The corupt Illinious governer.
- sandra rinckposted 15 years ago
0 Obama is a successful politician. To be a successful politician, you need to be corrupt. The failures are the honest ones
It is the way the system works and is set up to continue working.
Anyone who believes otherwise is fooling themselves. He has already made it clear that the "changes" he was promising will have to wait.
About 4 years would be my guess.......Why Sandy, are you suggesting Mark is corrupt enough to be a successful American politician?
No, just more honest.
Cause people like Mark don't go there
Those who try either change or fail... Did anybody say change?
But why does this matter? Your life is your business, not anybody else's. And good or bad president can't make you happy or unhappy - only you yourself has the power
Well I think that is a little bit of bullsh*t. I could tell ya I would be a heck of a lot happier if it was for being rated by a number listed under my social security number that denies my right to have a home or rent one for that matter.
A good president could do away with classifying people by how much money they have and give people some "real" equal rights, not just a few who can afford it.
A good president could see that a person "goodness" is not judged by their shortcoming via, losing a job to pay for their mortgage or getting credit cards to pay the bills and feed the family.
I could totally be a lot happier if the one who runs this shithole called America would do something about the amout of crap that trickles it's way down to screw 98% of America while giving perks and money and a good living to those who don't give two shits about the hard working people who slave day and night just to make ends meet.
sometimes I wish I was a foreigner because foreigners get more benifits than the citizens do. Maybe it is different out thier in virginia but in California, Mexican's are allowed more benifits than a person born and raised in the good ole USA.
Yeah, I can be happy, I have that power but be real, how happy can a person be knowing that having a roof over their head and thier kids is not a guarantee?
I was homeless last year for the same political bullshit that hit the fan when my ex lost his job out of the blue after the government withdrew our few pennies from the bank without our knowledge, garnished my ex's wages and then fired him all in the same month.
And what is worse, they did it all for their "$500.00" fuc*ing dollars that they surely did not need to take from us knowing that that was all we had and that that money was for the rent.
$500.00 dollars!!!! You really think it is fair to make someone homeless over this amount of money that they just don't need for things we never supported?
I love ya Misha, but we see things from a totally different perspective when it comes to things like this.Sandy,
I know it is hard. But ask your God, the one that rightly kicks everybody's ass. I bet he will answer something along the line - it's all in YOUR mind Sandy, it is all how YOU choose to look at it.
World is not fair despite of what you've been brainwashed into. Period. Live with that and choose to be happy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjnvSQuv-H4
I wish Jenny or Jewels will chime in here and say it in more comprehendable terms
Well for a start, I am not a natural born American.....
But even in my own country, the things I would want to do would not be very popular with the powers-that-be.
Like investing in renewable energy, taxing the petrochemical and pharmaceuticals into extinction, building a state owned public transport system that worked and allowing the car makers to fold, and rewarding those that I would consider to be worth rewarding like the teachers and the nurses instead of the bankers and the financiers and the footballers. Hah ! Fat chance.....
And even if I could, there would be too many opportunities for this not to work. And too many inducements to allow any but the most determined to continue.
It is not just the USA. There are riots in Greece, protests in England and China as we speak.
The machine will crush them. As it always does - until such times as the people rise up en-masse - and replace it with the same thing......
You want change in America, you are going to have to revolt.
If Barack Obama makes one single, significant change I will eat my shoes. With relish.
A few weeks ago, every one was all excited that there was an "African American," elected. You think if he would have made any changes, he would have been allowed any where near the White house?
I would be shot, or die in my sleep before getting any where near any sort of power.The natives are revolting
The GoonsLOL Sandy, told ya we need Jenny or Jewels for this
I did not mean to say that it all that happens only in your head. I was saying that your personal happiness depends ONLY on how you comprehend and interpret what happens around you. On your perception of the events, not on the events themselves.
Love yaI know what you mean Misha, at home I am happy, well except for Fridays, lol.
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
Jeez, guys. Are you all really THAT cynical?
It is possible to live in the same state and not be corrupt. And Obama's aide is to be commended for not wanting to have anything to do with the schemes of the governor and sticking with her old boss.
And looking at it in a very, very cynical, Machiavellian way, even, what the heck would Obama or his people gain by associating with this governor clown?
You are right, Misha--people make their own outlooks.... I must be following you around! - Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
I don't put my hope in any politician either, but Lita is right about the power of education the the autority of the people if they "chose" to take it instead of allowing someone else to cannot possibly do everything him/herself to do it.
Ask most American's and they will tell you that there isn't anything they could do even if they tried to do something. The sorriest part about the statement is that they have never even tried.
Some government is good, too much authority in any one place or to any one person is bad.
The French revolution
The Russian revolution
The Luddites
The Cornish tin miners
The American revolution (war of independence)
The Boer war
Christianity
The unions
No, never tried beforeI was actually talking about a world unity to establish the abolishment of corrupted interest via withdrawling monies from any over invested interest of one or a few people.
I was actually talking about removing the money flow from the hands of the elite so that they cannot have the power to rule and by weapons and spend the money on costly wars that don't do anything but cause more war and destroy innocent lives in the meantime so they can snuggle up in their bedrooms that are larger then most homes.
I wasn't talking about a revolution in which the people just got their weapons and established an anit-authority revolt that leads to the shedding of more blood.
Sorry, I aint a warmonger either.Well, how are you going to take it from them then?
I have been saying -
Stop spending money on crap and go out side and play too you knowI do know this, it's part of the reason I listed you as one of my personal heroes!
The plan is to stop paying them. Stop using the banks, put a dead stop to paying credit card debt no matter how little or much you owe, stop buying product from Union markets or as you like to put it, China crap.
Use cash, buy a little, downsize, use your legs etc...
And I am not affraid to stop paying for it because I know that most the people with credit card debt had already paid their dues a long time ago. I know that bids by these institutions were made using money they don't have and never had to begin with and that we are being double taxed in the sneakiest of ways.
I know that Banks like to also squander your pennies from nickle and diming charging late fees on debts they tack on without your consent. And I know that the technology for clean buning motor vehicals has been around since the first car was ever produced.
All they want is money, so f**k um. I also figure that if everyone decided to jump on the wagon that "credit" would become obsolete.
Of course this theory has some kinks but I know first thing is first, stopy buying it and stop paying for it.I have done this. I try and persuade everyone I know to do this.
I am one. Little. Does it really matter if I do it?
No.
But - if everyone does it....
Then what? We will be forced to spend money? No.
But - this will result in a war. A war for consumers.
Just wait until China loses all the consumers that buy their plastic crap. This is as good as declaring war on them.
And thank you for the compliment.Well, I don't know. I am one too, so that makes two. Double a penny everyday! It's already a war.
Either way, I will keep suggesting and doing what I suggest, maybe it will gain popularity in the meantime. What would happen next would be dealt with next.
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
Sorry girls, it's all illusions. Honest politician is oxymoron. The trick is to accept them as they are, to not expect them to do honest things
You can call it cynical of course, but it is as much cynical as expecting a body to fall down, not upSandy, you keep asking the question - "How can I change the World to fit me?". This question never leads to happiness. If you want to become happy, the question should be: "How can I change myself to fit the World?"
Sorry Mish, already done that long enough. I shouldn't have to change myself anymore just to fit into the world it's what got me down to begin with! Work that one out will ya Mish.
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
Lita,
I don't know about universal health care coverage - I was not in the USA at that time. However, I did have a fascinating experience of watching honest people becoming politicians in the new Russia after the collapse of USSR. NOT A SINGLE ONE STAYED HONEST. Those who stayed became corrupt. Those who stayed honest did not stay...
You can argue of course that this is Russian specific and Americans are different. I used to think along those lines, too. Almost 10 years in the USA changed my mind. I am sure now politicians are the same all over the world
All are corrupt - meaning they leverage their positions for personal benefits...
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
I never said anything about fear. I am not afraid. I am not anywhere near influential enough to be afraid yet. I only get about 250,000 page views a month on what I write.
But, please do share what you have done.....
Isn't that funny that a bunch of old men take one position, and a bunch of young women - the opposite one?
Give it time..
I thought like that once. If only I could have known then what I know now.
The age old refrain.
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
BTW, I'm a gen X-er approaching middle age. Not that young,
lol... This photo (an id photo) is me at 36! - Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
Yaaaay, Ralph!
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
I don't know no Zin or Chompsky, they did not teach that stuff back in USSR
Actually I know this quote for quite some time, and never took it literally. For me it sounds something like:
Yes, this World is unfair, and it is perfectly OK to see this unfairness and try to change the World to the better when you are still young. When you get older however, you should start to understand and accept that this is the way this World is, and trying to change it is about as efficient as trying to fill the upside down bucket with water from beneath, no matter how hard you try... You get all wet and mess everything around, and the bucket is still empty...Do you mean Noam Chomsky? Noam Chompsky sounds like a muppet
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
CW, I intentionally never say "we have" or "you must" or anything else along these lines
I believe everybody are free to think and act as they deem appropriate, for their own reasons. All what I was saying is that based on my knowledge of human psychology and life experience to date, the only possible way to happiness is to accept the environment as it is. You can't get happy if you don't do thisSomething happens when people get old, they give in and give up and discourage people like me from trying to 'change the world'. I do know that what is good for some is not good for everyone, but listen up old man, lol, sorry- love you, but this is more my world now than it is yours because you had your time, you had your chance and you will be leaving it to us, and when I am old I will be leaving it to our kids, and your kids.
So, like Lita said, she is more like a democratic liberaltarian. It's seems that everyone is but the ones the persist win.
Unfortunately, from Jenny's quote, what you resist persist only works on a spiritual level. In reality, I have to resist what persist because what persist today is only going to make things worse.
I could fill an upside down bucket with water. Bet me a billion dollars I can't.LOL Us old farts are really just trying to change the world in our own way, probably a bit more efficient than yours - passing bits of our experience to you youngsters, so you could learn at least something from our mistakes, not your own ones
I am not sure what democratic libertarian means, and I am not a big fan of labels, so I just left it alone
I think you will benefit if you meditate on Jenny's quote as often as you can - it is not about spiritual level, it is about how this world works
And come on, I am sure you understood what I was trying to say by the bucket metaphor
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
lol! Lita, Rand is all over the COMMENTS on my hubs. I'm not sure why. I really, really, really don't like Ayn Rand's ideas or her work. I think her writing is bad and her philosophy (if you can call it that) is even worse than her writing. When people tell me to read Ayn Rand because it will just change my whole life I cringe. It's like when people tell me I can get rich by selling Amway or Mary Kay. It's on that same level and exactly that uncomfortable, especially if I like the person. It's like they just told me they wear edible underwear or something else I don't really want to know about them--TMI TMI TMI!!!!! LOL!
Oh, and from an OLD woman (to counterbalance all the young noncyncial women)--I say it's possible to have corrupt politicians and honest politicians. 'Honest politician' is not an oxymoron, it's just a rarity. Politics is a game you know. The line between playing politics and going criminal can get blurred but we know when someone has crossed it.
I still like Obama. I'm building a little shrine in my living room.
LOL CW, I don't know no Ayn Rand either
Actually, if you want the book that influenced my worldview the most, it would be The Beads Game by Herman Hesse. (hope I did not mess the spelling)
Lita, talking about Georgia, I comprehend this as yet another spectacular failure of American foreign policy. If USA still had some sympathies in Russia, now they are mostly gone.
Russia occupied the Caucuses area by force a few hundred years ago, the only country that joined voluntarily was Georgia. Russia and Georgia never had any conflicts, Russian and Georgian cultures are united in so many ways one can't really tell where is one and where is another sometimes. Enough to say that Stalin was georgian.
And now USA installed this idiot Saakashvili, and made him thinking American troops would support him if he starts the war with Russia...- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
wow snap! Thanks for the promotion countrywomen! Misha wont say it but, he is totally into himself.
He knows he is "hawt".Milla- We all know he is "hawt" and also has lots of fans due to this. Btw he isn't giving you any credit and hence I thought I should include you too.
Check this out: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/9904?page=2I saw that, it doesn't bother me. My goal was for Misha and his rising career in the modeling industry. I really appreciate your love though! It does feel good to be remembered every once in a while.
We all need a few positives to look forward to in these times of negatives all around.Thanks for launching Misha's career. I guess Misha's services can be used by the BIG 3 cars makers to boost their sales.
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
Misha--
I will check him out. I've heard him bantered about enough. I should read him... - Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
CW-Yah, I saw the real 'hawt' lipstick shot once before....OMG..... Soho, no less, lol.
Well, I imagine by the time your cousin is my age, she actually could be a Grandma, technically, at that rate,... But I'd say--aim for respect--an equilibrium. TMG- Hope you are not disappointed with the family talk. I guess we women were not idle even if we were not "ideal".
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
Just as a matter of technicality Obama was a senator (Not mayor/governor)
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
Lita- Come on Misha is a cutie(Friendly reminder in case the memory of the "hawt lipstick" has evaporated).
I guess I read it when everything about USA was right and its life as we saw it in movies & TV serials influenced our perceptions. I have never read her works beyond those two books hence not an authority by any stretch of imagination. I guess she is like one of those people either you adore her or disdain her. I guess now I am neutral and all the emotions I am talking about have long died out during my first few months in US.
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
Lita- Even if Misha doesn't get a POINT but if you APPOINT him as a model then he will not DISAPPOINT
Thanks for that compliment
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
We all do need a laugh out of our regular normal existence and I hope Misha is sportive enough when we are taking far too many liberties at his expense
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
I know he is very smart but that "hawt lipstick" has gone on for a while and felt maybe it was a bit too much. I don't know I read a little bit of headlines in google news to know what's going on but some how economy, politics, sports aren't something I really enjoy reading. As they say love me or hate me but spare me the indifference (I guess some people may thrive on being popular)
- Leta Sposted 15 years ago0
Awwww girls, you made me seriously blush
Thank you !
Pam,
I am gladly believing you - but does it matter? I've seen quite a few honest people who became politicians, as I mentioned earlier in this thread. Neither of them became an honest politician - invariably they either stayed honest, or stayed politicians... That's the name of the game, and professional requirementFirst off I do not command anyone, you are so silly
. However, your post to me is slightly commanding and speaking down to me. My aunt worked in the law field and I think there are more dishonest lawyers than politicians any day. Ironically many lawyers become politicians. By the way, our city is dedicated to preserving the national preserve because the local university backed it, not because they were paid off by local developers. I am an intelligent lady that does my research you know . Also, it is wrong if a businessman promotes his lover with few qualifications over people who were more qualified for a job, that almost a form of nepotism. The girl even bragged about it. It was only any example of corruption in all fields. However, I know my points are valid and sound, and I will always feel I can share them.Actually I like to be silly
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