China must be doing something right...
Daniel:
That's called "control!"
We humans are out of control!
If we need a strong parent who deals out love with strict rules and education that will make us stronger and save our asses, so be it!
Contemporary humankind exists hating and killing!
What we need is a "strong" hand to whip our childish asses into shape and demand that we work together in concert like a "family" should!
We are supposedly the "brotherhood" of man, yet we act like mortal enemies toward one another!
Lip service is served! Reality is ignored!
We are wallowing in deep shiite! (shiite is not an islamic cult
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Qwark
And this from a guy with a bible in one hand and a gun in the other
Centralized authority enables that. The bad news is can you trust it?
Actually, all we need to do is roundup the incompetent politicians and…
Just establish a capital punishment for corruption (like in China) and everything will be just fine, fine and just in our government.
- Home Girlposted 13 years ago
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No, no.
He needs to be controlled!
- Home Girlposted 13 years ago0
Qwark! I am worried…
You said, “I said, very clearly and concisely, that mankind needs to be controlled!”.
My question is:
By Whom?Yea well all my kids toys are broken,and my toaster just blew up.
So dammit ya not doin things right
@Qwark
You are stating a whole load of unproven assumptions and opinion. I grant that where you are and what you see may incline you to believe what you say - where I am and what I see inclines me to have greater faith in people.
However, I am just off to watch a movie and probably sleep through it after a hard night out last - and I will come back and answer your post later@Qwark
First, let me remind you that this will not happen in our lifetime.
You do not know this. Most change comes suddenly, unexpectedly and it could well happen in our lifetime, well mine anyway as I am not yet an old fart !
Man has had many,many millenia to function in "...smaller areas in some kind of co-operation." it hasn't worked to date.
It worked for millenia - the habit of wholesale destruction pretty much started with the Roman Empire - before that wars were generally localised or a 'conquest' as a new boss installed himself over some Empire or other.
Nature, nurture and environment in varying areas of habitation on planet earth, have created cultures which differ in mores, morality and values.
When they meet they seem to clash as each exerts the results of their background of adaptation and beliefs.
This is pure Americana - peoples have been existing peacefully side by side for centuries. Even the Muslim Christian divide was fairly peaceful for a few centuries until Israel was imposed on the middle east and then compounded by the US attacking for some reason I have already forgotten, oil probably.
There has never been in recorded history an example of humans existing, together, for great lengths of time, peacefully.
Conveniently forgetting China maybe, once it settled down to one Empire it was pretty peaceful - except for a religious war (of course) in the middle - thousands of years of stability and peace
Today, man is so fragmented in thought and belief that he can never come together and "bond" in human brotherhood for the benefit of all.
Western man is too fragmented to even stay in its marriages and families. Asian countries especially and a couple of European countries "bond" pretty damn good I have to tell you!
He will continue acting and reacting according to his predatory genetic programming. He is a "programmed," natural killer.
This is totally opposite of the truth. If you have ever been in the military you will know it takes a considerable degree of brainwashing and horrendous abuse to get a man to shoot at another man. Most of the world (outside of America) is generally peaceful and living in some kind of harmony. Even places where there is interal conflict ( usually imported from outside) much of life goes on in a normal peaceful and civilized manner. The small percentage of world population that is the US suffers all the issues you mention - but this is not hte world norm.
If he is to survive as a species, he must be controlled with "extreme prejudice!"
That control can only be created by those "higher evolved" intellectual members of humanity who are adamantly dedicated to the survival of the human species.
The control you talk about is by rich powerful people, the types who have already enslaved most of the world in debt and fear of terror and 'the other'. The barest chance that they would acquire humanity with the intelligence (that only you think they have) is about as likely as me winning Miss world 2012.
The "stuff of nightmares," will be created if we continue on as we are!
Slavery would have nothing to do with the goal of a "proper" 1 world Gov't.
On the contrary! Every man would be free to pursue life in any form he desires as long as he harms no one, eliminates from his life, by education, the fear and superstition, created by beliefs in the supernatural and dedicates himself to the survival of all.
This is simple Utopian dreaming - go read George Orwell.
Of course mankind needs to develop "self control!"
As he exists, he will, most likely, destroy himself before he matures and that "self control" can be realized.
Man is a "social creature."
He has evolved to be led!
He could never have succeeded to this point in his evolution as a single unit.
His strength has been, still is, in numbers and an evolving anomaly i.e. consciousness!
He is "still" an infant species attempting to reach the first rung of the evolutionary ladder and it remains out of his reach!
His only hope for success as a species is to reduce his population and re-group into a functioning social "mass" working in concert for the good of all life on the planet.
That will not happen in our lifetime or in the lives of our children or theirs.
This has already been tried unsuccessfully by good old Adolf.
The functioning social mass you talk of - that thinks it is all life on the planet - is whatever group gets the big stick during the reductions etc. This is more American than really really American, you think it would be 'your' group at the end, the idea that it would probably be Chinese, or Russian or Belgian never even occurs to you.
Generally I would have to say I must respectfully disagree with your line of reasoning.Hahahaha..
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Recommend, it is obvious that you are not an "old fart!" You'd have a helluva lot more insight into the basic nature of the human creature and a much greater understanding of the anthropological history of man over a period of about 4 million yrs, if you were.
We all have our "opinions." The "opinions" I post are based on almost 70 yrs of life and a lifetime of both formal and informal study.
I could respond to each of your areas of disagreement, but I won't because I think the concept of an immature, genetically, almost perfect, conscious, predatory creature, programmed to kill, is beyond your current ability to understand.
So we'll let it go at this point and just agree to disagree and let the future determine the fate of "imperfect man.'
The "stuff of nightmares" is just around the corner.
I appreciate your response.:
Qwark- WE are old farts, and of a similar background although I suspect mine contains a lot more world travel and time spent within differing cultures.
The difference we see is about the inherent humanity, peacefulness and decency of the human race. I have found that the vast majority of people are humane, peaceful and decent to the point of being loveable. I have also found small groups who are exactly the opposite and these are generally associated with issues resulting from colonialisation down the ages. The US, UK, Belgium, France are among the worst offenders with large proprtions of population who think the way you appear to be. Most of the issues come from the continued COLONIALISATION at arms length such as the failed attempts of Vietnam and South America and ongoing in Iraq, Afghanistan, parts of Pakistan, some area of South America still. Intolerance of race and religion are provoked and stoked by the same drvie to control others for financial gain.
Most people just wish the world wide aggression for gain would just stop and go away so that they can lead normal, peacful, loving, humane living.
TY Recommend:
I never "RECOMMEND" any gov't!
People like "Weholdthesetruths" read with preconceived notions and passionately respond without concerted thought based on knowledge, reason and actuality.
My question was why is China not thought of as being the laughing stock of the world?
That question has still not been answered in this thread.
I don't think "Wehold" has read all my responses.
My reason for suggesting that a 1 world gov't is necessary, is the same reason Einstein commented on it.
If people don't understand his reasoning...oh well!
Qwark:You are replying to me when it is someone that I was replying to you should be talking to - if you get my drift, I am not too clear when I just get up before that first coffee hits bottom
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