The Epstein Files

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  1. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 4 weeks ago

    Raskin demands release of any Epstein files mentioning Trump, Jack Smith report.

    LETS GO

    Democratic members of the House Judiciary Committee called on the Department of Justice (DOJ) to release former special counsel Jack Smith’s report on the Mar-a-Lago investigation as well as any of the Epstein files that reference President Trump, accusing Attorney General Pam Bondi of shielding potentially damaging information.

    “This Administration has repeatedly claimed that President Trump is ‘the most transparent and accessible president in American history.’ So far, your DOJ has not only failed to live up to this promise, but you have also consistently hidden from the American public materials and information that may be damaging to President Trump,” Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), the top Democrat on the panel, wrote in a letter to Bondi also signed by 15 other Democrats on the committee.

    “Your conduct is particularly worrisome as it appears to be part of a pattern of using the DOJ to cover up evidence of criminal wrongdoing by President Trump, including information allegedly contained in the Epstein files. We write today to demand that you release the Smith report immediately, as well as any evidence mentioning or referencing Donald Trump in the Epstein files.”

    Has the White House has moved to prevent the declassification and public release of the full Epstein files because they implicate Trump?

    Bondi was asked point blank about The client list specifically and she answered that it was on her desk.  But now? She tells us the list doesn't exist...

    Raskin demands release of any Epstein files mentioning Trump, Jack Smith report https://share.google/EWF78fYvWwC9q5OWr

    1. Kyler J Falk profile image78
      Kyler J Falkposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

      It's a strange development, and suddenly all of the big conservative influencers are actively downplaying it, telling people it isn't a pressing issue.

      I'd say that the sudden 360 on the matter, first claiming the list was on their desks then claiming there is no list, is sus at best.

      This has been going on since I was in high school, they didn't want it out then and they're rallying hard not to release it now. Could be a nothingburger, but their actions are hinting otherwise.

      1. My Esoteric profile image85
        My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        I think it is a 180; he hasn't completed the full circle by calling for the release once again.

        Of course, given his closeness to Epstein, I would not be at all surprised if he is on the list. Now his actions make me suspect it even more.

        Now that he has fired Ms. Comey, who prosecuted both Epstein and Maxwell, if she will start telling all.

        1. Kyler J Falk profile image78
          Kyler J Falkposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

          Saying, "turn 360 degrees and walk away," is an internet meme among the youth. It's a joke to imply they spun around and moonwalked away, thus not taking a matter seriously and/or washing their hands of it.

          1. My Esoteric profile image85
            My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

            Give me a break, I am 77.

    2. IslandBites profile image70
      IslandBitesposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

      I dont know. I think that democrats (maybe for now?) should let this keep playing the way its been going. The Elon/Elon's bros vs the MAGAs fight is funny to see. Let them cannibalize each other.

  2. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 4 weeks ago

    https://hubstatic.com/17556527_f1024.jpg

    1. IslandBites profile image70
      IslandBitesposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

      The variety of comments to that statement is amusing.

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

        Trump and crew have fed these conspiracies for years... Now they've come back to bite. Maga's who voted based on the "exposing the deep state" BS are fuming.   They are calling for Bondi to be fired and are especially furious with Patel and bongino who have been the most vocal about the existence of a list and exposing it... We've got three liars in three key positions par for Trump World

  3. Sharlee01 profile image85
    Sharlee01posted 4 weeks ago

    A few facts would be nice-    Democratic members of the House Judiciary Committee, led by Rep. Jamie Raskin, have launched a pointed political attack against Attorney General Pam Bondi, accusing her of shielding former President Trump by refusing to release documents related to the Jack Smith Mar-a-Lago investigation and alleged Epstein files referencing Trump. In a letter signed by Raskin and 15 other Democrats, they claim that Bondi’s Department of Justice is hiding materials “damaging to President Trump,” specifically citing an alleged Epstein “client list.” However, this narrative ignores key facts and misrepresents Bondi’s statements and the legal process.

    Pam Bondi has directly addressed the “client list” claims, stating on record that no such finalized list exists in DOJ custody implicating Trump or anyone else in the manner the public imagines. She clarified that while some sealed Epstein-related materials did cross her desk earlier this year, these were not part of a complete or substantiated “client list.” In June 2025, she stated, “There is no ‘list’ as people describe it. What exists are thousands of pages of evidence, testimony, contacts, sealed files, some admissible, some not, and nearly all of it tied to an ongoing investigation.” This is not a contradiction, as some critics claim, but a clarification that much of the talk surrounding a so-called “list” is based on media and political speculation, not on verified or prosecutable evidence.

    As for the Jack Smith report, which relates to the classified documents case involving Mar-a-Lago, portions of it have already been unsealed by court order. The remaining sections are sealed not to protect Donald Trump, but due to national security concerns. Jack Smith himself has acknowledged that further disclosures would compromise sources, intelligence methods, or ongoing operations. Attorney General Bondi, contrary to Raskin’s assertion, does not have unilateral authority to declassify or release these documents. Only a court or the special counsel can make that determination.

    It’s also important to note that this campaign by Raskin and others appears politically motivated. Despite their demands, no sworn testimony or verified victim statements have linked Trump to criminal acts involving Epstein. Trump, in fact, banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago years ago following a misconduct allegation. Meanwhile, figures like Bill Clinton, who appears more than two dozen times on Epstein’s flight logs, receive little attention from these same lawmakers. The selective outrage undermines the credibility of their calls for transparency.

    Pam Bondi has not changed her story; rather, the facts never supported the popular media myth of a neatly typed Epstein client list with Trump’s name highlighted. That idea is fiction, fueled by political opportunism in an election year. If Rep. Raskin truly wanted transparency, he would call for the release of all Epstein-related materials, including those referencing Clinton, Gates, and others, not just the ones that could be spun to harm Trump. Until then, this remains a one-sided narrative masquerading as a pursuit of justice.

    Quotes --- “There is no ‘list’ as people describe it. What exists are thousands of pages of evidence—testimony, contacts, sealed files—some admissible, some not, and nearly all of it tied to an ongoing investigation.”
    — Pam Bondi, June 2025, during a press gaggle following closed-door testimony.

    Very pertanant information ----Context Matters:
    Much of the Epstein-related material was under the control of the Southern District of New York and FBI—not Pam Bondi’s office or her personal purview. She did mention earlier in the year that some sealed documents had crossed her desk but clarified that they were not a “client list” nor were they substantiated as criminal evidence.

    MY like Southern District of New York would not have leaked this  --- I mean, Trump is their number one most wanted!   Very amusing, as always, the Democrats never learn from their mistakes.

    1. Kathleen Cochran profile image74
      Kathleen Cochranposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      "A few facts would be nice-"

      They've never made a dent before.

    2. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      What, you don't really think Bondi isn't protecting Trump. Her actions as well as Trump's shout it to the rooftops.

      That was new information you provided. The Director of DOJ doesn't oversee the SDONY? Wow!

  4. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 4 weeks ago

    Currently not understanding why folks wouldn't want everything to be revealed.... The most transparent Administration in history? Laughable....  I'm with the maga  wing nuts on this...Most of us want to know if the guy in the White House is a pedo... I mean we needed to know if Hunter was making a few bucks off of his dad's name but we don't want to know if Trump was the frequent flyer to Epstein Island??? Come on

    1. Kyler J Falk profile image78
      Kyler J Falkposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

      We already know he is self-admittedly an ephebophile.

      Consider they knew about Epstein long before it became completely public knowledge. They tried their hardest to conceal Epstein's endeavors from the public for over a decade, and only once internet sleuths and a whistle blower released some official documents did they even acknowledge the far-reaching influence Epstein had.

      They're gonna bury this in the interest of national security, and in that same vein they are permitted to tell any lie they want.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image72
        Ken Burgessposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

        Most older people still do not get that...

        They still believe the news has some semblance of truth to it...

        They fail to realize the depth of lies and deception they are fed daily...

        From being told processed foods are good for you... that natural animal fats are bad... but processed sugars and unnatural processed seed oils are OK...

        To being told Epstein committed suicide... and now they have conducted an "investigation" and its true, despite the cameras going down, the security being asleep and whatever else...

        And don't forget Kennedy was killed by a lone gunman and you are a conspiracy loon to even suspect that might not be true...

        1. Kyler J Falk profile image78
          Kyler J Falkposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

          I'm certainly not convinced ole boy decided to off himself, or if he's even dead at all. With how deep his influence ran, death by coincidence wouldn't even be able to come close to him.

          I'd think we shipped him off to some blacksite to either be exploited until his untimely demise, or to live out his remaining days under a new identity. Either way, not public business until 60+ years from now when all of his loose ends have been addressed.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image72
            Ken Burgessposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

            Perhaps... I had not considered that...

            His client list is everyone from Bill Gates to Bill Clinton... so no, I don't expect to ever learn "the truth", that is not how it works and you know this better than most.

            But that is the American world we live in... lies and deception...

            Like our SAD diet... our worst in the world health due to that diet... our worst in the world obesity and autism and heart disease, etc. etc.

            The BIGGEST LIE You Were Never Meant to Find Out
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPpec_wVRa4

            How Crisco and Seed Oils Rewired the American Diet—and Heart Health
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJn9oWrxsuc

            Why 70% Of Kids' Food Is Ultra Processed And How It Affects Their Health | Ultra-Processed Life
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRykZDnJbW4

            1. peterstreep profile image82
              peterstreepposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

              The processed food is a great red herring and worthy of it's own threat but it's clear that the Donald is on the list himself. As he's a sexual predator. Owning the Miss Universe Organization, having had an affair with Stormy Daniels, and at least 25 women have publicly accused Trump of sexual harassment, groping, assault, or rape, with allegations dating from the 1970s through the 2010s.
              So the pattern is pretty clear.

            2. tsmog profile image74
              tsmogposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

              hmm . . . Let's do some math . . .

              Demand = 340+ million people

              Supply =

              https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/17564973_f1024.jpg

              plus (Distribution)

              https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/17564974_f1024.jpg

              equals capitalism at its best

              The food industry is worth 1.5 trillion or 5.5% of GDP (2023)

              of course the inner workings of profit/loss statements come into play. Remember Republicans/Conservatives are not to keen on regulations. I am amazed Kennedy Jr. has made any strides at MAHA. Or, has he really?

        2. My Esoteric profile image85
          My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

          That is certainly true of Right-wing media, but poll after poll say most Americans think the mainstream media tries hard to be honest and truthful.

          Historically 55% of Democrats trusted MSM, except during the Trump years when it rose to 70%. Today it is 56%. Independents are less trusting at 31% while only 20% trust Right-Wing media.

      2. My Esoteric profile image85
        My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        It isn't Epstein that is of interest anymore. It is the high and mighty, maybe including Trump, who need to be brought to justice for abusing those children.

  5. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 4 weeks ago

    Bondi won’t file suits against wealthy men trafficking and raping girls…

    But, she’ll sue California over, the possibility of, one little trans girl playing soccer.  She should  ask Jim Jordan for advice on protecting student athletes in locker rooms...

    Yep, our tax dollars hard at work.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

      "Bondi won’t file suits against wealthy men trafficking and raping girls…
      Willow

      Who exactly are you referring to? Because so far, we do know of several individuals who were documented to have flown more frequently on Epstein’s plane. Do I really need to name them? There are also credible reports of some visiting his island—again, should I go down the list?

      Now, as for pressing charges, how can anyone be charged with a crime if no solid evidence exists? AG Pam Bondi has already stated there is no "official list." Yet, it's clear these documents came from the 9th District Court of New York. If anyone should be stepping up, it’s them. And let me ask you this: do you honestly believe that if there were a list and Trump’s name was on it, they’d keep that hidden? They've tried everything under the sun to bring him down. You think they'd suddenly protect him? Come on—LOL. That accusation just doesn’t hold water.

      If anything, it sounds more like some people are trying to protect Bill Clinton. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see the full details released—the tapes, the names, all of it. And who knows? With the left demanding full transparency, maybe we'll actually get it. Let’s hope.

      I  mean Bondi may be playing a game --- "Oh, you forced me to reveal all the garbage, and it now has backfired on Ya all... "

      I certainly don't think we have heard the last of this.

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

        If Bill Clinton or any Democrat or on the list, it would have been released day one with a jubilant ceremony... I don't care who is on the list it needed to be released yesterday.  I am with Maga on this. Bondi has lied . The question was asked to her point blank by Fox news, about "the LIST" NOT THE FILE BUT THE LIST AND SHE SAID IT WAS ON HER DESK.  The woman is a liar.. and not a very good one at that.
        No evidence?? We've got one woman sitting in jail, for what? While 100% of the pedos have gone free.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image85
          Sharlee01posted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

          No, actually, I don't think they would have shared anything about Bill Clinton. This could be why we now see no list, that no list was handed to Bondi.  Yes, she said the file was on her desk, and made mention in the same paragraph that she had not looked at it yet. The "woman sitting in jail", I have not heard her accuse Trump of anything.  She has an attorney; I would think if he had anything to share on her behalf, he would. Guess you omitted that part. Your comments have become hyperbolic. I will step away --- out of decency, I hope others will too. Again, in my view, I find it, for lack of a better word, disgusting to cast a shadow of slander without evidence.

          1. Willowarbor profile image60
            Willowarborposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

            "she said the file was on her desk,"

            No.  She is on tape responding to a direct question about THE LIST not the file and she clearly said it was on her desk....she's a liar.   Is she really that stupid that she didn't understand the reporter said 'the list" ..really, as an attorney???

            1. Sharlee01 profile image85
              Sharlee01posted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

              In her initial statement during the Fox interview, she said the file was on her desk but that she hadn’t reviewed it yet, that’s the statement I’m referring to. The memo says there was no list in the file. I have no way of confirming what is or isn’t in those files, and neither do you. Call her whatever you like, I’m sure plenty of people who think like you are upset. But I don’t make judgments based on conjecture, as you do. And I certainly don’t resort to calling someone a liar without legitimate cause.

              I can't respect that attitude.

              1. Willowarbor profile image60
                Willowarborposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

                She never said file and either did the reporter

                1. Sharlee01 profile image85
                  Sharlee01posted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

                  I did not quote Bondi. If I quote a person, I use quotation marks and add a name at the end of a quote.

                  It does appear that a full official transcript for Pam Bondi’s February 21, 2025 America Reports interview has not been published publicly. However, based on the Fox News article and related accounts, here’s a verbatim excerpt capturing the full context where Bondi acknowledges she hadn’t yet reviewed the materials:

                  John Roberts (host) asked if the Justice Department would release a “list of Epstein’s clients.” Roberts

                  Pam Bondi replied:

                  “It’s sitting on my desk right now to review. That’s been a directive by President Trump. I’m reviewing that. … And I’m reviewing the JFK and MLK files, which he declassified.” AG Bondi

                  When pressed further—“When asked if she had ‘seen anything,’ Bondi responded:

                  “Not yet.” AG Bondi

                  This clarifies that while Bondi confirmed she had information on her desk, she explicitly stated she had not yet reviewed the information.

                  1. My Esoteric profile image85
                    My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                    And you believe her?!

              2. Kathleen Cochran profile image74
                Kathleen Cochranposted 11 days agoin reply to this

                "But I don’t make judgments based on conjecture, as you do."

                You have no way of knowing how anyone on this site makes judgments any more than any of us can know how you make yours.

                1. Sharlee01 profile image85
                  Sharlee01posted 11 days agoin reply to this

                  I feel like I’ve come to know many people on this forum over the years through long conversations and back-and-forths. I believe most would agree that I can be judgmental at times. In this particular case, my comment came after a lengthy discussion, and its context explains why I said it. I stand by my sentiment, people shouldn’t make judgments based on conjecture.

                  1. Kathleen Cochran profile image74
                    Kathleen Cochranposted 10 days agoin reply to this

                    "I believe most would agree that I can be judgmental at times."

                    We all are.

                    Some are better at hiding it.

  6. IslandBites profile image70
    IslandBitesposted 4 weeks ago

    What list? Trump WH says there's no list. Ha!

    1. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      Even if there were no "list", the names that might comprise one are in the thousands of pages of documentation DOJ has. Yes, MAGA has it right on this one.

  7. IslandBites profile image70
    IslandBitesposted 4 weeks ago

    "ONE OF THE THINGS YOU ALLUDED TO IN THIS IS SOMETHING DONALD TRUMP HAS TALKED ABOUT. DOJ MAY BE RELEASING A LIST OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN'S CLIENTS?
    WILL THAT REALLY HAPPEN?"

    "IT IS SITTING ON MY DESK RIGHT NOW TO REVIEW. THAT HAS BEEN A DIRECTIVE BY PRESIDENT TRUMP."

    smile

    1. Willowarbor profile image60
      Willowarborposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

      Exactly, plain as day. They were talking about the list.  No doubt about it, the woman is a liar

    2. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      Quate - Unquote.

  8. tsmog profile image74
    tsmogposted 4 weeks ago

    From the right wing Daily Caller arrives . . .

    Dershowitz Claims He Saw Full Epstein Client List While Defending Himself In Giuffre Case published by the Daily Caller (July 10, 2025)
    https://dailycaller.com/2025/07/10/alan … a-giuffre/

    "Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz claimed he’s seen Jeffrey Epstein’s full client list — but said confidentiality rules prevent him from naming names in a March 19 interview.

    The resurfaced clip from “The Sean Spicer Show” has fueled new scrutiny of Epstein’s alleged connections, even as newly released FBI and Justice Department memos say no list exists and rule out foul play in his 2019 death.

    “But I’m bound by confidentiality — from a judge and cases — and I can’t disclose what I know,” Dershowitz said. “Hand to God, I know the names of the people whose files are being suppressed in order to protect them, and that’s wrong.”

    Dershowitz alleged that key documents in the Epstein case are being “deliberately, willfully suppressed” to protect certain individuals. He claimed to know both the names and the officials suppressing the information."

    1. Willowarbor profile image60
      Willowarborposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

      Wow.  So who are we to believe, Dershowitz  or Bondi?   more fuel for maga's fire, they love Dershowitz .

      1. tsmog profile image74
        tsmogposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

        Being an old guy maybe I am not clear. What is a contact list?

        Attorney General Pamela Bondi Releases First Phase of Declassified Epstein Files Office of Public Affairs Department of Justice (Feb 27, 2025)
        https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney … tein-files

        Links to released documents
        . . .

        C. Contact Book_Redacted
        https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1391321/dl?inline

    2. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      How interesting!!

  9. tsmog profile image74
    tsmogposted 4 weeks ago

    A little off topic, but interesting.


    Listen To The Jeffrey Epstein Tapes: ‘I Was Donald
    Trump’s Closest Friend’

    Explosive tapes recorded by author Michael Wolff show Epstein
    claiming Trump liked to “f---” his friends’ wives and first slept with
    Melania on the “Lolita Express."

    The Daily Beast / Hugh Doughterty Posted by the House of Representatives
    https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU08 … 006-U6.pdf

    "Jeffrey Epstein described himself as Donald Trump’s “closest friend” and claimed intimate
    knowledge of his proclivity for sex, including cuckolding his best friends, according to
    recordings obtained exclusively by the Daily Beast.

    The convicted pedophile even boasted of his closeness to Trump and his now-wife Melania
    by claiming, “the first time he slept with her was on my plane,” which was dubbed the Lolita
    Express.

    Epstein spoke at length about Trump with the author Michael Wolff in August 2017, two
    years before being found dead in his jail cell. Wolff was researching his bombshell bestseller Fire and Fury at the time.

    The recordings cast more light on Trump’s long relationship with Epstein, and will add to
    debate over the character of the Republican candidate, especially his attitudes and conduct
    toward women, just days before the election.

    The tapes tell Epstein’s version of the relationship between two former friends and their very different paths: One toward infamy, prison and suicide; the other toward power, the Oval Office and his own criminal conviction for paying hush money to a porn star.

    Trump’s camp referred to the tapes’ release as “false smears” and “election interference.”

  10. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 4 weeks ago

    Dershowitz...

    https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1943409808314454317

    The list should be revealed...

  11. tsmog profile image74
    tsmogposted 4 weeks ago

    From Sky News Australia

    Lawyer confirms ‘for a fact’ Epstein list exists after Pami Bondi blasted for humiliating cover-up YouTube video (6:59 min) Image is a live link to video

    https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/17560244_f520.jpg

    Interesting!

  12. IslandBites profile image70
    IslandBitesposted 4 weeks ago

    When he said this, it was obvious; it was not going to be made public.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZJorAVgHy7Y

  13. abwilliams profile image81
    abwilliamsposted 4 weeks ago

    Somewhere in the comments, it was suggested that any incriminating evidence against Clinton, would have been released by now. Can we not say the same about Trump?  Not sure what the strategy is here, but will just say this...
    Careful what you wish for.

    1. Ken Burgess profile image72
      Ken Burgessposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

      Its just the game of politics...

      Making the accusation is all that matters...

      The media will run with it, guilty until proven guilty... if proven innocent they will just stop reporting on it and move on to the next accusation.

      Remember the Russian collusion... the absolute verified proof CNN had...

      1. My Esoteric profile image85
        My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        The Media is just reporting on MAGA.

    2. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      No, we can't. Not until honest people who are not beholden to Trump come in possession of the files (assuming Bondi doesn't have them destroyed first)

  14. IslandBites profile image70
    IslandBitesposted 3 weeks ago

    All over the place.

    “What’s going on with my ‘boys’ and, in some cases, ‘gals?’” Trump wrote Saturday evening. “They are all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is doing a FANTASTIC JOB!”

    “One year ago our Country was DEAD, now it’s the 'HOTTEST' Country anywhere in the World,” Trump wrote Saturday on Truth Social. “Let’s keep it that way, and not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about.”

    “I don’t understand it, why they would be so interested,” Trump said Tuesday. “He’s been dead for a long time. He was never a big factor in terms of life. I don’t understand what the interest and what the fascination is. I really don’t. And the credible information has been given.”

    “For years, it’s Epstein, over and over again. Why are we giving publicity to Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, [former FBI director James] Comey, [former CIA director John] Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden administration,” Trump posted on Truth Social on Saturday night blaming the files on Democrats.

    "It’s pretty boring stuff. It’s sordid, but it’s boring, and I don’t understand why it keeps going," Trump told reporters Tuesday evening.

    “Some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net, and so they try and do the Democrats’ work,” Trump said.



    ... Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this “bullshit,” hook, line, and sinker. They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years. I have had more success in 6 months than perhaps any President in our Country’s history, and all these people want to talk about, with strong prodding by the Fake News and the success starved Dems, is the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax. Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore! Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!


    What a meltdown. LOL

    1. tsmog profile image74
      tsmogposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      Notice the date as well as who wrote this.

      https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/17567151_f1024.jpg

      1. IslandBites profile image70
        IslandBitesposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        Another stupid, foolish, weakling past supporter? Ha!

  15. IslandBites profile image70
    IslandBitesposted 3 weeks ago

    Are these some of the weaklings past supporters that Trump dont want anymore?

    Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., pushed for more Epstein documents to be released, in direct defiance of Trump. Johnson also said that Bondi “needs to come forward and explain” her contradictions on the issue, and that former Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell, who is currently in federal prison, should testify before Congress.

    Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., said he found it "a little difficult to believe, the idea that the DOJ and the FBI who prosecuted cases relating to this don't have any idea who Epstein's clients were."

    "My view is make public, everything you can make public..."

    Bannon said he is advocating for the Trump administration to appoint a special counsel to handle the matter.

    “I will not rest until we go full Jan. 6 committee on the Epstein Files. Every single client involved should have an FBI agent at their door going after them the same way they went after the Jan. 6ers,” Jack Posobiec, a vocal Trump supporter, told the conference Saturday afternoon. “That’s how we should go after everyone on the Epstein client list.

    Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) called for a special counsel to be appointed.

    Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.) was asked by CNN if he trusts the DOJ.

    “I don’t,” he replied.

    Marjorie Taylor Greene have called for more transparency on the Epstein case.
    Conservative "MAGA" voices like Tucker Carlson and Laura Loomer have also been critical of the Justice Department's handling of the case.

    1. Kyler J Falk profile image78
      Kyler J Falkposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      This is most certainly a bipartisan issue for the majority. If there's nothing, release it. If releasing it comes at the cost of throwing the world into turmoil, release it. If it causes protests, riots, general turmoil in the USA, release it.

      Barring global annihilation as a consequence, release it. 

      Alas, they'll tailor something suitable to their needs and release that if anything at all.

      1. IslandBites profile image70
        IslandBitesposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        Alas, they'll tailor something suitable to their needs and release that if anything at all.

        I agree. And probably let someone go. Im not sure if that's going to be enough for some MAGA folks, though.

        1. IslandBites profile image70
          IslandBitesposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

          Trump said he has directed Attorney General Pam Bondi to “produce any and all pertinent Grand Jury testimony” related to Epstein, “subject to Court approval.”

          “Based on the ridiculous amount of publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein, I have asked Attorney General Pam Bondi to produce any and all pertinent Grand Jury testimony, subject to Court approval. This SCAM, perpetuated by the Democrats, should end, right now!”

          MAGA, are you listening? Stop asking, that's an order! lol

          Btw,

          Trump’s announcement came hours after the Wall Street Journal published a report detailing a birthday letter sent to Jeffrey Epstein in 2003 bearing Trump’s name.

          The drawing, depicting a woman’s breasts and a “Donald” signature in the place of pubic hair, surrounded several lines of typewritten text, according to the newspaper, which reviewed the letter. It concluded with the line: “Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.”

          1. My Esoteric profile image85
            My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

            Sounds like something The Donald would do.

  16. IslandBites profile image70
    IslandBitesposted 3 weeks ago

    Remember?

    https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims3/default/strip/false/crop/8256x5504+0+0/resize/900/quality/85/format/webp/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Faf%2Fa9%2F48930cb94ce280edeb83cb095e1d%2Fgettyimages-2201631023.jpg
    https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/VUeo6RjtRO7AAAnxdezj6g--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xNTk4O2NmPXdlYnA-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/thedailybeast.com/012dde98436c4eb1ead56f8f71df5e2a

    "The Most Transparent Administration in History."

    Now:

    " Yes I got a binder but we were misled about what was in it... This isn’t going away and we won’t be letting this go. All it did was make us get much louder."


    Another stupid, foolish, weakling past supporter?

  17. Readmikenow profile image83
    Readmikenowposted 3 weeks ago

    Jeffery Epstein died on August 10, 2019.

    Joe Biden was president until 2024.

    Where were democrats on Jeffery Epstein during the biden presidency?

    They were crickets on the subject.

    The ONLY reason democrats care about this issue right now is that fact that Donald Trump is president.

    Should he not be president, the democrats would not care at all about anything to do with Jeffery Epstein.

    Is anyone familiar with the word "hypocrisy?"

    1. IslandBites profile image70
      IslandBitesposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      That's probably true.

      The question is, do you still care now? Are you a (in Trump words) "another stupid, foolish, weakling past supporter"? Or, to use your own analysis of the situation, a new "hypocrite" that got the (Trump) memo?

      Or maybe you never cared?

      Honestly, trying to understand MAGA. A lot of conflicting messaging online.

    2. peterstreep profile image82
      peterstreepposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      If there where democrats on the list Trump would have maximized the scandal 100%. But he can't because he is on the list himself.

      Trump saying: "I grab them by the pus$$"
      tells enough about his attitude towards women.

      He owned the Miss Universe Organization, walking in the ladies dressing rooms.
      Buying the plane that Epstein owned. (surely he has "good" memories about the times he flew together with Epstein and the girls on this plane - or is it buying evidence of things that has happened on the plane?)

      Trump saying about his own daughter:  “I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her.”

      Since the 1970s, at least 25 women have publicly accused Donald Trump of rape, kissing and groping without consent; looking under women's skirts....

      He is on the top of the list.

      1. My Esoteric profile image85
        My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        Makes sense to me and I'll add a jury finding to liable (guilty) for Sexual Abuse against E. Jean Carroll.

        Then there is this, which adds much weight to your "He is on the top of the list" opinion.

        “Katie Johnson” (anonymous alias)

        Alleged Trump raped her at age 13 at Epstein parties, suing both Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. Filed in 2016; dismissed by a federal judge for failing to state a valid legal claim (she filed it without a lawyer and it was missing critical information as well a under a pseudonym). She later dropped her efforts because of verified threats and mental suffering.

        Alva Johnson

        Former Trump campaign staffer who claimed Trump forcibly kissed her (at least he didn't 'grab' her) at a rally in 2016 and alleged racial pay discrimination. She filed a suit in 2019. The judge dismissed it because (unlike in Spain) forcible kissing does not rise to the level of battery even though it was "boorish and offensive". She appealed but later dropped it

      2. IslandBites profile image70
        IslandBitesposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        “I’ve known Paris Hilton from the time she’s 12. Her parents are friends of mine and the first time I saw her she walked into a room and I said, ‘Who the hell is that?’” - DJT

        Yuck!

        At one point in the interview, Trump spoke about his daughter Tiffany, who was one year old at the time.
        "Donald, what does Tiffany have of yours and what does Tiffany have of Marla?"

        “I think that she’s got a lot of Marla,” Trump said of Tiffany, referring to her mother, Marla Maples. “She’s really a beautiful baby, and she’s got Marla’s legs. We don’t know whether she’s got this part yet, but time will tell,” Trump said, gesturing to his chest as if to speculate about his daughter’s breasts."

        Ugh!

        Also, remember the escalator girl?

        Sick!

        1. My Esoteric profile image85
          My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

          But not surprising.

        2. peterstreep profile image82
          peterstreepposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

          Yes and the list goes on. It's crystal clear Donald Trump is a sexual predator and had a very good understanding with Epstein. Two of a pair...

  18. IslandBites profile image70
    IslandBitesposted 3 weeks ago

    “I don’t understand it, why they would be so interested?” Trump said of repeated calls from MAGA-aligned activists and voters for the federal government to release files related to Epstein’s case. “He’s dead for a long time. He was never a big factor in terms of life. I don’t understand what the interest or what the fascination is.”

    “I don’t understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody. It’s pretty boring stuff,” Trump told reporters on the tarmac at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland earlier this week. 

    “I don’t understand why it keeps going,” he added.

    I guess he is in the "hypocrisy" camp too.

    Btw,


    “I have to disagree with the president. I don’t think human trafficking of young teenage girls being exploited by billionaires on a private island is boring. I think it’s despicable, and I believe that anybody who had anything to do with it or knowledge of it should be held accountable,” Tillis said in an interview with “Good Morning BT with Bo Thompson & Beth Troutman,” a daily talk radio show based in Charlotte, North Carolina.

    Yikes.

    1. Readmikenow profile image83
      Readmikenowposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      “I have to disagree with the president. I don’t think human trafficking of young teenage girls being exploited by billionaires on a private island is boring. I think it’s despicable, and I believe that anybody who had anything to do with it or knowledge of it should be held accountable,”

      Unfortunately this only matters when there is a Republican president.  Nobody cares when a democrat holds the office.

  19. IslandBites profile image70
    IslandBitesposted 3 weeks ago

    Tech billionaire Elon Musk has continued to fuel public intrigue surrounding convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, as the federal government faces growing pressure to release additional information from the criminal case against the late financier.

    Musk first planted the seeds of the latest Epstein controversy during his feud with President Trump last month, when the Tesla CEO alleged Trump was named in the Epstein files and said, “That is the real reason they have not been made public” — a claim the White House has flatly rejected.

    But as the calls have grown louder for greater transparency on Epstein’s files, from both lawmakers and the public, Musk has continued to use his social media platform to encourage their questions about the scope of the government’s authority and the details of what documents likely have been preserved.

    He launched a series of questions at his artificial intelligence chatbot, Grok, late Wednesday and early Thursday morning.


    Uh-oh. Not all of them are falling in line this time.

  20. tsmog profile image74
    tsmogposted 3 weeks ago

    Spotted this online while wondered if AI generated.

    https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/ … e=687F1F8D

    The link goes to a letter Bondi sent to Patel back in February. If you open the link there is opportunity to enlarge the letter for reading clarity. The image of the letter follows next. You can also right click that image and open in new tab for larger image.

    https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/17567473_f1024.jpg

  21. tsmog profile image74
    tsmogposted 3 weeks ago

    Getting down to the nitty gritty of how it started and where it went through July 15, 2025 with a timeline of events.

    How the Jeffrey Epstein row plunged Maga world into turmoil – a timeline published by The Guardian. (July 16, 2025)
    Saga has pitted Trump against his base, with the president pleading with supporters to ‘not waste time’ on Epstein
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … ga-turmoil

    The opening paragraphs . . .

    "The Department of Justice’s announcement that it did not have a list of Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged clients, and that the convicted sex offender was not murdered, has plunged the rightwing world into turmoil.

    Conservative commentators and media figures, some of whom spent years pushing conspiracy theories about Epstein’s death, have accused the government of covering up the hedge fund manager’s crimes, with calls growing for Pam Bondi, the attorney general, to resign.

    The saga has pitted Donald Trump, who was friends with Epstein for many years before later disowning the financier, against his base, with the president pleading over the weekend for his supporters to “not waste time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein”.

    This is how we got here."

    . . . . and, then the timeline beginning with Epstein being charged July 6, 2019. Take a peek if curious.

  22. My Esoteric profile image85
    My Esotericposted 3 weeks ago

    Again WHY didn't Trump direct Bondi to release all the files, the ones that might contain his name, rather than grand jury testimony which only concern Epstein himself?  It does make one wonder as Trump tries to navigate the MAGA attack on him.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/18/politics … -testimony

  23. IslandBites profile image70
    IslandBitesposted 3 weeks ago

    Durbin: FBI agents were told to ‘flag’ Epstein records that mentioned Trump

    Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, says he has received information that Attorney General Pam Bondi “pressured” about 1,000 FBI personnel to comb through tens of thousands of pages of documents related to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and flag any mention of President Trump.

    Durbin made the explosive allegation in letters he sent Friday to Bondi, FBI Director Kash Patel and Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino seeking more information about the administration’s handling of files related to Epstein and asking why senior officials were allegedly focused on looking for documents connecting Trump to Epstein.

    Citing “information my office received,” Durbin said Bondi “pressured the FBI to put approximately 1,000 personnel in its Information Management Division” on 24-hour shifts to review about 100,000 Epstein-related records as part of a broader effort to release documents publicly by what Durbin called “an arbitrarily short deadline.”

    Durbin says his office was told FBI personnel were “instructed to ‘flag’ any records in which President Trump was mentioned.”


    Interesting. We'll see if true and someone comes forward.

    1. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      Someone always does; although for those poor girls, now women, some committing suicide, it is a few decades too late.

  24. Kathleen Cochran profile image74
    Kathleen Cochranposted 3 weeks ago

    This issue has removed any remaining doubt that MAGAs will excuse or defend anything.

    Make America Good Again - Corey Booker 2028

    1. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      I'd vote for him.

  25. My Esoteric profile image85
    My Esotericposted 3 weeks ago

    UPDATE

    Linked is a CNN analysis of what we know so far about the Trump - Epstein Saga.

    Included are statements, some of them lies, like this:

    “This is not me. This is a fake thing. It’s a fake Wall Street Journal story,” Trump told the Journal in an interview earlier this week. “I never wrote a picture in my life. I don’t draw pictures of women.”

    Trump added in a social media post after the story published: “These are not my words, not the way I talk. Also, I don’t draw pictures.”


    The bolded comments are verifiable lies.

    This is another lie: In January 2024, he said on social media: “I was never on Epstein’s Plane …” In fact, flight logs had already shown Trump flew on it seven times in the 1990s.

    Of interest - The idea that Trump would submit a letter for Epstein’s birthday album isn’t that surprising, given this was when the two of them were seemingly on better terms (2003) and that dozens of other letters were reportedly solicited. The idea that Trump would be lewd in that letter also tracks, given his past. (See: The “Access Hollywood” tape.)

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/19/politics … s-analysis

  26. Kathleen Cochran profile image74
    Kathleen Cochranposted 3 weeks ago

    "Despite the clamor surrounding Epstein from within the president’s political base and beyond, there is no indication so far that this is the scandal that will sink Trump any more than the “Access Hollywood” tape of 2016, or being found guilty in a criminal trial last year over hush money payments to a porn star. Trump won presidential elections after both."

    So grateful I am not numbered among them.

  27. tsmog profile image74
    tsmogposted 2 weeks ago

    Candace Owens a conservative commentator presents a discussion of the Epstein recent phenomena for the inquiring minds.

    The Epstein Files: The Midas Touch | Ep 1 a YouTube 58 min video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX2h-yTgLis

    The origins of Jeffrey Epstein and his rise to affluence. Welcome back to the Epstein files.
    00:00 - Start.
    00:44 - Yes, we are still talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
    03:50 - The timeline of Jeffrey Epstein.
    30:02 - Who is Trump protecting?
    48:37 - Comments.

    The Epstein Files: The House Of Maxwell | Ep 2 a YouTube 44 min video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TZy3KRLh3M

    The Epstein Files series continues with a deeper look into the Maxwell family and Ghislaine's mother, Elisabeth Maxwell. Also, Trump releases the MLK files and drama over Epstein continues to heat up in D.C. 

    00:00 - Start.
    01:09 - Elie Wiesel & Nikolaus Grüner.
    12:33 - The Elisabeth Maxwell connection.
    17:59 - Elisabeth Maxwell after Robert's death.
    28:27 - Xavier Poussard is sued by Brigitte Macron.
    32:30 - Deputy AG to meet with Ghislaine & MLK files released.
    37:06 - Comments.

  28. Kathleen Cochran profile image74
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 weeks ago

    Today Trump accused President Obama of treason.

    Oooooo-Shiny Thing!

    1. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Anything to divert MAUGA's attention away from Epstein.

  29. Credence2 profile image80
    Credence2posted 2 weeks ago

    Tell Trump and MAGA that diversion and distraction wont save them this time. Because Trump is so desperate to keeping the Epstein files closed, that is all the more reason that they need to be opened.

    I don’t blame Trump for being an international playboy and such, with all his money and his character I could not have expected less.

    But, if he is caught having been  involved with trafficking and abusing minor girls, I will see him to the gallows.

    1. GA Anderson profile image85
      GA Andersonposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      An innocent question concerning the thought/claim that Pres. Trump is in 'the' files.

      If he is, wouldn't the Democrats have pushed to have them released in the years they were litigating against Trump?

      Seems logical to me.

      GA

      1. My Esoteric profile image85
        My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        How about these reasons:

        Democrats didn’t need Epstein material to attack Trump. They had:

        - Jan 6th insurrection

        - Classified document mishandling

        - Hush money payments

        - Multiple impeachments

        - Epstein died in custody in 2019.

        - Many files remain sealed, under court protection, or are not fully available to the public or Congress.

        - Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial focused on a narrow set of charges and did not fully explore Epstein’s client list.

        - So there’s limited verified documentation to act on—and doing so speculatively is politically risky. (Which, of course, doesn't stop MAUGA and the Republicans demanding it.)

        - Publicly amplifying unproven accusations risks defamation suits or legal retaliation.

        - Democrats in Congress or campaigns generally avoid weaponizing unverified claims, especially in the post-McCarthy era of “guilt by association.” which fits in with the Democrats refusal to weaponize any part of gov't.

        QUESTIONS I do have are:

        1 What was Trump’s real relationship with Jeffrey Epstein?

        ------  Publicly, Trump said in 2002:

        “He’s a lot of fun to be with... It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

        ------- Privately, what connections did Trump have to:

        ------------ Epstein’s properties (Palm Beach, Manhattan)?

        -----------  Flight logs (Was he on the plane? If so, when and where)?

        -----------  Mutual social events involving underage girls?

        Why it matters: It helps clarify if Trump had only casual ties or deeper involvement in Epstein’s social/sexual exploitation network.

        2. Why did Alexander Acosta approve Epstein’s 2007 non-prosecution agreement (NPA)?

        Especially given the horrendous nature of the crimes and since we now know he had evidence to go after Epstein and Maxwell and possibly many  others

        Acosta, as U.S. Attorney in Miami, approved a deal that:

        -------------  Let Epstein avoid federal charges!!!!!

        -------------  Sealed the deal from public view

        -------------  Did not notify victims (a violation of the Crime Victims’ Rights Act)

        Key Questions:

        - Did Acosta act alone, or under pressure?

        - Was Trump aware of the investigation or was he interviewed given how close he was to Epstein until 2005

        - Who intervened in the case behind the scenes—political allies, powerful donors, or associates of Epstein?

        Why it matters: This was a pivotal moment of elite protection—understanding it could reveal systemic corruption.

        3. What were the ties between Pam Bondi and Trump—and did they affect her office's scrutiny of Epstein?

        Pam Bondi, former Florida Attorney General:

        ------------  Declined to aggressively pursue Epstein after his release.

        ------------  Received $25,000 donation from Trump’s foundation around the time her office considered investigating Trump University.

        Questions to ask:

        -----  Did Bondi or her office receive any political or financial pressure to lay off Trump-related scandals or Epstein?

        -----  Were campaign donations from Trump a quid pro quo like with Stormy Daniels?

        Why it matters: It helps connect the dots between money, political loyalty, and prosecutorial discretion.

        4. Was Trump aware of Epstein’s crimes before his 2007 deal—and if so, what did he do?

        Did Trump:

        ---------  Witness any misconduct?

        ---------  Report anything to authorities?

        ---------  Or, did he distance himself only after Epstein’s arrest became public?

        --------- Why did Trump make Acosta Transportation Secretary?

        Why it matters: It speaks to Trump’s moral character, potential culpability, and pattern of behavior toward sexual misconduct.

        5. Did any of these figures (Trump, Bondi, Acosta) impede federal or state investigations into Epstein’s network?

        This includes:

        ----- Prosecutors who buried leads

        ----  Political operatives who steered attention away (such as what Trump and his minions are doing today)

        ----- Friendly media spin or suppression of stories

        Why it matters: Understanding obstruction or cover-up efforts can reveal how elite networks protect themselves.

        6. Were there other prominent men (besides Trump and Clinton) who influenced Epstein’s protection?

        This widens the scope to:

        --- Alan Dershowitz

        --- Les Wexner

        --- Prince Andrew

        --- Donald Trump

        It raises: Were multiple factions protecting Epstein for their own reasons?

        Why it matters: It shows whether Trump was one actor in a broader conspiracy—or a beneficiary of it.

        Follow the Money: Who financed Epstein’s lifestyle after he left jail?

        --- Did Trump, Bondi, or anyone close benefit financially or politically from Epstein's silence or downfall?

        1. wilderness profile image77
          wildernessposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          From all of this it very much sounds like you want another witch hunt over Trump.  You have nothing at all to hold over his head, you have zero reason to think there is something in the Epstein files (except your own morbid imagination)...so you want another witch hunt.  Again.  And if, as happened in the past, nothing comes of it, well then it just means you need to try a different source for the dirt that you just know (no evidence needed) is there!

          1. Sharlee01 profile image85
            Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            They’re gasping for air. The Democrats are finished—period. They created this mess, and now there’s no way out of the swamp they built. The files everyone’s demanding will likely be the final nail in their coffin. They seem to never learn how very foolish they appear to the general public.

            1. Kathleen Cochran profile image74
              Kathleen Cochranposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              "They seem to never learn how very foolish they appear to the general public."

              From a MAGA? Seriously?

          2. Kathleen Cochran profile image74
            Kathleen Cochranposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            "You have nothing at all to hold over his head"

            More than 30 felony convictions = not nothing.

            1. My Esoteric profile image85
              My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              And then the finding that he is a sexual predator, a defamer, and a bank fraudster.

              Trump is also facing multiple federal and state criminal charges (e.g., election interference, classified documents) that must wait until he is out of office.

              It could happen, but probably won't, that Trump is reindicted for his role in the Jan 6th insurrection and the misuse of sensitive documents once he leaves office.

          3. My Esoteric profile image85
            My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            Trump's actions simply scream that there is something in there he does not want to get out.

            I am not trying for a different source of dirt. I hadn't thought much about it until your MAUGA friends started yelling at the top of their lungs for Full Disclosure and Trump started dodging.

        2. GA Anderson profile image85
          GA Andersonposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          It was a conceptual question. Surely you're not trying to convince me the Democrats wouldn't do it if they could, right?

          GA

          1. Credence2 profile image80
            Credence2posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            The point, GA, is that they didn’t do it, Trump and the Republicans have.

            1. GA Anderson profile image85
              GA Andersonposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              The point was why didn't they do it? Is the answer because they couldn't or because they wouldn't?

              GA

          2. My Esoteric profile image85
            My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            The proof is in the pudding.

            1. GA Anderson profile image85
              GA Andersonposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              I've held onto this one for a long time. Almost Sheldon-like:

              No, the correct usage would be "...in the taste of the pudding..." Your phrasing has become a disappointing modernity: a lazy shorthand, accepted merely for the convenient accreditation of group laziness.

              GA  ;-o

              1. Ken Burgess profile image72
                Ken Burgessposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                That does make more sense...

                Nice to see you injecting yourself on the important issues wink

                1. GA Anderson profile image85
                  GA Andersonposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Yep, avoiding assumptions in authoritative pronouncements is important. I spotted this one from the fence and felt a duty to help.

                  GA

      2. Credence2 profile image80
        Credence2posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        I can’t claim to offer you an answer. The fact is that at the beginning of his Administration, Trump promised full disclosure and candor regarding the Epstein files, now he does not want it? What has changed? If he is innocent why be obstinate regarding the release of the information? What does he have to hide? Trump has always only been interested in saving his own hide, so I bet that he is implicated in some way that would have grave ramifications for him politically if all the contents of Epstein were made public.

        1. GA Anderson profile image85
          GA Andersonposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          That sounds as if you don't know why the Democrats didn't release the Epstein files, and you also don't know why Pres. Trump is not releasing them either.

          Is that right? (The original question was "innocent" because I also don't know — but I'm not making the claims you are either)

          GA

      3. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        Justice Department Told Trump in May That His Name Is Among Many in the Epstein Files...

        Exclusive | Justice Department Told Trump in May That His Name Is Among Many in the Epstein Files - WSJ https://share.google/PR8OVdO90seA4TDgn

        Which means he would have been lying in the following...

        https://x.com/Acyn/status/1945175410066776332

        1. Readmikenow profile image83
          Readmikenowposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          Gee, quoting an unnamed source.  It legal terms it is known as hearsay.

          Why am I not surprised?

          I'm not surprised an unnamed source would be used or that the left would go crazy with it.

          Are facts an unknown concept on the left?

          1. Willowarbor profile image60
            Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            WSJ it's not exactly a leftist source and they are standing behind their reporting... I suppose this Administration can sue for libel? Don't think they will though... if I were president and everyone was calling me a pedophile, I'd release every last page to prove I wasn't... Yet we have him trying to distract with the tired old favorites, Obama, Hillary.  It's laughable.

            1. Readmikenow profile image83
              Readmikenowposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              You have nothing but hearsay from an unnamed source and your imagination.

              Seems to be enough to keep the interest of the left.

              1. Willowarbor profile image60
                Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                The push to release all of these records has been the baby of the maga base for years....LOL. the shining stars of the magaverse are the ones who have fueled this fire and kept it going.   it is Maga who is going to ultimately topple Humpty Dumpty.  He stoked the fires of conspiracy and now he is about to be consumed by those flames and I am absolutely here for it.

              2. My Esoteric profile image85
                My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                We aren't in a court of law, are we.  What statistics do you have that show most of the WSJ's sources are liars? Since you have none and they have a great reputation for honesty, they are believable.

            2. Sharlee01 profile image85
              Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              In response to a Wall Street Journal article that reported Trump's name appeared in a birthday album for Jeffrey Epstein, former President Trump filed a defamation lawsuit against the publication. The lawsuit alleges that the reporting was “false and defamatory,” damaging his reputation. The Wall Street Journal, while widely regarded as a reputable source, based much of its reporting on unnamed “senior officials,” which can affect perceptions of objectivity.

              The article described the mentions of Trump’s name as “unverified hearsay” and emphasized that being named “did not imply misconduct,” language that may influence how seriously readers view the allegations. Although the article included statements from both the Department of Justice and Trump’s representatives, it lacked direct quotes from other key figures, limiting the depth of insight into the context.

          2. My Esoteric profile image85
            My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            No, only on the Right.

        2. GA Anderson profile image85
          GA Andersonposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          If his name is there... the question compounds. If the Democrats knew Trump's name was on 'the list,' it must be an 'explainable' listing, or the Democrats would have released it. As I see it.

          GA

          1. Willowarbor profile image60
            Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            Johnson is literally cutting the session short and sending reps to Summer recess early, all in order to avoid a vote on the Epstein files... House GOP are the only ones blocking the Dems attempts at getting these files released... If there's nothing to fear, put out the information. 

            Thom Tillis sums it up nicely..

            "The promise to release the files during the campaign was either overplayed and we got a nothing burger if the files get released, or it's something really disturbing and that's actually an even more compelling reason to release it," Tillis said.

        3. My Esoteric profile image85
          My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          How many more Trump lies will it take to open the eyes of the Faithful.

          Reporter: Did Bondi tell you your name appeared in the Epstein files?

          Trump: No.. I would say these files were made up by Comey and Obama, made up by the Biden...

          No wonder MAUGA keeps asking for the files - Trump keeps lying about them.

    2. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Cred,  My two cents,   If Donald Trump's name appeared in Jeffrey Epstein's sealed grand jury transcripts or related files in a significant way, it seems logical that the Southern District of New York (SDNY), which had jurisdiction over Epstein, would have acted on it much earlier, especially during the high-stakes 2020 election or during the lead-up to the 2024 race. It lends to common sense, Trump's name was not associated with the file.

      I think Trump is using a backdoor approach to get the Epstein files released. Then he’ll likely come out the other end saying something like, “I didn’t want to release them, but the American people demanded transparency, and I had no choice.” It’s a familiar tactic he’s used before: “I didn’t want to do it, but I was forced into it.” I have a strong feeling these files will be explosive, full of scandal, and capable of destroying some very powerful reputations.

      I wouldn’t be so quick to call for the gallows, at least not until we see exactly who may have abused those young girls.

      It’s become clear in the last few days that Trump is out for retribution—and these documents might take down multiple birds with one stone.

      1. Credence2 profile image80
        Credence2posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        I hear you, Sharlee, why not just open the files in total and let the chips fall where they may? I don’t care who gets “outed” as a result. Any individual’s involvement is not acceptable regardless of party association or affiliation. Why protect powerful people guilty of wrong doing? I say that the gallows is appropriate to any and all associated with Epstein’s crimes. I will follow the cookie crumbs regardless of where they may lead. Justice is to prevail even if the heavens fall as a result.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image85
          Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          Cred, I too have been confused on why AG Bondi did not just release the Grand Jury info. I was under the impression she had the power/right to release the info. But she was not.

          AG  Bondi followed the law and took the Epstein-related documents to a judge instead of just releasing them herself because grand jury materials are legally protected under federal and state laws, and cannot be unsealed without a judge’s approval. Grand jury secrecy is governed by Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e), which prohibits the disclosure of grand jury testimony except under very limited circumstances, one of which is a judge granting an order to unseal the material. This rule exists to protect the identities of witnesses and jurors, to avoid tainting future prosecutions, and to prevent the public shaming of individuals who were never formally charged with a crime. As Attorney General, Pam Bondi does not have the legal authority to unilaterally override this rule, which is why she was required to seek a judge’s approval before any grand jury materials could be released.

          On July 17, 2025, Trump posted on Truth Social, directing Attorney General Bondi to “produce any and all pertinent Grand Jury testimony, subject to Court approval,” to address the growing controversy over Epstein-related files. He emphasized the need for a court-sanctioned release.

          The next day, July 18, 2025, Bondi, through the DOJ and alongside Deputy AG Todd Blanche, formally filed a motion in federal court requesting that the grand jury transcripts be unsealed, with appropriate redactions for victim privacy.

          Today--the Florida federal judge officially denied the Department of Justice’s request, led by AG Pam Bondi, to unseal grand jury transcripts from the 2005 and 2007 Jeffrey Epstein investigations in West Palm Beach. U.S. District Judge Robin Rosenberg ruled the court’s “hands were tied” under binding Eleventh Circuit precedent and that the government failed to meet the narrow legal criteria needed to override grand jury secrecy. The transcripts remain sealed due to strict grand jury confidentiality laws. Judge Robin L. Rosenberg was appointed to the federal bench by President Barack Obama. He nominated her on February 26, 2014,
          source apnews.com

          As of this evening, the DOJ could appeal Rosenberg’s decision, though no confirmation yet.

          I agree, I want to see these documents released. At the same time, I believe it's important that only those involved in Epstein’s crimes are exposed. The keyword here should be crimes. I’m concerned that casting too wide a net could unfairly implicate people who had no part in what he did.

  30. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    When Trump now calls it the "Epstein Hoax," it's not just him protecting himself and his buddies involved. It's a slap in the face to every single child that was victimized that was by Jeffrey Epstein and his entire circle... But please tell me more about how you're the party of family values...

  31. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    Why didn’t Biden release the Epstein files?”

    The Epstein records were sealed by a judge until after Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial. They weren’t unsealed until January 2024. So no, Biden couldn’t release what wasn’t legally available.

    Biden didn’t run a cult. He let the DOJ operate independently, unlike Trump, who demands loyalty oaths and treats every agency like his personal operatives.

    And no Democrat ran on a platform promising to release the Epstein files. Trump did. Then blocked them.

  32. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    Laughable.... Wonder why JD is so quiet now??
    https://x.com/CalltoActivism/status/1945255742497239466

  33. My Esoteric profile image85
    My Esotericposted 2 weeks ago

    Trump and his minions have a MELTDOWN over the publication of these new photos of Epstein and Trump together - WHY?

    "In a brief call with CNN on Tuesday, President Trump, asked about the wedding photos, responded, “You’ve got to be kidding me,” before repeatedly calling CNN “fake news” and hanging up."

    Why so defensive and why lie about it? What does he have to hide?

    "In a statement to CNN, White House Communications Director Steven Cheung said, “These are nothing more than out-of-context frame grabs of innocuous videos and pictures of widely attended events to disgustingly infer something nefarious.

    “The fact is that the President kicked him out of his club for being a creep. This is nothing more than a continuation of the fake news stories concocted by the Democrats and the liberal media.”"


    Boy, defensive - WHY. Also, more context on expelling Epstein - this was in 2007-2008, well after the famous breakup between the two in 2004. So, was the reason for expelling Epstein fabricated? It was never corroborated.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/22/politics … os-footage

  34. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago
    1. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      He ALWAYS LIES, even about where his father was born (so far it is in New York, New Jersey, or Germany, depending on what he felt like that day)

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        Bondi needs to be hauled before Congress to testify under oath.... Someone is obviously lying here.

  35. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    The Grand Jury testimony is a fraction of the Epstein files. Bondi admitted they have a “truckload” of documents. They can release those documents  (no videos)- redacted to protect the girls’ identifiers...without a Judge’s order. 

    The DOJ has 1.6 million pages of Epstein case files and Barbie Bondi has the power to release all of it.

    Read what the judge says: the DOJ KNEW they couldn’t release the testimony based on case law. Just more theatrics meant to distract and confused the unwitting...

    https://hubstatic.com/17574691_f1024.jpg

    1. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Federal judge in Florida denies Justice Department request to unseal Epstein grand jury material

      Updated on: July 23, 2025 / 3:11 PM EDT / CBS News

      Washington — A federal judge in Florida has denied the Justice Department's request to unseal grand jury material stemming from investigations in 2005 and 2007 into the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

      Judge Robin Rosenberg, a federal judge with the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, wrote in an order on Wednesday that "the court's hands are tied," given precedents about grand jury secrecy established by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, which includes southern Florida. She noted that the government conceded that she was bound by the 11th Circuit's decisions.

      Last week, Attorney General Pam Bondi and Justice Department lawyers asked several federal courts to unseal grand jury transcripts in cases involving Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, his longtime partner who is serving a 20-year prison sentence on sex trafficking charges. Epstein was convicted on state prostitution charges in 2008, and faced federal sex trafficking charges in 2019. He died in federal custody weeks later.

      Wednesday's ruling only applies to transcripts of proceedings by federal grand juries that were convened in West Palm Beach in 2005 and 2007. Separate grand juries in New York indicted Epstein in 2019, and Maxwell in 2020. The judges who oversaw those cases are still weighing the administration's request to unseal proceedings, and have asked the government, victims and defense teams for more information before issuing rulings.

      The New York federal court is bound by different circuit court precedent, meaning judges there could ultimately pave the way for more information to be released.

      Bondi is following the letter of the law. In February, she released many documents without breaking the law.

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        She has over a million pages of information available to release immediately and grand jury information reveals very little.... Those proceedings are narrowly focused on determining whether there is sufficient evidence to indict, not on providing a comprehensive account of an investigation.  Asking for the grand jury info to be unsealed was a ploy.  Their own filing says so lol

  36. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    Lawrence O'Donnell, last night,  read the account of one of Jeffrey Epstein's 14 year old victims, and it boils my blood that trump and Republicans are protecting these pedophiles.

    It's disgusting.  These victims should be given justice.

    We need to see it all. The files, the videos, photographs. The grand jury transcripts are less important and they know it. They just threw the maga dog a bone....when are these folks going to wake up and realize they're being played?  Treated like they're stupid with these tactics?

    Some  fell for a ruse. Grand jury testimony is almost never released. This was just a ploy by trump to make it look like he was being transparent and then blame the judge. Barbie has over a million pages... some with Trump's name in them...that she could release immediately...

  37. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    Question....maga, does your loyalty to Trump include protecting pedophiles?

    1. Kathleen Cochran profile image74
      Kathleen Cochranposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Here's the central question:

      After excusing so much of Trump's unethical - if not illegal - behavior, what is it about the Epstein issue that finally bothers MAGAs?

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        Maga was promised almost daily  by this bunch to drag these files into the light... And now they're going back on it.  They've decided to meet with the victimizer instead of the victims.   even granted her immunity when speaking to Trump's attorney... The whole thing reeks of a cover-up and I'm quite certain a pardon is coming.

      2. My Esoteric profile image85
        My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        A very good question indeed - one that will go unchallenged and unanswered I bet.

  38. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    To be hired by trump, you have to be willing to spew batshit crazy lies and conspiracies that would land most people in an insane asylum. To remain a part of the pedophile president's regime, there's nothing the morally destitute Tulsi Gabbard will not do.

    https://x.com/CalltoActivism/status/1948092348581441651

    1. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      " To remain a part of the pedophile president's regime, there's nothing the morally destitute Tulsi Gabbard will not do."

      Wow -- rant much?

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        He can clear his name at any time

        1. Sharlee01 profile image85
          Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          " To remain a part of the pedophile president's regime, there's nothing the morally destitute Tulsi Gabbard will not do. Willow"
          https://hubpages.com/politics/forum/368 … ost4377774

          I've always said this, and I’ll say it again: some liberals have a pattern: they accuse first, condemn loudly, and only afterward go looking for evidence to justify it. That’s completely backward. You don’t get to throw around serious accusations without any solid proof and then hope something turns up later. That’s not justice,  it’s a rant, theater.  Which we have witnessed from the liberals for decades. It would seem they should learn, and not continue to make false statements.

          Your comments are starting to sound a bit desperate, so I’m going to step away, desperation isn’t something I engage with well. Honestly, I’ve been biting my tongue trying to stay civil while watching some of the misinformation being thrown around. When you’ve got actual proof that Trump is a pedophile, feel free to get back to me. Until then, I won’t waste my time.

          1. DrMark1961 profile image99
            DrMark1961posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            Did a judge in Florida block them from releasing grand jury findings? Is this something else that is going to have to go to the supreme court?

            1. Willowarbor profile image60
              Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              Grand jury proceedings have a very little information pertaining to an investigation.... Barbie has all of the files on her desk. She can release them in the next hour if she wants... The Trump Administration admits in its own filing that they did not expect to get grand jury information.  This was a ploy.  A clear indication that they believe their base is stupid

            2. Sharlee01 profile image85
              Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              I have done some research on the issue. Hard to do when the media has already turned it all into skewed fodder.... And yes, a judge in Florida has blocked the release.

              Actually, it seems many are missing a lot of important legal details and seem to confuse how the process works. First off, grand jury proceedings are a big part of criminal investigations, not just some side note. They include witness testimony, documents, subpoenas, and all kinds of evidence. That’s why they’re protected by strict secrecy laws under Rule 6(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. The idea that they don’t contain much or aren’t relevant just isn’t true. The bulk of evidence is in that information, and was obtained under oath.

              Also, saying that AG Pam Bondi can just release the files off her desk is completely wrong. A lot of people (and media outlets) are saying Pam Bondi is “holding back” Epstein documents and refusing to release them — but they’re leaving out some pretty major legal facts. The reality is, if those documents are sealed by a court or tied to grand jury proceedings, she literally cannot release them without violating the law. We're talking about federal grand jury secrecy rules (Rule 6(e)), court sealing orders, and victim privacy protections. Breaking those rules isn’t just unethical — it could result in criminal charges or loss of her law license.

              Yes, Bondi did release a batch of documents earlier this year, things like redacted flight logs and contact lists, but most of that was already known. She’s also acknowledged that thousands of additional files exist, but most of them are still sealed or protected. Unless a judge unseals them or Congress issues a subpoena and gets legal clearance to release them, her hands are tied. So when the media frames it like she's just sitting on them and refusing to act, it’s misleading. She’s not holding back information by choice, she’s bound by law. If people want more released, pressure should be directed at the courts or Congress, not just Bondi.

              1. Willowarbor profile image60
                Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                Bondi has everything on her desk that needs to be released now. The grand jury information is a very small piece.   Grand jury transcripts are not going to shed light on anything new in the Epstein debacle. Grand juries only need probable cause to indict someone. Releasing these transcripts isn’t transparency. It’s a temporary distraction until the next news cycle.
                This is laughable, Grand Jury witness testimony is not even close to the complete body of evidence/files in the  Epstein case (or any other case really). Grand Jury testimony is used AT THE BEGINNING to determine if prosecutors have enough of a case for an indictment.... But Barbie has everything else on her desk.

                This Administration knew the judge would not release that info. They said as much in their brief. This was nothing but a ploy... An attempt to confuse those who don't know any better.  The document she has are not sealed...

                1. Sharlee01 profile image85
                  Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Not sure of what you are referring to... I guess it's something the media has offered.  The judge was an Obama-appointed judge. "A Florida federal judge recently denied the Department of Justice's request to unseal grand jury records related to Jeffrey Epstein's 2005 and 2007 investigations. U.S. District Judge Robin Rosenberg ruled that she was bound by established legal precedents that protect grand jury materials from public disclosure, stating that her "hands are tied" due to the strict limitations on revealing such documents under federal law."

                  1. Willowarbor profile image60
                    Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                    You're misunderstanding the issue... Barbie doesn't need grand jury info. She has everything on her desk and is able to release it at any time. The recent court decision has nothing to do with the information she already has in her possession.

              2. My Esoteric profile image85
                My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                "Hard to do when the media has already turned it all into skewed fodder.." - Talk about unsupported opinion, lol.

                "A lot of people (and media outlets) are saying Pam Bondi is “holding back” Epstein documents " - Why do you feel a need to turn a perfectly true statement into a politically biased by saying something you have no proof of "(and media outlets)".

                In answer to your 2nd paragraph:

                [Actually, no one is saying grand jury proceedings are irrelevant or devoid of evidence — far from it. But let’s not exaggerate their transparency or completeness when it comes to understanding a full legal case.

                Yes, Rule 6(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure keeps grand jury proceedings secret, but that also means the public (and sometimes even defense teams) do not see the full context or rebuttals that might exist. A grand jury only hears the prosecution’s side and they present the minimal needed to get an indictment. There is no defense, no cross-examination, no judge moderating evidentiary disputes. So while the information gathered is under oath, it is not a balanced or adversarial process.

                Grand juries are investigative tools, not trial bodies. Indictments can be based on hearsay or limited evidence, and the threshold is simply "probable cause," not guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

                So yes, they’re critical to the legal process, but they’re not definitive proof of wrongdoing and they rarely present the full story.

                In short: Grand juries are important, but not infallible or comprehensive. They are only one part of the justice system — not the final word on guilt or innocence.[/i]

                In response to your 3rd paragraph:

                Let’s clarify a few things here — no one is seriously suggesting Pam Bondi break the law. [i]What critics are pointing out is that she may be using legal restrictions as cover to withhold information that could be disclosed through proper legal channels, or selectively choosing what to release and what to withhold under the guise of confidentiality.

                Rule 6(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure does protect federal grand jury materials, but not everything in the Epstein files is covered by that. Much of what’s being discussed includes non-grand jury evidence, communications, visitor logs, correspondence, and civil litigation documents — which can, in many cases, be released or summarized if redacted properly.

                Second, if Bondi believes that disclosure is in the public interest but faces legal barriers, she can petition the court for unsealing or limited release — a step she has not publicly taken.

                Third, invoking “victim privacy” is valid, but irrelevant in cases where the names in question are not victims, but rather well-connected public figures allegedly linked to Epstein’s network. Redaction exists for a reason. Transparency doesn’t require violating victims' rights — it requires the will to act responsibly and lawfully.

                So no, people aren’t demanding Bondi commit a felony — they’re asking why she hasn’t taken legal steps available to her to increase transparency, especially when she herself has politicized the issue by briefing Trump behind closed doors.{/i]

          2. Sharlee01 profile image85
            Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            " To remain a part of the pedophile president's regime, there's nothing the morally destitute Tulsi Gabbard will not do. Willow"

            I've always said this, and I’ll say it again: some liberals have a pattern: they accuse first, condemn loudly, and only afterward go looking for evidence to justify it. That’s completely backward. You don’t get to throw around serious accusations without any solid proof and then hope something turns up later. That’s not justice,  it’s a rant, theater.  Which we have witnessed from the liberals for decades. It would seem they should learn, and not continue to make false statements.

            Your comments are starting to sound a bit desperate, so I’m going to step away, desperation isn’t something I engage with well. Honestly, I’ve been biting my tongue trying to stay civil while watching some of the misinformation being thrown around. When you’ve got actual proof that Trump is a pedophile, feel free to get back to me. Until then, I won’t waste my time.

            Maybe you might want to read the documents Gabbard has released--- these are not going away, and are solid Government documentation. She has put forth evidence, not accusation, in the form of documents.  I posted links to the documents here on HPs. Seems I had no takers LOL

            1. Willowarbor profile image60
              Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              No one, not Republicans and not Maga are biting on the Obama claims.  They are laughable and gabbard is a disgrace

              1. Sharlee01 profile image85
                Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                That’s your opinion, and I’m sure you’re only speaking for yourself. I asked if you actually read the documents; my guess is you didn’t. These are government documents that contain real evidence showing what Obama and others said and did. This isn’t speculation. I don’t think the Democrats’ Epstein ploy takes the spotlight off Obama at all. In fact, the evidence is still coming together. The DOJ is actively investigating everything Gabbard handed over, and now it’s in Bondi’s hands. If she uncovers any criminal wrongdoing, I’m confident we’ll hear about it.

                1. Willowarbor profile image60
                  Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                  The garbage that gabbard  gathered and threw out there  isn't worth the time to debunk... That has been done over and over and over again.  More fodder for the unwitting

                2. My Esoteric profile image85
                  My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                  BTW, which documents are you referring to - The report that was produced in 2020 by the Republican majority staff of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI)?

                  That has been debunked for the reasons I listed earlier.

                  1. IslandBites profile image70
                    IslandBitesposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                    I wouldnt give oxigen to their distraction. Very few are buying it. Even from MAGA.

              2. My Esoteric profile image85
                My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                I just looked at why:

                1. A totally partisan GOP-only staff report, not committee-approved

                2. Contradicted by Marco Rubio's Intelligence Committee bipartisan
                report.

                3. Fact Checking revealed there was no new verified information and contained misleading framing

                4. Former and current intel specialists see this as politically driven reinterpretation

                5. The timing of the release smells to high heaven - just like Trump's reversal of wanting the files released. What is he hiding?

          3. My Esoteric profile image85
            My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            Sorry, you are transferring Republican modus operandi to the Democrats.

            Trump is doing it to himself - his actions force people to consider the idea that he might be. And this isn't new either. He got people talking in 1992, after talking to some 10 year old girls he was heard saying this as he was walking away "“I am going to be dating her in 10 years. Can you believe it?”  YUCK!

            And in 2000s "In various interviews with radio host Howard Stern, Trump made multiple remarks about his daughter Ivanka’s appearance and has been criticized for sexualizing her. While not directly about little girls in general, these comments have contributed to the perception some people hold about his views on young women."

            And Then In a 2004 Howard Stern interview, Trump responded to a question labeling Ivanka “a piece of ass,” by affirming it: “Yeah.” He also praised her as "beautiful" and “an amazing beauty.” - Unbelievably, he didn't object to the comment about Ivanka's "ass" - amazing.

  39. Sharlee01 profile image85
    Sharlee01posted 2 weeks ago

    Hey, anyone else enjoying the hair on fore up in here? LOL

    The only investigation I am following is the newest -- Obama, Brennan, and Clapper. Some are calling it treason! Oh, this will be a fun one to follow. Russia Russia Russia is back.

    1. Willowarbor profile image60
      Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      How will he walk this back?

      https://x.com/MrNebraska86/status/1948093566737334766

      But I'm sure folks are more concerned with the matter of Bondi telling Trump he was in the files and him stating that she didn't tell him that... Her ass needs to be in front of Congress under oath immediately.

      Trump’s frantic fabrication that Obama committed treason is really his acknowledgment that info in the Epstein files will destroy him. Besides the distraction attempt, he resorts to extortion talk by saying “If you hold me accountable, I’ll use my office frame the top Dem.” Weak

      1. Sharlee01 profile image85
        Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        There is no public record or official statement confirming that Pam Bondi told Trump he was named in Epstein-related files. Can you quote her directly with full context?

        This is all I have seen --- and it is not confirmed.  " Pam Bondi & Deputy Todd Blanche (May 2025). According to The Wall Street Journal

        Bondi and Blanche briefed Trump in May, stating that Trump’s name “appeared multiple times in the Epstein files”, which included unverified hearsay about many high-profile individuals"  No quotes in the article.

        Trump publicly denied that she told him this. No transcript or testimony contradicts that as of now.

        If Bondi is subpoenaed and contradicts him under oath, then there would be a legitimate conflict to investigate.

        The link give only part of what Trump stated... To bad some have the habit of selecting bits and pieces of what Trump actually shared.   It would be nice if the entire context of his statement were offered. Maybe research the rest of what he did state beyond an X blurb.

        1. Willowarbor profile image60
          Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          Then she will have absolutely no problem when she is brought before congress, under oath, to answer the question point blank. No waffling, no sidestepping no BS.   This woman is about to be put to the ultimate test... Will she sacrifice herself, her future and lie for Trump?  We all know the truth is coming at this bunch like a Mack truck...

        2. My Esoteric profile image85
          My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          You start out with a much used rhetorical tactic - The classic burden-shifting tactic. You’re demanding direct quotes or transcripts—things rarely available in early stages of investigative reporting.
          The fact that the Wall Street Journal, who has never been found to misuse sources, reported Bondi and Blanche briefed Trump—based on multiple high-level sources—is more than sufficient to warrant discussion.

          If Trump wants to dispute it, that’s his right. But pretending it’s meaningless just because there’s “no video” or “no quote” yet is not a valid rebuttal.

      2. wilderness profile image77
        wildernessposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        "But I'm sure folks are more concerned with the matter of Bondi telling Trump he was in the files and him stating that she didn't tell him that... Her ass needs to be in front of Congress under oath immediately."

        Why?  Is this of national importance - that Trump forgot what she said or she meant to say it but forgot to do so?  Will the country become Communist (we're already Marxist) because of it?  Will the sun go out or the moon fall?

        Or is just more witch hunt, desperately searching for dirt to hang on Trump, no matter how trivial?  Weak.

        1. Willowarbor profile image60
          Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          Lol... Trump "forgot" that he was briefed by his own attorney general that his name was in the files multiple times?   He apparently remembered enough when asked, to say that she did give a short briefing.  Either he is lying or Barbie is lying take your pick.   We have a potential pedophile as POTUS and you don't think this requires investigation???  This is disgusting.

          Some have no red line do they?

          1. My Esoteric profile image85
            My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            Nope, they don't. Anything to protect their cult leader is permissible.

        2. My Esoteric profile image85
          My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          ANYTIME you find the DOIJ or the President lying, it is of national importance.

      3. IslandBites profile image70
        IslandBitesposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        They are trying really hard to distract and change the topic. Bad luck for him, this comes from his own MAGAs.

        Btw, he not only admited it happened...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOtxAgqrGQc

    2. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Then they also need to investigate Marco Rubio, Richard Burr, and the other Republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee who backed up what the intelligence community found about Russian interference. Why aren't those names on your list?   

      You are right, it will be fun to watch as Trump diverts you and the rest of MAUGA from the real story at hand.

  40. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    Thomas Massie to Speaker Mike Johnson:

    “Why are you running cover for an underage sex trafficking ring and pretending this is a partisan issue? MAGA voted for this.”

    Yes, yes maga did vote for this... It's fantastic they're taking the lead on uncovering the truth

  41. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    Oh and now we have Trump's personal attorney headed for a private meeting with convicted sex trafficker and pedophile Maxwell.... We've got a full-blown cover up underway folks.

    Tell me more about how there's nothing to see here LOL...

    1. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      LOL

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        It is well documented that this woman has previously lied under oath and now? I'm sure she's going to receive a pardon to continue to lie... Surely this meeting will be recorded and independently observed?

        1. Sharlee01 profile image85
          Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          My God, it's hard to understand your mindset. You're definitely reading a lot into this. Let me know when she actually gets pardoned, then we’ll have something real to talk about.

          1. Willowarbor profile image60
            Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            There is absolutely no reason for Trump's attorney to go and speak in private with this woman who is a documented perjurer... Barbie has all of the files, remember, on her desk... They can be released immediately

          2. My Esoteric profile image85
            My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            Trump pardon cop beaters and insurrectionists - nothing is so low that he won't pardon it should it help him personally.

    2. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      I would not doubt it.

  42. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    Why is no one reaching out to the victims?  They've got a lot to say

    1. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Some have spoken out.

      Notable Names Mentioned by Victims or Advocates:
      Prince Andrew: Virginia Giuffre publicly accused Prince Andrew of sexual abuse connected to Epstein’s trafficking operation. He has denied the allegations but faced intense public scrutiny and legal action. (BBC)

      Jean-Luc Brunel: A French modeling agent accused of recruiting girls for Epstein. Several victims, including Giuffre, named him as a facilitator in the trafficking ring. Brunel was arrested in France but died in custody in 2022. (The Guardian)

      Les Wexner: The billionaire founder of L Brands, he had a close relationship with Epstein. While never publicly accused by victims directly, his association with Epstein has been under scrutiny, and some victims allege knowledge or involvement of others in his circle.

      Alan Dershowitz: A prominent attorney who was accused by Virginia Giuffre. Dershowitz has vigorously denied the allegations and filed defamation suits against accusers.

      There have been no other accusations from any of the victims. No further facts have been reported.

    2. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Now we are getting to the meat of things - what about what was done to the children by these rich and powerful men? Why was their involvement swept under the rug in Acosta's investigation? Well, I asked ChatGPT and it gave the despicable answer:

      "As U.S. Attorney, Alexander Acosta negotiated a controversial plea deal granting immunity to Epstein and unnamed co‑conspirators, effectively shutting down a wider federal investigation. The deal covered four named individuals and “any potential co-conspirators.” ([turn0search33], [turn0search32])

      This agreement halted further charges—even when new information later emerged."


      Why hasn't Acosta been investigated?? (It also answers the Republicans' question - why didn't Democrats do anything in the intervening time.)

      So Sick.

    3. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Here is more information on why Republicans are being duplicitous and disingenuous.

      Yes, the 2007 non-prosecution agreement is a key reason the Epstein case went cold for years, and Democratic prosecutors and federal agencies were constrained in how far they could push things.

      However, Republican accusations of deliberate inaction often ignore the fact that it was a Republican-appointed prosecutor who created the legal shield in the first place—and that Trump himself appointed Acosta to a Cabinet post. - WHY did Trump do that? One really must wonder given how he is acting today!

  43. Credence2 profile image80
    Credence2posted 2 weeks ago
    1. Willowarbor profile image60
      Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      I absolutely love the fact that it looks like it will be MAGA that takes Trump down.

      MAGA literally believed Trump would drain the swamp. He won over MAGA with this promise. An obvious lie, but they believed the Epstein files was the key to punish Dems & the deep state.
      They feel betrayed & rightly so... Trump played them for fools and now they are coming for him

      1. Credence2 profile image80
        Credence2posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        What even more interesting is that Trump’s grasp on his troops is not ironclad. Evidence here that a schism within the Trumpaverse is possible, a mere fissure now can become a crack later

  44. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    What about Jeffrey Epstein and his powerful and rich clients' victims?
    Epstein victims say the Trump administration's handling of the case adds to their anguish.
    “All the brave women who came forward … all the work that we did to tell the world what happened to us, it’s all being erased,” says one of Epstein’s victims.... The accounts from the victims that have been published are absolutely sickening.

  45. IslandBites profile image70
    IslandBitesposted 2 weeks ago

    Now some MAGAs are saying that Ghislaine Maxwell is innocent and shouldn't be in jail. SMH


    Others, (after the House subpoenaed her), are saying  no one should believe anything she says.

    Anything to defend orange sick man in charge.

  46. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    Barbie has the goods....The House Oversight subcommittee has voted to subpoena the Justice Department to release the full Epstein files.....

    https://hubstatic.com/17576910_f1024.jpg

    1. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      And the majority of what was mentioned in the first paragraph was released to the public. The list of victims' names was not. In a February 2025 interview, she explained that the release of Epstein files was delayed because there were over 250 victims, and disclosing their identities would “make you sick.” Hence, protecting their privacy was necessary. She specifically stated the personal details of the victims were redacted for that reason.

      Pam Bondi never actually said there was a “client list.” In February, during a Fox interview, she mentioned the Epstein file was “on her desk,” but she was referring to the broader case file, not a specific list. The media and public ran with the idea of a “list,” but she never confirmed one existed.

      By July, the DOJ and FBI publicly stated they conducted a full review and found no such client list. That contradicted the public’s expectations, but technically, Bondi didn’t lie, her words were just vague enough to spark the speculation. This is another case where media interpretation went further than what was actually said.

      It appears she provided what she could in February and then hoped to release the Grand Jury information. Unfortunately, a judge ruled the information not to be released.  It seems there is no list to show; perhaps the Grand Jury evidence would reveal more.

      Unfortunately, some are calling the AG a liar without evidence. In my view, she is doing what she can to be transparent.

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        She is sitting on what she herself called "a truckload" of documents that have been sifted through... There is absolutely nothing, not one thing holding back the release.   She will ultimately be forced to go before Congress and answer the question..."Did you tell Trump he was mentioned in the files"  one of them is lying... Looks like Trump will be caught in one of his many lies on this one

        https://x.com/MrsButters/status/1946330789219606560

  47. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    Oh my barbie.. this did not age well
    https://x.com/ArmandKleinX/status/1896979902173470947

    1. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      What? Did you even listen to what she said?  Her strongest point was that the Biden administration sat on those files. Makes you wonder, if there was a list and Trump’s name was on it, don’t you think they would’ve leaked it in a heartbeat? Especially with an election going on? Come on. Why would they withhold something that could damage Trump? The idea that they were somehow protecting him makes zero sense. Your take on this honestly seems way off.  Why post this link, very odd---- Maybe X is not the best place to look for facts.

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        Yes I did.. her statement was back in March... Why hasn't she followed through with her promise?  You know, TRANSPARENCY

    2. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      First off, I want to be clear, I’m not trying to insult you. But seriously, what? Where exactly does AG Bondi mention a “list”? She lays out the facts clearly. The majority of the material involved was Grand Jury information, and by law, she needed a court’s approval to release it.

      I actually hope people follow the link you shared, because if they take the time to watch or read, they'll see Bondi gave a thoughtful and articulate explanation of what she had done and what she planned to do. And so far, she’s followed through on exactly that.

      Honestly, it’s baffling that you’d point to those sources; they don’t support your argument at all in this case.

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        You didn't hear the part in her video blurb that everything in her possession would be released???

        "Everything's going to come out to the public.. the public has a right to know"

        She is in possession of these files.. she made these statements back in March... Time to make good on them

  48. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    Barbie herself telling you she's got the goods...

    https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1896755795683147931

  49. Willowarbor profile image60
    Willowarborposted 2 weeks ago

    Again... Admits she's got thousands of pages..Bondi says the FBI is working around the clock under orders from her, Kash Patel, Dan Bongino to ensure the files are released....LOL
    https://x.com/its_The_Dr/status/1903968971906301988

    1. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Thousands of pages were involved, where’s the confusion here? Bondi released everything she legally could. She even went a step further and asked the court to unseal the grand jury files. Common sense tells anyone that’s where the bulk of the real information is. But an Obama-appointed judge blocked it. Hopefully she appeals, and she should, especially since she’s been clear from the start about wanting full transparency.

      And again, why didn’t the Biden administration release all of this earlier? If Trump had committed a crime and was named in those documents, you can bet they would’ve used it, especially during an election season.

      Anyway, time to step away from this topic. I feel I’ve made my point clearly. Continuing would just be redundant, and possibly even disrespectful to you.

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        "Thousands of pages were involved, where’s the confusion here? Bondi released everything she legally could."

        This is incorrect. Even by Bond his own previous statements.  I previously stated the reason documents weren't released during the Biden Administration.

        1. My Esoteric profile image85
          My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          And so have I. I imagine others have as well but it is to no avail, it does not agree with the MAUGA narrative so the facts are ignored and the same false point of view is repeated.

      2. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        https://hubstatic.com/17577084.jpg

        From AI....
        https://hubstatic.com/17577088_f1024.jpg

  50. IslandBites profile image70
    IslandBitesposted 2 weeks ago

    Attorney: “Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?”

    Epstein: “Though l'd like to answer that question, at least today l'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.”

    smile

    1. wilderness profile image77
      wildernessposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      If real (no link, no evidential proof), WOW!  That's really over the top!  To speak to Trump while at an amusement park in the presence of girls under 18!  Or at a party.  Or walking down the street.  Of in the presence of Ivanka or Tiffany before they turned 18! 

      The horror!  That Epstein refused to talk about it is clear proof that he and Trump spoke together in the presence of a underaged Tiffany, and clearly shows Trump to be the devil incarnate!

      (I trust you can discern the sarcasm.  The effort never ends to demonize Trump, and for anything or nothing, does it?)

      1. Willowarbor profile image60
        Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        Are you serious?  The man could have spoken with clarifications... He chose not to
        https://x.com/Fly_Sistah/status/1948755471474561026

        1. Sharlee01 profile image85
          Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          Some 200 times he took the fifth. I don't think he answered any questions. But I would need to check on that.

          1. Willowarbor profile image60
            Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            Yes, he refused to answer if he and Trump socialized in the presence of minors.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image85
              Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              Sharlee01 wrote:
              Some 200 times he took the fifth. I don't think he answered any questions. But I would need to check on that.

              "Yes, he refused to answer if he and Trump socialized in the presence of minors." Willow

              And you feel this offers you the right to label Trump a pedophile?

              As I mentioned, when I reviewed the documents released by AG Bondi back in February, I went through the flight logs for Epstein’s jet. Trump flew on it seven times, accompanied by his daughter and Marla Maples. Given his daughter’s young age at the time, it’s reasonable to assume he could have answered “yes” to that question. Still, he flew on the jet seven times. I think when constructing a conspiracy theory, it’s important to consider just a few facts. Were Marla and a young child Tiffany, supposedly part of the pedophilia? That question alone undermines the logic behind some of the more extreme narratives being pushed.  But, to some, the plane ride is
              all it may take to smear them as well.  I mean, so many today feel it is their privilege to slander without any form of facts.

              1. Willowarbor profile image60
                Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                Most of the flight logs and other information remain redacted....Bondi could release all of the files that are on her desk at anytime.   She has released VERY little... I don't really care who is in the files.  They need to be released.... Hey I'm with JD Vance and Kash and Bongino  on this one.

                Also, it is completely inappropriate for Trump's lawyer to meet with the convicted sex trafficker Maxwell to dig around for what she knows... LOL where is the transparency here??

                Again, will you support the pardoning of Maxwell?

      2. IslandBites profile image70
        IslandBitesposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        Sure, sure. lol

      3. Sharlee01 profile image85
        Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        I think it’s honestly pitiful to watch. Sure, some might chalk it up to sore losses, but to me, it goes much deeper than that. It reveals a level of vitriol that suggests the person is consumed by hatred. And as for the comment itself, just Google how many times Epstein took the Fifth. The kind of mindset that clings to this sort of baseless rhetoric doesn’t surprise me anymore.

        What’s kind of comical—and really turns the question into a “gotcha” trap—is that yes, Tiffany Trump did fly on Jeffrey Epstein’s private plane. According to flight logs released by Attorney General Pam Bondi in February 2025, Tiffany appeared alongside Donald Trump in at least one manifest from the 1990s. So, had Epstein ever confirmed anything, the groundwork would’ve already been in place—not just to smear Trump, but to drag his young daughter into the narrative too. The level of glee that would’ve unleashed from some circles is easy to imagine.

        What’s even more interesting is that the plane logs and flight schedules are publicly available online. Anyone can look them up. And oddly enough, they also show who actually visited Epstein’s island—which the media, for some reason, didn’t seem nearly as eager to highlight.

        Top Flyers on Epstein’s Jet ("Lolita Express")
        Jeffrey Epstein – Listed as a passenger on at least 1,098 flights, per pilot flight logs and flight records
        New York Magazine

        Ghislaine Maxwell – Epstein’s longtime associate, referred to as his "best friend," appeared on approximately 520 flights between the 1990s and early 2000s
        Reuters

        Sarah Kellen (a.k.a. Sarah Kensington) – A trusted Epstein associate suspected of coordinating trips, logged around 350 flights
        Business Insider
        .
        Eva Andersson-Dubin – Socialite and former romantic partner of Epstein; flew at least three dozen times, sometimes with husband Glenn Dubin and family
        Epstein's Black Book
        Business Insider

        Bill Clinton – Former president flew 26 times, including several AIDS-awareness trips to Africa with aides and celebrities
        Business Insider

        Donald Trump – Former president appears on seven flights between 1993 and 1997, some with his wife and daughter Tiffany, the logs show his ex-wife, and other family members also took flights.
        Business Insider

        1. wilderness profile image77
          wildernessposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          It is sad.  The eternal fight to find something, anything, on Trump will never end.  They don't need truth, they don't need reality, they don't even need common sense.  Just something to demonize the man, true or not, real or not, substantial or not.  This one is because a known sex offender took the fifth (along with hundreds more examples).  Nothing about Trump, nothing of what was said, nothing at all...but a deep hatred for Trump and a massive desire to hurt him or anyone remotely connected to him.

          Sad doesn't cover it.

          1. Willowarbor profile image60
            Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            Sad? Sad is the fact that far too many want to cover up pedophilia by the Rich and famous... We've got one woman sitting in jail out of this whole mess right now. Where are the clients? Where are the men who Maxwell traffic children to?  Sorry, but most of us believed these scumbags need to be dragged out into the light... Don't care who they are either. 

            Sadder yet? When Trump pardons the Maxwell monster... The whole thing reeks of a cover-up.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image85
              Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              Another classic, I will save to bring back at another time.

          2. Willowarbor profile image60
            Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            I think you're forgetting the fact that Trump and many in his administration, including Bondi, Patel and bongino were on constant rotation on Fox News during the campaign promising to release the files... And now you want to hang this on the Democrats? LOL... This is 100% Maga.  He promised this crap to his base and they want it... And now they're pissed because he's covering it up.  It's funny you don't see that.  Everyone else does.

          3. Sharlee01 profile image85
            Sharlee01posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            Honestly, they’ve thrown everything they could at him, and none of it has really stuck. At this point, their frustration is boiling over, and now they’re resorting to using vile language. It seems driven purely by hate. As I’ve said before, many in our society today have been consumed by it. It’s not just sad anymore, it’s becoming truly disgraceful, and it' disgusting.

            1. Willowarbor profile image60
              Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              Trump and those in his own Administration fueled this fire for years.  They stoked the base by promising these files.... And now you're telling me he's a victim? No.

            2. My Esoteric profile image85
              My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

              Honestly, Trump is a convicted felon and adjudicated sexual predator, defamer, and fraudster - obviously something stuck didn't it. Why can't you admit that?

              Further, had you not helped put a criminal in the White House again, chances are extremely high he would have been found guilty of inciting the Jan 6 insurrection and endangering America's national security by stealing sensitive documents.

              It is beyond me how you are anyone can support such a disgusting man who is dangerously mentally ill.

          4. My Esoteric profile image85
            My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            While "they don't need truth" might be valid when speaking of MAGA, there is truth and facts galore to draw reasonable conclusions about this Putin wannabe.

        2. My Esoteric profile image85
          My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          Hatred? Like you were with Biden?

          1. Willowarbor profile image60
            Willowarborposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

            These folks seem to keep forgetting the fact that it has been maga, who has screamed the loudest for years now demanding these these files be released... Stoked by Bondi, Patel, Vance , Bongino and others.

      4. My Esoteric profile image85
        My Esotericposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

        Nor should it end until people like you finally see the light about this man's true character.

 
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