Mexico Says "HELL NO" to Monsanto.

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Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years ago
The Mexican government denied Monsanto’s request to expand its pilot project in northern Mexico. The request was rejected because the government says additional tests and studies need to be carried out to determine the effect of genetically modified corn on native corn species.

Mexico has totally one upped the USA!!! A 2010 study showed that Mexican Americans live five years on average LONGER than other ethnic groups in America.

Surely there are lots of factors involved - but eating healthy food not engineered to kill and make infertile is surely one of them.

Kudos to Mexico for having sound information, and a government more concerned (yet less able) for the public's foods than Obama's admin, and the Monsanto Lawyer running the FDA!

http://eatdrinkbetter.com/2011/01/27/me … -monsanto/

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  DoItForHerposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  For our supposed role model status, the U.S. does many things only third world countries do: we use Monsanto sterilized seeds, we use BHT, we refuse to use the metric system, we support Fox News, we kill democratically elected leaders and put in military led dictators that favor corporate business, we rig elections by any means possible, we kill innocent citizens that we know to be wrongly convicted, we start wars to control oil prices and various related industries, etc.
  
  Man, Mexico is sounding better all the time.
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yup.
  
  I think I'd give Canada a go. I can already speak the language, and could learn French faster than Spanglish due to having once known a lot of French.
  
  Dunno what I'd do for money....but whatever, one can usually find some kind of way if they try hard enough.
  
  Hell, I'll just try to not eat corn!
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  DoItForHerposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  In Canada there are far fewer toxins or carcinogens allowed in their food; they prefer health for many over wealth for few.
  
  The 'AC' part of HVAC might be a downfall, but you could probably adapt and learn how to fix wood stoves!
  
  I'm sure there are also lots of things to whack with a machete. (I think I'm mixing up topics. lol)
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  WOOD STOVE REPAIRMAN AT YOUR SERVICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  LOL! I just want to be one of those folks that makes a living by talking about stuff online well enough to make some sales!
  
  Wish me luck! If I can get that ball rolling....I just might expatriate to Canada!
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  R. J. Lefebvreposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Wesman,
  Thats a big 10-4 (same as YES!). Monsantos only interest is MONEY!!!
  Ronnie
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  Repairguy47posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Just curious, what is the life expectancy of Mexicans living in Mexico compared to Americans living in America?
  
  What is the quality of life for Mexicans in Mexico compared to Americans living in America?
  
  Why would you tell us that Mexican Americans live five years longer in America than Americans and give us a story about Mexico saying no to what ever the hell it is you're talking about?
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Why don't you go and get your own research to find out what you want to know.
  
  I'm here to discuss positive things, and there's nothing more positive that I could possibly be doing right now that spreading awareness about the most corrupt, unethical, and hated corporation in the world.
  
  I don't recall inviting you to this post personally, so what is YOUR point.
  
  Do you have a point?
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  Repairguy47posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, I do, did I miss the part where an invitation is needed to comment on a thread? Zooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  So you still have no point to make? What, are you bored? Just being a troll?
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMEe7JqBgvg
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  Repairguy47posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Looking for a reaction? Do you have the answer to my questions? No? Mexicans live longer in the U.S.? Imagine that....
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not here to answer your unrelated to the subject question.
  
  When you start paying me for answers, then I'll hop to it, in the meantime I'm thinking that you've got internet, and should answer your own unrelated to the subject questions.
  
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  Repairguy47posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Cute, you're not answering because your stats on Mexican Americans have nothing to do with your post. Mexico shuns Mansanto...Woo hoo! Mexicans in Mexico will not outlive the average American.
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  No, you've yet to provide any data about that. I've no reason and you've nothing at all to suggest that Mexicans in Mexico live any shorter lives than Mexicans in America.
  
  You know this. Stop being a troll.
  
  But I'm interested, how much does Monsanto pay you to be a forum troll?
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  Repairguy47posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Eh, I wish I could get paid for pointing out actual trolls.
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  Hollie Thomasposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  +111111111111111
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks Hollie!!!
  
  I've got to learn to ....maintain my ...um, I mean not go ballistic when that one shill persons makes appearances.
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  Hollie Thomasposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hell, we're nice people, Wes. Every time we reply to their posts, we help them earn 50cents.
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  R. J. Lefebvreposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  repairguy47,
  You have been programed in a dark alley, open your eyes to what is going on, on mainstreet; you would rather not know, correct?
  Ronnie
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Sir, just wait for the other forum stalkers that so obviously work for Monsanto show up!!!
  
  Oh man, there's some trippy dippy folks out there.
  
  There's nothing positive to be said anywhere that I know of for Monsanto or any GMO product. So they got in with Bill Gates, and gifted a charitable slow murder and diseases to hungry Africans....as if we didn't have real food we could have fed them.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Actually, going by life expectancy stats show that the average US citizen will only outlive the average Mexican by 1 or 2 years.
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  Repairguy47posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Key being outlive. Thanks for playing.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  But we Canadians will outlive you Americans by 2 or 3 years
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  Repairguy47posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  yeah, but you will do it in Canada!
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  Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Thankfully
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  Repairguy47posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Touche. I mean that in the French Canadian way.
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  And any sane person realizes that there are TONS of variables and factors involved in that.
  
  It's one of those things that some people don't seem to understand...objectivity and science.
  
  Fluffy gets it, why doesn't repairguy?
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  Repairguy47posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Because repairguy thinks for himself and fluffy just wags his tail when his master scratches his head.
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That I do not doubt.
  
  Mexico, and Mexicans that don't eat Monsanto are surely happier, healthier, and smarter.
  
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  Hollie Thomasposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, right.
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  ElderYoungManposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Sounds lime governor venture was on to something after all. Viva la Mexico! They are also very tough on sweetners the allow for soft drinks. Might need to look into getting some land down there.
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aguasilverposted 11 years ago
I suggest that each Monsanto shareholder receives by post a package of Agent Orange in direct proportion to their shareholding.
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  ...and fifteen minutes in which they must drink it or die by "lead poisoning."
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  couturepopcafeposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hell, just let them walk barefoot through a newly sprayed field. That'll bring out the rashes and blisters the same way it does on Mexican kids who need to walk through Monsanto fields to sell their family's naturally grown produce. Their ducks are dying because of the runoff into ponds. This is their livlihood.
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Right!!!
  
  I often wonder if they serve GMO stuffs in the Monsanto cafeterias at the plants.
  
  I guarantee that the board of execs ain't eating that stuff.
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  couturepopcafeposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I think they are. They're too ignorant to realize what their doing. Very few, if any, corporations are going to spring for all organic food for their people, whether board or peon. It effects their bottom line. I think the FDA is the biggest monster here because they approve this stuff along with all the other medications, a good percentage of which is recalled or has some later warning attached to it.
  
  "Take alsapriobioptomethydiazapine and you'll get rid of your backache. Warning: may cause kidney failure, heart palpitations, dark stool, abdominal cramping, blurred vision, headaches, and numbness in hands and feet. Do not take if you have high blood pressure, are pregnant, or under the age of 15."
  
  But it'll get rid of your backache. 6 months later:
  "If you or someone you know has taken alsapriobioptomethydiazapine and has experienced severe paralysis, seizure or died suddenly, call the law offices of Goody and Twoshoes. We can get you a large settlement."
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  couturepopcafeposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  The unholy trinity at work: Politics/Media/Legal
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  LOL!
  
  That's certainly all true. There are safe treatments for things in Europe that aren't approved here, and only $$$$$$ could explain it. There's stuff approved all over the place here that Europeans wouldn't touch with a ten foot poll.
  
  Obama lost me as a supporter the minute he assigned Michael Taylor as head of the FDA.
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  aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  ...and down here in 'backward' Asia, we have stuff on sale to cure folk that would have BigPharma sweating their balance sheets if they thought it could be sold in the 'developed' world.
  
  Profit is a powerful motivation to let people die, especially when they die slowly and pay you daily to keep them in morbidity.
  
  Chinese doctors get paid by their patients every month whilst the patient is well, but do not get paid when the patient is sick... powerful incentive to keep your clients healthy!
  
  In the west, it's the other way around, you pay to be kept sick.
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  ...and who lives longer lives??? Asians!
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  aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Not necessarily, they also work harder and do things that kill them, like riding mopeds at Kamikaze speeds, which brings the age down slightly, but they DO have a lower cancer rate, about 140/1000 I think compared to the USA's 208/1000 (if my memory serves me correctly).
  
  And we are a disaster area for Monsatano, small farmers with organic crops as standard,(why buy fertiliser?) stacks of free rainwater and 365 day a year sunshine!
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I'm told that Asians have less cancer despite smoking WAY more tobacco...due to drinking huge amounts of green tea.
  
  Is green tea a big deal where you are?
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  aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Green tea, white tea, masses of herbal teas, and beer, lots of beer! we also drink lassi, a yoghurt drink with fruit flavourings, and of course everywhere there are fruit drinks mixed to order... carrot, ginger and apple is great for the digestion, the stalls have charts telling you what each mix is best for, so generally Asians drink better stuff, natural and cheap as tropical fruit is abundant.
  
  The younger ones have now started on coca cola and other phosphate drinks that kill you, but that is western infiltration on TV and films watched.
  
  I have a blend of mango, banana and star fruit or watermelon with psyllium husk blended in each morning, so your body gets what it needs to kick-start, but it is light and easy to digest, so the body rests until lunch.
  
  Also folk are more laid back in general, and that is a major factor in living well and longer, we have Buddhists, Hindi, and Taoists all mixed together, come 7.30am there are a whole bunch of folk doing intricate moves and exercises on a car park near my house... the place is just relaxed!
  
  And yes most everyone smokes except the westerners who have bought the lie.
  
  Here waiters bring you ashtrays when you light up, unless you are in a non smoking restaurant.
  
  (PS. Some Muslims smoke grass, who would have guessed!)
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That sounds awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  Folks NOT rush rush rushing everywhere to make that dollar so as to get that new iphone, Escalade, or McMansion - but trying to enjoy life, what a plan!
  
  Oh I hope someone over there will preach about the evils of the colas, it's either HFC corn syrup (Monsanto) with the sweet ones, or aspartame (Monsanto) with the diet ones - both equally damaging.
  
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  aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You are already preaching over here, take a look at your Google stats some day, you would be surprised how many folk read from all over the world, sure HubPages is basically American focussed, but I have hits from all over.
  
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  What we say can reach a multitude of folk, so keep plugging away
  
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks For the encouragement, John!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  I'm stuck right now in "trying to make a dime" mode....for needing it. I'm going to return to my true calling though - telling folks what I think they need to hear!
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ammccreeposted 11 years ago
Monsanto is EEEVVVVIIILLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't even go to Wholefoods and spend a billion dollars on a loaf bread to guarantee Monsanto hasn't put its monster seeds in it. They have the FDA in their pocket so deep I wouldn't be surprised to find out They are the FDA.
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Well besides the eugenicist named Hamberg on the board of commissioners, there is the Monsanto lawyer that Obama put at the head of the FDA....
  
  I think the important thing is to avoid corn, and that includes things sweetened with high fructose corn syrup, and one shouldn't drink Donald Rumsfeld's aspartame sweetener either.
  
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  lovemychrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  "Since joining the Obama Administration, Taylor has been working extraordinarily hard to transform the FDA from a reactive agency that chases down foodborne‐illness outbreaks after people fall ill, to a proactive public‐health‐based agency focused on preventing foods from becoming contaminated in the first place."
  
  http://www.marlerblog.com/lawyer-oped/a … el-taylor/
  
  "Mike Taylor, along with President Obama, USDA Secretary Tom Vilsack, Under Secretary for Food Safety Elisabeth Hagen, and FDA Commissioner Margaret Hamburg, have made great progress on food safety in a rather short period of time. They deserve the chance to keep on doing it, despite the conspiracy mongering to which Mr. Taylor is now being subjected."
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That's typical of all the wonderful bovine scatology that you always see associated with Monsanto from it's propaganda wing.
  
  Hamburg is a straight up eugenicist - she's the Jewish Adolf Hitler.
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  lovemychrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Sincerely,
  
  Michael F. Jacobson, Ph.D., Executive Director Center for Science in the Public Interest
  
  Shaun Kennedy, Director, National Center for Food Protection and Defense Director, Partnerships and Programs, College of Veterinary Medicine Assistant Professor, Veterinary Population Medicine University of Minnesota
  
  William D. Marler, Esq. Marler Clark, The Food Safety Law Firm
  
  J. Glenn Morris, M.D., Director, Emerging Pathogens Institute University of Florida
  
  Michael Rodemeyer, Lecturer, Department of Science, Technology and Society University of Virginia, Former Executive Director, Pew Initiative on Food and Biotechnology
  
  Donald W. Schaffner, Ph.D., Extension Specialist in Food Science and Professor Director of the Center for Advanced Food Technology Rutgers University
  
  Deirdre Schlunegger Chief Executive Officer STOP Foodborne Illness
  
  Carol L. Tucker‐Foreman, Distinguished Fellow, The Food Policy Institute Consumer Federation of America, Former Assistant Secretary of Agriculture
  
  Bill Marler is an accomplished personal injury and products liability attorney. He began litigating foodborne illness cases in 1993.
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Attorney - it's the Barr Association and Corporate interests vs human rights, and the health of everyone on the planet.
  
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maxoxam41posted 11 years ago
Europe, India and now Mexico are fighting the introduction of Monsanto genetically modified seeds! It is the beginning of a revolt against Monsanto's policy to dominate the world granaries, to experiment on us their guinea pigs!
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  couturepopcafeposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That ship has sailed. We're in it now. Buy only organic. Don't even buy meat that's been feed fed. Only grass fed. Read labels like a hawk. If there's any kind of corn or soy derivative, you can bet it's tainted. Consumers are blind because they choose to be. This is the information age and we're responsible for our own fate. If enough people stop buying the crap, they'll eventually take it off the shelves.
  
  The big problem, as I see it, is we can't trust anyone. If they start pulling product from the shelves, they'll bring it back in a more clandestine way and we'll need to keep digging deeper and deeper to uncover the deceit.
  
  Eat whole food. Know where your food is coming from. Eat less.
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You mean you wouldn't sacrifice your health for the new world order????
  
  tsk tsk!!!
  
  LOL!
  
  Bill Gates is providing "charity" to Africa. Why aren't African Americans up in arms about feeding poison to Africans under the guise of charity?
  
  Holy smoke that town in Alabama where Monsanto dumped pcb's into the ditch was mostly black, and those people are dying left and right.
  
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  couturepopcafeposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Love canal, redux. The difference is they know better now and are still getting away with it.
  
  There's no excuse for any of this and that's what scares the hell out of me. They have so much power. I'm ready for Red Dawn of the 21st c.
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Well we might well get to see that, or we might get vaporized instead, or we might get rounded up for the civilian inmate labour program!
  
  http://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/pdf/R210_35.PDF
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Debby Bruckposted 11 years ago
Hey Wes - I love your new profile image. You're dressed!
And, of course, I do so agree with all of your political forums posts in regard to health and the environment.

So TWO POINTS for Mexico and the other forward thinking governments that won't let Monsanto trample on their soil and destroy it for all living organisms and the future of this planet.

Thanks so much for keeping up these conversations.

Many blessings to you
Debby
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks Debby. I've got my own squad of forum trolls assigned to me!!!
  
  It's sort of fun. I don't intend to stop doing it...It's not productive so far as income....but every once in a while I get a good idea of something to say from these forums.
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Sally's Troveposted 11 years ago
To respond to and support your original post, Wesman Todd Shaw, Mexico, India, Romania and more countries are saying no to GM foods in general and specifically to Monsanto. What's wrong with the US is consumer blindness to the issue. US sales marketers are doing everything they can to sweep the ill effects of GM foods under the carpet, they've got plenty of corporate money to do that with, and they're doing a great job, blinding consumers all the way.
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I think that there were Monsanto or otherwise GMO fields in Romania...and I don't know what happened so far as who owned what, but they burned the fields to ash...which was certainly a fine thing to do.
  
  I'd personally like to see some patriots in this country set fire to Monsanto Corn fields. It would be a righteous thing for someone to do.
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  couturepopcafeposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  OMG, I'd love to see that! The perfect revolution to the New World Order. Yip Yip Yipee Kayeah!
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RachaelLeflerposted 11 years ago
What's so wrong about having genetically altered corn? Haven't we been selectively breeding corn for millions of years to make it more edible and pest resistent? Isn't this biotechnology the same thing but with faster results?
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  No, it's not. What's most terrible of all is "roundup ready" - as roundup is poisoning future generations to come as we speak.
  
  http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic … erbicide-p
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  John Holdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Rachael, one aspect of GM food that has not been mentioned here is that they put a marker in their seed. If you just happen to despise Monsanto and refuse to use any of their seed but your neighbour uses their product quite happily and some of your seed is then fertilised by your neighbours GM plants then your seed will carry the Monsanto marker and you will be liable to them!
  
  And believe me, they will take your money, lots of it!
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  Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Absolutely correct.
  
  How they get away with that garbage is beyond me. Amoral America - where money is always nothing but power, power used to prey on people who've got less money.
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lovemychrisposted 11 years ago
Ummm, maybe he was litigating in favor of those contacting foodborne illness?
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