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Do Jewish people run the Western World?

  1. Jefsaid profile image60
    Jefsaidposted 6 years ago

    Firstly, I have nothing against Jewish people. It just appears to me that at the very highest political and economic levels in Europe and America, Jewish people are prominent. A state was uniquely created for its people and religiously they are at the root of the West's biblical roots. Has the Jewish denomination been the historical leaders of the West?

    1. Onusonus profile image86
      Onusonusposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      As a Jewish rooted representative of the Jewish population in the great North West, I can only account for my status as low man on the totem pole at my place of business.
      American socioty has also gone so far as to engraining us with idiomatic expressions rooted in Native American culture. Common phrases such as "Totem pole" and the like........
      But I'm ok with that because I'm also part Native American.

      1. Jefsaid profile image60
        Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Well said!

        1. Onusonus profile image86
          Onusonusposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Thanks, Now if you will excuse me I have to finish my great gramma's famous bratwurst concoction, practice some river dance, and pick up my wife's cloggs from the cobbler before tea time. (I mean Tee time. You know, golf, Cause I'm part Scott too.)
          Досвыданя!

          1. Jefsaid profile image60
            Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            lol

  2. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    I don't think there's any doubt about it.



    http://judaism.about.com/od/culture/a/contribution.htm

    1. Jefsaid profile image60
      Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Why do you think Jewish people have been so successful?

  3. Evan G Rogers profile image77
    Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago

    nope

  4. Ralph Deeds profile image71
    Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago

    The Jewish people have been successful, but they don't come close to "running the western world." Until Kennedy every U.S. president had been a Protestant Christian, mostly Episcopalians. If my recollection is right, there was only one Jewish Prime Minister of the UK--Disraeli. I'll check that. According to Wikipedia Benjamin Disraeli was born into a Jewish family but his father had him baptized in the Anglican (Episcopal)Church at age 12, presumably in order to make it easier for him to become successful in a society where anti-Semitism was rampant.

    1. Jefsaid profile image60
      Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      It's not so much Prime Ministers or Presidents but people like bankers and others who really run the World.  Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism and how do you regard the creation of a Jewish state.  No other denomination has been so privileged.

      1. bgamall profile image84
        bgamallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Banksters run the world. Some of them are descendents of Jews but not necessarily Jewish. Some are of other races and religions. Some are big oil men who are not Jewish.

        All races have been screwed by these leaders, including Jews and others. My natural father was Jewish and I was adopted at age 3 months. It is my view that to argue against the banksters in a racist way is both wrong and defeats the argument.

        1. Jefsaid profile image60
          Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I am not being racist, I am just looking at the historical facts.  I have known about racism believe me. mad

          1. bgamall profile image84
            bgamallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I understand. It is just that a lot of people call other people Jewish when they are actually Jewish descendants who are atheists/agnostics. For example, the father of the neocons, who taught that the masses could be lied to by the elite, was Leo Strauss. His parents were Jewish. He was a Zionists but not Jewish.

            He believed that you keep the shell of democracy and lie to the masses. His most famous pupil was Paul Wolfowitz, who cooked up the lie of WMD to invade Iraq, who he said was "swimming in oil".

            1. uncorrectedvision profile image59
              uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              When will people finally let go to the "Bush lied, People Died," garbage.  Your hero Julian Assange disagrees with you.

              http://www.weeklyblitz.net/1061/wikilea … ats-remain

              1. bgamall profile image84
                bgamallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Oh please, everyone knew he had chemical weapons. But you know what I am talking about, Condi Rice warning and scaring everyone about the "mushroom cloud". There were no serious biological and certainly no nuclear weapons.

                Get all the facts:

                Bush most likely was also involved in 911, the murder of his own citizens. I guess you never heard the story of the Taliban going to Texas in December of 1997 in order to be schmoozed into allowing Unocal to build a pipeline. That pipeline was to Halliburton investments in the Caspian Sea: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm

                Of course, when the pipeline was rejected, it gave Cheney, CEO of Halliburton, motive for 911 and the invasion of Afghanistan. Add to this the fact that PNAC neocons, with Cheney as a member, put the need for a new Pearl Harbor on the website in 2000, and you see that Cheney had both motive and knowledge of 911 beforehand.

                Cheney and Bush are cold blooded killers.

        2. Ralph Deeds profile image71
          Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Agreed. I smell a whiff of anti-Semitism in this thread.

          1. Jefsaid profile image60
            Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Why do you perceive that a thread about the virtues of the Jewish denomination should be regarded as anti-semitic.  There are many adverse views held about black people of which I am one that I am always keen to debate rather than throw down the prejudice card.

            1. Ralph Deeds profile image71
              Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Well, alleged control and secrecy attributed to Jews has been a recurrent anti-Semitic theme from time immemorial. It might be likened to praising the athletic superiority of blacks, leaving the unstated implication that they are deficient in other respects.

              1. Jefsaid profile image60
                Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Again this is obviously a sensitivity of yours...  I am sorry if you feel offended

              2. Jefsaid profile image60
                Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I am aware of how Black people are commonly perceived and understand why that is so.  But that is another thead down the line altogether that will probably be just as emotive.

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      ryankettposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      The current leader of the opposition in the UK is Jewish:

      http://radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/britain/David_Miliband_skullcap_visit_Israel.jpg

      Not that this detracts from your point, but you may have been interested nonetheless. He and his brother, who contested the Labour party leadership against him, are the sons of the late Ralph Miliband - a famous Marxist philosopher who fled the Nazi's.

      1. Jefsaid profile image60
        Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        This is my point considering that they make up such a small percentage of the World population...

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          ryankettposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Not really sure how I helped to make your point, Ralph Milliband was given asylum in the UK to escape the persecution of Jews in Belgium and his sons were subsequently born and raised in the UK.

          Ralph Milliband was an intellectual, gaining first class honours at UCL, and became a professor at Chicago. As a result his two sons were afforded a top education and they got into political theories, just like their dad. They are two British born men with intellect running through their veins, their genes even, and as a result are respected politically.

          I doubt that either Millibands are anything like the typical Zionist American Jew who wants to see Israel starve Palistinian children. There are 350,000 jews in the UK, not many, but they tend to be very clever people.

          1. Jefsaid profile image60
            Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Well there are a lot of clever people in every culture.  I do not suggest that Jewish people are any smarter.  However, they seem to possess a different perspective on life that has been succesful and have a comparatively large percentage of people in high places.

            1. AnnCee profile image70
              AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              The Jews call themselves "the People of the Book" and education is important to them.   They have been so reviled in the past two thousand years that they have had to develop unique social skills in order to survive.

              Do you know that for hundreds of years in Europe the Jewish populations lived in fenced off ghettos.   Every time a new Pope was elected Jewish representatives would approach the Pope asking for more freedom.  Some Popes clamped down harder, some lightened up.



              http://www.nobeliefs.com/ChurchesWWII.htm

      2. superwags profile image80
        superwagsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        He isn't the leader of the opposition in the UK! His brother is!

        Also, he's about as Jewish as a bacon sandwich!

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          ShortStoryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          mmmmmm....bacon.....

        2. uncorrectedvision profile image59
          uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Yum, bacon...what were we talking about?

    3. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image90
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      But being President or Prime Minister is the figurehead of power, a very noteworthy man once had this to say,

      "Let me issue and control a nation's currency, and I care not who writes it's laws."

  5. Cagsil profile image59
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    A better question- What is considered the "western" World? lol

    1. Jefsaid profile image60
      Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Europe and North America predominantly.

      1. Cagsil profile image59
        Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Then, if that is the case, I would have to agree with others and say No.

        Jewish people do not run the Western World, but as to why they are successful? They understand the fundamental knowledge of money, how to earn it and how to spend it.

        Other than that- they run nothing.

        1. Jefsaid profile image60
          Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          You might like to look at the below link:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_Jews

          1. Cagsil profile image59
            Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            lol

        2. uncorrectedvision profile image59
          uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Isn't that, in and of itself, a stereotype of Jews?  Perhaps the emphasis on virtue is why Jews are successful?  Like the virtues of prudence, modesty, moderation, industry, etc....  Perhaps it is because Jews were persecuted everywhere in the world since the Diaspora that it was necessary to make oneself as valuable to society as possible to avoid the pogrom, the Gulag, the Ghetto, the Inquisition or the Death Camp.

          1. bgamall profile image84
            bgamallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I have argued many times that being a Jew and being a descendant of Jews is not the same. Descendants of Jews may or may not have a moral code. It would seem that many did not, just like in any other race.

            1. kephrira profile image59
              kephriraposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I think this has a lot to do with the problems Jews have had - that the term 'Jewish' refers to both a religion and a race, which makes the Jewish religion a little bit racist, and seeds distrust in other people who see racial conspiracy instead of religious community.

              People need to decide whether being Jewish is a racial or religious thing, and if it is religious, then people who are decended from Jewish people need to stop calling themselves Jews before they can expect other people to make that distinction.

              1. bgamall profile image84
                bgamallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                It is a process of education. I think that Strauss saw himself as an atheist, and therefore not Jewish, although he was a Zionist. http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/spengl … f-judaism/

                This is a crucial distinction. Most of the founders of Israel were not practicing Jews, but rather were atheistic bolsheviks.

                1. lovemychris profile image80
                  lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Exactly--they are a thug group who took over. Look who opposes the Likud gvt....Rabbi's!!!

          2. Jefsaid profile image60
            Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            If you actually take on board my point, it is their succesful virtues that I am raising.  Certainly from a historical point of view particularly around religion and its history, you may find me a bit more critical based on my views on this subject generally.  As for a sterotype where does it begin and end.  On the one side it is OK to talk about their persecution and the holocuast which was a terrible episode in history almost comparable to the slavery of Africans and apartheid.   Yet on the other side, we should not mention the success and influences they have had on the World..?

            1. AnnCee profile image70
              AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              As any fool can plainly see, the Jews have had a unique influence in the world.   Only a complete mumpsimus would contest that. 

              They are .02% of the world population for crying out loud.

              They own world banking and media.

              Baron Nathan Mayer Rothschild: "I care not what puppet is placed on
              the throne of England to rule the Empire, ...
              The man that controls Britain's money
              supply controls the British Empire.
              And I control the money supply."
               

              Unfortunately many Jews are also Communists.  Do they own education in the US also?   Not so sure if its Jewish Communists or thug unions.  Do Jews own the unions?  Don't know.  One thing is clear, parents don't control what their children are taught in public schools.

              1. bgamall profile image84
                bgamallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                You are wrong. Descendants of Jews may be communists. but it is a contradiction in terms to say a Jew is a communist. Jews by definition practice their religion. Communism is atheistic. I have argued above that Leo Strauss was an atheist and his parents were Jewish. He was a Zionist, but not a Jew.

                You don't make the distinction and you are being racist in not making the distinction. Jew is a term that refers to a religion. You make a racial issue out of a religious definition.

                I am a descendant of Jews but as for race, I am caucasian. You should know better than to make the term Jew into a race.

                1. AnnCee profile image70
                  AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I am also a descendant of Jews.  I am therefore racially a Jew although I have faith in Jesus Christ and my ancestors were Roman Catholic from the 1500's right up until my generation. 

                  I am subject to a type of cancer that only Jewish women get because genetically I am a Jew.  And I am very proud to be of the Jewish race I might add.

                  1. bgamall profile image84
                    bgamallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    There is no such thing as the Jewish race, Ann. I suppose you count Rahab as being part of a "Jewish race". Or how about the men of Nineva?

                    Jewish is a religious term, Ann. Please, you are doing damage to the ultimate judgement of an ethnic group some of whom practice Judaism and some of which have other beliefs.

                    There is an ethnic group made up of descendants of Jews, and I will go that far. But the race is caucasian. You know that.

            2. uncorrectedvision profile image59
              uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              And virtue is peculiar to Jews because?

  6. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago

    http://a1.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/2/e4887296255da66452fe5d36b366bf5c/m.jpg

    They used to

  7. uncorrectedvision profile image59
    uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago

    Do we actually still entertain this proto-Nazi thinking?

    1. Jefsaid profile image60
      Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I suggest this is your thinking..?

      1. Ralph Deeds profile image71
        Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Seems to me it's yours.

        1. Jefsaid profile image60
          Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I suspected this would be a sensitive topic but these are my honest views supported by much evidence to suggest that Jewish people have had a big influence on the Western World for better or for worse.  As a black man, I can assure you that there is no pro-Nazi in me.

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            ShortStoryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            A black man can't be anti-Semitic? Someone better tell Jesse.

            1. Jefsaid profile image60
              Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Cowboy - Where does anti-semitic come into it.  I referred to Nazi.  What is anti-semitic? I know this world is commonly thrown around as being anti-Jewish but I am completely non-religious and have  honestly never bothered to check out its true meaining.  I will look it up on Google so that I can better understand this type of accusation  Yee ha!.

  8. thirdmillenium profile image60
    thirdmilleniumposted 6 years ago

    I hate to introduce religion into this but weren't the Jews the chosen people?

  9. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    It always gets dangerous for Jewish people when they are perceived to run the world.  They have learned through hard experience to keep a low profile.  During the early days of the holocaust people knew what was happening to the Jews.  The owner of the New York Times, a Jew, chose to bury stories of the holocaust on like page 40 because he feared if people thought he was protesting for the Jews he would lose all credibility.  He didn't want his newspaper to be labeled a Jew rag.

    I have no doubt that the most powerful people in the world are Jews.  And they aren't all Zionists.  Some of them are positively anti-Israel.  Some of them are positively evil, like George Soros.

    I suppose we would all agree that media is a very important component of world control?

    Six Jewish Companies Own 96% of the World’s Media

    http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/03/1 … lds-media/

    Personally, I believe that the Jews are the people God chose to use in carrying out His plan for the salvation of those who choose to believe in Him.  The Bible doesn't say the Jews as a people are chosen for salvation.  It does say they are chosen God's purposes to fulfill.   I believe it.

    Nowhere do we see God in action more than in the the lives of the Jewish people.  The miracles that occurred during the wars against Israel  are amazing.

    1. Jefsaid profile image60
      Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I am absolutely non-religious i.e. I don't believe in it books written by man but there does seem to be a driving force behind the words of Jewish indoctrination.

    2. uncorrectedvision profile image59
      uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Is a Jewish Company one that hires only Jews or sells to and buys from only Jews?  Do you mean a company whose majority of stock holders are all Jews?  What is a Jewish company?  Does a broadly diversified Jewish company that owes an interest in an Iowa corporate hog far violate dietary laws?  If a Jewish company buys a building does it have to cut off the top five floors?  Does a Jewish multinational firm have Rabbis in every country to make sure everything is kosher?

      1. Jefsaid profile image60
        Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Company? I refer to individuals or maybe families who control things rather than their employees or clients big_smile

        1. uncorrectedvision profile image59
          uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          You mean a company whose whole board of directors is Jewish?  Or one whose President is Jewish?  Or majority of officers are Jewish?  Bill Gates didn't actually run Microsoft once it went public his Directors and stock holders did.  Even prior to that his partners were involved in operation.  The question presupposes conditions that are fanciful.  Perhaps we should be asking is what kind of people gain influence in Western Society?  Because, I would bet that there is a tiny cadre of Catholics, Anglicans, Presbyterians, Methodists, Baptists, etc... who exercise real influence on Western society.  Is there a vast monolithic Catholicism that exercises influence or is it individuals who do?  What makes those individuals unique?  Perhaps, again, it is an emphasis on virtues that result in those positions of influence apart from "Jewishness."

          1. uncorrectedvision profile image59
            uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Emmanuel Goldstein runs the world.

      2. AnnCee profile image70
        AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Companies controlled by a person who is Jewish.   

        I know that for many of these people their Jewishness may mean very little in terms of religion.  I'm talking about the Jewish race, not the Jewish religion.

        1. Ralph Deeds profile image71
          Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Jewish "race" as opposed to the Christian race, the Catholic race, the Protestant race or the Muslim race?

          1. uncorrectedvision profile image59
            uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Holy Crap! I am agreeing with you!?!?!

            1. Ralph Deeds profile image71
              Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              It's about time! Even a blind hog finds an acorn once in a while.

        2. Jefsaid profile image60
          Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          What is the Jewish race.  If such a thing exists then surely they would be what we now regard as Ethiopian?

  10. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    I suppose we would all agree that banking is an important aspect of world control?

    http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html

  11. billyaustindillon profile image69
    billyaustindillonposted 6 years ago

    And I thought the reptilians run the world - damn you learn something new everyday

    1. Jefsaid profile image60
      Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Are the reptilians in disguise?

  12. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    The Jewish race clearly superior.



    http://www.jinfo.org/Nobel_Prizes.html


    Facts are facts.

    1. uncorrectedvision profile image59
      uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      What is race?

      1. Jefsaid profile image60
        Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Good point.  This is not about race but rather a religious code.

      2. AnnCee profile image70
        AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        The Nazi geneticists had no trouble with the question.



        http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Jewish_a_r … z1FYLFlqmS

        1. Jefsaid profile image60
          Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          The Nazi geneticists regarded dark hair and brown eyes as belonging to an inferior race

          1. AnnCee profile image70
            AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            No, they were more specific.

            http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/Nuremberg_laws.jpg/800px-Nuremberg_laws.jpg

            1. Jefsaid profile image60
              Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              But there is no actual Jewish race unless, if you do not mind me saying, we refer to the original people that lived in today's Ethiopia. The Nazi's made their own decisions on how to classify race.

            2. uncorrectedvision profile image59
              uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              So we now rely on Nazis to define race.  It is such a  fallacious concept to begin with before adding Nazi madness to it.

              1. AnnCee profile image70
                AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I'll rely on the genome.  Are you against the concept of race?

                1. uncorrectedvision profile image59
                  uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Absolutely!  There were two varieties of horror in the Twentieth century one was the ruthless slaughter of people for ideological reasons and the other was for "racial purity."  Precisely why I despise Communism and Nazism.

                  1. AnnCee profile image70
                    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Do you think not saying the word will help the hatred go away?

  13. dutchman1951 profile image61
    dutchman1951posted 6 years ago

    A list of World Banking Centers in Order;

    not much here about Jews controling the Banks I'd say

    Ranking of the world's banking centers: here is a view of the world's top 15. Don't take the ranking too seriously. Have fun!

    Ranking/ City
    1 London
    2 New York
    3 Tokyo
    4 Singapore
    5 Paris
    6 Frankfurt
    7 Milan
    8 Madrid
    9 Geneva
    10 Osaka
    11 Zurich
    12 Brussels
    13 Chicago
    14 Barcelona
    15 Munich

    1. Jefsaid profile image60
      Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      But who runs the banks in these countries.  Here is a list I found of Jews that were in the Bush administration (I have not seen a more recent list):
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Elliott Abrams  Director of the National Security Council's Office for Democracy, Human Rights and International Operations
       
      Jeffrey Berkowitz (2005-2006)  White House Liaison to the Jewish Community and then office of presidential scheduling

      Stuart Bernstein  Ambassador to Denmark

      Brad Blakeman White House Director of Scheduling

      Josh Bolten (2006- )  Chief of Staff

      Nancy Brinker Ambassador to Hungary and then chief of protocol for the State Department

      Michael Chertoff Head of the Justice Department's criminal division

      Douglas Feith (2001-2005 ) Under Secretary of Defense for Policy

      Ari Fleischer (2001-2003) White House Press Secretary

      David Frum (2001-2002) Speechwriter

      Chris Gersten Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families at HHS

      Adam Goldman (2001-2003) White House Liaison to the Jewish Community

      Blake Gottesman President's personal aide

      Jeremy L. Katz (2007- )  White House Liaison to the Jewish Community

      Daniel Kurtzer (2001-2005)  Ambassador to Israel

      Frank Lavin  Ambassador to Singapore

      Jay Lefkowitz (2001-2004) Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of the Domestic Policy Council

      I. Lewis Libby (2001-2005)
      Chief of Staff to the Vice President

      Ken Mehlman White House Political Director

      John Miller Director, State Departement Office to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons

      Michael Mukasey (2007- )  Attorney General 

      Noam Neusner (2004-2005) White House Liaison to the Jewish Community

      Mel Sembler  Ambassador to Italy

      Martin Silverstein  Ambassador to Uruguay

      Cliff Sobel  Ambassador to the Netherlands

      Tevi Troy (2003-2004) White House Liaison to the Jewish Community

      Mark D. Weinberg  Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs

      Ron Weiser  Ambassador to Slovakia

      Paul Wolfowitz (2001-2005) Deputy Secretary of Defense

      Dov Zakheim (2001-2004) Undersecretary of Defense (Controller)

      Jay Zeidman (2006-2007)  White House Liaison to the Jewish Community

      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Sources: News reports, Republican Jewish Coalition

  14. optimus grimlock profile image51
    optimus grimlockposted 6 years ago

    in hollywood they sure do! If you dont believe me just ask harvey levin!

  15. Greek One profile image78
    Greek Oneposted 6 years ago

    As a Christian, I would like to add 4 thoughts, with no offense intended...

    1. This forum post is crap...

    2. The thinking behind it is crap

    3. That 'facts' supporting the arguements are crap...

    4. If certain Jewish people have risen to levels of prominance in certain industries, it is because (as in Hollywood), Jews had to enter industries in their early stages of development because non-Jews were bent on keeping them out of the established industries which they already ran (that is, went they weren't busy designing pogroms for their persecution and murder)

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Surely you mean "carp".

      1. Greek One profile image78
        Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        of course I do.... and please don't call me Shirley

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
          Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          OK Brenda

        2. AnnCee profile image70
          AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          ehh. . .   LOL smile

    2. Jefsaid profile image60
      Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Well I am a complete non-believer in religious clap-trap so I have no indoctrinated prejudice against one faith or the other.  I leave such discrimination to you religious folk.  I really don't fully understand why Jews should have been so persecuted,  I would argue that black people have suffered worse persecution and have experienced greater exlusion for a longer period of time.

  16. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    The problem I have is the amount of influence Israel has on our country!
    We have a Congress that sent a letter stating they would support Israel no matter what they do. We can never question their actions witout being labeled anti-semitic. And everybody is all gung-ho about Libya and their crimes, but they dismissed the Goldstone report about Israel's!

    I think Bibi is a thug. I don't want our tax dollars going to him.
    And it is a fact that the members of PNAC in our gvt were all dual citizens of Israel, and Zionists.

    Just WHO were they loyal to? Who are they loyal to now?
    Ross-Lethin?
    She has no compunction letting Americans starve, yet no one can touch Israel's foreign aid? How does this make sense?

    I think that many Repubs and Dems put Israel first, before America.
    That is how I feel about it!

    1. AnnCee profile image70
      AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Well I think America only exists for Israel and for no other reason.  That's the role we play in the drama, an important role and one we'd best not neglect.

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        What?

        If this is true, the whole idea of America is a lie.

        But I will say this:

        A German man went to prison for 7 years for simply questioning the facts about the Holocaust.

        Now, a designer is facing trial and possible 6 months in prison for making anti-semitic statements.

        Lieberman wants to make it illegal to question the Holocaust on college campuses.....

        It is very weird and disturbing, to say the least.

        And I'm not kidding...google Kosher Nostra...it is no lie.

  17. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    "I think that many Repubs and Dems put Israel first, before America. That is how I feel about it!" Just check out the votes like 287 to 3 every time. Who the three are is probably alloted by drawing straws so as to completely appear as the Mubarack elections in Egypt.

    1. AnnCee profile image70
      AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Even the anti-Israel administration has increased Israel's foreign aid this year.  Obviously there are reasons that outweigh Obama's personal animosity.

      1. Hugh Williamson profile image88
        Hugh Williamsonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        So which is it? Birthers claim he's secretly Arab, that he was brought up in Kenya (Huccabee) and now he's what...a secret rabbi?

        Oh, if we could only find the real birth certificate.

        lol

        1. Ralph Deeds profile image71
          Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Huckabee is a genial intellectual lightweight.

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    Home Girlposted 6 years ago

    Historically A Jew had to be bright and smart and have money to survive (sometimes even that did not help). But there are as in any nation smart jews and stupid  jews, beautiful jews and ugly jews, bankers, polititians and dumb unemployed alcoholics. As soon as you start dividing people by race, nationality, religion, it smells like a nazi-camp.
    Well, as somebody said already it is all complete "carp".

    1. Jefsaid profile image60
      Jefsaidposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Where does race come into it.  This is about how influential the followers of Judaism have been throughout history and particularly in the West.  Bringing up Nazi-camp always seems to be a cheap shot at playing the racism card.

  19. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago
    1. AnnCee profile image70
      AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      There is a Jewish race.

      1. bgamall profile image84
        bgamallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Still a tribe, not a race.

  20. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    "Do Jewish people run the Western World?" There is an argument about this. The US has the world empire. The Israelis claim they run the US. Who is using who? Whose got the world empire?

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      ShortStoryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      The US is no kind of 'empire.'

  21. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    Is there a world empire?   Some would say yes.

    http://globalistagenda.org/

    http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/87031a1906e8.jpg

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  22. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    You forgot Scull and Bones.

    1. uncorrectedvision profile image59
      uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      What about Emmanuel Goldstein?

  23. bgamall profile image84
    bgamallposted 6 years ago

    There is a new world financial order. I write about it. But it is not a political order, although sovereignty has suffered because of it. And it is not a benign or good order because the banksters scammed us with ponzi loans cooked up within the context of that new financial order at Basel 2 in 1998.

  24. profile image52
    ShortStoryposted 6 years ago

    I wonder if there is some kind of academy somewhere that keeps churning out loony conspiracy nuts.

    1. bgamall profile image84
      bgamallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Maybe you need to read what I write. If you have the courage you may actually learn something. Some of it is published on Business Insider as well. Henry Blodget doesn't think that I am a nut.

  25. Jefsaid profile image60
    Jefsaidposted 6 years ago

    Can I just say to everyone who have taken part in this forum so far that I have found your comments both interesting and enlightening.  I realised from the outset that it could be a sensitive subject and really appreciate that everyone has refrained from turning it into a negative debate.

    Thank you all for your input.

    1. bgamall profile image84
      bgamallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      YW, Jef.

  26. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    If you are a Jew and you are not a religious Jew does that make you less of a Jew?

    Are you even still a Jew?

    May one wake up one morning and say, "I am no longer a Jew."

    Will a Muslim buy it?

    Will the hatred go away?

    1. bgamall profile image84
      bgamallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      According to Alan Dershowitz, you are a Jew if you are a practicing Jew.

  27. uncorrectedvision profile image59
    uncorrectedvisionposted 6 years ago

    I know, congratulations. You should go buy a lottery ticket.  You finally got lucky.

 
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