fish compared with Musk.
          Follow the money and you know where the true power is.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image68
            Ken Burgessposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

            BlackRock, Vanguard, JP Morgan

          2. GA Anderson profile image81
            GA Andersonposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

            It's just a thought, but I don't see their association as one of owed favors. Neither Trump accepting the debt of an owed favor nor Musk expecting the obligation of owed favors.

            I do see the Democrat promotion of 'President Musk' as simply an empty political ploy.

            GA

            1. Willowarbor profile image59
              Willowarborposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

              "It's just a thought, but I don't see their association as one of owed favors. Neither Trump accepting the debt of an owed favor nor Musk expecting the obligation of owed favors."

              And the same can be said of George Soros?

              1. GA Anderson profile image81
                GA Andersonposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                I don't know if "the same can be said." As noted, that was simply my perception of the Musk & Trump situation.

                GA

                1. Willowarbor profile image59
                  Willowarborposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                  So George Soros must wear  the puppet master label while Musk gets the benefit of the doubt.   Musk is the literal embodiment of everything the right has claimed Soros to be...

                  1. GA Anderson profile image81
                    GA Andersonposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                    Still don't have a thought on Soros. I've heard the stuff from the Republican Right about his political influence and I've seen the leader of the Democrat Party give him a medal for it. That combination offers a lot of dots for folks to connect.

                    Yes, Musk has earned my 'benefit of the doubt.'

                    As for him being the embodiment, I think you're wrong. And I don't think we will have to wait long to find out who is right.

                    GA

            2. IslandBites profile image93
              IslandBitesposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

              Damn, full MAGA.

              I mean, it's been obvious. Still, sad.

              1. GA Anderson profile image81
                GA Andersonposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                What has been obvious? What are my guesses?

                Is it that I am now "full MAGA"? Or Musk is full MAGA? Or that Musk really is the shadow President? Or . . . what?

                As for "sad," if it is applied to me, save it for someone else. It doesn't reflect well.

                GA

            3. Sharlee01 profile image87
              Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

              I think they've attempted to cancel him out, but in my view, it's a very obvious ploy that's already fizzling out. It's only a matter of time before they turn their attention to one another. These kinds of tactics have become so blatantly obvious and, to some, almost desperate-looking.

              1. GA Anderson profile image81
                GA Andersonposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                A segment of CNN panelists spoke to the claims and innuendos being purposeful wedges intended to enflame an ego to create division between the two. Sounds right to me.

                I think it's a legitimate ploy. Both sides do it and everyone knows it's a political ploy. Sometimes they work. I don't think we've seen whether this one will, yet.

                GA

          3. Sharlee01 profile image87
            Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

            Does this apply to both parties?

          4. Miebakagh57 profile image75
            Miebakagh57posted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

            Is Musk the only one that gave billions to Trump?

            1. peterstreep profile image82
              peterstreepposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

              Musk gave 265 million.
              then there is a big gap and investor Timothy Mellon gave 150 million.
              They don't give the money away for free. Of course they want something in return. Wouldn't you?

      2. Miebakagh57 profile image75
        Miebakagh57posted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

        LOL!

        1. peterstreep profile image82
          peterstreepposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

          Perhaps it was funny if it didn't show the huge corruption of the Trump party and the US as a country.

          1. Miebakagh57 profile image75
            Miebakagh57posted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

            The USA is not a one-party state.

  2. IslandBites profile image93
    IslandBitesposted 6 weeks ago

    Yuck.

    1. GA Anderson profile image81
      GA Andersonposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      At least you still have Bluesky.

      GA ;-)

      1. IslandBites profile image93
        IslandBitesposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

        Thanks?

        I never used X, and Facebook and Insta I only use with my family.  I do not have, dont need, wont have Bluesky.

        So my yuck was for other reasons. wink

      2. Ken Burgess profile image68
        Ken Burgessposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

        Echo Chamber... Fringe... Much like Truth Social is only used by a section of our society.

        Facebook... Twitter/x... Will remain relevant and far outreaching anything set up as an alternative for the foreseeable future.

        I always think of the book Big Sky that I read decades ago when I see Blue Sky ... Such a completely different world we live in compared to that glimpse into the past.

        He had lived a man's life, and now it was at an end, and what had he to show for it?

        Two horses and a few fixin's and a letter of credit for three hundred and forty-three dollars. That was all, unless you counted the way he had felt about living and the fun he had had while time ran along unnoticed.

        It had been rich doings, except that he wondered at the last, seeing everything behind him and nothing ahead. It was strange about time: it slipped under a man like quiet water, soft and unheeded but taking a part of him with every drop - a little quickness of the muscles, a little sharpness of the eye, a little of his youngness, until by and by he found it had taken the best of him almost unbeknownst. He wanted to fight it then, to hold it back, to catch what had been borne away.

        It wasn't that he minded going under, it wasn't that he was afraid to die and rot and forget and be forgotten; it was that things were lost to him more and more - the happy feeling, the strong doing [the sharp mind]

        1. GA Anderson profile image81
          GA Andersonposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

          Great blurb. I saw it as I read it. The closing was the perfect statement.

          GA

  3. GA Anderson profile image81
    GA Andersonposted 6 weeks ago

    CNN has been all over the Meta story this morning.

    A CNN host spoke with Gov.Sununu this morning and asked him who would be responsible for 'finding the truth' without the fact-checkers.

    The governor's answer seemed to flummox the host. He said the user was responsible.

    Later ... In a segment about a Musk post where he called a user a retard. The host couldn't say the word (called it the "R-word") and the image of the post had the word retard burred out.

    Of course, it's not polite (now) to use the word, but to blur it out? That's cowardice. And that's our current state of affairs.

    GA

    1. tsmog profile image86
      tsmogposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      "And that's our current state of affairs."

      With jest, I will have to fact check that.

      1. GA Anderson profile image81
        GA Andersonposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

        You picked an easy one to fact-check. Start with when an illegal alien became an illegal immigrant who then became an undocumented immigrant who could also be an undocumented worker.

        GA

        1. tsmog profile image86
          tsmogposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Yup, on 'your' chosen topic. I am not even sure what your aim was. Did it have something to do with immigration? Don't confuse the hell out of me. If you can't make up your mind what in the hell do you expect me to do? Fact check it? C'mon . . . get real.

          1. GA Anderson profile image81
            GA Andersonposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

            My aim was to irritate Liberals. Anything that seems to praise Musk also seems to irritate them.

            The immigration line was to address your fact-checking of the ". . . current state of affairs."

            GA

            1. Willowarbor profile image59
              Willowarborposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

              Did you hear Trump's response to the question during his dining room presser today?  Reporter asked Trump if Zuckerberg acted in response to Trump's previous threats... Trump's response? "Yeah probably".   

              Zuck is such a weenie.  Waiting for his response...

              1. GA Anderson profile image81
                GA Andersonposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                Or maybe he is a realist. If so, he has some big-name company: Disney, McDonald's, and several other international companies that are dropping DEI programs.

                GA

            2. Sharlee01 profile image87
              Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

              "My aim was to irritate Liberals. Anything that seems to praise Musk also seems to irritate them."

              Missed that, thought you were going for thoughts on free expression via free speech on social media. Like those better--- "My aim was to irritate Liberals. Anything that seems to praise Musk also seems to irritate them" Seems it worked.

              1. GA Anderson profile image81
                GA Andersonposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                Yep, it works great on my son.  ;-)

                GA

            3. tsmog profile image86
              tsmogposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

              I ask your forgiveness. With the original reply with jest I was being facetious about 'current state of affairs', which the 'key' word is "Current". Current meaning the state of 'Now'. I must have missed the mark that being how do you fact check, 'Now'.

              The reply to your fact checking names for illegal immigrant was just making fun of 'Fact checking' following the theme of 'Current', of which is the state of 'Now'.

              Otherwise, I am thankful I am not a liberal.

              1. GA Anderson profile image81
                GA Andersonposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                To borrow a phrase: Okay . . .  ;-)

                There was nothing 'deep' or partisan about the 'poke', it was just a for-fun poke.

                GA

                1. tsmog profile image86
                  tsmogposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Thanks!

                  Like I shared once upon a time, I am kicking back watching chaos theory unfold while entropy seeks to predict the future.

                  I am playing around with . . .

                  I won't post the pic of popcorn, though the popping of corn is illustrative of entropy in action. Using the illustration think of Shannon's Information Theory and its relationship with Entropy. Then ponder the new policy with Meta while remembering the phenomena of misinformation.

                  Certainty ↔ Uncertainty

                  1. GA Anderson profile image81
                    GA Andersonposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                    I shan't think of it I tell you. I shan't. I shan't because I don't know what it is, and I'm betting a bit of rebellious credibility that if I did look it up it would end where so many other 'look-ups' have: to the unchangeable and inevitability of human nature and the psyche it creates, will be the root cause regardless of the topic.

                    That's something I already know.

                    Still, you know I will look it up now.

                    [EDIT ADDED}
                    Oops. I'll have some fries with that crow, please.

                    GA

  4. Willowarbor profile image59
    Willowarborposted 6 weeks ago

    And if the prevailing sentiment turns against the oligarchs, how long until "there's too much misinformation, we have to monitor and control it for your own good.?" SO predictable.

    Musk always seems to find a reason to silence his opponents

  5. Credence2 profile image80
    Credence2posted 5 weeks ago

    I was suspicious of Musk and his motives from the very beginning  This arrogant world's richest man shows a lack of decorum and wisdom that I value more than money. But the Right always assumes that the richest man is always the smartest and best qualified, I beg to differ in that opinion.The Boy Blunder has been stoking the rise of the most dangerous Right wing politics in both Germany and Britain. My olfactory senses are still good, and in Musk, I smelled a rat.


    https://thehill.com/policy/internationa … k-germany/

  6. Readmikenow profile image94
    Readmikenowposted 5 weeks ago

    Does anyone realize how the biden administration controlled Facebook?  They blatantly censored speech. 

    "Zuckerberg regrets bowing to Biden 'pressure' over Covid

    Meta boss Mark Zuckerberg says he regrets bowing to what he calls pressure from the Biden administration to "censor" content on Facebook and Instagram during the coronavirus pandemic.

    In a letter sent to a US House committee chair, he said some material – including humour and satire – was taken down in 2021 under pressure from senior officials.

    The White House has defended its actions, saying it encouraged "responsible actions to protect public health and safety".

    Mr Zuckerberg also said his firm briefly "demoted" content relating to Joe Biden's son, Hunter, ahead of the 2020 election, after the FBI warned of "a potential Russian disinformation" operation.

    It later became clear that this content was not part of such an operation, Mr Zuckerberg said, and it should not have been temporarily taken down.

    Mr Zuckerberg did not give further detail about the actions he regretted during the pandemic. At that time, his business removed posts for a variety of reasons.

    Mr Zuckerberg said the decisions made were the decisions of his business, but that the “government pressure was wrong”.

    He continued: "We made some choices that, with the benefit of hindsight and new information, we wouldn't make today."

    Mr Zuckerberg said he and Meta would be ready to "push back" if something similar happened in the future.

    His letter was addressed to Jim Jordan, the chair of the House judiciary committee, which has been investigating content moderation on online platforms. Republicans said the letter was a "big win for free speech".

    In a statement issued to the website Politico, the White House stood by its actions.

    It said: “Our position has been clear and consistent: we believe tech companies and other private actors should take into account the effects their actions have on the American people, while making independent choices about the information they present.”

    Hunter Biden controversy
    Mr Zuckerberg's comments on Hunter Biden refer to the story of a laptop that was abandoned by the president's son at a repair shop in Delaware - as first reported by the New York Post.

    The newspaper claimed emails found on the computer suggested his business abroad had influenced US foreign policy while his father was vice-president.

    The president and his family have denied any wrongdoing.

    The story became a notable right-wing talking point in the US, and a point of contention as some social media platforms censored the content.

    Mr Zuckerberg said the story was temporarily demoted on his platforms while going through a fact-check - after a warning from the FBI of a potential Russian disinformation operation, and "in retrospect, we shouldn't have demoted the story," Mr Zuckerberg wrote.

    "We've changed our policies and processes to make sure this doesn't happen again."

    Mr Zuckerberg also said he did not plan to make any more contributions to supporting electoral infrastructure.

    In 2020, he donated $400m (£302m) via his philanthropic Chan Zuckerberg Initiative which was intended to help government offices conduct the election during the pandemic.

    However, misinformation spread rapidly on social media accusing Mr Zuckerberg of effectively using a loophole to skirt maximum donation limits in a bid to get Mr Biden elected.

    Mr Zuckerberg said his donations "were designed to be non-partisan".

    "Still, despite the analyses I've seen showing otherwise, I know that some people believe this work benefited one party over the other.

    "My goal is to be neutral and not play a role on way or another - or to even appear to be playing a role - so I don't plan on making a similar contribution this cycle."

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czxlpjlgdzjo

  7. tsmog profile image86
    tsmogposted 5 weeks ago

    This forum topic seems the most active today, Wed 01/08. Just passing on some information I learned one may like to know.

    "Post Offices Will Close January 9TH in National Day of Observance. MINNESOTA — Post Offices will be closed on Thursday, January 9, 2025, in National Day of Observance to honor former President Jimmy Carter, who died Dec. 29 at age 100.

    https://about.usps.com/newsroom/local-r … rvance.htm

 
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