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Bigcountry12577posted 14 years ago
How can rights of people concerning color be compared to people of sexual preference? I believe that the two cannot be compared, for one is based on the color of a mans skin while the other is based on sexual desire.
Tell me how the (desire or right) to drink out of the same water fountain, the (desire or right) to have a good education can be compared to the (desire or right) to have sex with someone of the same sex or further more be married to the same sex? For an example of this being silly nature proves it to be wrong, for the same sex cannot reproduce!
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ???
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's true; the two issues are NOT comparable at all.
  It's a lie of the homosexual agenda that's being force-fed into our legal systerm and education system and over-all down the throats of Americans (and perhaps others).
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  here here brenda and i second that motion!
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Nor some people mating different sex can't reproduce either.
  So you're saying couples that can't reproduce are silly ?
  
  Short minded ,ha ?
  shorts minds, small lives.
  
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh goodie - another homophobe. Bet you love jesus huh? But not in that way?
  
  May I respectfully suggest you not mention "education," any more. The quality of your own is apparent.
  
  But - I see your point about wanting the same rights as other people being totally different to wanting the same rights as other people.
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Morning, Mark! It seems we agree
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  WizardOfOzposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  when did your time machine arrive?
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mega1posted 14 years ago
queer is spelled queer and it doesn't describe any human being!
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Queer !
  
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You mean 'quear!'
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  it describes a human beings thinking. it is ________
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Actually Joe, "queer" isn't describing someone's thinking.
  describing someone's sexual orientation or sexuality.
  
  In reality, the truth of the matter is - every single person on the planet is bi-sexual. It's evident in the fact that some individuals actually live their life based on their sexuality/sexual orientation.
  
  However foolish that is, is still out for the jury. But, on another hand, what someone does in their own life is their business and not the business of you or anyone else who thinks like you do.
  
  If you have a problem with homosexuality, then get over yourself. It is obvious that people want to live their life their own way and yet more and more people are trying to tell them that they are wrong in doing so.
  
  It's a pathetic attempt to control others. Bi-sexuality is a given in every person. It is their own CHOICE to pick one or the other or both, for which, brings them pleasure.
  
  If you claim you are not bi-sexual, then you have chosen aside. You have chosen to be with one particular type of mate. Whether or not, that mate is of the same gender or not, is completely up to you and no one else has the RIGHT to dictate otherwise.
  
  It all begins with choice. Just my thoughts.
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hey cags_ i agree and your point is taken. but in a society where 99% of the people are of one"choice" then it begs the question how and or why did they make that selection. also i think everyone in this country has said to each his own. the question is why do gays always want to get in you face telling you they are gay non-stop! everyone has grown sick with this. why don't they just shut-up about it. i guess the next hurdle for them would be to have their own section in a restaurant.in big bold red letters "GAY SECTION" none of this is necessary. they will ask us, is it normal? we will say no. then here comes the tirade and they say we,re angry. my opinion is my opinion. if you don't want to know, stop asking and stop busting in everyones living room telling us that we must change our opinion because you or they say so.debate is healthy!
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Sab Ohposted 14 years ago
I don't think you can say that they are not comparable at all. There is still plenty of room to discuss important distinctions while recognizing important parallels.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What parallel is there in the issues of skin color and sex habits, especially in a Nation whose laws have up-to-recently stood for traditional marriage and had years ago corrected the wrong of racial discrimination?
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  there are no parallels.rascism was spawned out of greed. in this country. it was not a socially and morally unacceptable activity that perpetuated it.once slavery began and a few laws were in place. such as: no reading(felony) no learning to read(felony)no money(felony)no books(felony)anyone helping them to read(felony)then the population started to live in a false sense of superiority and there imaginations ran amuk. they thought if they had more money it was because they were better than you or if you were not very intelligent it was because they were better than you. no,it was against the law!
  
  Now homosexuality best i can tell is from desperation. no women around(prison,the navy)and maybe stems from womens lib. during the 80's they talked about men like a dog. they cut them down. anything a man did was seen as derideable. that aside, it opposes nature thus pointless. everybody has friends but ya wanna boink them? whew! that is nuts or deviant. girls are really starting to go nuts with this. so time will tell, when the last human dies due to negative population explosion or it's a phase that people soon realize is a waste of time
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And, you'll be dead long before you can even imagine that to even come close to happening.
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  yeah you are right but you see the formula.
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "there are no parallels. rascism was spawned out of greed."
  
  There are many parallels. Both racism and antigay bigotry were spawned out of fear. You were thinking of 'slavery.'
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  sab oh - no big business needed a uniformed work force. the white indentured slaves would run off and blend in with a community. thus the black man and free labor (can you imagine how many companies we could open if we didn't have to pay anyone?) unable to hide in the community.then laws masegeny laws were passed all felonies no mixing no learning no nothing, this would maintain the work force. then the peoples imagination ran away with them and felt superior over them. then they entered the job market and people felt threatened and rascism went rampant. not spawned from what society considered a seedy or morally incorrect lifestyle. so bottom line you can say they were discriminated against because they didn't like them and that's the only similarity.
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You're confusing "racism" with "slavery"
  
  Racism did not begin with the slave trade, and slavery far predates the establishment of the United States or the kind of 'big business' you have decided to make your personal boogeyman.
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Bigcountry12577posted 14 years ago
People are fooling their selves to think that being gay is okay. Those that believe this are either practicing homosexuals, have a kid who are allowed to practice such, or don't believe that the bible condemns such practice.
For those that don't believe the bible condemns this read Romans ch. 1.

When America was first established homosexuality was condemned by death or life at hard labor, for those that don't believe this check out the old laws of your local state, when your state was 1st established.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  You're funny ! Are you a comedian?
  
  Anyway...
  
  your post doesn't speak well of America, nor you !
  
  I'm not gay, and my daughter is not gay. But I wouldn't care less if she was.
  
  what's WRONG with you ??!!
  
  Nothing WRONG with being gay !!!!!!!
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  come on tantrum, who's fooling who?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Meaning ?
  
  what's your point ?
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  well i've read your post and see the way you think. i don't think anyone would forsake their children nor should they but. . .
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  you are correct then liberal President thomas jefferson suggested breaking the nose cartilage of women and flogging of men. that's brutal and cruel but what is one to do?
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mega1posted 14 years ago
nor does skin color have anything to do with religion, as far as I know, and yet we readily give people freedom of religion.

rights are rights - get over it and get on with it!
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Bigcountry12577posted 14 years ago
There is no such right for a man to be with a man nor a woman to be with a woman. Think of how they have sex how can it be considered natural?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And here we go again!!
  BTW, you look very 'quear' on your avatar LOL!
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  mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Do you think of how other people are having sex often? Is this something you often think of? other people having sex? and you imagine it in great detail, I suppose? Ooooooooh, bro, and you are all concerned about who should have rights? Do you have a RIGHT to imagine all those peeps doing it?
  
  I think you're funny too! and now I am imagining you, imagining them, and nearly falling off my chair!!!!! do you even see how ridiculous you sound?
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  MEGA - you think of it because it's confusing. you try to imagine how it could be done, then you say why would someone do that. and the other reason is because gays stay up in everyone face making it unable to not think of it. i wanna be with a guy , we say ok. then i wanna be in the military. we say ok. then i wanna tell everyone i'm gay. . . . why? it's like, you just want to stick out your tongue at society because there are no laws that are hurting you!
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  getmybackposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hmmmm
  
  always amazed at the anger people have that disapprove of homosexuality.
  
  why are you so angry?
  
  you speak of being gay as though you know what it is like.
  
  do you struggle with your own sexuality, I know this creates anger.
  
  it is within your right to be judgmental and ignorant.
  
  but don't pretend to assume these people are ignorant or don't have the same right to an opinion.
  
  as a gay woman, working as a musician, your judgements like others that share the same hatred have become boring and quite frankly, old.
  
  I am off to spend the day with my lesbian wife and your thread has given me a good laugh.
  
  so thank you, I do wish you had something original to say, then I would stay and entertain a discussion, but your unfortunately just too ordinary.
  
  good luck with this.
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  getmybackposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  oh bigcountry, btw nice to meet you
  
  billY
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  Love it !!
  
  These kind of anti- gay comments are very old indeed !
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  getmybackposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hey,hello my friend
  
  wait. are you gay?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  No, not yet !
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  getmybackposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  have to read your mail still
  
  have been busy in studio and being gay
  
  how r u?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Fine !! Waiting for you know what ! :
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  getmybackposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  I know, promise today
  
  btw, I'm gay
  
  can't resist
  
  this thread is ridiculous
  
  ok, going to try now-will cu in a bit
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Bigcountry12577posted 14 years ago
If you read your American history homosexuality might have been practiced but it wasn't done so openly until the 1920s
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Who cares!!
  And I'm not American, thanks !
  
  If more than half of Americans are like you, I wouldn't like to be there.
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  Will Bensonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's quite probable that there has already been a gay president of the U.S. (Buchanan).
  
  One of the best sources to read about the allegations of Buchanan's homosexuality is in James Lowen's book "Lies Across America: What Our Historic Sites Get Wrong". Lowen asserts that Buchanan didn’t try very hard to hide his preference. He lived with William Rufus King, a Senator from Alabama, for many years.
  
  Many referred to them as “the Siamese twins,” meaning a homosexual couple. Lowen asserts that Andrew Jackson dubbed King “Miss Nancy,” and Aaron Brown, a prominent Democrat, writing to Mrs. James K. Polk, referred to him as Buchanan’s “better half,” “his wife,” and “Aunt Fancy…rigged out in her best clothes.”
  
  Homosexuality is also referred to in the bible. It's been around a long time -- but today it's out in the open.
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Bigcountry12577posted 14 years ago
Well don't apply for you visa then!
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  and who's applying?
  I wouldn't go there even if they pay me ! :
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why would she want to? She lives in Argentina, a beautiful country.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  Hey Ryan ! Nice 2 C U !
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ryankettposted 14 years ago
'Queer' is actually a rather offensive term, 'Homosexual' would be much more appropriate. You should perhaps be made aware that one of the directors of HubPages is homosexual, but by all means carry on with your bigotry, it only makes you look small.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Something he should know!
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well...indeed I myself found that fact out, that one of the Staff is homosexual, or at least seems to defend it even at the extent of attacking MY straight views.
  
  And you, ryankett, have just accused another hubber of bigotry, when apparently it is YOU who are bigoted. Shameful twisting of the facts you've done. Just because a group of people decide they want to re-define their status at their whim, leaving others to have to cater to their new terms, doesn't make it wrong for the person to CALL it like it is.
  
  And once again, RACE is different from SEXUAL habits, even though the racial groups have often been guilty of re-defining their desired status as well.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Not really sure what you are on about, but if a homosexual is 'queer' then you are a 'honky', or something much worse. I haven't actually mentioned race anywhere, you must have imagined that bit, but if race is another of your obsessions then I will happily use that as an example.
  
  Labels are the very definition of prejudice and bigotry, I am not labelling anybody. An African-American man is more entitled to call himself a 'nigger' for example, a homosexual man is more than entitled to refer to himself as a 'queer', but you would have no right as a heterosexual white female to use those names to describe either.
  
  I'm not going to involve myself in your insane trolling any further, I can see where this is heading already, get over yourself.
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cosetteposted 14 years ago
discrimination is discrimination, any way you slice it.

being gay isn't about "sexual desire" - it is a person's entire identity, just as being straight is a person's identity.

i have to ask brenda and the OP - exactly what would you like to see happen to all the "gays" in America?

if you guys ran the country, what would you do to all the "gays"?

your answers will reveal just how deep your hatred and prejudice go...
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  kerrygposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Considering his comments above about execution and hard labor, it seems pretty clear what he'd demand - get those filthy perverts back in the closet where they belong, and if any of them dare to stick their noses out enough to claim the same right the rest of us enjoy to openly display our love for our spouses/partners, kill them.
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TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years ago
What I love is how all these people talk about how sex should be "natural"-how it needs to result in reproduction.

Are you seriously telling me that every time you had sex you were hoping to create a child? If you say yes, I don't believe you.

How can it possibly be so hard to understand this? You (OP, Brenda) did NOT choose to be straight. What on earth makes you think anyone chooses to be gay? God, there is SO so SO! much scientific evidence that shows that this is a NATURAL state of being (i.e., one into which people are BORN), even if it isn't the majority.

Where do people get off being so hateful and then acting like they're not...what is going on in people's heads!!??

My abusive, drug-addicted, barely educated, Baptist parents taught me better than that...funny how they got it, but some of you guys can't.

I just wish that for one week all the tables could be turned. I wish for one week all the straight people could be ones who were scorned and who had unequal rights. We'd see then who thought what was fair.
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ya know glass spyder- you sound as though you are gaym fine! the problem everyone has is people saying that it is normal. it is not! however society allows it. gays want to remain in everyones face telling us "look i'm gay'look i'm gay" why? to people that are not gay, it makes them sick to think about it. why are the gays unable to see that?
  also there was a time when you were a-sexual as a kid. but when you reached puberty something happened that caused you to decide which way you wanted to go. someone brought gays around you and they took advantage of you till you started to like it. you were really shy and girls were rude or you wanted to try it to see what it was like but there was a turning point and something caused it. but it's not natural.
  
  in growing up we learn our roles.if you had a 10 year old son and he was glad to see his buddy and he walked up and kissed him . you would think wtf and you would tell him hey son you don't kiss your buddies.it would be because he didn't know better. if you allowed this to continue it would soon grow into being affectionate with guys. not normal! and there are alot of people that feel this way, more than there are that feel the other way.
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It is completely normal.
  There is nothing abnormal about it - except in your own perspective.
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  wrong again. if you have something , anything and it always comes out a certain way. but 1% of them come out a different way. those are not normal. the only normal in this equation is knowing that we will always have 1%
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Actually you would be wrong Jen and I don't mean any disrespect.
  
  Normal? Is based on the natural reproductive state of human beings.
  
  And regardless of what individual people think, that's the basis for normal. It isn't subjected to changes as per the thinking of "gays" or "lesbians".
  
  Your individual sexuality or sexual orientation is your own choice. If you're spending your life with a partner and have no aspirations for having children(leave adoptions out of it the topic), then sure you could spend your life with a partner of the same gender.
  
  But, don't expect it to become normal, because it isn't normal. The normal is for a person to WANT to be reproductive and create off-spring of their own.
  
  Should you not want to create children? Then that is your choice, but as far as the growth aspect of humanity it would not be considered normal.
  
  Just a thought.
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  no arguments.
  
  But, I'm not talking about societal norms or the drive to procreate. I'm talking about the biological basis for homosexuality.
  It's a fact (not a choice) that a person's gender does not always align with their sexual drive.These two factors develop separately, and before birth. I'm not implying that homosexuality is normal compared to heterosexuality, because it is an anomaly. I am saying that it is normal in the sense that it happens commonly and it is not some kind of crime against nature.
  Unless you call those ducks criminal. But I gotta think that they're not considering whether or not the Duck Community has decided it's taboo.
  
  The 1% that was mentioned before is WAY off.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If someone is selling you on that way of thinking, then I suggest you use a little common sense, along with your thinking. There is no way possible for a person's sexual orientation to be determined before they are born. Any individual who says it does is passing along subjective bias views, so as to gain something for themselves.
  Actually, it is a crime against nature, because it defeat our natural instincts which are to breed, just like all other animals and other life-forms.
  
  Again, just my thoughts.
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Common is the only sense that I still have
  
  A baby's gender is determined in the first trimester.
  
  Pheromone research consistently shows that a different region of the hypothalamus is activated when homosexuals and heterosexuals are exposed to the same odor (men's sweat, for example.)
  Can you control how your hypothalamus reacts to a sub-conscious odor?
  
  The hypothalamus does not develop until the third trimester. A mother's hormonal variations during the pregnancy may have an effect on this mix-up. Studies in epigenetics are also showing a potential cause.
  
  It's like if somebody built a log-cabin style house, then at the last minute they decided to put in Victorian furniture instead of rustic-American style. Maybe not the greatest example, but the point is the body develops before the brain function does.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  But, my point is that the gender of a child is created, but not the sexuality or orientation. Therefore, it is a choice of the young child as they learn and grow. Again, leading to the sole point that a person's individual sexuality is a choice/decision that one makes.
  
  The choice isn't considered normal, as per what I said earlier.
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Love ya buddy, but you're wrong. Sorry
  
  If homosexuality was a conscious choice, how can you possibly account for sub-conscious reactions in the brain when a person is presented with an unidentified odor? Homosexual and heterosexual men - when they don't know what it is they are even smelling - have completely different reactions in the areas of the brain that contribute to sexuality.
  These areas in the brain do not develop at the same time as the physical gender.
  
  Also - I'll do it if you want me to - I could list a dozen or more physical differences between homo and hetero men, including how deep the fingerprints are and which direction the hair grows.
  
  It may be a choice whether to deny the biological urges of your subconscious mind, but the urges themselves are not a choice. No, no, no.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You see, now you're changing the topic. Please do stay on the topic we are discussing(you and I)- sexual urges are not sexuality or orientation. I would have thought you figured that out, since you apparently seem to know so much about the brain.
  
  However, sexuality, as I said is a choice. It requires an action. Thus, before it can be done, it requires that you make a choice.
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I've been restating the same point to you - I haven't changed the topic one little bit, dude.
  Sexuality and orientation are a direct result of sexual urges.
  A person cannot control who does or who does not turn them on.
  
  The only choice to be made is who to go to bed with.
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  Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Humorous Gesture:
  Most of the "homosexuals" and/or, as they say "queers" are actually born that way - for whatever reason via DNA or some other gay scientific reason, in which the divine rectal-reamer-haters often try to rectify the random, raging, repented violators of the reoccurring recidivism that involves rampaging pervasive acts upon desperate orifices from a recluse that is drawn into the male rectum? How taboo... Damn, I'm glad I was born to love big-booty girls! Ha-ha-ha!!!
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ok fact check and here are the results: According to the U.S. Census Bureau 2000, 1.5% label themselves as gay. The 10% quoted is a myth. According to polls and public advocacy groups, at least 10% of the United States population labels themselves as homosexual.
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  if one in ten is normal then what is 9 in ten
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  well i don't see how or why but i still say to each his own. it's illogical!
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are using the word "normal" to describe what the majority of people are.
  
  I'm using the word in the sense that it isn't unnatural.
  
  Having red hair is not normal when you compare the number of red heads to the number of brunettes. (your use of "normal")
  But, having red hair is normal. People are born with red hair all the time; they are not abnormal people. (my use of it)
  
  Now, if your argument is that homosexuality is a choice that people make, I disagree with you. But do me a favor and just read back through this forum if you don't know what my argument is in this matter.
  
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  WYANJEN-you have to be careful the analogies you use to create the picture that you want. this one was not effective. i will use nature as my basis. if you have 9 out of ten chicks at birth born with two legs and 1 in ten born with one leg , it is not natural.now you know the pro-creation thing so then gay becomes pointless. then thirdly you don't have to teach boys and girls to get together.o-13 seperate. 13 and after you can't keep them apart. if you have a son and you see all of the kids his age starting to go to parties and dances and then high school and the changing of boy friends and girlfriends by the month. then you should become concerned, why? because something is not N-----
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The analogy I used is correct. You are missing the point completely.
  
  A chicken born with one leg is a defective chicken. It is not a normal chicken. You should be careful yourself I think.
  
  A human who is born with red hair is not defective. A human who is born homosexual is not defective.
  You don't have to teach young adults who they should be attracted to. It is a natural urge. As to your "pro-creation" argument, I don't see too many 17 year olds designing the nursery before they go for a romp in the back of daddy's Chevy. You are applying a philosophy to a biological urge, after the fact.
  
  Considering through the course of human history, the massive number of homosexuals and heterosexuals who did not have children, I think your "pro-creation imperative" is narrow minded and false.
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  see i don't like these conversations but- here we go again.so then that would mean that something was off in the brain correct?it was malfunctioning, it was not normal and thats exactly what they termed it, "mental illness" untill the 70's. now i'm through. you are my friend but i think you will always get this argument. also you should travel i have lived in europe it is unbelievable there. it's accepted there. i wont tell you. you just have to go see!
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "also you should travel"
  
  Could there be a more pretentious line than this?
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah - nothing more pretentious than some one trying to educate you.
  
  Doesn't mean it is not true - your parochial viewpoint is painful to behold. You do need to travel some. Perhaps a further education course of some kind would help? You might feel better about yourself. Worth a try.
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "Yeah - nothing more pretentious than some one trying to educate you"
  
  Than presuming the likes of you can or need to? Yeah, there is nothing more pretentious than that.
  
  "You do need to travel some"
  
  Pretentious and completely illogical. Same OLD thing.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The truth does hurt - I agree. Still - no need to bite my head off. Just trying to educate you.
  
  I do suggest travel - it might give you a more balanced perspective - and the further education - probably help with the self esteem issues.
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I suggest some basic logic.
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  Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I know I've wandered amid pissing grounds or whatever you want to call it, but all this "travel" talk got me curious. I also need a vacation; what do you recommend?
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  South of France is very pretty this time of year. But - if you are in the US and on a budget - Monument valley is pretty amazing.
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  not petentious. . . just true! what you ask for i have seen. change your name sab o to devils advocate!
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What did I ask you for? I'm sure I didn't ask to hear about your bigotry.
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "it is not natural.now you know the pro-creation thing so then gay becomes pointless"
  
  You are very clearly bigoted.
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You make far too many assumptions, my friend, and they reveal that you really are just spouting words out your butt.
  
  I'm not going to go through and point them all out, but suffice it to say I probably do not and would not react remotely like you would in any given situation that has to do with gay people or affection. And I'm glad.
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  well good for you. you sound angry. . . why. . . i'm not!
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LOL...since all I am is words on a screen, I can't figure out how I "sound" much of anything. But I assure you, there's no anger here. Perhaps you should look inside your own head? Not trying to be smart-a**ed...just sayin'.
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  listen we all know eachother or see each other at least on here. this place is where we have intelligent spiraling conversation, are able to express our views and that is why we come here. no need for apologies. we only express our opinions. you will disagree with me here and we will agree with eachother on the next hub.go ahead be a smart ass sometimes. nothing like a heated discussion. debate is healthy
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  i don't react in a negative way to them at all.my neighbor is a lesbian with a mate. i treat them just like anyone else. the question is. . . is it normal? no it's not! i think they should be allowed in the military. i was in the military for ten years. there were a lot of lesbians in there then. they drove the duce and a halfs(big trucks)my company clerk was a lesbian with a girlfriend from our company. for the women it was not a problem but everyone was still just as confused. for guys on the other hand,i didn't see any. they were probably there but no one knew it. also i have walked in rooms in the barracks and seen women "gettin down" and just turned around and walked out.(many times) ya see i know how seedy it can become and they don't just want to be allowed in the military.they want it to be gov't sponsored cruising.
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  tell me what assumptions i make that are wrong. if their is something that i dont know. and i warn you . . .i make no assumptions. i've lived it and seen it!
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How long have you had this antigay prejudice?
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Bigcountry12577posted 14 years ago
I don't hate the people that practice it, But I believe the act is an abomination. The simple way people that practice this act should be proof enough that it is wrong.
Prove to me how being gay is a natural act and why in the animal kingdom is homosexuality not practiced.
Also why should the world change to accommodate a few when since time began marriage was a ceremony between a man and a woman instituted by God Almighty?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  In the animal kingdom is not practiced ???
  You don't even watch dogs, it seems
  
  Pleaaassee !
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Explain to me how wearing a checked shirt, a baseball cap, and blue jeans is a 'natural act'...
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  VERY 'QUEAR' !
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You obviously haven't been paying much attention to the animal kingdom...or anything else in the real world for that matter. Why not go read some actual science from planet earth and get back to us?
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Read your Bible again. Marriage as God intended has nothing at all to do with a ceremony. Nothing. In your Old and New Testament, if you read it properly (i.e. with a Strong's concordance sitting in your lap), you will realize that marriage is one thing (and you're probably MORE married than you think)...and the official ceremony of marriage is a man-made thing with civil - rather than spiritual - implications.
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Really?
  oh my.
  Y'know, things do happen even if you don't understand them. "Bigcountry doesn't know" is not the same thing as "it doesn't exist"
  
  Exhibit A:
  Abominable Ducks
  
  Exhibit B:
  Abominable Three-Way Homo Deer Fiesta
  
  Exhibit C:
  Abominable Monkeys Need a Chart to Keep Track of all the Humping
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  my father in law killed his queer ducks
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thats just not right Poor dead gay ducks! He must be a homoduckaphobe? or some other weird made up word???
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  mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  nah, he was just quacked up!
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  mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am straight duck. straight. yes I am. don't murder the straight duck! I am good duck, yes. I am.
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  mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  excuse me, while I go kiss my buddies!
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ha ha ha
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  kerrygposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LOL, you obviously don't get out much. Homosexual behavior is RAMPANT in the animal kingdom.
  
  I'd also have to question how much you actually read your Bible, since there is just as much evidence in the Bible of God's support for polygamy and concubinage as there is of his support for marriage between "one man and one woman." The Biblical patriarchs almost all had more than one wife, and many had multiple concubines in addition to multiple wives.
  
  There's also some pretty strong circumstantial evidence that David and Jonathan were doing it.
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I implied as much earlier when I was still attempting to use reason, kerry...doesn't seem to work, so I decided to change tactics...
  
  Well, I was also influenced by that picture Storm posted...hehehe
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  kerrygposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  *g* Reason doesn't work on people like him, but at least we can have some fun posting pictures of hot asses and whitetail orgies.
  
  To bad we can't embed videos here, I just dug up a video of flatworms penis fencing that I feel would make a lovely addition as well.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fx-YgcP8Gg
  
  Animal sex is crazy, yo.
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You mean they're having gay sex AND reproducing?! OMG How "unnatural" LOL...Thanks for sharing.
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Bigcountry12577posted 14 years ago
Genesis 1:26-28 (King James Version)

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  News flash: The earth is full. And we don't need everyone reproducing. I assure you.
  
  Are you aware that people everywhere are starving because there are already too many people hogging up the earth's limited resources? You act as though the species is going extinct or something.
  
  BTW: The KJV is the worst translated version of the Bible that exists. It contains thousands of errors. Get a Concordance. You might learn something.
  
  There were also openly gay couples in the Bible, at least two that I can think of off the top of my head. Their love was celebrated in the Bible.
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Bigcountry12577posted 14 years ago
Mark 10:5-7 (King James Version)

5And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.

6But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

7For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why don't you go home ???
  
  Never more appropriate the phrase
  
  'Yankee, go homme ! '
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StormRyderposted 14 years ago
I'm bisexual...does this make me a part-time abomination?
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Probably...and if that doesn't do it, I'm sure something else you're doing does. (this is tongue-in-cheek, btw).
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  This is so very true, somebody will put a tag on me for something??
  I am a depraved and twisted girl!
  I love my life!!!
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  *raises an eyebrow, holds up a sticker with the word "DEPRAVED" written on* Where shall I put the tag?
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I got just the spot!!!
  
  <image snipped>
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Woot! *slaps that sticker right on there with a satisfying pop* Damn. Nice bottom.
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  OUCH!!...Thats going to leave a mark!!
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Methinks you might like it that way...such a pretty mark too...are we going to need to even it up on the other side?
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think so!!! And just a bit harder this time PLEASE!!!!
  
  I do kinda dig pain...
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oooh, a girl who knows how to say please! How can I resist? *slightly harder pop on the other side to even it up...* Hmmm...I could get into this...
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  flread45posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Holy cow just dropped my fish in the water.
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  SWEET!
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  <image snipped>
  That really is a nice a$$~ !!
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  damn, now I need to go exercise.....
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It certainly is, yours?
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Not me....but I do think I am similar??
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I bet you wear cuter skirts.
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes...thats not a very appealing skirt I must say!
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  and your undies are wayyy sexier!!! oops..was that out loud?
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hmmm...sounds like you need a depraved sticker too.
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, Ive got several. I wear them proudly!!
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hahahaha! Good for you. Now that we've hi-jacked the thread and turned it into a bi-sexual (if not flat-out lesbian) love-fest, I have to go make some lunch..you might have to take care of Storm's bottom for me while I'm away....LOL
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Im not sure she wants it covered? if so..Im on it!! have a great afternoon!
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LOL...all the better to just take it off...we need to go to the Tribe where clothes are optional.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Now, that is certainly a believable statement Stormy. I'm willing to bet it would be similar. How are you today Stormy?
  
  @everyone else.....hello all and how is everyone doing?
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Only one way to be sure.
  
  p.s. I saw your other pic being used on some 'amatuer facebook honeys' site, lol.
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Nice try Mr V!!!
  
  I know they are everywhere thanks to my sister and her damned facebook-myspace ...I was recently told that our pictures are all over the internet now...My sis had pics on her pages that people swiped...Grrrrr...At least I'm not completely naked in any of them?? I think??
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Worth a try.
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hahahhah goober. if you look like that, be prepared for pics to be stolen.
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I didn't even know my sister had these pictures...bitch!
  
  I still love her!!
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  oh...
  
  yeah, my sister inlaw had one of me...
  
  it didnt get on line that I know of, but some peopel I prefer to have not seen it did...
  
  I THINK its gone now, but..oh well.. try feel like a celebrity I guess!!
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I guess the next question would be is....is the picture actually a picture of Stormy??????
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Or a tranny with his tackle all tucked up and sellotaped to his stomache.
  
  That's spoiled it for you hasn't it, lol
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  now that is supposed to look absolutely great to a guy! i love ie and you just made a friend ha ha ha
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hey, what'd I tell you? I know a good bottom when I see one. Just cuz I'm a girl...wanna act like I can't evaluate a sizzlin' piece of flesh...jeez...
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Anyone can tell beauty.
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You speak true, kind sir!
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ha ha ha you nut!
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Now that is completely, unequivocally true, and I wholeheartedly agree.
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  thats why they will say you're depraved and twisted!
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Be careful, JOE...you're approaching the part of the conversation where things turned really naughty.
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  what does btw mean?
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "By the way"
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If course !!
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  depends on who you ask, I guess?
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skyfireposted 14 years ago
People post verses as if they're facts..
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Mrvoodooposted 14 years ago
Some dudes just love the cock (and ladies other ladies bits), man up and deal with it. And as I'm pretty sure that they're more forgiving of hate-filled rednecks then you are of them, I know who I'd rather sit next to on a train.

If other guys wanna munch man meat I'm all for it, more available women for me.
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LMAO...See, that's the spirit. You'd think more guys could get down with that line of thinking.
  
  Good to see you, MrVoodoo.
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Good to see you too.
  
  The best thing to do is to try and convince any confused guy friends that are on the borderline and who could currently go either way that they are definetly 100% gay. Especially if they're one of those well dressed good looking charming but sexually confused guys, it's wise to get that kind of comepetition out of the way and batting for the other team.
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LMAO @ it's best to get that kind of competition out of the way!
  
  You need to do lectures! Get the word out.
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  oh jeeze.man meat....ahahahhahahahahahaaaaaaaaa
  
  that almost makes me want to go the other way...
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  When the term 'man meat' becomes a part of your standard vocabulary you know you've been watching too much porn.
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I blame you!! Hi.
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, maybe, hmmmmmmm, if only somebody could thorugh religious indoctrination and good oldy American values teach me the harms of porno, and the detrimental effect it's having upon my vocab.
  
  Hey, how you doing?
  
  Happy Easter.
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  happy easter to you too. Im laughing my butt off right now!! Id be so mad if you "fixed" your vocab. how are you?
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Good cheers, meant to be out for beers later so just killing some time before getting ready. Any easter plans?
  
  I found Stormys pic next to mine.
  
  I wasn't happy, but still, I was rated hotter.
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hahaha
  
  I forgot what I was going to say...
  
  oh yeah, easter plans...
  
  ha. Ill jsut tell you later if I live thru it!
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  Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol, I hope you survive.
  
  Here's a song you might like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEbBIswSsEA
  
  Gonna go defrost in the bath for a bit, have a good one.
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  defrost? that stinks. Ill catch up with you soon, Ive actaully got to get going, lots of cooking to do!! Have a good one Mr V!! going to stp Danzig for a sec so I can check out your song. have a beer for me!
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  sounds a bit like Jet.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iay9gyLNdBw
  
  I like it alot!
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  no really, I want to save that pic, its way too funny.
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Cagsilposted 14 years ago
Another thread dedicated to spout garbage. Garbage=Labels.

I say mind your own business and let people live their damn life their own way. Speaking out against the way people live is ridiculous and thus allowing other people more power that is 'usurped' under the moral clause of "righteousness", which is only an idea.

The fact is that the righteousness are no better than anyone else, because of the simple fact that they cannot see their own ignorance. They are blinded by their own faith and the misconception that they have a right to invade other people's life.

Again, this is ridiculous and for any person who is of the religious view is clearly over-stepping their boundaries....not to mention......they are giving themselves the right to tell others how to live, which is a misconception, because they actually do not have that right, under any circumstances.

So, those who are religious should step off and back off, because the actuality reality of the situation is that they have NO RIGHT to interfere into someone's life.

Just my thought.
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StormRyderposted 14 years ago
Sorry Bigcun....oops....country ...We have dirtied up your thread with sexual talk!!
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  it wasnt supposed to be about sex? ..oh..sorry,
  
  ps its "queer".
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Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago
I am proud to have a gay brother. I am proud to have gay friends. If you don't like it then by all means fall off the face of the Earth and leave us who KNOW that being gay isn't wrong alone!
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chigoiykeposted 14 years ago
you guys make me sick with all these senseless post on this tread. Is it still allowed to be straight? Seems everybody here is gay. SMH
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  Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  of course "its allowed" to be straight!!
  
  sorry about the sensless posts, but, well..the original post was about celebrities coming out 'quear'...and so far not one celebrity other then stormy mentioned..that in itself seemed a little silly to me?
  
  Plus, this isnt in the religous section.
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your the man who once sent me very abusive emails and then called me out on here by name aren't you? I know this because every time I search my name it comes up with that thread, so thank you for leaving that sort of footprint for me.
  
  Everybody, this is chigoiyke http://www.blackplanet.com/chigoiyke/
  
  Otherwise known as Chigo Ikechukwu, resident of Dracula. Now you can have your own name out there
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  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think the senselessness began with the original post. The rest of us are merely commenting on the puerile, bigoted, narrow-minded, uneducated trash spewed originally -and, I might add- we're doing it with much more wit.
  
  I'm so happy we could irk you today.
  
  And BTW: I'm fairly straight. But since sexuality is a spectrum, not a switch, I wouldn't expect you to understand that. I know a nice bottom when I see one.
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wyanjenposted 14 years ago
And, what does any of this have to do with celebrities?

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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  They are 'Quear' !
  
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  gotcha.
  
  Is that the Old English spelling, ya think?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I thought it was called Moronics
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StormRyderposted 14 years ago
Damn phone calls...I missed some of the fun

Hi Ray I'm doing execptionally well this fine day...doing some remodeling work on one of my bathrooms, wallpaper is a pain in the ass to get off!!....having some beers..
Going out to dinner tonight...more drinks and some dancing, fun, fun ,fun!!!
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Cool. I hope you do have fun.
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  StormRyderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I will have fun! I hope your day is as great as mine has been so far...I'm in such a good mood today...I can seem to stop smiling??? There must be something wrong with me??
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  There isn't anything wrong with you.
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chigoiykeposted 14 years ago
I really believe that guy ryankett is a psycho. She (he) is only here for 1 thing, supporting every move of washed up tantrum. DAMN 4 CHRIST SAKE! That aignt my profile
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hmm.
  Well, he seems to manage writing a hub or two every now and then...
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What difference would that have to do with anything?
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That would be TWO things he is here for
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So I'm washed up ?
  
  More washed up than your blog ?No comments in there, man! Nobody's interested in you.
  
  Almost nobody reads you here as well !
  
  Thanks for the laughs !
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  cruel tantrum ha ha
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ha ha !
  If someone deserves it ....
  
  I'm cruel and I love it !
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  mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  you look pretty clean to me, but as for "washed up" I just don't think so. there are plenty of people who agree, too!
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  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes it is your profile, I know this because you sent me several highly abusive emails. I subsequently google searched your email address, and found that profile. I actually found it all rather amusing, in fact I laughed so hard I nearly peed, your aggression and threats of violence were initially rather intimidating..... until I saw your photo of course.... you are the very definition of 'troll'...
  
  I find it all so amusing that I had to have another look http://www.blackplanet.com/chigoiyke/
  
  I haven't bookmarked that by the way, it's the only thing which appears on google when I search for your EMAIL ADDRESS.
  
  Have a good day. xxx
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chigoiykeposted 14 years ago
and for the records, thanks 4 remembring that, stalker. you know if I get another opportunity, I will make it worse, you worthless individual
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skyfireposted 14 years ago

Males need to think about their partners height else sometimes people mistake some actions for sexual postn...see this image hmmm... incompatibility wrt height..
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Gives new meaning to the phrase
  "social climber"
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TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years ago
*chuckles at all the "should-spewing" and "must-urbation"*

hahahahaha
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Cagsilposted 14 years ago
Just in case, someone forgot was beauty looks like.....

This is just one image I enjoy, but then again I am bias, because I LOVE Women.
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  Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I like bigger booty; I'm more into the big bubble butt thang, but thanks; it was still tolerable. Ha-ha!
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
Just a note to Brenda: Just because people disagree with your stand on homosexuality does not mean they are gay...

I would say that most who have argued with you about it are straight.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I will never understand why in English, heteros are called 'straight'.So by opposites, gays are 'bent'
  
  And that's why all this issues,IMO
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  mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  a serious note - I always picture a road - straight road, straight and narrow and right to the same old same old.
  
  bent (which is maybe or maybe not "gay") road - nice and twisty, curves a plenty, never can tell where it will end up!
  
  and as for the term "gay" hahaha - many terms in English are not meaning what the original use of word meant - that makes the language confusing, but also a lot of fun.
  
  I think all the gay terminology dates back to the days when gay people had to hide and be very sneaky about it and had "codes" to determine whether someone else was also gay - like "being a friend of Dorothy" etc. Friends of mine got me very drunk once and explained all the ins and outs of gay terminology and it was so much fun! Also sometimes a bit frightening imagining the huge trouble one could get into (and probably can still in some neighborhoods) just because you say the wrong thing and some "straight" redneck type wants to bust your head in for you. so I know how serious it is even tho I joke around aboutit
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  Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You could always save all that poppycock while trying to explain 'slang terms' and semantics...... We'll just call it "same gender sexuality" and perhaps abbreviate it to SGS, that way some of y'all won't get confused. Ha-ha! Personally, calling someone "straight" that doesn't perform the SGS, makes perfect sense to me.
  I see no need to complicate something with superfluous verbiage on a subject that is so simple.
  
  Who cares...we have bunghole bangers amid society, what's new? In fact, the animal kingdom has plenty of SGS performers, not counting the Homo sapiens. But, I shall enjoy the straight path and I'll let you guys work out all the kinks.
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tantrumposted 14 years ago
thanks, mega ,for the explanation ! Weird English is ! LOL
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chigoiykeposted 14 years ago
Really a world of weirdos. tantrum, to reply u, am far more better than u. U know u are a 90 yr old irresponsible mom who doesnt have life outside HP.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  If that makes you happy !
  I can be whatever you want, 'Dear' .
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JOE BARNETTposted 14 years ago
well my entire life sab oh. what is amazing to me is why people that don't like heterosexuality can't understand why we don't like homosexuality. i am a man i like feminine,pretty,soft.women. they are sweet and beautiful and sexy and curvy and smooth. what in the world would i do with a hairy muscled after six shadowed narrow hipped dude? my brother n law was gay(he died of aids) my cousin was gay( he died of aids)i am not naieve. everyone is entitled to do what they wish. i tell you i will verbally sparr with you just fine and not make my responses personal even after what i said this morning in another thread. but the question keeps coming up "is it normal"? no it's, not! thats all i say. everything that comes after that is people hating,trying to convince me to say it's normal. i don't use religion as a basis for my decision. just nature. my discussion of gay is over from this point! IF YOU SEE ME IN ONE I HAVE MADE A MISTAKE AND TELL ME TO GET OUT! DEBATE IS HEALTHY. . . . SOMETIMES!
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  myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "i like feminine,pretty,soft.women. they are sweet and beautiful and sexy and curvy and smooth"
  
  ....I do hope you know there's a lot more to women than just those things....plus many aren't any of those things either!
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  Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Personally, I just hope for the feminine part (nobody wants a tranny surprise), the rest can be "worked out" in the bedroom...LOL!
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  yes i do but those are the things that attract me initially at first glance
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  JOE BARNETTposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  well i was talking about the things that can initially strike me as attractive, after that its there personality then intellect! then if she can do the toosie roll(smile)
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  WizardOfOzposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  joe, this is related to other post you made re: aids comment.
  
  AIDS is preventable now. For those who are sexually active and smart enough to get STD checks regularly, if found early enough, the HIV virus can be managed and AIDS never developed. I have personally met two people with HIV and they were both diagnosed with the virus many years ago whom after treatment are now not even showing HIV+ in their regular and of course mandatory blood tests.
  
  So far as logic is concerned, not everyone wants to reproduce. I am heterosexual and although I have not ruled out children I really don't see it as a logical choice even if I did have children. If I did choose to have children the logic would be I want them so I am going to have them, it is simple gratification of desire. For a gay male to have a male partner is not illogical. If a guy wants a romantic partnership with a male how is it illogical, it is just about desire. There are many reasons why a man might prefer to be involved with another man. One, there is no risk of children which could be seen as a major benefit to a lot of guys. Secondly, maybe the guy doesn't get along with the more emotionally charged female. Thirdly, maybe he has been hurt by women in the past, ripped off financially, cheated on, whatever it is.
  
  Speaking from experience, I had could set the agenda and take all other factors under my control I would find a woman who left the house 1 week in every 4, had no chance of bearing children and was at least a little more wealthy than me. If we both wanted children I would think adopting to be more logical seeing how there is some poor kid out there who needs parents and many more dying from starvation or poor living conditions.
  
  Anyway, thats my rant for the day.
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Trish_Mposted 14 years ago
Well, I think that it is a case of all people being treated with equal respect, and allowing them all equal rights.

It is totally illogical and unfair to dislike someone, or to treat someone badly, because of the colour of their skin.

It is equally illogical and unfair to dislike someone, or to treat someone badly, because of the sexual orientation that they were born with.
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  Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ...And we shall all hold hands and sing "Kumbaya" while we let the background audibility say "praise be"... Ha-ha!
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