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The Obama Doctrine

  1. lady_love158 profile image60
    lady_love158posted 6 years ago

    http://biggovernment.com/rlaurie/2011/0 … o-success/

    Lol!This is hilarious because it's sooo true!

  2. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    All politicians are for big government. Not just Obama.

    Again, you and your attack from one side to the other. It's obvious, you'd have it your way or the highway and that mentality is what put this country in it's position as it is now.

    You are not any better than politicians. I find that kind of sad in and of itself.

    1. literarychimp profile image61
      literarychimpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Have you a personality disorder???......Why these endless silly scare mongering posts. "O Obama is a socialist, big government is BAD," IS your mind so full of clich├ęs, can't you think for yourself, ...........and you are taking over the forum!!! If you thought more clearly and deeply your posts would show that.......

        .......The big small government thing is a sham...........1) If America was a democracy and the government really was controlled by people then big government would be a good thing...........

      I think you are taking the fig leaves away from one oppressor and fanning another,

      1. John Holden profile image59
        John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Cagsil or Lady Love??

      2. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Democracy is never a good thing. We are a republic.

        1. John Holden profile image59
          John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Why are you so intent on imposing it on everybody then?

        2. Cagsil profile image61
          Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          A democratic republic based on the power of the citizens is achievable and can run effectively, as well, as efficiently.

          If you cannot see that, then that would be a problem. The government operates in a specific capacity that is derived from the best interests of the citizenship.

          To create a more perfect union between citizenship and government, so as to avoid tyranny. Corruption is a problem.

        3. Ron Montgomery profile image60
          Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Yet another example of your hatred for our country's founding principles. 

          Just to change things up, please tell us what you hate about Antarctica and its inhabitants.  Your vast cesspool of hatred surely spills on the little socialist penguins too?

        4. literarychimp profile image61
          literarychimpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I actually owe you an apology too. I didn't mean to write such a blustering post.


          But still..........The tea Party????


          Democracy or Republic. Both are poorly defined terms, in Ireland for instance the terms are interchangeable. What are the difference according to you? The word democracy is used by both Republicans and Democrats very frequently.

      3. Cagsil profile image61
        Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        One would hope you were actually addressing the OP and not my post?

        Please do clarify. I wouldn't want to assume you've lost your mind.

        1. literarychimp profile image61
          literarychimpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Yes sorry, I clicked on your post by mistake, it was addressed to "lady love".

          1. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Okay, just checking. wink

      4. lovemychris profile image79
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        "I would argue that a murderer has more integrity than a slanderer, because the intention is clear: to destroy a life. Slander is also called character assassination, and although the intention is less clear, it is just as valid. So to all slandering cowards I say that you are not fooling anyone whose mind is still open, and those who cannot create are the ones who wish to destroy the ones who can."
        --Mark

      5. DTR0005 profile image81
        DTR0005posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yes.. she is touched...

      6. profile image0
        Texasbetaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        PR firms pay people like her to troll the forums and "attempt to control the online dialogue." Each post, and I mean every single one, is propaganda, with no substance, and usually posted using misinformation. She is a paid troll dude. You are essentially arguing with a paid liar. Don't waste your time.

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          Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          A paid liar?   That would moreso define the President's current Press Secretary and his predecessor Robert Gibbs.   Perhaps you could go call them out on the carpet, instead of trying to take away the free speech of a fellow hubber.

        2. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          So says the tin hat liberal media matters hit man blogging in his underwear from his mommy's basement! Lol!

  3. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Penguins are socialists?
    No wonder they can't fly! lol

    1. literarychimp profile image61
      literarychimpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      They can use fighter jets too though, to bomb other people who can't really fly...!!!

  4. JMHeller profile image70
    JMHellerposted 6 years ago

    I am a republican and, of course conservative. I have to say that I don't agree with criticizing our President the way we do. Even if he is a liberal Democrat. He was voted in fair and square. In a few short months we will get another chance to vote.

    I know it is cliche, but until you put yourself in his shoes...

    Have you seen what that office does to our Presidents? It seems like 4 years in office puts 20 years on them. Here is the deal, we are all Americans. With all of the crap going on in the Middle East we should be grateful we live in this Country. I do not agree with Obama's politics, but he is my President and I will support him. I did not vote for him before and I will not vote for him in the future. Again, he is our President and, I do not think it is fair to compare him with the likes of communist dictators.

    1. John Holden profile image59
      John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ah, the voice of reason! You won't last long lol

      Welcome.

    2. lovemychris profile image79
      lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I think I love you!!

    3. PrettyPanther profile image85
      PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You sound like my husband.  Welcome!  smile

    4. Jim Hunter profile image59
      Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "In a few short months we will get another chance to vote."

      Really?

      What will we be voting on in a few short months?

      1. JMHeller profile image70
        JMHellerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        If you follow politics Jim, the next presidential race has already started. The election is of course 20 months away to be exact. That to me is not very much time. I don't believe it is to other people as well. Hence the media already covering 2012 elections. Did you take that picture after you read my post? I did not mean to make you upset.

        1. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          The election can't come soon enogh and the ouster of Obama and the dems in the senate is critical to the survival of the American idea. We must return this country to the path of freedom and righteousness and purge the socialists from our midsts that wish to enslave and oppress us!

          1. Paraglider profile image88
            Paragliderposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Please explain exactly what you mean by 'purge the socialists from our midsts'.
            A campaign of political 'ethnic' cleansing perhaps?
            What a charitable person you are.

            1. lady_love158 profile image60
              lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Lol! Don't be ridiculous! We need to VOTE the evil out! For too long much of America has been apathetic, and too caught up in their own lives to be engaged with the process,  the real responsibility for maintaining our freedom, to become knowlegable with the issues and what the government is doing. This has allowed the socialists democrats to gain a foothold, to place their boot on the neck of liberty and impose their will against the wishes of the people. Now we must put a stop to it and we will! We will turn out in greater numbers than 2010 and we will oust this socialist progressive scum from our system!

              1. pisean282311 profile image52
                pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                evil no more governs usa...he is busy selling books and is retired...so how can one vote him out...he is already out...

              2. Paraglider profile image88
                Paragliderposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Yet yours is not the rhetoric of politics. It is the rhetoric of pogrom.
                It's just as well nobody takes you seriously smile

                1. lady_love158 profile image60
                  lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Ouch! That's harsh!

                  1. Paraglider profile image88
                    Paragliderposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Yet I was serious. If a public figure started spouting forth about 'purging' the country of a group of people there would be an outcry.
                    You can do it with impunity only because you have no influence.

          2. pisean282311 profile image52
            pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            righteousness?...lol lol

          3. Cagsil profile image61
            Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You would be lucky if you actually knew what the "American Idea" was to begin with.
            This I have a problem with. The path of freedom is good, yes there is no doubt- however, the path of righteousness? You can stick where the sun will never shine. That is just speech for "religious" rule, which is tantamount to tyranny. Which defeats freedoms. Keep religion to yourself and you'll learn to create less conflict in your life. Try to spread it or enforce it upon others is a violation of their rights.
            Purge? How do you suppose that would happen? Without setting America and IT's Idea, back 250 years? Reducing individual rights down to something that would be virtually non-existent? Last time I checked, that IS enslavement and by all accounts IS oppression.

        2. Jim Hunter profile image59
          Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Yes I did take the picture after reading your post.

          It was truly upsetting.

          I feel better now.

          Thank you.

          1. JMHeller profile image70
            JMHellerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            LOL... I was worried you would take that seriously. Good to see you have a sense of humor. Nice to meet you Jim!

            1. Jim Hunter profile image59
              Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              And you.

  5. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    JM Heller,
    It is a pleasure to have a reasonable voice here. You are so right about what the office does to our presidents. They deserve combat pay!
    Thank you for bringing a breath of fresh conservative air to our forums!
    MM

  6. Hugh Williamson profile image87
    Hugh Williamsonposted 6 years ago

    @JMHeller

    Great post & welcome.

  7. JMHeller profile image70
    JMHellerposted 6 years ago

    Thank you for the comments.

  8. BillyDRitchie profile image59
    BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago

    While Mr. Heller's presence on these forums is appreciated, it is a little disingenuous of our friends on the left to be so congratulatory on his sense of "reason" and "balance" when so many of them have been incredibly over the top in their criticisms and accusations against George W. Bush.

    I don't recall hearing many voices from the left saying "respect the President" when Bush was in office.....

    1. pisean282311 profile image52
      pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      for that Bush had to respect post of president...anyways bush was never popular president or respected president any where..he was feared because he lacked intellect and had top most post in the world...

      1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
        BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        See how quickly the left jumps to say "Well, Bush deserved it!"

        So much for respecting the office,.....

        1. pisean282311 profile image52
          pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          i think you didnt get it...bush because of his unique abilities could never get respect from any one in the world...he was feared off...all president/prime ministers of other countries feared him...he was sitting on top of deadliest military power...lacked sense of what that meant  and lacked intellect to understand what usa means to world...so obviously feared...obama on other hand is respected globally because he has got better sense of world than bush jr... no body disrespected clinton or bush sr and neither world disrespects obama.....only because he did iraq and he brought usa from no1 position to no2 in powerful country list  , ruined usa's economy, unfortunately bush cannot be forgotten...otherwise authors of history would love to forget him...

          1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
            BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I would respond to this if I could follow it for even a minute or two....I'm guessing English isn't your first language.....

    2. PrettyPanther profile image85
      PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      They did respect him.  Remember his nearly 80% approval rating following the attacks on 9/11?  We were ready to support him, but then he squandered that support with his arrogance, impulsiveness, and single-minded pursuit of the "war on terror" in Iraq. 

      Q: But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

      W: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.

    3. JMHeller profile image70
      JMHellerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No we did not, in fact the way they treated Bush was pretty $h!ty. So do we do the same to Obama? What good came will come out that? If you notice, the only person on the right not criticizing Obama is Bush! Why? Maybe he knows a few things that we don't. Things we will never know. To sit here calling each other names and pointing the finger is counter productive at best. Each party is at fault for the situation our country is in now. The best thing we can do is admit it, take responsibility for ourselves, and move forward.

      This is no different than my 4 and 6 year olds saying "I didn't do it, I didn't do you it"  We have children running this country. To say that one party is right or wrong is CHILDISH. We need to let our elected officials know that if they continue to act like babies and not do your jobs, YOUR FIRED! No crying, no complaining, YOUR GONE! 

      Does it bother anyone else that we are paying these people? We as Americans are perpetuating the problem by participating in their crap! If the arguing is going to stop, it has to start with us.

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Unfortunately one side IS right and it's not the dems! For 2 years we've done it their way and things aren't better and they're only getting worse! The dems refuse to admit their ideas and policies are a failure in fact they wont even take responsibility for them! They continue to blame Bush! They deserve the criticism yes they have even earned it!

        1. JMHeller profile image70
          JMHellerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          What are you doing Lady_Love to fix the problem? I understand your concern, but you are not helping. I am a republican and, I can't defend you! Don't you see a problem with that? I have read your profile and looked at your forums. Do you have a single thought of your own? You are reading and referring to tons of blogs. Where are yours? It is people like you that make us look bad. In fact if I was not sure, I would swear you had a seat in congress!

          I am not trying to pick on you Lady, I just call it like I see it.

          1. lady_love158 profile image60
            lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            What an I doing besides voting and spreading the trut h abou the left? I support grass roots organizations with my treasure write and call my representatives. What are you doing besides calling for compromise? What is the compromise for liberty?  Some liberty? How much liberty is enough? Who decides, a bipartisan commission? Frankly I'm not interested in compromise I'm looking for people of principles willing to fight for what's right no matter what I want leaders that actually take the oath of office to heart and will protect and defend the constitution from ALL enemies,  foreign and DOMESTIC not a bunch of party hacks willing to compromise and pass unconstitutional laws in the name of progress or to appear as if they are doing something useful.

            1. JMHeller profile image70
              JMHellerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              How has that been working out for you? Stomping your feet screaming "I want an umpa lumpa now daddy!"  will only turn people off and, it certainly will not get you what you want. Again, we are all Americans are we not? The only way to solve these problems is to compromise. I don't like it, but that is the way it is.

              1. lady_love158 profile image60
                lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                And what has compromise got us? No thanks! There is NO compromise for freedom!

                1. lovemychris profile image79
                  lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Unless you're a woman. Then your body belongs to the state.

  9. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    The constant criticisms of Barack Obama, his mysteriousness, his policies, his leadership style, his spending have helped to curb his enthusiasm and that in my book is a very, very good thing.

    You don't seem to understand, we really truly do hope he fails to push his progressive agenda through.   We really truly do think it is destructive to this country.   We honestly don't want the fundamental change he wants for us.  So we will object.  You won't shut us down with your constant whining.

    It comes with the territory don't you think, Democrats?   What do you want a love fest like you give Republican presidents?

    By the way, do you suppose he's hoping Hillary will take the heat for Libya?

    Here's a treat. big_smile

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-JuE9esfUc

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      From what I've seen through your own post and that of Lady_Love, you're both on similar pages of a book that is in the trash. There is nothing wrong with progress, because it usually brings growth and expansion to the table, instead of being stuck in the past, like so many people live now.

      The Path of Peace can be seen. Can YOU See it? Probably not.
      Yeah, and what you think you know is what scares people, because all you do is complain and provide no solution. Therefore, you don't know sh!t.
      The "fundamental" change required is the breaking of the "status quo" in America. If you support the "status quo" and it's control over freedoms and wealth, then you've again shown that you rather damage society than help it.
      Constant whining? You're the one complaining and yet you're calling other people "whiners"? How pathetic and sad is that. hmm
      I would rather you show something more than pathetic complaints. Try a solution for once? Try proposing a common ground initiative, so progress can be made forward. Sitting on a perch complaining at the top of your lungs isn't enough.

      1. AnnCee profile image70
        AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        When statements like this are reported people are banned from the forum.

        1. literarychimp profile image61
          literarychimpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          "Hello, hello..is that the CIA.......I found another one who needs to be silenced, he, he wa ha hs"

  10. mikelong profile image75
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    The only way to work through the "slog" that has been created for us is to work together....

    But Lady doesn't understand this idea...

    SHe is working as hard as she can to stay atop the political forum list.....vanity vanity....

    I asked her once what she would do if she was president, and she said that she would tell me once she was elected....

    This is the proof of the pudding.....  She is simply a charlatan in hubber's clothing....minus the hubs, of course..

    1. JMHeller profile image70
      JMHellerposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I am right there with you Mike. I am done talking to her.

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I wish I could say I was heartbroken but then that would be lying.

        1. literarychimp profile image61
          literarychimpposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Ah, I think at heart your a lonely girl who needs to be told she is loved.....Your hatred is a cry for help lady love

          1. lady_love158 profile image60
            lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Lol! Yeah sure and you're just the man to do it!! Lol
            I don't hate anyone nor do I need your help in the love dep't!

            1. John Holden profile image59
              John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              You want to get rid of all socialists and democrats but you don't hate any body, yeah sure!
              That must mean that you also feel pretty unloved too lol

              1. lady_love158 profile image60
                lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Yes I want to get rid of them but its out if love! I want them in Cuba where they'd ll be happy!

    2. S Leretseh profile image61
      S Leretsehposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "The only way to work through the "slog" that has been created for us is to work together...."

      Work together Miguel? You mean like your DEMS did in Wisc. & Ind? Sure. Gotta love the the DEMS desire to work bipartisan. Oh, almost forgot. Remember Pelosi and her bully tactics when the DEMS had a super majority? 

      REPUBLICANS are ready to roll em over , so get out of the way Miguel

  11. mikelong profile image75
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    What the Lady calls "divert and distract" most would call cross examination....

    But, whether discussing globalization, evils like redlining, or the corporatocracy that has dominated this nation over the past 30 plus years....Lady calls out "distraction"....

    When it is pointed out that labor organization in America is older than the United States she still harps on the "socialists" and "leftists"....as opposed to American traits and characteristics....

    The Poor Lady has forgotten that Americans are of very different stripes, politically, socially, and economically.....for she would like to see governance that favors only one caste.....

    The more I think about it, the more Lady's ideations on "republicanism" falls closer in line with the minority, hardline control that left its mark in places like Saddam's Iraq....

    Hussein's way....or the highway...with plenty of purges along the way....Kurds....Shiites....they're not really "Iraqi" anyway.....  Right?

    I am glad that she would never ever be taken seriously in any run for political office.....which is why, I suppose, she works so hard to stay atop the political forums section here at Hubpages....

    It's too bad that ranking system can't be left up to a vote, based off the best writers, as opposed to those who basically spam (guess who?)...

    1. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      And.when its pointed out that only 12% of workers are union in this country and the bulk of them are government workers and that actually is why there is a demicrst (socialist) party mike talks about the myans origns in meca and how gold was once believed to come from lead and the pyramids were built by slaves... geesh! ! How can anyone respond to your drivel??

  12. mikelong profile image75
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    Wow! After that babble there is no way that you can ever accuse me of rambling...

    I give off coherent, organized thought.....while it appears you are struggling to find any coherence at all...

    Well said!  I would love to see you become President, just so I could watch you embarrass yourself and your supporters on national and global television...

    Your hypocrisy knows no bounds...

 
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