Did Obama lie about conversation with Blago?

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   Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago

   There was some controversy during the presidential transition over just how much Obama knew. After Blagojevich’s arrest, several commentators noted that on Nov. 23, 2008 Obama senior advisor David Axelrod had appeared on Fox News and said of the president-elect: “I know he’s talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names, many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them.”
   
   Axelrod later retracted: “I was mistaken when I told an interviewer last month that the President-elect has spoken directly to Governor Blagojevich about the Senate vacancy. They did not then or at any time discuss the subject.”
   
   Yet the court documents now claim that Obama did in fact speak to Blago about the Senate seat. The alleged conversation happened on Dec. 1 — a week after Axelrod’s statement, and a week before Obama would deny having spoken to Blagojevich, telling reporters in Chicago, “I had no contact with the governor or his office and so I was not aware of what was happening.”
   
   The court documents state that Blagojevich and Obama discussed the Senate seat issue on Dec. 1, 2008 in Philadelphia – presumably while they were both in that city attending a National Governors Association meeting.
   
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     http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini … 18854.html

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      rhamsonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      A politician lie?  Say it ain't so!

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   Poppa Bluesposted 13 years ago

   I'd say Obama's record on lying is well documented.

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      Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Sounds like he will be questioned under oath.   
      
      Someone please provide a defenition of the word "is".

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      Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think they have found a way to tell when he is lying through body language.
      
      They use facial gestures and I guess right before he starts lying his lips move.

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   MikeNVposted 13 years ago

   Can you believe anything that comes out of his mouth?

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   lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

   Just use the Bush defense...I got bad information. Or agree to testify, but not under oath...as Bush did. And make sure Biden is there to hold your hand, like Cheney was for Bush.
   And then when people are still not satisfied with your answers or your reasons or your excuses...
   Tell them...I'm the Decider!
   
   SORRY...for being sick of lying low-down leaders...............we have you beat by miles. and miles. and miles.
   And still no resolution to our questions.
   Still no truth.
   Still no recompense.
   
   And still no justice.
   You had better get in line.

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      Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      So am I!

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   bgpappaposted 13 years ago

   Funny,
   
   The "court documents" are Blago's statements saying he spoke to Obama.
   
   Funny, how you guys will believe anyone who says anything bad about the President. 
   
   Funny, how Blago, who has been proven to be a liar on tape, now comes up with a conversation that he gives no background about and you all lead to this conclusion.

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      Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      Who is jumping to conclusions, the title of this thread is Did Obama lie about conversation with Blago?
      
      
      Everything else in the thread appears to have been said in a humorous fashion.
      
      Well except for the Bush Basher.  Could someone let her know that W.is no longer the president.

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   Doug Hughesposted 13 years ago

   The relationship between Obama and Blago is pretty well summed up in the FBI phone tap where Blago calls Obama a "mother fu&*er" becase he wouldn't make a deal over the open Senate seat... The rest of this sad - trading in crap and inuendo with no facts.

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      Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Have you heard the tape?
      
      Do you have a copy of it so we could all here it?
      
      Your right trading in crap with no facts.

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         Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         From the Chicogo Sun-Times December 9, 2008
         
         "Rod Blagojevich said that the consultants (Advisor B and another consultant are believed to be on the call at that time) are telling him that he has to "suck it up" for two years and do nothing and give this "motherf***er [the President-elect] his senator. F*** him. For nothing? F*** him."
         
         You are free to speculate as you wish - but the tapes made by the FBI show a lot of hostillity from Blago twoard Obama. Chums they were not.

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            JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Since when are politicians chums?

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               Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Perhaps you did not see Orin Hatch or John McCain at Ted Kennedy's memorial. . There is a deliberate attempt to suggest that Rod Blagojevich and  President Obama are friends or there was a political deal in the works for the Senate seat Obama vacated. The facts say otherwise.

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                  JWestCattleposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  ???  You actually 'believe' that Obama and Blago did not have a working political relationship?  Astounding. It must have all been Rahm?  Could be.  I actually don't want to 'believe' that Obama was involved in the Blago saga, you don't help matters by this kind of rebuttal argument, so let your handlers know it's not working.
                  
                  As for trying to sidestep the question with inference to McCain and anyone........let's see some research on media shots of Obama and see if he attended a funeral or other event in a smiling shot with Blago......darn, that's too much effort.

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            Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I post a portion of an article you call for facts!!!!
            
            You post a portion of an article and we are all supposed to lay prone and worship your intellect!
            
            HP I will do it for you
            
            << SNIPPED NO PERSONAL ATTACKS IN THE FORUMS>>

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               Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               You really have to work on that sense of humor.

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                  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  We could get into a battle of wits but I refuse to battle an unarmed man.

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   cosetteposted 13 years ago

   Obama doesn't lie. he "embellishes". or leaves stuff out those are the sneakiest...

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   lovemychrisposted 13 years ago

   We should know...we lived through eight years of lies, but not really....wink wink nudge nudge...
   And someone please tell the apologist that the criminals still have not paid for their obvious crimes...and until they do, anything said about the current leadership falls on deaf ears, You want to let that criminal cabal get away? Then don't come around with complaints now!

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   Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

   Doesn't a wiretap recording trump a written article?

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      Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      That will all come out in the trial.  I do not believe the complete truth of the matter has risen to the surface. 
      
      I am not implying any wrongdoing in the administration but it would be naive to believe that it is not possible?
      
      I hope justice is served and not just another case of "just us" with a huge debacle of a show for the public viewing without any real justice being done.
      
      Watergate a couple of people went to jail for a few years and now are huge media personalities.
      
      Iran Contra same thing
      
      Lewinsky/Clinton what a waste of money
      
      9/11 Who knows?

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    habeeposted 13 years ago

    I just read that Blago's lawyers are subpoenaing Obama. I don't think Obama was involved, but I'm  not so sure about Rahm. I just don't trust the tiny dancer.

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       Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Tiny Dancer LOL

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       Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       People are entitled to speculate - free speech. If the Washington Examiner, which is a free paper owwned by a conservative Denver businessman wants to  engage in a one-sided hatchet job on Obama, that's fair. But if you post it on a public forum, some of us will fact-check, something the owner of the Examiner doesn't require.
       
       I'm not picking opn Arthur alone. Last week someone linked to a Lou Dobbs rant on immigration. The problem is the telecast was from 2007 re a bill supported by Bush and  McCain. The person who posted the link was suckered by her source, thinking it was current events.
       
       Critical thinking makes me doubt everything I read until I check it out as independently as I can.  Some of you will believe ANYTHING that casts Obama in a bad light - and that bias leave you open to manipulation.

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          woolman60posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          It would be extremely unusual for a sitting president to testify at a corruption trial.
          
          Thomas Jefferson was the first president to face this problem, and he insisted that the president could not be independent of the judiciary if "he were subject to the commands of the latter" and "if the several courts could bandy him from pillar to post." Similarly, in his Commentaries on the Constitution (1833), Justice Joseph Story concluded that the president must be allowed to perform his duties "without obstruction...accountable only to his country, and to his own conscience."

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    mystereposted 13 years ago

    As the days go by, there seems to be more evidence that Obama has been very dishonest with us.  Many who voted for John McCain did not trust Obama, including myself.  I have considered Obama to be another Jimmy Carter, and everything I see going on verifies my original thoughts about Obama.  It seems every time I watch Fox News Sunday, when a liberal Obama administration guest comes on the show, they want to brush off all negative remarks against Barry Obama, even when evidence points out that what is being said is true.  Whenever Chris Wallace has the occasion to ask about Barry Obama's ties to Rodney Blagojevich, just about every left wing extremist cabinet member tries to dodge the question by attacking conservatives.  It appears that Obama has dipped his hands into "blood money" if you know what I mean.

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       ErictheGatorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       WOW!! Simply unbeleivable.

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          Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Do you think it would be unbelievable that anyone in the administration had any input into who would be placed in the senate seat?
          
          Not criminal deals but possible suggestions to the governor?
          
          You know the "wink wink" you scratch our back and we will scratch yours kind of input?

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             ErictheGatorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             No, the whole Blago thing defies belief. Blago is an idiot not capable of being a dog catcher. Maybe it's just gangster politics at work or a bunch of croonnism. It'll all come out sooner or later.

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                Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                
                
                That is true and it is possible that other players may have to go down with the ship.  Blago seems to be ready to take anyone he can down with him OR there will be a plea bargain and everyone will walk away whistling "The Night Chicago Died"

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                   woolman60posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   You people really want Obama to fail, get a life, why don't you talk about how big business screwed up this nation and how the insurance companies and hospitals own us, this is the problem with America, point the finger where it belongs and stop blaming Obama for your misguided thoughts,
                   and "Fox News", forget them too.

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                      Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      
                      
                      Where in my comment you responded to do you see the mention of Obama.  You people?  I have misguided thoughts? 
                      
                      I cannot post in the forums what my misguided thoughts feel about YOU PEOPLE!

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    Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago

    What is interesting is Patti Blagovich appeared on a reality show where she was put in the jungle.
    
    Rod Blago was just fired from the Donald Trump celebrity apprentice.
    
    This guy is facing serious charges and he is appearing on a reality show?
    
    Did anyone see him on the show?  The guy didn't seem qualified to run a 7/11 convenience store never mind a State.
    
    How did he even get elected in the first place?
    
    I don't trust the Tiny Dancer Emanuel at all.

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       Sab Ohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       "How did he even get elected in the first place?"
       
       
       It's Chicago. All sorts of people from there get put in positions for which  they are completely unqualified.

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    Harvey Stelmanposted 13 years ago

    How could he lie, it's Chicago?

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