People that insult "religious" people
Then why are you practicing here with such an attitude?
Well I doubt seriously anyone likes losing anything. However, i understand how you feel though. I for one didn't appreciate it when some moronic hubber called me an imbecile one time just for saying his crappy "Matrix trilogy" sucked in forums. Granted, a movie series is nowhere near as sacred and valuable to people as religion is, but I do know how you feel in a sense that I didn't appreciate someone calling me out just for having an opinion of my own.
However, I'm over it now. Besides, the guy and the moron that laughing with him were both idiots anyway, as they had the audacity to say that all films are commercialized. Can you believe that? I know some movies are like the Transformers films, but to say all of them? Do people not know of independent films? Federico Fellini anyone? Anyone here heard of Akira Kurasawa? Or seen the latest Martin Scorsese movie lately, huh? God, some people are so stupid when it comes to movies. I guess that explains why Transformers is always a hit at the box office.
I apologize if I offended anyone with that statement, but I was just laughing at the two people i was debating with at the time, and not anyone else here. To get back to the topic at hand though.
The trick Rosie is to not care what others think, even when they mock you. If you get offended by their remarks, then your best case is just to ignore them. Besides, the important thing is that YOU believe in what you believe. Everyone else can go f*** themselves! Just laugh it off. Trust me, if you allow your emotions to get the better of you in any rationalize debate, then you could end up speaking merely out of emotion rather than rational thought. Hence, it's never a good idea to let your emotions get in the way of debating.
You obviously never watched a presidential debate, huh?
Hi qwark.
"What others think of me is none of my business" covers it I reckon.
no, but I think it is mean, or ignorant,
or unnecessary because I try not to be.
So being rude is unkind and makes me lose respect for that person.
I could say evil...because "evil" is a word that to me the meaning can be many things and I use it loosly lol
Just like I call people monkey kitty....I love to be silly....in my own wayIts a good point, that it causes respect to be lost. Being rude and insulting shows ones hand right off too. The start off "losing" in that regard. I say keep the insults out, and debate or discuss matters at hand, whatever they are. I think this is better for all involved.
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/59978#post1334078
"Most" believers do not seem to practice what they preach.
Correct me if I am wrong - but the bible gives pretty clear instructions as to what a genuine Christian does. Have you ever met any one who does what Jesus told them to do if they want to follow him?Aww Jerami - how little you know "the Nonsense"
Acts 4:32. And the congregation of those who believed were of one heart and soul; and not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own; but all things were common property to them. 34. For there was not a needy person among them, for all who were owners of land or houses would sell them and bring the proceeds of the sales,
4:35. and lay them at the apostles’ feet; and they would be distributed to each, as any had need.
Luke 14:33 "Only the man who says goodbye to all his possessions can be my disciple."
Luke 14:33 Concluded Jesus, "none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up everything he has."
Luke 14:33 "Whoever of you does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple."
Luke 3:11 John answered, "The man with two tunics should share with him who has none, and the one who has food should do the same."
Luke 6:30 "Give to everyone who asks you, and do not ask for your property back from the man who robs you.
Luke 12:33 "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. "
Now "interpret" them away Jerami.Aww - Jerami - your poor command of English is letting you down again.
A disciple is a follower and student of a mentor, teacher, or other wise figure.
"Disciple" (Christianity), a follower of Jesus Christ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disciple
"any follower of Christ."
"a person who is a pupil or an adherent of the doctrines of another; follower:"
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disciple
Disciple has many meanings - one of which is simply "follower," or "pupil."
From the Latin "discipulus" meaning pupil, student or follower. The fact that you prefer the meaning that means you do not have to follow Christ's teachings is rather typical of your belief system.
So - who is Creating their own PRIVATE interpretation? Me - taking the words at their face value spoken to anyone who wishes to follow? Or you - making the term "disciple," strictly meaning those apostles in his life time? Oh - and only that one rich person he was speaking to? None of which applies to you does it?
You don't have to let a thief keep what he has stolen from you. You don't need to turn the other cheek. You don't need to love your neighbor as you love yourself. None of it applies to you - does it?LOL In that case - using your faulty logic - there ain't any such thing as a Christian and as none of it was sed directly to you - none of it applies.
Right?
Have we stumbled on the great Christian get-out clause? Moses handed the tablets to a band of wandering Jews - therefor the ten commandments do not apply to you? Eureka!
Oh, yeah, and you all come SO close
One thing the Jesus clan never will run out of is hypocrisy.
Hello Schoolgirl:
I've said this many times in these forum comments.I'm going to repeat myself:
One cannot be insulted unless one gives his/her permission.
I can't be insulted because to be insulted is a choice I make and I won't allow it.
Why do you allow yourself to be insulted?
If you are secure in your position, why don't you consider the source and go your way?
Qwark:
Generalizing goes both ways. Atheists believing that all believers are worthy of insults is the same as all believers think that all atheists are worthy of insults.
The truth is that there are many of both groups who have respect for people regardless of belief, and don't stoop to common, childish insults.
Further, I think qwark, Earnest and habee have it right.Agreed.
Offense is taken, not given.
Would a religious person be as upset about a perceived insult if the person slinging the garbage was of the same religion?
Or vice-versa?
Let's test. Hit me with something, guys! Thank you Daniel!
Absolutely!
Well - I am pretty sure being a christian or an atheist does not necessarily make one a good or bad person - I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in preaching against something that one does themselves.
If you don't say ridiculous things, I won't point out that I think they are ridiculous
Seriously, I don't mind minor stuff. I'm not one of those atheists that goes nuts if I sneeze and someone says "God Bless you!". I know it's almost a reflex.
I don't get upset about a religious sentiment on a Xmas card or a minor thing as part of an email about something else. I'll quietly ignore all that.
But when I get "REPLY TO THIS EMAIL IF YOU LOVE JESUS!", yeah, I WILL reply. And it won't be pretty
on both ends. plus an enormous waste of time IMO. what does it really matter what someone chooses to believe. nobody knows anything for certain. we just think we do.
but I do agree with someone else who said we allow ourselves to be insulted. an insult doesn't have to be taken personally. it's not about you.
"there is no argument in the world that carries the hatred that a religious belief does." Will Rogers 1924A christian offering this as criticism
I agree 100%
Hi schoolgirlforreal, It's disrespectful and rude when some of the unbelievers enter a forum which a believer has opened, and begin to ridicule the believer's faith. I respect and tolerate unbelievers, but I will not respect and tolerate this type of behavior of grownups. In spite of all the ugly insults toward my faith, I will continue to love them regardless
Hi oceannusunsets, Thank you very much for the kind compliment.
I don't believe no christian or anyone should be a doormat. I strive in doing what's right and obeying the word of God. It's not always easy to love my enemies, but it can be done with the help of the good Lord. Love and blessings to you! You are more than welcome, and thanks for the compliment.
No, I don't think it's fair either to be labeled "not good thinkers" because we choose to believe in God.It's like saying christians are not intelligent because we believe in a God we can't see. We can't see air, but we all believe it's there. The insults never anger me, for I know God is the ony one who can define who I truly am.
I respectfully disagree with you. Proof and faith is a combination of God's true existence in my life. This is my experience and there is no need for you start a debate. I am done.
All feelings are true but not all feelings tell the truth
I hope everyone believe in the existence of air. It was formed by the awesome creator in order for us to breathe. I will not waste time to explain over again that a spiritual being will never be proven to exist by physical evidence. Love and blessings to all.
You are too funny
You have a right to your own beliefs, and we as christians have a right to believe what we desire. Hopefully, you will use your intelligence to respect that. Have a Happy Day! So by diverting to condescension you agree that there is no way to validate the premise of your religious beliefs?
Yes, you have the right to your own mind, and I respect that, but whenever someone else has poisoned it to the point of psychosis, I am compelled to disagree with you, on the grounds of human decency.
Again and again, you make assertions, without any sensible rebuttals to our rebuttals, yet you don't see the brutal dishonesty and blatant disrespect you are exhibiting.
It appears that your belief is merely wishful thinking. That's all.
You have no proof that it is anything more, yet you assert it as fact.
Oh! Have a nice day!
Sorry, I was not agreeing with you.
Just a note on air. It's easy to see, just add smoke.
If that's what you believe. Keep the note.
I don't really have respect for people who say silly things.
I mean I thought people wanted to seek the truth
or at least discuss without insulting
- markbennisposted 14 years ago
0As an observer from the outside, I must admit!
Jerimi you are very strong in your beliefs, out numbered and full steam ahead, I do respect you, you are determined and unresolved, unshaken and an example to faith, powerful you are in your pursuit of your belief!
You have got to respect some-one's persistence and endurance to constantly stand in defiance to what he believes!
I think you deserve more then you endure, all the best, Mark.I think we should support each other like the others do.
I don't see that happening much thou?
I believe that hope is a whole lot different to faith in a fantasy as fact.
Schoolgirl, you are NOT too young and innocent to be in here
I am afraid that that is part of the intent of the put downs, and nitpicking and making you feel put on the defensive. You are doing great, and keep up the good work. I look forward to reading more of your hubs, especially if you are not about the put downs! I don't like those either, and we need more like you no matter what they believe. Just kind to all, wanting fairness for all.
Here are some people who insult religion and everyone else with a mental age over 5!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bf6_1180234718and so typical!
Mark, you are proving her right actually. I haven't seen that she thinks she is a better person at all, in fact she is very honest and taking a very humble stance here. She is feeling badly, and more is heaped on Like that you are saying she is seeming to demand respect, when really she keeps repeating that she just wants to not be put down. You also imply or suggest above that she is believing something because it makes her feel good, when the opposite is obviously true. She is believing it despite the treatment she gets!
You then assault the bible she believes in, by saying that it can be believed by people that distance themselves from the reality we live in. That isn't true at all. You misunderstand what is simple to understand, that she was asking about insulting and putting down, and calling her belief the cause for that, which isn't true. You make her points all for her, and so YES she does make a lot of sense.
If anything, it is posts like this that should bolster her belief. Please consider not accusing so much please in the future. Its hurtful, and this after she expressed her feeling badly is insult to injury. Some one needs to stand up for what is right here.
School, I am sorry you feel sick, and please don't feel like you are alone in feeling sickened by what you see in regards to the rudeness and putting down.
I feel badly that you were being truly genuine, and that you were really only proved totally right but that it had to take more negative insults to prove it. It means you are actually on to something, see?
If you think about it, its really another way that the truth is actually being revealed. Think back to where you may have heard about these exact kinds of things playing out? No one can make whatever is the actual truth, truth, it just IS. I hope that made sense. My point is, that in the effort to hurt and put down, many are actually pointing to the real truth. Isn't that odd?
The world, history, and even this dilemma you brought up that we all observe, shows one view in particular to be real and true. Let this be an encouragement to you! No one can make a thing true or not, no matter how hard they bully or put down or gang up. Whatever is true, will always be true no matter what. That is encouraging.HI ocean sunsets
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Yes, Jesus said He was not of this world and the world hated him and they will hate us too.
I am glad if anyone benefits from this thread as you said, the truth coming out because for me, I care and it's worth the pain.
God bless!
Earnest delights in making God appear evil by perverting the true meaning of the scriptures. He often spreads false information that God freely kills anyone who doesn't believe in him. What a sad way of comprehending the bible.
Saying god exists above all irrespective of religion makes one brave and widely open minded and then running away when it comes to empirical proof for god's existence or your personal hypothesis of god or widely open minded religious views doesn't make one narrow or coward ?
how convenient ?
How to be a open minded person ? Start thinking logically.
Be creative and create a god who sent his son from -
Universe > out of Galaxies (2k/3k) select one > Milky way galaxy > Our solar system > Earth > Mary's womb.
Why he sent his son to mary when he can simply program his species with one trigger of free will is blasphemy from skepticals. they're fools with narrow mind ya know.
Now being a son of god christ did all the miracles but when it comes to his own life, he was like helpless kitteh on cross. Now try to be a widely open minded person and accept this helpless kitteh as god who's going to be your savior next time he visits this planet instead of finding flaw to his inability to save his life and in turn yours.
Like this you have plenty of widely open minded logically rich creamy stories. If you don't bellieve in these open minded logical stories then your brain is closed to christ, so rot in hell.
You're Graduate in open minded life.And it rages on.................
He's afraid of the Pope.
How rude!
Hi skipper! How are you?
God loves everyone
He died for all
not for one race, or one type of people...for all
no discrimination
Let us be the same and be kind to all
we not judging but loving
Jesus Christ showed by his earthly example as did other peacemakers
My friend who is atheist, someone I never expected to admit that Jesus' teachings were good.
We need inspiration
We need good decent examples
Perhaps this thread will inspire someone
if it does it was worth it....all of it
God would have died on the cross even if it saved one person, not just many.
What a beautiful God of love we have
What more do we need to succeed?
When you have God, you cannot lose. You've already beat the world and the flesh and the devil and won.
If you don't believe in God you may be scared to die or at your death bed change your mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eDJa2TaFrI
I really wish you well.
I've noticed that saints are very joyful at their deathbeds and peaceful. Oh what a moment to not "know what's on the other side" and to have spent our whole lives rejecting God or the idea of God, and it's too late then.
Like the story of the prisoner who was sentenced to death.
And the governor told the guard to deliver a message to him that he was found innocent and to set him free.
But the inmate (like a hardened sinner...) refused to let the guard near him saying "No! Don't come near me!" And the devil hates anything holy.
Then the prisoner found out he could have been freed but it was too late. He cried "No! I change my mind!"
But on our deathbed, it will be too late to change our mind, our life of not believing , it will be too difficult to change at the last moment....in most cases,,,,,many people cannot even forgive themselves let alone be humble to be forgiven by a God....it takes alot of humility to accept Christ as your Savior...to admit you've done wrong-sinned and to ask for forgiveness and to accept the gift of salvation paid by Christ on the Cross....free! and not have to give back.
Though once saved one wants to give back, to do good. By the spirit within him.
But the road to heaven is narrow, and few there are that find it.
Good luck.
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