Why do atheists seem to congregate in the religious forums?

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   janesixposted 11 years ago

   It seems odd to me why atheists flock to the religious forums.
   
   They continue to ask for evidence of God, knowing they won't get any.
   
   It seems that they are there soley to mock believers in spirituality and God.

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      Zubair Ahmedposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I think they flock to religious forums simply because they don't realise that subconsciously their inner soul is searching for GOD.  ONly problem they are too stubborn to agree with their souls.  They ask questions about GOD knowing very well that what they accept about there being no-GOD is nothig but conjecture and misinformation.

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         A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         That, even when we understand souls, inner, outer, upper, lower, whatever... have never been shown to exist. That's like saying we don't realize subconsciously we are searching for leprechauns riding unicorns.

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      A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You mean, knowing that believers will never produce any evidence, because they don't have any, but they will dishonestly continue to claim they have seen and spoken with their god.
      
      
      
      If you act like kindergarten children, then you will get laughed at.

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         Zubair Ahmedposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Hi ATM,
         
         I'm glad that we can still have this conversation and not throw our toys at each other like some silly little kids.

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      Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Explore»Religion and Philosophy»Discussions
      
      
      Note Philosophy as well...

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         Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Crap, you beat me to it. It's Religion and Philosophy. Although I'm interested in the phycology of religion and philosophy.

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   Emile Rposted 11 years ago

   It does appear that way for a limited number of them. Apparently one, maybe two, at the moment. If they get their jollies off that way, you should be happy for them that they are entertaining themselves. I wouldn't engage in conversation with anyone I found offensive and is solely interested in mocking you. It isn't worth the frustration.
   
   If you notice, they only bother the people they know they bother. The ones they can't find an angle to upset; they leave alone.

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      Disappearingheadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I'm glad we do have the atheists about here; I think they add much to the debate and occasionally I find ATM hilarious.
      
      I think they bother those who make large claims without a supporting argument. They know that the believer can offer no evidence, that's fair enough, but the believer who makes claims with a "because the bible says" is setting themselves up as a target. If the believer forms a good argument that shows they have thought their position through, then I usually see respect from the atheist follows.

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         Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I agree, on all counts. But, I do find some of the arguments presented by the most contentious to be as unsupportable as the ones they are mocking. It devolves into a holier than thou vs holier than thou. I guess we've all caught ourselves in that position from time to time; but I consider a true atheistic view to be separated from that. 
         
         How can simple belief be so insulting? I don't have to believe any of it. But, if all someone said is that they found God it, by my thinking, simply means they were lacking something in their lives and that void was filled. Rampant mockery tells me the one mocking recognizes a similar void in themselves and begrudges the fact another human filled the void.
         
         I get arguing the actions and words which result from belief. An interpretation can ostracize. It can cause emotional harm. It can start wars. However, I don't get open rebellion against belief. It's like the argument in defense of the right to own a firearm. God doesn't hurt people. People hurt people.

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            Disappearingheadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            OK I'll modify my stance a little. There are atheists here who are respectful and respect a good intellectual debate. There are others who believe they have reached some nirvana of atheist enlightenment and consider believers to be either of lower intelligence, or simpletons that can't think for themselves.
            
            To be honest the old 'where is the evidence for God' debates are rather boring now and I tend to leave them alone. Much more interesting is where the atheist parks their unbelief to one side and takes up a 'hypothetical' position of debating with the believer over what they think God is like; what interpretations of religious texts could mean; or the historical framework in which they were written. For example the ancient historian Bettany Hughes who's done a number of documentaries on British television is not a believer herself, but she marvels at the bible as a great work in itself, finds it a fascinating insight into Jewish culture and history.
            
            It's the intelligent debates on both sides that makes Hubpages interesting.

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               Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Again, agreed.

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               Motown2Chitownposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               All so true and well stated, DH.  I've noticed that in my time at HP, as I've developed sincere friendships with folks who believe quite differently from me, that each began with an actual dialogue where we all set aside our preconceived notions of how believers and nonbelievers should communicate and moved on from there. 
               
               I think there is a mindset among those who discuss religion, from whatever side, that every discussion has to be an argument.  Every conversation has to have a person defending a position rather than two people actually attempting to understand the position of the other.  And, the nature of the conversation already determines that neither person can defend their position perfectly due to the ultimately unknown nature of the subject.
               
               It's an interesting and vital subject to discuss.  What happens too often, IMO, is that people lose sight of the subject and because they can't rein it back in, they resort to mockery, insults, and antagonistic attitudes in an effort to continue the conversation. 
               
               Short answer - atheists find the subject interesting or they wouldn't attempt to discuss it.  As do believers.  If they could both find a way to discuss it with continuity and respect, it would be endlessly enlightening.

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                  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  "Short answer - atheists find the subject interesting or they wouldn't attempt to discuss it.  As do believers.  If they could both find a way to discuss it with continuity and respect, it would be endlessly enlightening."
                  
                  Perfect.

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               Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               To all theists within hearing/reading distance.
               
               I've been guilty of asking for evidence. You are right in that I ask and know I'll not receive anything, but I only ask it from those who make the claim that God supplies information to them or they have one on one contact with God. They always say it doesn't work that way and they are correct because that voice they claim to hear doesn't come from outside their head, that's why it doesn't work that way.
               
               When they stop making those claims I'll stop asking for evidence.

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                  Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Filipinos 32:4.5 "Thou shall not ask for evidence. This is abhorrent to the Lord thy God."

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                     Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     LOL Why must you always bring race into the conversation?

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                        Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Are you implying the Lord thy God is another ethnic group? They told me he was white, Anglo Saxon and protestant. Is there no end to the lies?

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                           Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           You just told me he was Filipino.

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                              Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              If I quoted Numbers, would he be a number?

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                                 Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 You're flirting with me aren't you? LOL

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                                    Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    Damn. I'm so transparent.

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                                       Deepes Mindposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                       All Right, you two... Get a Room...lol

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                           Motown2Chitownposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           Everyone knows Jesus is Catholic.  He's dark, swarthy, and most importantly, poor.  That's what Catholics are.  Hence...
                           
                           

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                              Deepes Mindposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              Catholic?? For a second I thought you were talking about african american

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                                 Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 The second coming... First WE get Obama and then Jesus...

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                                    Motown2Chitownposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    Be careful...you know there are a LOT of folks out there who truly believe President Obama is indeed the Messiah.
                                    
                                    

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                                       Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                       And there are a lot of people who think he's Satan. That silvered tongued devil.

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                                          Motown2Chitownposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                          I just think .... well, no need to get into politics here.  Our religious discussions are divisive enough.  Except for you and me, of course.  We still love each other, no matter what.
                                          
                                          

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                                             Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                             Amen, all most sister.

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                                 Motown2Chitownposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 Hmmm....maybe.  Perhaps He isn't Catholic then.  Maybe He's Baptist after all.  In which case, I'm screwed!

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                                    Deepes Mindposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    only if he's missionary or southern baptist...lol

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                                       Motown2Chitownposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                       Oh, please....Here I thought I'd been doing everything right all these years.  Think it'll help I married a man raised in a Southern Baptist tradition? 

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                                          Deepes Mindposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                          Perhaps.. I dunno

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                                             Motown2Chitownposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                             Crap...should I consider divorce?  Oh, wait, I'm Catholic.  That won't work.  Murder?
                                             
                                             Thanks be to God that you know me well enough to recognize that I'm joking, Deepes.  Someone is going to reply to this, you know.  Either to convert me from Catholicism or to turn me in to someone as a psychopath.
                                             
                                             

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                                                Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                You want I should have someone wacked? LOL

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                                                   Motown2Chitownposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                   But you left that life behind...I don't want to drag you back into the muck and mire that was your Black Ops days.....

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                                                      Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                      Alright, alright. And I was just about to get my sling shot out of the shed.

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                                                         Deepes Mindposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                         Does it have a scope?

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                                                            Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                            Sure, it's called my eye glasses.

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                                                               Deepes Mindposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                               LOL

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                                                   Deepes Mindposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                   

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                                                Deepes Mindposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                Not murder.. maybe arrange an accident .
                                                
                                                Humor makes things fun here

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            A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            

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               Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               And I had you pegged for a non believer. How many people has God hurt? I've been curious for evidence in his existence. An approximate number (or, heck, any) would be helpful.

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         Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Bingo. We have a winner.

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   Beth37posted 11 years ago

   All really good comments.

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   insearchof truthposted 11 years ago

   I have often wondered about the question posed by this post too. I don't know what the answer is.

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   Beth37posted 11 years ago

   "If you act like kindergarten children, then you will get laughed at."
   
   And he says he never makes personal insults.

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      Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe he was simply explaining why he feels that he is being laughed at.

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      A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It isn't, sorry you have yet to understand.

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         Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Right, cause that wasn't even slightly condescending.

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            A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Actually, this is what is really condescending...
            
            

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               Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Z man said Christianity was make believe. I decided if he could state that as if it were fact, I would also share my beliefs factually. Claiming something is fact does not necessarily make it so. I'm sure we would both agree on that.

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                  A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  But, you will claim your God is a fact, nonetheless.

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                     Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     And you will claim He is not. Get how this works?

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                        A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Yes, you claim an invisible super being talks to you and I claim recommended professionals for you to see.

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                           Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           Would you like to play scrabble?

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   Zelkiiroposted 11 years ago

   Because letting people stagnate in make-believe nonsense and ignorance is, ironically, not something Jesus would have done.

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      Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You are not correct in thinking that God is not real.
      You are not correct in thinking that He didn't create you.
      You are not correct in thinking He doesn't love you.
      You are not correct to mock Him.
      
      Now you can't say you were never told.

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         A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         The God Police.

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      Lie Detectorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You feel the need to rescue people?

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   donotfearposted 11 years ago

   Why do atheists seem to congregate in the religious forums?
   
   Ya know, you've got a good point!  Hah!!

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