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It seems that Christians cut and paste their arguments on God with Bible scripture much too often when debating their ideology with atheists and other religions. How is this ever effective if entering the debate, the atheist/different religion has already dismissed the Bible?
Its not effective at all. And its pretty dumb, if you ask me. But what the heck are you gonna do.
It might help if atheists had a bible, though. Lol.
I actually don't think anyone dismisses the bible, just dismiss it in a literal sense. A lot, I mean a lot of people, believers and non believers alike can take something from it. It's a great book that everyone should read.
The first time I read it, I thought it was a crap story and I personally think that it gets out of control when a persons, personal moral vindications and self doubt have to be someone elses also.
really a good point, you know.
it's like discussing one plus one equals two with somebody who doesn't believe there is such a thing as addition, much more arithmentic.
I know better than to get into a debate with you, raider. So I'll just give the short answer: It's not.
Many atheists and other non believers know the bible and quoran intimately.
Nobody likes to have scriptures quoted at them, even people who really love the bible, it just does not help them at all..... I wonder does anyone run for their bible when they see the scriptures and look them up, not me that is for sure..... though I do read a little of it each day....
So you are saying you do read scriptures that are quoted on here, they are not falling altogether on deaf ears then..... my apologies
I just wrote this very subject
http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Bible-has-m … ning-today
The problem starts when so many people consider "the" bible to be one book written by one author. The book of Job is a wonderful story containing meaning for anyone who studies it including my English Lit teacher, (an atheist) who helped me to study it. Leviticus on the other hand is a book written by one or more psychopaths whose aim seems to be the erradication of all rational thought on earth.
Leviticus is the equivalent of our body of legislation and legal precedent.
You get a great snapshot of life at the time, when you consider that each of the verses is a decision made by a judge of sorts about a legalistic dispute.
So, for example, the verse which runs (forgive the paraphrasing) "if two men are fighting, and the wife of one grabs the genitals of the other to save her husband's life, she shall still have her hand cut off (the penalty for touching another man's genitals)". Obviously, this actually happened at some point. Take a moment to get the visual ...
Leviticus is alternately fascinating and hysterically funny if you read it with that in mind.
I like discussing religion with people in an academic debate, but whenever I discuss it, it is with the recognition that no one's mind is going to change. That being said, I find quoting the bible as a "reason" for religion or faith is an incredibly circular argument, like saying "I believe because I believe". I'm okay with belief, I have my own, and I'm okay with not having a reason besides faith for that belief. I can't explain my belief, but I get frustrated when a belief in the bible is explained using the bible. After all you have to believe in the bible before the scriptures provide faith.
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