Pragmatic or necessary? 'everybody lies, everybody...'

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   Michael-Milecposted 8 years ago

   Pragmatic or necessary? 'everybody lies, everybody...'
   
   
   Considering myself  a "new" to this culture, recently has been brought to my attention " do not believe all, everybody lies, everybody..."(The rest you know.) Can you help me here, please. In essence, can you trust someone  who once lied  (to you )?!

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   Jackie Lynnleyposted 8 years ago

   It would be hard to. If they lie once then they will again.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Lying is wrong period , but we also have to face what type of lies because , there is a lie
      out of fear of hurting another , or a lie to save face, or a lie just to manipulate another out of selfishness.
      Some  people call holding back info lying.

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      Jackie Lynnleyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      He is asking if someone lied to you. Can you think of a reason you would want someone to lie to you? Even if you ask how do I look you want the truth ...don't you?

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      Michael-Milecposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Jackie, what bothers me the most, not if " they will again"-  they might or they won't, but how do I know that " this time" is not lie what " they" say even if  it is a genuine truth. As you said "would be hard to.'

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   CorneliaMladenovaposted 8 years ago

   I don't think that everybody lies, at least not all of us are compulsory liers, but yes, if somebody misleads me, I won't be able to trust them again

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      Michael-Milecposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Korneliya  something as your phrase "compulsory liars'' has initiated this  question "Pragmatic or necessary" since in present era  in social-political life rules "compulsory habit" presenting what isn't true.

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   Dana Tateposted 8 years ago

   I could not trust someone who was a compulsive liar. I do believe everyone can be untruthful at times. But in order for me to forgive, it would depend on what they lied about and why.

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      Michael-Milecposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Dana, forgiveness is easy part, forgetting is something which remains deep in memory and seemingly never leaves. (Why should "I" or how can "i" believe this time?) - crosses my mind if dealing with habitual liar.

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   Rich kelleyposted 8 years ago

   Having lived in Germany for four and a half years, France for four years and Italy for three years I can say that lies are not unique to the USA. I remember as a child that the lie would raise it's ugly head when I was in fear of punishment or maybe disappointing my parents or other adults. I don't remember doing it often, it seems the adults could read my face and know the truth despite what I was saying. Eventually I was an official adult because of my age and job that I held but more than likely I was still a child as much of me is today. I'm sure I've lied as an adult. I'm sure some were intentional and some were by omission.
   
   The question can I trust someone that has lied to me, yes. The act of repentance or remorse helps to make the process faster. The faster I can forgive the faster I can move on with helping to get things back to "normal" in the relationship that included the lie. Hopefully the forgiveness happens as instantly as they repent. The trust more than likely will happen as quickly as I can let the trespass pass.

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      Michael-Milecposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Rich,thanks for smile, "some intentional, some by omission," as if lying is OK if harmless. This " normal" idea after forgiving is strange to me, we do not forget easily a harm done  being " misled" though relationship/ business/ acquaintances  go on

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   Michael-Milecposted 8 years ago

   Kiss andTales, a lie is lie regardless of type and motivation, causing irreparable harm.

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