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   ChristinSposted 9 years ago

   What makes some women attack other women in powerful positions based solely on their appearance?
   
   As women, we have come a long way, but I fear we have taken for granted just how much other women sacrificed so that today a female can even occupy a position of power.  I'm no Hillary Clinton fan for example, but when you see other women attack her solely due to her "hair" or "clothes" does that not seem troubling? As women, it would seem that if we oppose another woman it should be to disagree on principles not pettiness.  How can we grow as women if this is what we resort to?

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   RTalloniposted 9 years ago

   It's called "the human condition" in truly Christian circles.  The thing to remember is that it's not just women that do it.  People who are left to their own thinking and not taught differently do it to each other, gender notwithstanding.  Immaturity and other factors play into it, but the bottom line is that, though we do not like to face the truth, we are fallen in nature: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3:19 .

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      ChristinSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      yes I recognize all people do it, but women seem to attack other women in power for petty reasons far more prevalently than men. I don't remember a man calling out a man on his hair alone for example or saying his suit made his butt look big etc. lol

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      RTalloniposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      That's true, the petty cattiness among women can be stunning, but men have their ways, and men these days don't hesitate, though not quite in the same way.  They keep it among themselves most often, but more and more...

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   dashingscorpioposted 9 years ago

   I've observed this over the years as well.
   There doesn't appear to be any real "sisterhood" among women. Comments about Hilary's appearance really come as no surprise.
   Whenever there is an awards show on TV it's usually preceded by a "red carpet" stroll and it's all about (women) critiquing women's gowns, makeup, hair, shoes, and jewelry.
   People Magazine oftentimes will post side by side photos of (female) celebrities wearing similar outfits with the caption: "Who wore it best?"
   Some of the biggest selling magazines and gossip newspapers in grocery stores are those which feature (women celebrities) without their makeup, revealing cellulite, stretch marks, varicose veins, spider veins, and non-retouched photos.
   I suspect for some of these women seeing celebrities "imperfections" makes them feel better about themselves. Men typically don't look for similar magazines featuring male stars to "compare" themselves with.
   It's usually (women) who love to point out or say:
   "She really doesn't look like that!"
   For some people criticizing others is their (favorite) pastime.

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      ChristinSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely! Men are competitive and that's fine, but women tend to be back biting and mean when it would serve our best interests to not do so.  shameful truly on our part. I admire men that can compete without all that added nonsense.

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      savvydatingposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      So now you're agreeing with a man who thinks it's OK to hit women? That's what brings women back, not whether they don't like Hilary's ponytail. Get some perspective for once in your life, Christin, that is, if you really want to bolster women.

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      ChristinSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      savvy what on earth are you talking about? I have never said anywhere it's ok for a man to hit a woman.  I think it is you who need some perspective and to not be so rude.

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      dashingscorpioposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Christin S.; savvydating is referring to a question 4 months old. I said (no one should ever be hitting anyone)!
      However if you do hit someone don't be surprised to be hit back whether you're a woman or man.
      That makes (me) evil I suppose!

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      ChristinSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Oh for Pete's sakes, I remember that now.  If anyone man or woman hit me; I'd hit back - it's called self-defense and has zero to do with this question.  Sorry she's attacking you here on an unrelated issue Dashing - that's not cool.

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      dashingscorpioposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Oops! I see I placed my last comment about savvydating under MizBejabbers  answer! Sorry about that. Essentially sometimes people have to agree to disagree on certain topics.

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      ChristinSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely Dashing, it would be a boring world indeed if we all agreed on everything .

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      savvydatingposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      No need to feel sorry for D.S. He is very good at damage control. He sympathized with Rice, who hit his girlfriend. And you, C. are denigrating women who talk about ponytails. That's not what it means to have perspective.

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      ChristinSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      No, I'm denigrating pettiness and this question has nothing to do with former questions Savvy.  Try to stay on topic or return to that other question. I did not mention "ponytails" specifically here. Although I do rock one pretty well myself lol .

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       dashingscorpioposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       savvydating, I never sympathized with Rice! If I said anything it was I saw a video where (she initially spit in his face). I then added some people (over retaliate) because of  things like that . Christin's question has nothing to do with that!

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       savvydatingposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Dashing & Christin....I am actually on topic. You speak of how women have lost 100 years thru pettiness. That does not happen when we wonder why a woman has bad hair. But hitting a woman and agreeing that's OK? That truly unfortunate and destruct

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       ChristinSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Stay on the topic of THIS question or stop commenting here Savvy. THIS question was only about women picking on other women based on appearance only.

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       savvydatingposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Well, the topic is about denigrating women, Christin, which you have done quite nicely. But, of course, you can't see that. BTW, don't give me or any women directives about free speech. That really not acceptable.

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       ChristinSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Whatever Savvy - I'm not going to argue with you.  Life's too short. Since you want to ruin an actually meaningful question; I'll just close it.

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   MizBejabbersposted 9 years ago

   Envy, jealousy, you know, the words the Bible tells us to shun. For so many years it has been a man's world, and women's very livelihoods in some cultures actually depended on keeping a man's love, lust, or otherwise attention. Women have competed so long against each other just to live that it is ingrained in their very being. How would you like to compete with multiple wives just for your husband's attention and live with the fear that he could say "I divorce you" three times and throw you out on the street? That's Muslim, you say, but it or similar customs have been known in other cultures. Even if a man didn't divorce his wife, he could take others and ignore her. For all of Paul's faults, and I'm no fan of Paul's brand of Christianity otherwise, he did limit the marriage to one wife. But we still have Christians, even in this country, who practice polygamy.
   Today women have had to scratch and claw their way up into equality into a man's world. (I know because I was a successful woman pioneer in the field of  broadcasting.) Women still make only about 67% of the salary of a man doing the same job, so it is no wonder that they consider their "sisters" to be their competitors and will tear them down in a petty way if that's all the fault they can find. At home a woman still wants to be the most beautiful in the world to her husband, so some will knitpick at the "perfect" women they see on TV or an attractive next-door neighbor.
   Today with the infusion of the divine feminine love into the world, I hope that women will recognize each other as sisters and support each other with love.

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      ChristinSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Excellent answer, you make so many good points and I can see how it could be our history that contributes to our self-sabotage.  I do hope that as time goes on we recognize that our real power is going to be in elevating one another.

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      MizBejabbersposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I just read something wonderful. Geena Davis has established the Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media to promote women in movies as more believable female characters and as film executives. She was Thelma in the 1991 film "Thelma and Louise".

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      ChristinSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      that is wonderful.  I would love to see women more equally and accurately portrayed in media in general.

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      dashingscorpioposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Christin,
      I'm surprised a disagreement on a specific topic automatically means every other opinion or thought (I) have has to be wrong or the opposite of what she believes! I will never give a "free pass" to anyone to (initiate) hitting others!

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   gmwilliamsposted 9 years ago

   
   
   To those who have read the books Tripping the Prom Queen and Mean Girls, Meaner Women, there is so much rivalry and infighting among women.  There are some women who simply DON'T feel good unless they psychologically, even psychically denigrate a women which they perceive/believe to be inferior in order to make themselves feel good.
   
   This belittlement and/or ill will towards other women is an outgrowth of the mean girl mentality.  There are some women who believe themselves to be superior to the other women around them rather it is physically, educationally, socioeconomically, and/or otherwise.  These are the women who use their supposedly superior status to lord it, even harass or criticize those who aren't in their particular standing.  In other words, there is the "in" clique or group and those who are deemed "outsiders."
   
   It is mostly immaturity and envy.  Somehow the woman who deem she is superior or in is somehow threatened by the woman who is supposedly the inferior or outsider for some reason so the former attack the latter.  If the so-called superior woman was comfortable in her own skin, she would not have reason to attack the so-called inferior woman.  Besides immaturity and envy, it is a form of bullying which is an outgrowth of insecurity.

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      ChristinSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting indeed. Do you think this is something we'll "evolve" out of eventually time goes on and we have been in better positions longer? or will we always have a "mean girl/woman" streak?

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      gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Some of us will; however, there are women who will always have that mean girl mentality.  It is a matter of both tribalism and immaturity, let us add insecurity.  Mean girls are inwardly insecure; if they weren't, they would not be mean girls.

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