Atheists vs religionists
Yet another thread to bash non believers Jeremi? A bit transparent don't you think?
I was a student of the bible and after reading the WHOLE THING THOROUGHLY I can use bits that show it to be the dumbassed rubbish that it is.
Funny that! What if it made sense and was more than a myth?
No unbeliever could have anything to say about it.
Your assumptions are wrong.
We can pick out verses from the book that show it is a bunch of psychotic controlling rubbish because it is there for all to see in the bible and quoran.
Religious believers never address these gaping holes in the whole religious thing.
If I read a workshop manual it does not give me this choice. I don't have 6 views on how to fit the gearbox, it goes in one way.
The bible gets ripped by non believers because it can be destroyed with it's own text. It contradicts itself all the way through and I may even write a hub that lists all the lies, and contradictions in it that a kid could find if they weren't looking through their indoctrination.
It is simply a pile of excrement mate!I like your version of that. Inside is where all the "gods" and other good stuff lives.
You say it quite clearly in your profile, all this religious non-sense is not helping you much to see reality in a more rational light.
Humans created religions because they didn't have any science education to know what it takes to conduct objective analysis and use critical observation. Now we know for sure that all religions are based on irrations BS ... so why are you still looking for any middle ground? Do you want to be only 1/2 irrational?"Jesus even said that it had 2000 years ago when there was only one religion."
Hardly even handed!
How come you never see your own bias?OK I was working earlier and a news item caught my eye. It related to the religious population in the US, focusing not so much on religion as those that are beginning to fall away. In particular it focused on a few folks that have spent their lives believing, some being community leaders in their chosen (christian) faith.
All remained preachers, leading their flocks (their words) and teaching from the good book. Yet - they didn't believe a word of their teachings. One said 'the more I read and studied the bible over the years, the more the flaws came through. Noah's Ark really stood out, among others' and so on.
What's with that? The devils works? Common sense? They woke up and smelled the coffee?
If any one bothers to reply, I may not be around because I'm typing in my sleep. Stupid o' clock here. Dedicated hubber and all that
Common sense breaks through for some of them.
I have seen the same and have church friends who haven't believed their own guff for twenty years or more.
In my city the most affective and productive priest I know is one of them.
This old guy is a walking encyclopedia of where the bible is a mess.
He just gets on with the job at hand which is helping the poor and looking after street kids. (yes we have some too.)
I love him! He can swear better than the kids, in fact he strings long and hilarious tracts of swearing together in the funniest way I have heard since Banjo Paterson's poem "The bastard from the bush."
The street kids all respect him for that!
Personally I am of the opinion that none of them really believe their "god" thing. My old priest mate reckons that too!
I don't buy that religionists believe their own guff, they just pour it out hoping someone else will support their neurosis, knowing subconsciously that it is a pile of rubbish.
Thanks for asking!That's the thing with the bible, it says whatever you want it to say.
Yes I have seen the passage you speak of. Like I said the bible says whatever you want it to say. I will find the passages that contradict it if you like.
Then we could argue about "context"
I need a please explain on that one China man.
Now I gotcha! You are correct of course.
The fact that it is fictitious makes it's contents useless when trying to prove anything, I guess I meant something similar with the statement.
"It says whatever you want it to say"
Hello Groggy froggy one! I am well awake here (lunch time) and understand you being a bit groggy. I pulled an all-nighter last night myself.
Hey earnest
You guys should get with the program. It's the crack of the crow. Go to bed.
And can you answer what I asked? You get this stuff
By the way Jeremi, how do you "prove" anything when all you have is one book that tells you it is right? There is not a speck of usable proof about the biblical god.
Circular logic is all that is available alongside literally tonnes of scientific information that debunks it.
Self recommendation is the only way anything in the bible is true, no support from outside itself.
A bit like recommending yourself really, not a very independent way of providing proof is it?Jeremy, there is only one book. Nothing outside the bible supports it. You managed to side step every point!
Cant you see how this reads? (by the way I am a loggers son)
This is your usual response to a direct statement.
"Well when the chicken flies too slow it loses altitude so wind whistles" would have made as much sense!
Why can't you just answer directly?I side stepped the OP? I side stepped Atheists vs religionists?
I think you are from another planet!
Your rambling nonsensical reply addressed nothing at all here and you think I side stepped?
I dunno what your doin there but you should stop it. You make no sense at all!
"You don't see them on the news where they killed people or robed banks, beat up old ladies and children etc."
No you don't do you? It's all done by those dirty unbelievers!
I give up on this it's madness.Better read your post again, the only reference to a hubber I saw was to "earnesthubsaid"
No worries Jeremy, we all make mistakes, and it appears yours was an honest one.
At least you have confirmed what you said in your reply,
"This is what I am talking about is that people do not read what is written without inflicting their bias upon it."
Here is a generic answer... "God is real because the Bible says so." "Prophecy is true because it is in the Bible." "How can the Bible be wrong when the Bible says it is right?"
You imply you are against what YOU call "churiosity" but you do the very same things therefore you end up getting the very same answers.
Would you like me to play favorites because you say you don't believe in Religion though you use it like it is the only thing that exist?
You say things like, "The Bible shouldn't be interpreted wrong" as though you know the right way to interpret it. Your fanatical stance doesn't leave room for anyone except people who take the same stance, "The Bible shouldn't be interpreted wrong."
Then you agree... just not with their interpretations. So when IDK... Earnest or me someone else comes along and makes no interpretation, lays out an exact extraction from the Bible and then reads it out loud you say, "you cannot interpret the Bible wrong as if there was any interpreting going on.
You are so caught up in "wanting" to believe that that god is so great and wonderful that your personal affliction with the really, really, really bad things is so bad that you make up excuses for it and try to make it sound good.
It's NOT good and YOU do interpret it so that it suits you. So when someone doesn't you insist that they must have been trying to interpret it.
The book is pretty clear about it's intentions, you are pretty clear about your intentions. Middle ground? There isn't a middle ground when it comes to the Bible.
Should I quote from Revelation, "I wish you would pick either hot or cold but because you are luck warm, I will vomit you out of my mouth."
Does it seem like middle ground to you? NOPE, you either are for it or against and I am against it and I am not sorry about it either.
If you don't like it, too damn bad.
Sandra you summary is irrefutable to any person who can see what is written and read English, and summarizes the situation perfectly and with truth.
I have been called on "interpreting" a dozen times or more, when all I have ever done is quote directly from the source of this crud. The bible.
How in hell could anyone "interpret statements from the bible like this.
"If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through." (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
What else could be read into this other than what it states.
Clear enough I would have felt.
Then we have the "born again" and only new testament crew.
They still claim the same god, as jesus being his son takes care of that one!Well, I guess it would be nice to know if my dog really likes Beggin' Strips.
I had a Shiatsu that thought he was god. Less so after neutering.
Poor god.
Did you at least give him a chance to mate before chastising him?No, on a serious note he lost the boys to a medical problem, not because he was chastised.
Thought I better clear that up!
No, but he was killed by one!
Male Shiatsu's don't have owners. They prefer to see you as yet another minion in their kingdom.
- Thank you
Yes, Melbourne on the South East Coast.
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