THE FEAR OF DEATH

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   Osa Osazuwa-Tosanposted 15 years ago

   The fear of death is the root of failure, the beginnng of foolishness. If you are afraid to die you will never live. Death is not real. It is an aberration. You can rise above the fear of death. Yet the fear of death reigns supreme in men and women.
   
   There's much to be said on the subject, but I can't say all here now for lack of time. You can get the total package on <snipped - do not start threads to promote your hubs in the forums>

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      lol
      
      Starting threads to advertise your hubs is frowned upon. Although - you have touched on one of my proofs that all you believers do not really believe in a god.
      
      Because if you genuinely believed - none of you would be afraid of anything.

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         GeneriqueMediaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         As to say, we collective aren't afraid now?
         
         By getting humanity to realize that death is inevitable, a simple fact of life, we can only hope that it allows us to look ahead and direct our society in a better fashion.
         
         But I'm getting ahead of myself.
         
         Love the comment, Mark.
         
         Sincerely,
         
         G|M

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            Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks. I am not afraid of death myself. At least right now. as you say - it is inevitable.
            
            I am afraid of dentists though...........

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               mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               : same here that damn tooth ache-inevitable and painful

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      mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I agree its mans biggest doubt so his greatest fear.
      
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      The biggest folly man lives with- like he is never going to die.

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         Lady Guinevereposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I am not afraid of death.  What I am afraid of is the pain there is when I release this shell as it is a heavy thing.  I am not afriad of death, but am of not seeing all my friends and relations for a while....more of a missing feeling not fear.

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            sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            yeah, I feel similar.  Not afraid of death but can't bear the thought of knowing when I am gone that who I leave behind will hurt.
            A daughter without her mother, a husband without his wife a parent without their child... 
            And even if you say, don't be sad I will be okay and I will see you soon... it doesn't remove the grief. 

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            apekshaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            You will definitely fill scared when death will come to your way..
            As when you will be driving n suddenly ur life ll come to an end...like such reasons..

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               mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Death is my friend,
               Where there is no trend,
               
               Why fear,
               It is really near.
               
               Death is going back home some fear it some welcome it.

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                  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Most fear it, thus religion.

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                     mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     Religion shows you how to go beyond,that your soul or spirit lives on and that death is the door to God your home.

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                        earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        No, death is the end of conscious life.

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                           mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                           No way ,you are a lot more alive and conscious in death than you can ever be when you are alive.Enlightenment is getting a glimpse of that god conscious state.
                           Thats why the wise say we are in a  dream state and need to wake up.
                           Death is the door from this consciousness to god consciousness.

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                              earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                              It is your consciousness that holds all the knowing of self, when that is gone, so are you. What you call god, I call religiosity and it is an inherent part of our sub-conscious and through our socially learnt symbols becomes a part of mass consciousness. Your god is in your head, your spirituality and soul are life functions, and life is not dependant on your imagined gods.

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                                 mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                 God or the Light is the source of all including you.Revelation or enlightenment is about connecting with this source.

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                                 Lady Guinevereposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                 Religion has nothing to do with that at all.  Religion is of MAN.  Those of us who have been there know much more.  We never end.

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                              Lady Guinevereposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                              Hear, Hear!!

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      Leta Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Bah.  I disagree.  Maybe the fear of death is a thing that pushes us to live, experience, and create while living.  Why is tragedy considered the greater art form, above comedy (although both are reactions to death, in reality)?  Because it speaks to the human condition--the knowledge of death--something we as human beings are aware of, and are the ONLY life forms that are fully aware.
      
      Anything beautiful always has that slight glimpse of fear, I think, so what is that about...? 
      
      Well, this is waxing Shakespearean, but why not?  Different perspective for the 'ol religion forum, . lol

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   RKHenryposted 15 years ago

   Don't you think some people, like myself, aren't afraid of death- that we are just afraid of never seeing our love ones again or what might become of them.  I don't fear death.  I know what I mean to my family.  I know how much I'm loved, liked and wanted.  I know my worth.  I am afraid for them.  I don't want them to suffer, cry, miss me, hurt because of my absence.  I love them.  The last thing I'd ever want is for them to cry over me.

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      sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I think most people feel exactly the same as you do.

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      GeneriqueMediaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      [You're welcome Mark, and thanks for sharing that with me. I've gotten to know you better already. ]
      
      And RK and Sandra...you're absolutely right, and these are good ways to approach life.
      
      But never forget that without a baseline for pain we couldn't have a baseline for happiness. Suffering and torment are facts of life, the only thing we can do is learn from it and come closer to each other.
      
      Love all,
      
      G|M

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   Onusonusposted 15 years ago

   Fear is unworthy of a child of God whos perfect love casts out. It destroys the confidence that a child should feel in a loving Father and produces instead feelings of shame and guilt.

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      RKHenryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Alrighty then.

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         Leta Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I fear perfection when it is spoken of like this more than death!
         
         OH, Should he not, "retain that dear perfection which he owest without title?"
         
         

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            Onusonusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            DEATH be not proud, though some have called thee   
            Mighty and dreadfull, for, thou art not so,   
            For, those, whom thou think'st, thou dost overthrow,   
            Die not, poore death, nor yet canst thou kill me.   
            From rest and sleepe, which but thy pictures bee,           
            Much pleasure, then from thee, much more must flow,   
            And soonest our best men with thee doe goe,   
            Rest of their bones, and soules deliverie.   
            Thou art slave to Fate, Chance, kings, and desperate men,   
            And dost with poyson, warre, and sicknesse dwell,
            And poppie, or charmes can make us sleepe as well,   
            And better then thy stroake; why swell'st thou then;   
            One short sleepe past, wee wake eternally,   
            And death shall be no more; death, thou shalt die.

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               mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               love the last couplet.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Then tell me why religion teaches FEAR of........
      whatever you want to put in there.

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         Onusonusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I do not know why some religions teach  fear accept perhaps because they do not have a true understanding of the scriptures, and the condemnation of God.

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            earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I see nothing but threats of death and fear right through the bible. The major teachings of religion have a god as psychotic as Zeus.

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               mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Quote from them and I will try and explain

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                  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you for the kind offer, I will decline. Despite the many interpretations of the writings themselves, there are hundreds  of such threats throughout all the holy books that are mainstream alone, and then thousands more in all the variations of religious belief of the other hundreds of creeds that make similar claims of death and destruction by judgments from above or from their god.
                  I guess we have arrived at differing opinions from our lives and experiences, thoughts and influences. I do not believe in your god.None of your concepts are real to me. I see them as based on a wrong premise. I avoid theosophical arguments, as the last one I had lasted for two years! I would have to cut and paste as it has been many years since I studied, and would be no match for you at this time.You seem to have made my point for me when you mention the condemnation of god.

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                     mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     Well then you can read some threads where I clarified the meaning of the so called threat.

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                        earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        I must say I have seen most arguments already, and have not arrived at the same conclusion.

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                           mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                           Go back and read other threads .

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                              earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                              I am not speaking of threads, I have read them all as I usually do. I am talking about my own life experiences and what I have learnt.

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                                 mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                 Yes but coming on  a religious forum and shouting that there is no god doesn't change the truth that god exists.

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                                    earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                    Perhaps you only want to speak with those who agree with you, I feel comfortable here thank you, and you may have noticed not everyone shares your views here.

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                                       mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                       You cannot answer anyone's spiritual questions, I can

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                                          earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                          Apparently not.

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                                             mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                             Who was it recently whikat who asked a question which you said was non sense.I thought it was an intelligent question and answered him- apparently yes.

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                                                earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                                There is not a person alive who does not have an opinion on religion, yours is yet another.

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                                                   mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                                   You couldn't even understand what he was asking.

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                                                      earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                                      What are you talking about now?

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                                                         mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                                         Forget it.

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                                                            earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                                            Gladly.

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                                                               ladyvenusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                                               Try to read my hub about God. Its a natural tendency for us humans to fear because in the first place we don't want to suffer and all we wanted is a comfortable life. we fear everything that will destroy our body but God told us nothing to fear if we only trust in him even death.

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                                                                  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                                                  You mean "Yes God Exist. Atheist No More." this hub?

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                                                                  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                                                  I am not afraid of death nor your god.

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   Paragliderposted 15 years ago

   Nice bit of John Donne. The man was into paradox!
   Have one of mine -
   
   Lord Yama
   The one who comes again is not the one
   to fear. That he returns serves but to show
   he will not stay for long. His work is done
   by stages, little cuts and tears. You know
   him more by the delusion in his passing,
   the false relief, as of a toothache dulled
   by aspirin, than by the slow amassing
   of marks and scars. His legacy, anulled
   not even partially by misplaced hope,
   kindles a beacon to the one who bides
   his time in shadow, watching, as you grope
   towards his long embrace. Silent, he slides
   a silver cord around you and the glint
   of death is beautiful, and cold as flint.

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      Onusonusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Nice! Yours?

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         Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Yes. Thanks

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            earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Paraglider I enjoyed your poem very much.

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               Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks!

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                  Lady Guinevereposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  I liked it too.

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   Leta Sposted 15 years ago

   We've sprung up poetry all over Hubpages for April, poetry month!
   
   Even beautiful deaths, like flowers!

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      GeneriqueMediaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      That was beautiful Paraglider! And I appreciate showing me John Donne, Onusonus.
      
      Here's one of mine...a bit darker, but it was published somewhere..if memory serves me..not sure where. And it ties in with the flowers...
      
      Withered
      My own personal hell
      In my own impersonal thoughts
      
      I'd like to kill,
      I'd like to end,
      I'd like to never have been.
      
      My own personal hell,
      In my own confining cell.
      I don't see a reason
      To continue this existence,
      I can't seek acceptance within.
      
      Dirty and rotten,
      Bored through and forgotten.
      Sheered away by sands of time,
      Just cover my body in lime.
      Darkly knowing,
      Sweetly bittered.
      I have deadened - I have withered.
      

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   Onusonusposted 15 years ago

   You are all very creepy!!!!!!!

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      GeneriqueMediaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks.
      
      Art is meant to stretch our boundaries. People write, make movies, make video games...so that we can explore all of life, and not harm ourselves doing it.
      
      Sincerely,
      
      G|M

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   David Bowmanposted 15 years ago

   I was dead for millions of years before I was born and it never inconvenience me a bit. - Mark Twain

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   ladyvenusposted 15 years ago

   I only made that hub comes from my heart.

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      mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I liked it. :)The atheist is looking for enlightenment-the final proof which is just fine.

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         ladyvenusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks. But look at the first comment I got from publishing that hub. As time goes by I've proved him wrong. Wink*

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            mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I read it.Truth will allways win.   ;  followed by ) for the wink

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               earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Truth seldom wins in a world full of religion truth is the first loss.

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                  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Who is teaching you all this nonsense?

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                     Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     You are

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                        mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        

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                           earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                           As usual you missed it. Mark was pointing out that it is your nonsense, but I guess you take that as a compliment too?

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                              mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                              We have opposite views but will not kill each other for them , we have peace between us -"live and let live"-Mahavira.

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                                 earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                 I agree.I am always peaceful too.

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                                    mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                    Try peace with me I will like it.

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                                       earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                       I am peaceful with you. I don't need to agree to be peaceful.

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                                          mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                          Cool that makes me feel good.

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                     ladyvenusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     you asking me? just please read my hub and see who has negative comment on it maybe the first guy but anyway he appreciated me for such courage to published it I'm not afraid of atheist people. lol

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                        earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        And I am not afraid of god-botherers, so what?

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