Spirituality: Seeing the World, as It Really Is

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  1. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 4 years ago

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    I want to share certain things with you. You (most of you) are antagonistic towards established and organized religions of the world.

    I must say that, factually, we are (every animal & every human being) 'spirits'. And spirituality is a very practical issue, and not some romantic notion that is only relevant to the parts of 'Venice speech'. Our (in the West) culture is basically focused on developing comforts in the material realm, and we have done a pretty good job at that.

    But material comfort alone can not bring happiness to a human being, if we constantly ignore and suppress his/her spiritual needs.


    We have a lot of work to do together on that.



    As I see it, the human entity is composed of two things:  a physical human body, & self consciousness or spirit [most of the time we
    are satisfied to simply call it mind]. We may use any word to indicate this thing - but - what is truly important is this: that this thing is a reality.

    As I know (and many others know) - this thing comes preloaded with its unique features [example: by default, it both carries and aspires things like love, happiness, friendship and companionship, peace, understanding, prosperity etc.

    The pursuit of these things (in want of a better word) can be termed as spirituality.



    One of my contentions is that religion and spirituality are two completely separate issues. We would do well not to mix these two. We are spiritual beings. We all aspire love, happiness, friendship and companionship, peace, understanding and prosperity. And you can deny religion. But you can not deny these.

    Those achieve these, and to establish these into this world - we first need to regain our, so to speak, 'spiritual eyesight'. That is: Seeing the World as It Really Is.

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      Rad Manposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Right, we need to attempt to see the world as it really is, not how we wish it to be.

      1. God shet profile image60
        God shetposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."

        ~ Tenzin Gyatso (The 14th 'Dalai Lama')

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          Rad Manposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          That's nice, but it has nothing to do with my post.

          Love is an emotion that humans have evolved to feel.

          Compassion is also part of our evolution.

          Pretending our minds are spirits that transcend our bodies is wishful thinking which gives some a false reason for showing love and compassion.

          1. God shet profile image60
            God shetposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you very much for sharing your wisdom with us. My previous post was about pointing out a certain reality that every living thing share.

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              Rad Manposted 4 years agoin reply to this

              Every living things needs love and compassion? Really? Where do you get this stuff. Do I need to point out other creatures that do not need love and/or compassion?

              1. God shet profile image60
                God shetposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                I was just expecting this deep wisdom from you to come out frankly. Thank you very much.

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                  Rad Manposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  You've got nothing? "'spiritual eyesight'. That is: Seeing the World as It Really Is".

                  I'm pointing our reality. You are making statements that don't connect with reality.

                  Examples:
                  "I must say that, factually, we are (every animal & every human being) 'spirits'."
                  "My previous post was about pointing out a certain reality that every living thing share."

                  You've got to be able to back up your statements. I'm waiting for your deep wisdom.

                  1. God shet profile image60
                    God shetposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                    Thank you again for displaying your other virtues, including 'patience'.

    2. Righteous Atheist profile image61
      Righteous Atheistposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      "Factually," - that word does not mean what you appear to think it means.

      Spirituality has absolutely nothing to do with love, happiness, friendship etc. Spirituality is a wholly subjective, internal experience.

      I have to say I am somewhat shocked at your apparent lack of understanding - considering you are supposed to be lecturing on this subject soon. The World is a hard place, no matter how much you Capitalize Your Sentences. wink

      1. God shet profile image60
        God shetposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        I'll be expecting you during the 'Live Question & Answer' session. Anyway, it's a fact that every human being (and it's true about other lifeforms, too) have a 'world within him/her', and it is also a fact that 'others' can engage and interact with that 'inner world': we are constantly doing it anyway.

        1. Righteous Atheist profile image61
          Righteous Atheistposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Prove it.

          My "world within" is actually my imagination. Go ahead - interact with it. wink

          1. God shet profile image60
            God shetposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            You should hope that you haven't interacted.

            1. Righteous Atheist profile image61
              Righteous Atheistposted 4 years agoin reply to this

              Experiential interaction in truth transforms species specific potentiality.

    3. wilderness profile image98
      wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Can you define this "spirit" that you say we all are?  What is it made of?  Where can it be found?  Does it interact in any way with energy or matter?  What is it's weight? 

      Everyone tosses this word around as if the definition is understood: it is not.  Please define, and in a manner that it can be checked if the definition is factual.

    4. Alastar Packer profile image82
      Alastar Packerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Anders, you and I are not so far about in the thoughts you expressed here. Are you knowledgeable about one of the most mis-understood man in the 2oth century and up until today? A.Crowly? Our main question is why you keep attributing to R Godwin's supposed sly ways to making compensation on HP. Anders, he is man of the handshake and when he feels the other one has breached that trust the man is I said before is tenacious. Honest honest men are fast disappearing breed for the world and a better friend you will never find. Try to look at the thing from a different perspective and you may get closer to the truth concerning him.

      1. God shet profile image60
        God shetposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        His attitude towards HubPages is quite misguided. Well, not saying that anyone of us is perfect. But this whole thing has matured more quickly than I expected.

        It's not that I'll be going there on his hub for the rest of my life.


        I've read your stuff, Alastar, and I was delighted to find that you share similar interests. The internet has opened a novel avenue for connection.

  2. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
    Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

    Hi shet. Why would you start this thread and open up this can of worms? You know the naysayers will come and refute ESP and invisible blue prints (and even love and the need for love!! This is new! ) … anyway, I agree with your point. More would come on and agree if they wanted to get a word in edgewise.

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
    Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

    Spirit is the essence of reality.
    Reality is nature
    Nature is will
    We are will
    Will is soul.
    Soul is God.

    Religion is conceptual.
    Concepts are based on ideas,
    Ideas are thoughts,
    Thoughts come from thinkers,
    Thinkers are souls,
    Souls originate from God.

    (...something like that.)

    1. Righteous Atheist profile image61
      Righteous Atheistposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      The invisible is an ingredient of the progressive expansion of reality.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
        Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        ( ! )

 
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