Has there ever been a president who was an atheist?

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  1. BLACKANDGOLDJACK profile image83
    BLACKANDGOLDJACKposted 6 years ago

    We have had a Catholic president, a black president, and a fat president (Taft got stuck in the bathtub at the White House). Women have at least made it on the ticket as VP.

    But what about an atheist?

    1. DoubleScorpion profile image76
      DoubleScorpionposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Nope...And with the thinking in this country...We probably never will, no matter how good of a platform one might would have.

      1. BLACKANDGOLDJACK profile image83
        BLACKANDGOLDJACKposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        What do you mean by "the thinking in this country" I might ask.

        Russia has had atheists in charge.

        Why not the United States?

        1. DoubleScorpion profile image76
          DoubleScorpionposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Everyone thinks this country is based on christianity and isn't secular. I would doubt very seriously if a proclaimed Atheist would ever be voted into office.

          1. aguasilver profile image73
            aguasilverposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Not true, only 84% of Americans think that America is a Christian nation, according to latest figures... smile

            I agree, why should the majority have an right to affect who runs the country?

            1. DoubleScorpion profile image76
              DoubleScorpionposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              The majority does say who gets elected...Part of how this wonderful country works...But a personal belief or lack there of doesn't make one a better leader than another...

              Leading a country is similar to leading a business...It is either successful and profits or it fails and bankrupts...There are rules in place to ensure that a business is successful and runs smoothly for ALL employees involved...and the same should be done with a country... No religious beliefs required...

              1. aguasilver profile image73
                aguasilverposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                There is also the right of the employer NOT to employ anyone they feel will act contrary to the best interests of their business.... just saying. smile

                1. DoubleScorpion profile image76
                  DoubleScorpionposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Very True...

                  Does a persons religious beliefs have an affect on a company success in the business world? What about their actions and/or knowledge?

                  I think the actions and knowledge play a huge role in the success of a company and what a person does religiously on their own time means little to my companies success. But if that belief is brought to the work place and impedes work being completed (for any reason)...Then it becomes a problem for my company.

                  1. aguasilver profile image73
                    aguasilverposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    Well I guess that would depend on the persons belief.

                    If someone wanted to insist that ALL employees must salute the flag and join in communal prayer, they would be very wrong, but equally if a number of employees wanted to do just that, but a small number, maybe just one, wanted to ban that from the workplace, then they would also be wrong.

                    I know of Christian run company's who do pray before starting work, they employ non believers (how else could those folk be shown how Christ works?) and if those non believers wanted to not pray, no problem, as long as they don't try to insist that nobody prays.

  2. profile image0
    Emile Rposted 6 years ago

    Wait a minute. Claire said all world leaders are Satan worshipers. I don't think atheists believe in Satan, so they probably don't have a shot at the oval office.

    1. DoubleScorpion profile image76
      DoubleScorpionposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Ahh yes... And there is this point as well...big_smile

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        Emile Rposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        tongue

    2. A Thousand Words profile image78
      A Thousand Wordsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Wow! So, God appoints Satan Worshippers into positions of leadership?!? Counterproductive, much?

      Romans 13: vs1 "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.
      vs2 Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.

      Damn, well we better obey these Satan Worshippers!

      1. aguasilver profile image73
        aguasilverposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Mostly folk do.

        Mostly folk deny that the enemy exists, makes for easy pickings! smile

        We get the government we deserve, when we turn from God (which mostly we have) we get duff governments, but we still need to obey them UNTIL they countermand the words of God, then we have the ability to do no more than 'humour' them.

        I'm thinking of putting a hub out about being an 'outlaw' which will cover this aspect.

        1. BLACKANDGOLDJACK profile image83
          BLACKANDGOLDJACKposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Well put.

          Sounds like a good hub to me, about being an "outlaw" I  mean.

          Why isn't  disbelief a significant unifying factor for atheists? They could start a revolution.

          Like atheist Denis Diderot said, "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."

  3. BLACKANDGOLDJACK profile image83
    BLACKANDGOLDJACKposted 6 years ago

    Well, who would atheists want to be president? The atheists on this forum, for example, who belittle Christians. I mean, would they really want someone who professes to be Christian as president?

    There are prominent atheists who have served in public office who have expressed an interest in running for president. Take Jesse "The Body" Ventura, the former governor. He convinced his backers wrestling is real. I could see the atheists on this forum supporting him for the presidency.

    1. Cosmic Mayfly profile image59
      Cosmic Mayflyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      It's a little difficult to categorize atheists as a voting bloc, as we're a rather diverse bunch.  The only thing that really unites us is a disbelief, and the rest of our philosophies don't necessarily bunch up anywhere.  A bit like herding cats, really.  Different things about different candidates are likely to appeal to different atheists.  Some things may, on a limited number of topics, find us in a consensus, but otherwise, atheists tend to be all over the continuum.

      1. aguasilver profile image73
        aguasilverposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Glad to hear that!

        Sounds a mite like Churchianity, 38,000 branches agreed in their basic belief but all over the place when it comes to unity of action or thoughts.

        Guess the politicos are safe for a while longer, but imagine if there could be common consensus based purely upon who was THE best candidate to 'serve' the people.... believers and non believers putting aside their differences to ensure that government was actually controlled by the people, in the best interests of ALL.

        Nah... just a dream!

        http://adamsmith.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/773470nov18.jpg

  4. ptosis profile image79
    ptosisposted 6 years ago

    Since most US presidents are sociopaths then it would be quite easy to pretend to hold Christian beliefs. For example Mitt Romney who is a Mormon, who says he is Christian.

    Prophecy #5 says that the US is to be overthrown by Mormoms.  The early LDS kept moving west outside the US - partly because they were ran out, partly because they felt the US was evil.


    http://www.quora.com/Which-US-President … tendencies

    BTW during the birth of the US nation, "the founders had a deep respect for the spiritual urge in man. They believed that religious experience was an intensely personal one, and they were historically mindful of the ease with which religious tended to be arrayed against each other, often at the expense of religion itself." - Norman Cousins, editor, In God We Trust, p. 9.

    1. BLACKANDGOLDJACK profile image83
      BLACKANDGOLDJACKposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I thought prophecy #5 was that Joseph Smith said the Mormons would find treasure in Salem, and #3 was that the US would be overthrown by Mormons in a few years. That was over 150 years ago. No matter, different people probably number them differently, although it doesn't appear that they came to pass.

      Good thing the prophecies about Jesus contained in the Bible have been spot on.

  5. prettydarkhorse profile image64
    prettydarkhorseposted 6 years ago

    The perception that religiosity count in order for one to become President - this is not backed up by research/data. People are more intelligent than that
    (I hope am right). Actions and lip service are not congruent most of the times.

  6. Paul Wingert profile image75
    Paul Wingertposted 6 years ago

    To answer the question about an athiest president, my answer would be Thomas Jefferson and there's evidence suggesting that Lincoln was to.

    1. aguasilver profile image73
      aguasilverposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Think you are correct, though they wore sheep's clothing! smile

  7. ptosis profile image79
    ptosisposted 6 years ago

    "When religious people quarrel about religion, or hungry people about their victuals, it looks as if they had not much of either about them" (Works, Vol. vii., p. 438). - Benjamin Franklin





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    1. BLACKANDGOLDJACK profile image83
      BLACKANDGOLDJACKposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, but atheists are a non-prophet organization.

      1. aguasilver profile image73
        aguasilverposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Nice one! smile

 
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