It's sad really. They want so badly to NOT believe there is a God.
There is proof of God everywhere. Just look. That's all.
Heck, if you want proof, just as God Himself. He will show you proof to your heart's content.
Seems to me that the demand for proof is generally in response to unsubstantiated claims that He is there coupled with a demand that the listener believe the claim and behave "appropriately" (whatever that means).
Just as your claim does. My eyes are at least as good as yours, but they see no proof. Just rationalization by believers that want to believe so badly that they will claim anything at all as absolute proof.
Then you are not really looking.
Try looking inside yourself for a start.
Ask God for proof if you can't figure it out. He will oblige, happily.
Do you want to know if there is a God, Wilderness?
"Religion is like a blind man looking in a black room for a black cat...that isn't there...and finding it.”
~~ Oscar Wilde
Are you saying we need an MRI to see God?
I would love to know the answer to that question.
Looking to my own thoughts and emotions, however, does not provide a definitive answer. There is absolutely no way to tell where those thoughts are coming from; my own mind or were they "implanted" there by a god?
"Asking" god for help produces the same dilemma; does the answer come from own emotions and desire, or from a god that stuck the answer there? Believers are happy to declare the answer is from God, but they cannot know that irregardless of what they may claim. People DO have a conscience, they DO (generally) know right from wrong and they CAN make guesses as to the future. They can produce the same answers as God can, without any intervention from Him. No way to tell where it came from.
I've always thought the people who continuously demand proof of God do want it. Why would they seek out religious people and ask for it? If they weren't interested; then they'd find more interesting things to do. But, I don't see how telling them the proof is all around them is helpful. If they believed that, they wouldn't be asking for proof.
Your right, lets try this. If there really is a god, show yourself to prove me wrong.........Maybe he's on his lunch break? I'll try again later.
There is a difference between not wanting proof, and there not being any.
On a side note, I see someone got fed after midnight again. They're all cute and cuddly till you break the rules, then this is what we get.
After posting that, I figured I'd time-stamp myself. It's from Gremlins, you're a troll.
I posted for proof of God and really would like proof. I desperately want to believe. I feel my life would be better if I believed in God. Some people just blindly believe. I can't do that. For me it's hard to believe in something that there is no tangible proof.
People who ask for proof of God usually do so in response to a religious person pestering them about their lack of beliefs. Of course they don't want any proof and there is none anyway. They just want the religious people to leave them alone and keep their religious beliefs to themselves.
Interesting. I've never once pestered someone about their lack of belief. Why do athiests insist on joining religious threads? Why don't they just stick to politics or Brittney Spears or Princess Kate's breast shots? Those are the really important issues, are they not?
And that's why you're a troll. I knew given enough time, you'd hang yourself.
Indeed they are. Perhaps there is a hard-up man somewhere out there who takes Princess Kate's heavenly breasts to be evidence of God.
Anyway, I didn't say you were pestering anyone.
Unfortunately, like politics, Britney Spear and breast shots of celebrities, your religion is out in the public forum where it doesn't belong and we would be very happy to ignore it entirely if it just remained behind closed doors where it does belong.
I disagree. This is a public religious forum.
Me knocking on your door or posting religiosity in non-religious forums would be pestering.
But unfortunately, you support the organization, the beliefs and the commands to pester the world with that religion and you create threads and posts telling us to accept Jesus. That indeed is pestering.
Don't read religious forums if you don't want to hear about religion. Problem solved!
Oh, I see now, you want me to shove it.
For the record, these are public forums, not religious public forums.
You can find a religious public forum here...
This is a public forum with many categories, not just religion.
Please make a note of this for future reference. Problem solved!
prove gods a he? i hope in a god. i don't insist that god is a man. insistence isn't proof of anything.
I would love to see proof that God exists. Please supply some. Or be quiet.
I never claimed to have proof of God.
I will never be quiet.
Then by your very own admission, your whole premise is completely absurd.
How can you plead with others to accept something as REAL whenever you have no proof? What a thoroughly indoctrinated mind?
We demand proof. If that is asking too much then you really are just playing childish, psychotic games.
Demand proof from God, not from me.
I have said before, God cannot be proven in the usual manner. Only God can provide the proof to you. Ask him.
What if I think I'm asking God, but it turns out that I'm only talking to myself...but then start believing that I'm talking to a REAL God...and start following the voices I believe to be God, but suppose that in reality, there is no God? And I become a victim of false hope, fraud, and mental illness...Could I sue you for misrepresentation?
Dear God, you have an opportunity to redeem janesix by supporting her claims.
We await your proof.
You will never be quiet and you have no proof.
And, you don't think that's obsessive behavior?
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