Secret Service having hard time protecting Obama

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  1. TimTurner profile image68
    TimTurnerposted 14 years ago

    According to a new report, threats against Obama are up 400% more than threats against Bush while the Secret Service staff has increased by only 5%:  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts950

    Apparently, the secret service also goes after financial crimes (which I didn't know) but might have to pull personnel from the financial sector to the president.

    Why does the secret service go after financial crimes?

    The article says that technology could be to blame for the extra personnel to cover threats because of the accessibility of the internet to conspire against the president.

    1. Pr0metheus profile image58
      Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It's because right wing nuts are more prone to violence than left wing nuts.  (I'm gonna laugh when someone posts a heated response to this post.)

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        A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Its because right wing nuts are better shots!

      2. TimTurner profile image68
        TimTurnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Left wing don't have the guns.  They voted against them smile

      3. earnestshub profile image73
        earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        That sums it up well, I see a well adjusted level headed smart president, they see the anti-christ! lol

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          A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          No, we see somebody who has tripled the debt, but you're not American so you don't care about our debt. If you like him so much let him run your Country into the ground.

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            sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            We'll trade you for an opal mine!

            1. Eaglekiwi profile image75
              Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Think China might have beat ya there sneak lol

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                sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Ah crap! I always miss out!smile

            2. Eaglekiwi profile image75
              Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Texan you have no idea what I care about? and to assume I dont care about America because I wasnt born here ? gimme a break ,sometimes I wonder if you have any idea how you sound?

            3. earnestshub profile image73
              earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Australians are generally more aware of world politics than you may know, living in the shadow of the all powerful USD we are as aware of what goes on in America as most Americans are.
              We are affected by America's economy like you are, and so are hundreds of countries because of the size of your economy, the legal controls that you impose on us, and the solid threats of economic consequences if we do not toe the line. smile
              As for the debt, he did not cause the American economy to collapse. smile

              1. Eaglekiwi profile image75
                Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                You tell 'em Earnest , and hopefully the dayshift will scroll back wink that function works when they want it do lol

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                  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Allright you two! SHARK!!!!

                  1. earnestshub profile image73
                    earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                    Where? where???

        2. Eaglekiwi profile image75
          Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Be carefeul Earnest youre not American wink

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        Sashey8posted 14 years agoin reply to this

        I didn't know that right wing nuts( as you call it) were more violent than left wing nuts. Boy you learn something new every day on the internet lol

    2. AEvans profile image74
      AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I would like to know how they have came about deciding what percentage they are concluding. I do have to say that the media is getting a little carried away. Have we forgtten that Bush got us into this mess to begin with? He certainly is not a Saint! Our military is still coming home in body bags because he wanted to complete what his father did not finish. Do we remember 09/11 the attacks? What was his happy but doing? Reading books to children and ignoring the cries of help from his own military how many died? I had friends who died in the attacks of 09/11. So now expect OBAMA to clean up a huge mess that was left behind in a matter of months. We hold him accountable for actions made by a Republican? Of course we are going to be threatened look at what the media is doing? They are demons themselves and also expect him to make our Country perfect which took 8 years to do? It is going to take years to fix our economy and even once the Obama presidency is over someone unfortunate soul is still going to have to clean up Bush's crap!
      I am not a staunch Republican nor Democrat but I certainly do believe in respecting who is in office and monitoring what they are doing without crying wolf everything takes time to fix and this mess that our Country is in will NOT happen overnite. smile

      Are you sure you are not a mole? lololo big_smile

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        A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Whining about Bush (though typical)is not going to end the War. Even though you seem to forget Bush is not the President and the current incompetent is capable of ending war right now, so who is at fault?

        1. Pr0metheus profile image58
          Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Did you just admit that Bush was incompetent?

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            A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Yes many times, are you new here?

            1. Pr0metheus profile image58
              Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Relatively... never thought I'd see you admit that, though.

        2. AEvans profile image74
          AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Who is whining I clearly made a statement funny how the buck is always passed. There is a lot more to IRAQ then pulling the troops out all at one time. We know it takes planning do we not? We also know that pulling our military out of IRAQ could also lead to attacks upon our own soil. I certainly have not forgotten that Bush is no longer President that response certainly does not make any sense. I agree that both are incompetent but what did the former incompetent do to get us in to such a big mess to begin with? Are you now defending the worse President in history? Cleaning up one hell of a mess is certainly not going to happen in a year, how would you handle it if you were President? smile

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            A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I would never defend the worst President in History, thats why Jimmy Carter has people like you! If I were President I would bomb Baghdad relentlessly until every building was destroyed! I do not care about collateral damage I care about winning and setting an example for the rest of the middle east! Good thing I'm not President, huh?

            Oh yeah right after I bombed the shit out them I would put up a sign that said "Gas station number 1"

            1. AEvans profile image74
              AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              You are funny!!! I never said I was a Democrat nor a Republican and I was a little girl when Jimmy was President but do you believe by bombing Baghdad and taking thousands of more lives would really change anything? What about the innocent? Women and small children? If you were President we would all be in trouble. lolololo big_smile

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                A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                I know you never said you were a Democrat, just took a guess. I don't care about Iraqi women and children, Sorry bout their luck. The allies did not care about German women and children they fought to win, thats the last time we have had a clear victory by the way!

                1. AEvans profile image74
                  AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  You know you are absolutely correct on that one and Hitler spared no mercy which is quite disheartening all of those lives lost that was quite sad. sad

          2. Mikel G Roberts profile image75
            Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I only disagree with who the worst president was (U.S. Grant)

            He was a great soldier and a terrible statesman.

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        gradykposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I agree bush made a mess, but obama has made a bigger mess of his own. And more important is the fact that he doesnt care what the American people (The Majority) want. He doesnt give a damn what the constitution says either. And throwing good money after bad isnt a solution, its stupidity. And what about forcing people to buy insurance ( unless youre a muslim). Im a Christian and I dont believe in insurance either, I dont go to the doctor. Ive been healed by God, I dont want or need insurance, thats my right as an American citizen. At least that use to be my right. Now it seems as though we only have rights if were muslim or some other minority group.Were all suppose to have the same rights. But not under this president.

    3. Ivorwen profile image65
      Ivorwenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I hope the idiots mind their manners and the secret service is up to their job! 

      The local cops say they tend to have a hard time doing their duty, like when they heard gun-fire during at Christmas party at Cheney's.  The secret service stood around trying to figure out what to do while the local cops had to go out and ask the neighbors not to hunt skunk with the vice president so close.

    4. ledefensetech profile image69
      ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The secret service is part of the Treasury Department.  They tend to go after counterfeiters.

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        sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        And they could open the borders that would make alot easier to protect the president.

        1. ledefensetech profile image69
          ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          People don't hate us because we have open borders, they hate us because we interfere in events around the world.  Grow up.

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            sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            You know I just finished a ban for a personal attack because a little man insulted me and I offered him a dose of his own medicine and he turned me in. I'm not a tattle-tale I wouldn't do that but you need to check yourself.

            I am suggesting we mind our own buisness and limit ourselves to taking care of America. That does sound juvinile doesn't it?

            1. ledefensetech profile image69
              ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Sure, but you don't take care of America, by cutting us off from our strength.  We imported all sorts of radicals after the failed revolutions of 1848 and their nonsense didn't destroy us.  Neither did their bombs.  Look up the Haymarket incident.  We only started to become a problem for the world when we started riding into town and telling everyone how to live.  Stop that and you stop the attacks.  How many people perpetrate attacks against the Swiss, or the Austrians?  Why aren't those nations attacked?  They're just as Western as Europe and the US, so why don't they get attacked?

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                sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                No forgien bases, they take care of themselves and I'll bet their contributions to the world charities is a speck of what we give. I'm not suggesting we don't trade, just trade fairly, Since when is it our job to protect a bunch of ungrateful, disreapectful and concieted europeans. Oh yea, and all our friends to the south treat us with alot of respect too! They need us worse than we need them it's time to use that to our advantage, you know like China!

                1. ledefensetech profile image69
                  ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I'm not in disagreement with most of that.  I happen to be related to some of those Southerners you speak of and they're still disgruntled over the land grab we call the Mexican-American War.  The treaty of Guadalupe took half of what was then Mexico. 

                  Personally speaking, some members of my mother's family were run out of Texas during the independence movement.  Many Mexicans fought with the Texans, but were run out in the end. 

                  So yeah, there might be a little something to being treated with disdain by out southern neighbors.

                  If we're in trouble with the Chinese it's because we've become fat, stupid and lazy under the reign of the Progressives.  The first step it getting rid of the lot of them and returning us to the ideals of the Republic.

    5. justinvestal profile image59
      justinvestalposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The Secret Service was started to combat counterfitters.

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        sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Are they good at it?

        1. ledefensetech profile image69
          ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Not really, their bosses are some of the biggest counterfeiters out there.

  2. habee profile image94
    habeeposted 14 years ago

    Nuts are nuts - right or left.

    Sorry to disappoint you, Pro. I don't have the energy right now for a heated response. LOL!!

    Actually you might have a point. Right wing nuts are probably more likely to be heavily armed! They believe in the 2nd amendment, while many lefties don't.

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      Lady_Eposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Totally agree with you. smile

  3. Pr0metheus profile image58
    Pr0metheusposted 14 years ago

    Habee  - That's why (although left) I could never be a left wing nut... I love my guns!

    1. LiamBean profile image80
      LiamBeanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hear hear. I love the loud pop or bang and the bright blue flame leaping out of the barrel.

      1. Pr0metheus profile image58
        Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        I love em loaded, unloaded, cap, bb, however.  Hell I can have hours of fun loading a clip into a pistol and dropping it out.  Still nothin like firing an assault rifle though.


        (I hope you're not talkin about me sneako... I never reported you.

        1. profile image0
          A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          A clip? I guess you mean a magazine? Rookies!

          1. Pr0metheus profile image58
            Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            So you're gonna be that guy, huh?

        2. Jeffrey Neal profile image71
          Jeffrey Nealposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          An empty magazine, I hope.

          1. Pr0metheus profile image58
            Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Course...

            1. Jeffrey Neal profile image71
              Jeffrey Nealposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              cool  don't need any more dufuses giving gun owners a bad rap smile

              1. profile image0
                A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                "He died while cleaning his gun" Right!

          2. tksensei profile image61
            tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Like Newsweek?

            1. ledefensetech profile image69
              ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Time

            2. Jeffrey Neal profile image71
              Jeffrey Nealposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              big_smile

        3. profile image0
          sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          No it wasn't you, I think you can take what you dish out, you're definately a man.

          1. Pr0metheus profile image58
            Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Now that's something I never thought you would call me, haha.

            1. profile image0
              sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              I don't know what came over me! It must be those happy pills the Doc gave me!

  4. habee profile image94
    habeeposted 14 years ago

    Tim and Tex, I see we were thinking the same thing at the same time!

    1. Pr0metheus profile image58
      Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      We all are, that was the joke tongue

  5. habee profile image94
    habeeposted 14 years ago

    Good for you, Pro!

  6. TimTurner profile image68
    TimTurnerposted 14 years ago

    Hahaha  We all had fun with that one.

    I wonder if there is someone in the Secret Service reading HubPages forums?

    Think about all the forums out there.  They have to try to cover or scan as many as they can to find the smallest info on threats to Obama and terrorism, right?

    1. dutchman1951 profile image59
      dutchman1951posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      They probly have some massive search spider that constantly hunts down threats, and alerts them.

  7. profile image0
    A Texanposted 14 years ago

    But to clarify, there have been more violent left wing terrorists than right wing.

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image78
      Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      But who is Obama in more danger from at the moment?

      1. profile image0
        A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        It ain't Fox news but he sure fears them!

        1. Uninvited Writer profile image78
          Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, but some on Fox like to rile people up smile

      2. TimTurner profile image68
        TimTurnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        The article specifically points out the fact that Obama is Black is the reason why his threats are up 400%.

        Skinheads and crazies in the sticks.

        They have their own party and wing.

    2. Pr0metheus profile image58
      Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      According to.....

      1. profile image0
        A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        History! Google list of both and see what you get.

        1. Pr0metheus profile image58
          Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Don't have the time right now... there's no Rasmussen report polls that back that claim? tongue

  8. habee profile image94
    habeeposted 14 years ago

    I did not vote for Obama, but I do have empathy for him. I can't imagine what his daily life must be like. I really don't understand why anyone would want the job as POTUS.

  9. habee profile image94
    habeeposted 14 years ago

    Should something happen to BO, I think the country would suffer a meltdown, especially if it were racially motivated. I vote they give him more secret service folks!

  10. habee profile image94
    habeeposted 14 years ago

    I hate it when my husband watches Glenn Beck! He always gets so worked up. If I watch FOX, I prefer watching Mike Huckabee's show. He's calm, funny, and respectful of his guests.

    1. profile image0
      A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Most of them if not all are respectful to their guests. Orilley just never shuts up!

    2. TimTurner profile image68
      TimTurnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I prefer Family Guy on FOX smile

      1. Pr0metheus profile image58
        Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        House M.D. 4 me big_smile

  11. habee profile image94
    habeeposted 14 years ago

    Worst president in history? I thought that was Jimmah Cahta.

    1. profile image0
      A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It is!

      1. tksensei profile image61
        tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        But we seem to have a real contender in the race now!

  12. Mighty Mom profile image75
    Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

    NCIS -- They're FBI but I'm sure would cover POTUS in a heartbeat if needed big_smile

    1. profile image0
      A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  13. Pr0metheus profile image58
    Pr0metheusposted 14 years ago

    According to Rasmussen?

    http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html

  14. habee profile image94
    habeeposted 14 years ago

    I don't understand the thinnking on Afghanistan. Obama said it's war we MUST win. If that's the case, why are we dribbling in troops and fire? Go in, get the job done, and get out. Or either leave it alone. This is going to turn into another Viet Nham.

  15. Flightkeeper profile image67
    Flightkeeperposted 14 years ago

    It's not just the domestic crazies, now we have to worry about al qaeda crazies. And also the muslim crazies who think he's an apostate.

  16. habee profile image94
    habeeposted 14 years ago

    Back to the presidents: In the feb. 2009 USA/Gallup poll, guess which president was voted as the greatest of all time?

    Reagan! He beat Kennedy, Lincoln, and all the rest. I was surprised.

    1. TimTurner profile image68
      TimTurnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      He was a good president for sure!

    2. profile image0
      A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not

  17. sooner than later profile image60
    sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

    I wonder how long it will take before there are attempts.

    Right wing, left wing I don't think he should get waxed.

  18. Pr0metheus profile image58
    Pr0metheusposted 14 years ago

    I guess the question to them is: Do you really want Joe Biden to take over?

    1. profile image0
      A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      There is no one in that line of succession I want to see as President!

      1. Pr0metheus profile image58
        Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        You're one of them!  I'm telling!

  19. Lori J Mitchell profile image59
    Lori J Mitchellposted 14 years ago

    Just my guess but I'm thinking it's because in the future Obama will go down in history as one of the worst presidents ever.  People are angry because he's hurting them on a personal level and his policies are horrible.  He is taking food out of their children's mouths with his ridiculous programs.  Or it could be because they are getting sick and tired of being called racists because they don't agree with his policies and as we see with children, if you are called something often enough you start to believe it.  Or maybe just if you're being accused of something you decide "what the heck, you might as well do it".  Or it could be because we have never had a president that hates the US as much as this anti-American president and patriotism comes out in a lot of people and they want to protect their country at all costs.  Or it could be a combination of all of the above.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hear!Hear! Will you marry me!smile

      1. Lori J Mitchell profile image59
        Lori J Mitchellposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        LOL...I was expecting a total attack, I actually got somebody who agrees me with?

        1. profile image0
          sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Well you made perfect sense to me! Oh believe me they'll find you soon enough. If they get obnoxious turn them in thats they're favorite trick to silence opposition. I will see you around!

  20. Uninvited Writer profile image78
    Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

    It's funny, seems to me that I see conservatives screaming that they are being accused of being racist more often than I actually hear people say that they are racists because they disagree with the president.  As I have said before, someone calling you a racist is not going to make you a racist.

    As an outsider, I don't see that Obama is anti-American at all.

  21. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    For someone to say Obama hates America....how can you say that? I mean...how can you even say that?
    Funny...people used to say that about me when I disagreed with Bush. Remember that? Un-American...aiding and abetting the enemy....traitor!..... All those things were said about people who disagreed with Bush. And now look at you! You can say Obama hates America, question the war, question everything about him, and suddenly--it's patriotic!
    What hypocracy. And btw...you on the right are guilty too. Try questioning Israel and what do you get called? That's right....an anti-Semite. So, that labeling thing  works both ways.
    But, I'll tell you plain and simple...a lot of people ARE racist!
    Because, there were no tea-parties when Bush was doing his damage...
    Just the opposite...like I said, it was un-American to question Bush.
    So-how do you explain the switch?

    1. profile image0
      A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It wasn't unAmerican to question Bush, but I think the questions being asked were undermining policies designed to aid our military. Why would anyone want to do that? Oh yeah, the left hates the military, I almost forgot!

 
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