Life on other planets Vs. Religion

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   Phocas Vincentposted 10 years ago

   
   With the recent discoveries of planet upon planet in the habitable zones of their respective energy source stars, what do you suppose would come of modern religions if the scientific endeavors of  astronomers and astrophysicist ever were able to prove the undeniable evidence of life on a planet other than Earth, especially those such as Christianity that names our planet the soul barrier of diverse life as dictated by God. With such evidence could religions such as Scientology, seen today as a cult religion be given new traction or would ideologies such as atheism consume man; would core religions such as Christianity adapt to such evidence to survive the revolution forced by science?

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      Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Christianity doesn't name this planet as the sole barrier of life as dictated by God, but I think evidence of life elsewhere in the universe would create a problem for someone who believed such. I don't see evidence of life as a reason for any religion, cult or atheism to gain traction. Why would it?

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         MonkeyShine75posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         I've heard religious people say that there are no aliens, and that those who think they've encountered one, actually encountered Satan. I've also heard them say the people on Earth are God's only creation

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            Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Those Christian who encountered aliens, did they say the aliens looked like man.?

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               MonkeyShine75posted 10 years agoin reply to this

               I didn't say Christians encountered Aliens
               
               I'm a little baffled by the way new people are greeted here, but maybe I'll understand it at some point in time.

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                  Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  To your way of thinking there is no christians  think aliens exist outside of them being satan.
                  Just tring to get it right.
                  
                  The Christians I've encountered that claim to have seen an
                  aliens,say he dose look like man.
                  
                  Don't want to be rude about the unknowns.

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                     MonkeyShine75posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     To my way of thinking? Where did I say that "no Christians think aliens exist"
                     wow, you guys are funny, you're kidding right?

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                        Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        I have to walk on eggs shells whentalking to christians aboutaliens, for Jesus maybe one
                        himself.
                        
                        Do you think
                        an alien would look like man?

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            Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I've heard a lot of things. I once heard a school teacher say satan was an anagram of santa, therefore Santa is evil. Should i make general assumptions about all school teachers based on that? Making assumptions and broad statements  concerning anything, based on what a limited number of people have stated is rarely advisable and invariably short sighted.

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               Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Why does the bible not explain aliens then. Too often Christians tell me about eliens looking like man or part of satan.

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                  Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I don't claim to be able to speak for people I don't know or possess the ability to defend heresay. I do think that it is better to take individual statements as just that. Not to attempt to project personal beliefs onto the broader population and make assumptions about others because of my personal belief as to their personal belief. It gets really muddy the further you attempt to slog into conjecture.

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               MonkeyShine75posted 10 years agoin reply to this

               What broad statements, and assumptions am I making?

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                  Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  You did reply to my statement questioning his assertion that Christianity claims 'this planet as the sole barrier of life as dictated by God' with the following:
                  
                  I've heard religious people say that there are no aliens, and that those who think they've encountered one, actually encountered Satan. I've also heard them say the people on Earth are God's only creation
                  
                  I took that to mean it was your understanding that since people you label religious made those statements that it is your assumption that is the general belief within organized religion they claim affiliation with. If that was not your intend then I do apologize for the misunderstanding.
                  
                  My primary point is that individuals believe what they believe; for myriad reasons. You can't tie that into any more than a particular group within the broader structure of religion. A miniscule percentage; at best. And it isn't only religion which leads us to conclusions on a universal scale. I know many atheists who don't think that there are aliens. Of course, they don't believe that satan causes people to think they've encountered one. They simply label those who believe they have seen one as delusion, or lying. However, that does not imply that all atheists scoff at the idea of life on other planets. It's simply an individual assumption at odds with one I hold.

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                     MonkeyShine75posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     You made the general statement that “christianity doesn’t say this planet is the sole barrier of life”
                     http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/128372#post2702688
                     
                     So I stated “ I've also heard them say the people on Earth are God's only creation” (christians, not all christians)
                     which was not a generalization, just a true statement, no more, and no less. I said nothing to offend anyone. If anyone can get offended over my statement about what I’ve “heard”, the offense didn’t come from me. The people who said this to me were all of the christian church, so I assume they are religious
                     
                     The other person also thought I was saying that no christian believes there are aliens, which I didn’t
                     http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/128372#post2702991

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                        Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        I'm not sure why you are using the word 'offended' in this conversation. No one has implied that they thought anyone would be offended.
                        
                        Yes, I did make that statement. Some Christians may have made the statement you were quoting and some Christians may believe what the OP has said, but stating that Christianity asserts either idea is not correct. And you have pointed out that you were quoting some Christians not claiming that is Christian belief; although that is not what I took to be the implied intent of your response to my initial comment on this thread. My only point in commenting on this thread was because the OP states that Christianity holds a certain belief; which is not true. If you have been offended by my participation on this thread I suppose I apologize.

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                           MonkeyShine75posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           I didn't state that about christianity, but about a few religious people, that is the point I was making.
                           When I say religious people, I do not always mean christians, because christians aren't the only religious people.
                           However. I think I will stop with this now, since you are not understanding what I have said

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                              Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              That's fine. However, I would think you could understand that you did create the confusion by responding to my post with that statement.

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      Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      No living creature has been found on any other planet.
      
      If we do find an alien, more likely they will find us first.
      
      Do not imagine an alien would look like man. Could blow the concept of man was
      made in the image of God.

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      jacharlessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Regardless of the term associated with Creator and the philosophies surrounding, proof of life on other planets would further solidify the existence of Creator. Therefore the philosophies surrounding would be further bolstered, perhaps even new philosophies emerge. The scientific side of Theos continuously renews the sensational side, even as the sensational encourages science.

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         Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         If Christian find three planets where their leaders look like man, I will join your faith.
         
         Very unlikely you will get your spaceship off the ground without the help of the unbeliever sciencist.

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            Emile Rposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Food for thought. Science and Christianity are not mutually exclusive. Never have been. I do believe if you take all of what you qualify as 'unbeliever' scientists out of the equation we'll still continue to progress along. The perceived conflict between religion and science is a struggle the individual needs to recognize as a personal problem that should be reflected on and resolved.

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               Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Since most scientist are unbeliever, a Christians spaceship would have alot less chance of finding an alien to match their ego image of a man looking like God. Nice fairy tale but dose not work  well with science.

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      Sed-meposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      There are real pics of outer space that are far more amazing than the drawn ones.
      

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         Phocas Vincentposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         I completely agree Sed-me, an endless frontier of beauty; I wish I could witness it all in my short time on Earth. I Can't imagine the images that will be sent back home for decades to come as long as our space mission stays vibrant and alive.
         
         

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      Writer Foxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Judaism has always accepted other life forms in the universe.  In fact, that is what Elohim are.  Although we are made in their image, they are a totally different species of being.  Also, there are other beings such as the Cherubim. No where in the Hebrew Bible does it state that earth is the only place of life in the universe.  In fact, just the opposite.  When the God of Israel appears, he "comes down" from His celestial abode.

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         Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Are Jews aliens?

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            KJ Belangerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I know a couple I'd consider Aliens But I jest to lighten this mood

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   Afogposted 10 years ago

   To know that God is a Creator God is to understand that He creates. Of course there are other worlds and creatures made Him. But when looking for aliens we must be careful what we expect and what we think we saw. To Eve, the serpent was an alien or could have been because she supposedly encountered  the only animal that could talk. But that was a lie because the serpent was being used as a medium. If you believe in God at all, then you surely must know that evil angels can transform themselves just the same as Holy Angels can appear as men.
   If an evil angel wants to dupe someone, posing as some kind of "alien" form is a very easy undertaking in today's climate of thought. But there is one thing that can be done to eliminate the false from the real.  I learned a long time  ago that if a being appears and you want to qualify whether it's genuine or not you can say "If you are not here as sent by God, then, in Jesus name,  you must leave." Of course you must be talking from a platform of believing in God.  God does not employ deceptive measures to dupe anyone.
   So if you just love aliens you will have plenty to  exercise your mind, but if you want the truth then you know where you must find it.
   
   Have a great day.

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      MonkeyShine75posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      From my understanding, the Serpent was an angel, and the crawling on his belly was symbolism that simply meant he could never again rise to the position with God that he had before he tempted man.
      He wasn't an animal as you call it, nor a reptile, but an fallen angel who appeared as a man

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         Afogposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         The serpent was a snake one of God's creatures, but Lucifer the fallen angel now known as Satan spoke through the serpent. the serpent was cursed after the temptation prevailed.
         
         thanks for your interest and response. God bless.

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            MonkeyShine75posted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Lucifer is a Latin word inserted into the bible, and has never meant Satan, but the Son of the Dawn and was inserted in Isaiah where it is speaking of an Assyrian King
            The Serpent, Satan was a fallen angel...there were no dead people, and no mediums

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               Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Oh! That explain eliens they really serpents or fallen angels.
               
               Explain to me how did you imagine this up when the earth is 99 % unknown to earthlings collectively. Let alone taking a Religious spaceship to check out it all within the Universe.

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   insearchof truthposted 10 years ago

   I don't see why Christianity and aliens are exclusive concepts. I agree with the posts on here that God created other types of beings mentioned in the bible other than man, and I think logically that if you believe in God it would be closed minded to think that in the vast universe He wouldn't create other beings and worlds.

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