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we petition the obama administration to:
We the People demand that Obama veto the S. 1867 Bill which views all American Citizens as a terroristic threat.
s. 1867 is a bill that passed the senate which views all Americans as possible terrorists. Any American Citizen, under this bill, can be detained and held indefinitely with out a trial, for something as simple as having a weeks worth of food in their home. This Bill will force American Soldiers to detain the citizens they have sworn to protect. We demand this Bill be Vetoed. This is the United States of America and we demand liberty and justice for all!
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I've done it already. Great idea, urging Obama to veto the act. I've written both my senators.
The thing I fear most is that they will just reintroduce this into a bill in the future. If they really want it, they always find a way.
I clicked your link and it says that the site is temporarily down. Go figure.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/% … hank-you=p
is working for me now!
Signed it, unfortunately with such massive congressional support this won't matter EVEN IF Obama grows a pair.
Do you STILL feel represented by your representatives? Do you still feel that central government is a good thing?
Ron Paul and Rand Paul BOTH voted against this bill.
Voting your representatives out won't be good enough if this passes.
"However, on further reflection I conclude that the Obama regime’s objection to military detention is not rooted in concern for the constitutional rights of American citizens. The regime objects to military detention because the implication of military detention is that detainees are prisoners of war. As Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin put it: Should somebody determined “to be a member of an enemy force who has come to this nation or is in this nation to attack us as a member of a foreign enemy, should that person be treated according to the laws of war? The answer is yes.”
Detainees treated according to the laws of war have the protections of the Geneva Conventions. They cannot be tortured. The Obama regime opposes military detention, because detainees would have some rights. These rights would interfere with the regime’s ability to send detainees to CIA torture prisons overseas. This is what the Obama regime means when it says that the requirement of military detention denies the regime “flexibility.”
Here is a letter written by a Constitutional lawyer which explains in more detail why this bill is not in the best interest of our national security. It's very well written.
http://www.independentsentinel.com/2011 … ll-s-1867/
{that site leans to the right, btw}
Ron Paul explains it better.
It's "tyrannical", "unconstitutional", and will lead everyone "to hate us".
This is what I found at the official Bill Summary and Status page.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:s.01867:
You can click http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c … 12lngSXp:: for text of legislation.
Just ****ing drop it Evan. You're trying to hijack yet another thread to promote your Ron Paul nonsense. The issue is the bill. Conservatives, liberals, and moderates actually have an issue for once that should unite them, and you can't resist the temptation to resurrect Paul's dead on arrival candidacy.
LOLOL, did I make you upset, Ron? I'm ever so sorry - after all, I DO respect your opinion!!
HAhahahahahahah!! No, we both know that I really don't.
Ron: Both Paul's stood up to this bill in BOTH chambers of Congress. The libertarians that you make fun of keep voting the way you want them to.
Everyone's against this bill, but you keep voting for the same santorum into office.
Admit it, Ron. You voted for Obama looking for "CHANGE", but all that he's done is given you Bush on steroids. This bill is 50 times worse than the Patriot Act, and you're going to re-elect the bastard.
No. He isn't going to veto it.
... waiting for response about a shack while you ignore the fact that you like the santorum in Congress...
How many lies can you pack into one post?
I DIDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!!
I've stated this many times, you are aware of it, and you choose to repeat your lie yet again.
I've never voted for Santorum. You seem to have fabricated that one completely out of thin air; unless of course you are referring to the Urban Dictionary . com definition of santorum ,in which case I must bow to your personal expertise.
Obama has promised to veto it, but you chose to lie about that too.
Are you a typical Ron Paul supporter?
I'm sure the two of you will be happy living out your lives in your "liberty shack".
Hooray for reading skills: santorum was spelled with a lower case s! That means it wasn't the person's name!
My bad. You didn't vote for Obama. McCain wouldn't have been any better.
But, actually, the only promises about vetoes I can find are ones that suggest he will only veto it if it takes away even more power from the executive. i.e.: he won't veto if they take away more of our freedoms, but if they don't take away as much he'll veto.
The Posts that Pcunix posted actually show that he's for it. I have quotes above to show that he supports it. The on
What did you mean by 's'antorum?
P.S. I didn't vote for McCain.
I did before I got back to you. What did you mean by it?
Hey Ron, just wanted to let you know that Obama openly supports the NDAA.
I don't care who wrote the bill. All of Congress doesn't deserve to be in office if they actually think this type of bill is a solution to anything.
Get rid of them all.
Not the libertarians - they all voted against it.
Just signed it and shared it with all of my Facebook and Twitter contacts.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BURN THAT PAPER!!!!!!!!!! NO WAY SHOULD THIS PAPER BE GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know Quilligrapher, you really should just give up and I doubt anyone besides you are going to sign that. Wait a minute.... How do we know your not Obama posting this out so you can be prez again!?
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