What Is Evil About The Tides Foundation?

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  1. leeberttea profile image55
    leebertteaposted 8 years ago

    http://activistcash.com/organization_ov … des-center

    It's a money laundering operation for rich progressives that don't want people to know what they are supporting. This raises questions like why? Why are these people afraid to be seen as supporting progressive ideals?

    1. William R. Wilson profile image60
      William R. Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ah, so the Tides foundation really is evil.  Guess that guy was right for trying to go massacre some folks out there.  Too bad the cops got to him first.

      1. ledefensetech profile image68
        ledefensetechposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        He was no more right to shoot up cops than the Black Panthers were to intimidate voters or talk about killing cracker babies.  A biblical quote comes to mind:  "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." Matthew 7:5

        I'm rather partial to the King James version of that passage.

        1. William R. Wilson profile image60
          William R. Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Good advice.

          1. ledefensetech profile image68
            ledefensetechposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Well if you were wondering how rich people screw poor people over, this is the way they do it, at least in the modern world.  That whole Guttenberg press and gunpowder really put the kibosh on the ancien regime.  So the new aristocrats have to be a little more circumspect as to how they go about screwing people.  They have to do things like, oh I don't know, suppress data that shows global warming to be a hoax.  Stuff like that.

            1. William R. Wilson profile image60
              William R. Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Yes, or pay people like Fox News to misreport the facts.

              1. Jim Hunter profile image60
                Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Do you have proof of that?

                Or is it just part of the overall game plan?

                1. William R. Wilson profile image60
                  William R. Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Why don't you ask LE if he has proof that global warming is a hoax?  LOL.

                  1. William R. Wilson profile image60
                    William R. Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    I mean, gosh, they sure do have all those climate scientists fooled.  Must be a lot of work to fool people who study climate into thinking that the climate is changing...

                  2. Arthur Fontes profile image84
                    Arthur Fontesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    I can prove global warming is a reality.

                    At one time scientists tell us the earth was almost covered with ice.  As far as I can tell that is no longer the case, thus the earth must have gotten warmer?

                    Man made global warming is a hoax!

                  3. Jim Hunter profile image60
                    Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    I don't need to ask him how he knows global warming is a hoax.

                    Do you have proof that fox news is misreporting the news because they are being paid to do so?

        2. Kimberly Bunch profile image60
          Kimberly Bunchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I like that passage too. It is one of my favorites.

          big_smile

      2. Jim Hunter profile image60
        Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Nothing like going to the extreme.

        1. William R. Wilson profile image60
          William R. Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, like calling a foundation "evil." 

          Nothing like it.

          1. Jim Hunter profile image60
            Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Nobody called it evil.

            1. William R. Wilson profile image60
              William R. Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Look at the title of the post.

              1. Jim Hunter profile image60
                Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                I did.

                Nobody called it evil.

                1. William R. Wilson profile image60
                  William R. Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Lol.  You're better than Sad Ho.

                  1. Jim Hunter profile image60
                    Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Why are you calling Sab oh names?

                2. psycheskinner profile image84
                  psycheskinnerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  The first post asks for clarification about what kind of evil it is, the second one outright calls it evil.

    2. Maddie Ruud profile image76
      Maddie Ruudposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That's funny.  The site you point to is run by the "Center for Consumer Freedom" which clearly states on its site: "Many of the companies and individuals who support the Center financially have indicated that they want anonymity as contributors."

      How is that any different???

      1. ledefensetech profile image68
        ledefensetechposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        It's a group that seeks to protect themselves from government intrusion into their business.  They seem to oppose legislation that would ban "bad food".  I can't say that I'm surprised to see something like that form against the people who want to restrict what you can and can't eat.  Choosing to live an unhealthy lifestyle is, after all, a choice and people will find a way to indulge in their vice, if that's what they want to do.

        So that's how they're different from the Tides Foundation.

        1. Maddie Ruud profile image76
          Maddie Ruudposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I think you missed my point.  Oh well.

          1. ledefensetech profile image68
            ledefensetechposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            No your point was supposedly the fact that the Center for Consumer Freedom takes money from shadowy sources, which it would seem the Tides Foundation does as well.  The difference lies in the aims of the two organizations.  The CCF wants to protect its affiliated businesses from the intrusion of people who want control over what people eat in the US.  The Tides Foundation wants to promote social justice, whatever that is supposed to mean.  Big difference between the two.

            1. Flightkeeper profile image71
              Flightkeeperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Well if the KKK and any Aryan groups ever raised money from shadowy sources, it's comforting to know that people won't see it as any different from any other organization! lol

            2. William R. Wilson profile image60
              William R. Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              So the end justifies the means, in other words.

            3. Maddie Ruud profile image76
              Maddie Ruudposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Wait, so freedom to eat what you want is a bigger and better cause than freedom to live as you want?  Wow.  Don't see that, at all.

              1. ledefensetech profile image68
                ledefensetechposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Eating what you want is part and parcel of living how you want.  What gives you or anyone else the right to legislate what and how much I can eat?

        2. William R. Wilson profile image60
          William R. Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I don't quite see the difference LE.  Maddie wins.

      2. William R. Wilson profile image60
        William R. Wilsonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        So wishing we had a like button.  big_smile

    3. Ralph Deeds profile image67
      Ralph Deedsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You mean like the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Foundation? Not to mention the FreedomForum or whatever Dick Armey calls his right wing group that's been supporting the Tea Party.

  2. ledefensetech profile image68
    ledefensetechposted 8 years ago

    Ralph I don't necessarily agree that global warming is human caused.  That doesn't mean I'm not open to the idea that temperatures change over time.  I don't believe we can control those things and since we can't we're better off exploring mitigation strategies rather than screaming at one another until we're blue in the face.  I, personally, think we're headed to a cooling phase which could occur within a decade.  If we're going to prepare, we need to start looking at what to do now.  Or, more in keeping with my libertarian leanings, stop trying to control the debate and encourage people to think about how a cooling or warming event will impact them.  Then, at least, if one of us is right, people won't be running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

  3. ledefensetech profile image68
    ledefensetechposted 8 years ago

    Consumers came into vogue after WW II to describe the new Keynesian economic order.  Keynes is notorious for disregarding people and resorting to pure numbers.  Economics is about people and the decisions they make, not aggregate demand and other Keynesian nonsense. 

    Yes and I suppose the dumping happens in brown communities like our Green Czar claimed.  If we respected property rights in this country anyone who had sludge dumped on their property could go after the polluter with hammer and tongs.

    If you're so concerned about the gasoline problem, perhaps your time would be better spent developing an alternative source that produces as much energy, preferably more, at the same cost, preferably lower, than oil and you'll have changed the world.  Any other sort of remedy will make things worse.  Need I remind you of MTBE?  It was created after car manufacturers were forced to use catalytic converters to treat exhaust.  Current leaded gasoline did bad tings to the catalytic converter so an alternative needed to be found.  Oops.  Now the oil companies are on the hook for something that was forced on the industry by legislation.  Hmm.  Shades of the CRA there.

 
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