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Romney and the Dog on the Roof: Why does the story stick?

  1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image93
    Dr Billy Kiddposted 5 years ago

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    The Romney Dog-on-the-Car-Roof story seem to be a big hit, bigger than the one about the fiddler on the roof. Yet, some people say it's no big deal to put a dog in a cage on the roof of your car and travel all day. And how can you judge unless you were there? But the story won't go away. Is it that unconsciously we think that this story epitomizes the kind of person Romney is? Do we worry in the back of our minds that we'll be next--hog tied with no voice in our future, stuck on a road to nowhere? If this isn't it, then what gives? Why won't the story go away?

    1. Shanna11 profile image93
      Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I think this story keeps cropping up because Romney has no other skeletons in the closet, so to speak. Beyond policies and business practices and political beliefs that people dislike, there really aren't too many morally wrong things that he's done (IE, drugs, infidelity, etc).

      1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image93
        Dr Billy Kiddposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I guess you mean morally there's no other incident that stands out. That could be it. Being out of touch with ordinary folks the way Romney is probably is no different that half of all people in political office. But still, I think there's more to it, like maybe people identify with the dog!

        1. habee profile image95
          habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Yep, Mitt seems to have a pretty boring past - at least, that we know about. No drinking, no drugs, no womanizing, no gambling, married his high school sweetheart...Can you say "Dullsville"? lol. I don't care - I like him, anyway.

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            idratherbeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Check out his military record, or should I say lack thereof? And what his stance on Vietnam was.

            1. habee profile image95
              habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Yes, he supported the VW war, just as JFK and LBJ did. I believe Mitt was serving as a missionary at the time. And no, I don't like that about Romney. As I've said before, Mitt is far from perfect, but right now I'm concerned with the economy and our deficit more than I am something that happened decades ago.

              Also, what is the national security force that Obama wants to make compulsory for everyone 18-25? Sounds kinda like the draft:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDSwyCPEsQ

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                idratherbeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Serving one's country, I don't feel is a bad thing. Would teach discipline, which seems to be lacking today. So deferments are okay in your book. As for the economy, it appears to be on an upswing.

                1. habee profile image95
                  habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  No, I already said I didn't like Mitt's reaction to the Vietnam War. And the economy did seem to be improving, until the latest reports. The deficit is still booming, though. See, I can see fault in people I support, but most Obama supporters are wearing rose-colored glasses. Many will never admit any  of his shortcomings. Most of these same people can't discuss politics without getting sarcastic/snide/snippy.

                2. habee profile image95
                  habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  I don't think I'm following your logic. You think it's bad that Mitt supported the VW but wasn't drafted, but you think it's okay for Obama to draft people into service, even though he never served. I'm confused.

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                    idratherbeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Here we go again, a question with a flipped question. He dodged the draft, big difference  (4 times with deferrments). Had he had a number and not went to war, I would view him differrently. I wasn't afforded that same silver spoon. And yes, any President, r or d, if needed should be able to put the draft into place. President Obama's serving or not has nothing to do with the draft.

    2. kerryg profile image87
      kerrygposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      First, Americans love dogs and have become increasingly disinclined to tolerate cruelty to them in the 20 o 30 years since the incident happened.

      But more importantly, I think the story suggests a lack of basic human compassion and empathy that is rather worrying, especially considering his silver spoon and the questions about the ethics of some of his business practices. A lot of American families are struggling right now - we don't need a guy who's incapable of walking a mile in someone else's moccasins. Even if that someone happens to be a dog.

  2. Mighty Mom profile image86
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    I, for one, do not relish the idea of ever being Mitt Romney's bitch!
    smile

    1. Shanna11 profile image93
      Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I, for one, would not say no to one of his grandsons.... wink

      1. Mighty Mom profile image86
        Mighty Momposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        And if I were wearing your shoes, Shanna, I wouldn't blame you one bit!

  3. lovemychris profile image55
    lovemychrisposted 5 years ago

    No offense, but if we are concerned with the deficit...how does cutting taxes for the wealthy help that?

    It grows the deficit! And that is Mitt's plan.

    1. habee profile image95
      habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this
  4. Greek One profile image74
    Greek Oneposted 5 years ago

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  5. Joelipoo profile image81
    Joelipooposted 5 years ago

    I was actually entirely unaware of this dog situation.  It hasn't made any news around my area.  If that is the most unmoral thing Romney has ever done, I'm not sure we have much to worry about with his past.

    1. Greek One profile image74
      Greek Oneposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      ... actually, he admitted to sleeping with the dog as well...



      but claims he and his wife 'were on a break' at the time

      1. habee profile image95
        habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I sleep with two big male dogs every night. Also, I think you're confusing Mitt with Santorum. Rick was the one with the bestiality issue.

        1. Greek One profile image74
          Greek Oneposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          I don't think Mrs. Santorum is attractive, but I think calling her a dog is a little mean

    2. habee profile image95
      habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      For real. AND the dog was in a carrier with a wind barrier - not strapped directly to the roof as some lib blogs imply.

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        idratherbeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Carrier or not, to strap an animal on top is irresponsible at best. Any dog lover would have to agree.

        1. habee profile image95
          habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Compared to some of Obama's actions and votes...

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            idratherbeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Here we go again, instead of addressing the issue, we flip it back. Interesting Republican ploy. And what may these actions and votes be? Seems to me the economy is recovering. Healthcare helping many of the elderly and children. Not to mention eliminating preexising coverage denial and eliminating the lifetime policy benefit.

            1. habee profile image95
              habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              I see. We're supposed to "dog out" Romney but not mention Obama. Since the choice is going to be between these two men, it stands to reason that voters will be comparing and contrasting. Obama did not support born-alive legislation, and he then lied about why he opposed it. You think it was inhumane for Romney to carry his dog on his car roof, but you have no problem with infants who were born alive from botched abortions to be tossed into the garbage? Read about it on factcheck:

              http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/obama-and-infanticide/

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                idratherbeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Here we go again, flipping. I've already heard your argument and it referred to born alive with no chance of living outside the womb. You're merely stretching the truth to fit your argument. And yet again avoid the issue at hand. A dog in a carrier, strapped to the top of a moving car. Once again, I can't imagine any animal lover defending that, by flipping a question or statement referring back at President Obama.

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                  idratherbeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  And I don't consider fact check to be fair and balanced. After all Walter H. Annenberg was a republican with extreme conservative ideas.

                2. habee profile image95
                  habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  I can't imagine any human lover approving of Obama's stance. It's not my argument - I got it from factcheck after hearing about it on the news - I wanted to see if it was true or not. So, if the truth has been stretched, as you say, it was done by factcheck. Many refer to it as "infanticide," but I'm not willing to go that far. Still, I do find it very troubling that anyone could be so heartless.

                  And how can you say I've avoided the dog issue?? Do you read the forums? I wrote a rather lengthy response to it a couple of weeks ago.

                  Our arguing is pointless. You'll vote for Obama, and I'll vote for Romney. If Obama wins, as I think he will, I'll survive. In fact, I would vote for Obama if either Santorum or Gingrich got the nod.

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                    idratherbeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    You're interpretation is just that. Infanticide is a stretch of the definition at best, considering it's the killing of a aborted baby after it's born. We're talking about a baby that "can't live outside the womb". That article was geared against abortion, and by the way, during the same time frame Romney was prochoice as Governor. I can go back and dig up dirt on Romney as well. His NRA stance would be one. He has a track record of flip flopping, to get elected as governor and now as presidential candidate. I'll debate both on todays message, not examples from yesteryear! Check the dates on your factcheck  and then do a little more homework on your candidate. You'll be surprised where he stood, didn't stand, and restood on many controversial issues such as abortion.

    3. lovemychris profile image55
      lovemychrisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, that's nothing. He makes Bush look like a boy scout.

      You don't become filthy rich by being a saint.

      1. Shanna11 profile image93
        Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I don't see why you couldn't become rich in an ethical manner? That's my goal in life....

        ....Well, one of my goals. Obviously not the main one.

        1. lovemychris profile image55
          lovemychrisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          21 million is beyond rich. That goes into criminal, IMO.

          1. Shanna11 profile image93
            Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Why? Say I worked really hard and earned 21 million in an ethical manner. What is criminal about that?

            I mean, right now I work two jobs, go to school, earn money off of Hubpages-- for a college teenager I have some pretty decent savings and I plan on just growing that by continuing to work hard. I guess I just don't see why you think it's criminal?

            1. lovemychris profile image55
              lovemychrisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              He hides money, skips out on taxes, and buys companies to crash and burn them. Plus...and I know all of you will dismiss this out of hand, but there are credible sources who say he was laundering money at Bain.

              And since the right saw fit to dig up any and all people in Obama's past:

              look up Kofer Black and Jeff Perry.
              One was his advisor
              the other was a dirty cop--not a peep from Romney OR Scott Brown on that one

              And he also promoted the prosecutor who framed my friend, to a Judge.
              Let the corruption roll on, RMoney.

              this is personal with me as you can see.

              1. Shanna11 profile image93
                Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                If there are credible sources saying he was laundering money, why is this not in the media or why has this not become an issue beforehand? Surely they would be all over that in a heartbeat. May I see these sources?

                1. lovemychris profile image55
                  lovemychrisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  It's not in the MSM. And no--I can't google. I have a malware named HAPPILLI that is embedded in my machine.

                  Just google: Was Mitt Romney laundering money?  and see what comes up!

                  1. Shanna11 profile image93
                    Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    I am right now-- this is going to require a lot of reading for me to understand. But a lot if it just appears to be personal blogs and websites that really just don't give off that credible vibe. I'm just barely poking at the surface, of course, but I'm skeptical.

            2. Josak profile image61
              Josakposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Not criminal necessarily, ethical? Almost certainly not, I wish you well making your fortune but I wonder do you think it ethical to have 21 million dollars while millions starve to death and go without shelter? I once found myself in that situation and could not bring myself to deal with it and ignore the suffering around me to satisfy my own desires, in the end I gave it away... To be honest I don't know how so many people can do it, I find it interesting that the prevalence of psychopathy rises exponentially alongside wealth (can post links to prove it if necessary). I will say this of all our politicians left and right alike, I don't know how they can claim to care for the downtrodden and the poor and yet live in luxury.

              1. Shanna11 profile image93
                Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                If you earned it, you can do whatever you want with it (although I do think it's not right to just sit on it all). I definitely would not feel comfortable with a huge fortune just sitting there. I'm a giver, and I would be more than willing to share what I don't need with others. Mitt has done the same-- he's donated a large amount of his own money to charitable organizations.

                I'd be interested in the psychopathy links just out of sheer curiosity, if you don't mind sharing.

                1. American View profile image60
                  American Viewposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  All one has to do is look at the amount of donations from Romney then Obama then Biden.

                  I do find one thing curious, the left degrades the way Romney made his fortune, yet they embrace how the Kennedy's made their's

          2. habee profile image95
            habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Nothing wrong with being rich. If he did something criminal, he should be locked up. Do you think all rich people are criminals - Warren Buffet, the Kennedys, John Kerry, Bill Gates, Obama, John McCain, etc?

            1. lovemychris profile image55
              lovemychrisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              The real criminals never get caught...as these past 12 yrs have shown me.

              Only the peons do time. Or the scape-goats.

            2. Dr Billy Kidd profile image93
              Dr Billy Kiddposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              I don't think they are criminals. But I do know that they are out of touch with other people. People are things to do transactions with, and like Romney said, I like firing people who do service for me. I also think that those folks that you mention feel over-entitled to a bigger share of the American Dream.

              1. habee profile image95
                habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                I like firing crappy service providers, too, which is what Romney said. Would you keep your insurance company if the service was terrible?

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                  idratherbeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Problem is, most people don't know their health insurance is no good. Most don't know their deductible or lifetime benefit.

                  1. American View profile image60
                    American Viewposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Most know

  6. lovemychris profile image55
    lovemychrisposted 5 years ago

    "Now that Mitt Romney is the presumed Republican candidate, it's fair to ask how he made so much money ($21 million in 2010 alone) and paid such a low rate of taxes (only 13.9 percent).

    Not only fair to ask, but instructive to know. Because the magic of private equity reveals a lot about how and why our economic system has become so distorted and lopsided -- why all the gains are going to the very top while the rest of us aren't going anywhere.

    The magic of private equity isn't really magic at all. It's a magic trick -- and it's played on you and me."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-re … 20180.html

    And just think...his tax plan gives him more of a cut, while poor workers actually have to pay more! What a guy.

    1. Shanna11 profile image93
      Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, jeez. Citing Huffington Post? There goes the credibility out the window....

      1. lovemychris profile image55
        lovemychrisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        It's Robert Reich. Credible as all heck.

        1. Shanna11 profile image93
          Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, but why would he write that for HuffPo? Surely he could have had that published elsewhere!

          I just realized that his book is one of my assigned readings for my economics course next term- it'll be an interesting read.

          1. lovemychris profile image55
            lovemychrisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            She posts a lot of different writers. And plenty who don't really support Obama...including her.

            He has also written an e-book, Beyond Outrage. It's 4 dollars or something.
            He also is critical Of Obama.

            The thing about him though...you won't see him calling Romney any personally demeaning or degrading names. That is the difference between a credible person, and a PUNK. imo

            1. Shanna11 profile image93
              Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Wait-- what do you mean by "she" and "her"? The head of HuffPo? I was just referencing the organization as a whole, which tends to produce more biased articles than other online news organizations (they're getting better about it, but they're the left-leaning version of Fox IMO). Also they are in horrible need of a decent editor. Far too many of their articles have several painfully obvious typos/mistakes.

              I'm just going to stick with CNN.

              1. lovemychris profile image55
                lovemychrisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                She posts Leslie Gelb.

                Left? What--the part in his hair?

                1. Shanna11 profile image93
                  Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  I still don't understand who you mean by "she", sorry.

                  And left as in more liberal. Fox is clearly conservative, and HuffPo is liberal. I'm not saying anything about Reich, since I have little idea as to who he is, I'm merely commenting that HuffPo isn't a terribly credible place to have your work published, IMO.

          2. American View profile image60
            American Viewposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Shanna,

            Just look beyond his personal book. He is not as smart as he thinks he is. I will let you research and discover on your own.

        2. American View profile image60
          American Viewposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          RR is far from credible

  7. lovemychris profile image55
    lovemychrisposted 5 years ago

    "I wonder do you think it ethical to have 21 million dollars while millions starve to death and go without shelter?"

    Not only that, but INCREASE the wealth at the top, and CUT more from those who are suffering! It's, as Robert Reich says: Beyond Outrage.

  8. lovemychris profile image55
    lovemychrisposted 5 years ago

    "MITT ROMNEY, BAIN CAPITAL and the MORMON MAFIA!"

    This is the one I would look into.....

    1. Shanna11 profile image93
      Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Mormon Mafia? Lol, I'm Mormon and I would LOVE to know more about THAT...

      1. lovemychris profile image55
        lovemychrisposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I read the other day that the NSA really loves Mormons, because they are honest and hard-working.
        They are apparently building a huge NSA spy center in Utah...underground? I don't know...google that too!

        1. Shanna11 profile image93
          Shanna11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Haha, yes, I knew about that. I drive past it daily (I attend a Mormon university in Utah just a half hour away from the center). It IS true.... the FBI/CIA and other government industries love Mormons because they are truly generally honest and hard working  (there are the bad eggs though). They also don't have any past drug use or skeletons in the closet.

          And since the vast majority of Mormon men serve overseas religious missions for two years, they are fluent in customs and languages that Government agencies find very helpful.

  9. lovemychris profile image55
    lovemychrisposted 5 years ago

    "On Mitt Romney's Millions In Cayman Island Offshore Tax Havens ..."

    This one actually says money laundering in the lead in....WISH I could get there!!

  10. lovemychris profile image55
    lovemychrisposted 5 years ago

    Interesting to see....

    10 Big Companies That Pay No Taxes (and Their Favorite Politicians) http://mojo.ly/ICwEzA

  11. lovemychris profile image55
    lovemychrisposted 5 years ago

    Gotta admire Obama's savvy....
    "Tomorrow is Bo’s third anniversary as First Dog. Help celebrate by picking your favorite photo on Pet Lovers for Obama:" http://OFA.BO/J1Z9Hr


    ahahaha....smacked with a velvet glove.

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    idratherbeposted 5 years ago

    @habee, small businesses that adjusted to the recession are doing just great. Profits and foot traffic is up. Economy and job creation is on the upswing.

  13. mio cid profile image41
    mio cidposted 5 years ago

    The story sticks because Romney comes across as weird, and this story reinforces that image.

 
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