Only now is it legal to be gay in India

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   darksideposted 15 years ago

   On the second of this month, two judges of the High Court of Delhi declared that s.377 was unconstitutional.
   
   Read more about it here.

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      Lady_Eposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I'm very surprised.  They had such high moral values. The world is really changing.

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         anjalichughposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I don't think this has anything to do with moral values. I once saw a film, based on a true story, about a gay person who finally ended up committing suicide only because his family did not accept him the way he was. The sad part is that no one understands that for them it's like ...'being born in a wrong package' which means it's a man en-caged in a woman's body or vice versa.

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      usmanali81posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Now the ulimate downfall of India will start.

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      Daniel Carterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      This thread is so gay.

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   darksideposted 15 years ago

   I guess that's why we haven't seen mohamedhmm around here.
   
   He's been getting his freak on.

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      fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      That's wicked. Lol. But he really was hot about gay issues, wasn't he.

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         darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         They say 'where there's smoke, there's fire'.
         
         I think in these case where it was hot there was also sweatiness.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

   Well, welcome to the modern world

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   Philentposted 15 years ago

   That was interesting! I wonder how gay people coped with that before it became legal...

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   BristolBoyposted 15 years ago

   Apparently there has been a gay scene for quite a while, it is just kept out of view.  There was even a program in the UK where they got an openly gay Indian prince and sent him to Brighton for a month or two (Brighton is argubly the gay capital of the UK) to try and find love.  He was openly gay and whilst he had complaints because of the conservative nature of the country, he had never been in legal problems (as far as was mentioned).

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      Lady_Eposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Oh yes. I remember that program.  I wonder if he found love - I didn't follow the whole series and that African Prince as well.

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         BristolBoyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Well I think from memory they both took a partner back to their respective countries but in the end the Indian Prince was unable to continue as he felt it would cause problems/issues as there is a lot of homophobia in his local region.

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   earnestshubposted 15 years ago

   This is great news... the world is slowly moving towards acceptance of human rights.

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      noonatyumaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      yawn

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         Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Yes...human rights are so boring...

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         earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         And.. you chase people you don't agree with across the forums and leave drogatite comment? You really are a lightweight!

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            noonatyumaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            lightweight that your new nickname

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               earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Grow up.

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                  noonatyumaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  after you

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                     Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     yawn

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                        noonatyumaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        double yawn

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                           earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                           Let me guess, you got chucked off hubpages for being abusive, or because nobody read your hubs, and now you come back and do the same again.

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                              noonatyumaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                              How far has assuming gotten you? I don't write hubs, I just pop in once a month to give the loons in the place a reality check maybe I should come more often you're long gone.

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   tjmatel3posted 15 years ago

   Gay is becoming the new normal.  How is the world changing!  Is this good or bad?  How do we explain 2 dads or 2 moms to that poor kid?  God help us!

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      Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Most kids don't care as long as they have two parents who love them...

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         noonatyumaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         wrong

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         Inspirepubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Or more than two ...
         
         Jenny

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      JonTutorposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Being gay isn't abnormal just more uncommon.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

   Ah...you gotta love the maturity...

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      noonatyumaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I do

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   Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

   Well, we know he does not qualify for this:
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/16918

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    Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

    But, back to the topic at hand. It's good to see the spread of human rights.

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       noonatyumaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       snore

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          Leta Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Thought you were gay?

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             noonatyumaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Were I'm in transition

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       janni321posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       And what about human nature?

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          JonTutorposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          There are many shades of human nature.... not just black and white.

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             earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             So true, what about the human condition? Now there is a subject to get stuck in to. That would include all the other discussions like human rights, freedom, love, religion etc.

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                JonTutorposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Human condition raises the bar..... hope one day we reach there.... till then we can only hope and imagine(John Lennon) comes true.

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    HealthCare Basicsposted 15 years ago

    Understand this, homosexuals are not out to suck your appendages if you are straight, though, a six pack of beer has turned many straight guys into a blowjob or two. Why go this avenue against gay folks, have you not something better to do  like spice up your straight relationships...........

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       noonatyumaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I'm against no one, It's a choice I chose wrong. Long story not enough time see ya in a month.

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          wordscribe41posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          A choice, come on.  Who would rightly choose to be gay and judged by a preponderance of society that way?  If you're in transition, why are you so bored by human rights issues?  As for coming back next month, please be respectful of this community.

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             JonTutorposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             A supposedly gay guy... using the word "Choice".... something ain't right here.

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             noonatyumaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             You need to get out more, stop sipping the kool-aid, see through the BS, Everything is a choice.

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                wordscribe41posted 15 years agoin reply to this

                I do see through your BS.  But, you're right, I really do need to cut back on the cherry Kool-Aid.

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       janni321posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       agreed

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          HealthCare Basicsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Thank you..............

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    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    noonatyuma is leaving for another month, and will return to instruct us all in about a monthly cycle evidently.

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    HealthCare Basicsposted 15 years ago

    Every person has inside who they want to love, what makes them feel good about themselves and how they will go to obtain that relationship. I know many people who have never had relationships with the opposite sex and do not regret, because for them, it was what they wanted. Having a loving relationship is between two people that satisfy each others needs, nothing outside that need will satisfy on the sexual level.
    
    I know I am being very open here in this forum, but I have grown very tired of gay being an issue in a world where we all fight for equality and rights. A comedian once said, and I believe so true on the light side, if you do not agree with gay marriage or gay life, then do not marry a gay....... 
    
    Let it go..... We only bite if you want it!!!!

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       wordscribe41posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I'm with you, HCB. I'm tired of all the gay intolerance as well.  Controversial, I know, but I really do believe sexuality runs along a continuum, it just depends where you fall.  Two of my best friends are gay, one had never been in a lesbian relationship before.  But, she fell in love with the person, her partner, who just happens to be another woman.  I'm horrified we're still so in the dark ages with this issue.  I was celebrating like a maniac when it was temporarily legal for gay marriage here in Portland.  So sad it was so brief.  Anyhoo, that's my 2 cents.

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    1weddingsourceposted 15 years ago

    Wow. Freedom is spreading... The decision will definitely make the lives of all gays easier and meaningful.

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       janni321posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       A lot much freedom yet to be left to spread in India beside homosexuality.
       Homosexuality is actually legal in Hinduism as per some of the old scripts and sculptures.

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    Anamika Sposted 15 years ago

    I have mixed feelings on the issue. I think freedom of expression or behavior whether you are a gay or straight is a fundamental right. At the same time I also think this law is ruining the society and family values. I did make a post on that topic at my today.com Blog also. http://anamika.today.com/2009/07/03/hom … -in-india/

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    Reena Daruwallaposted 15 years ago

    Oh for an ignore button!

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    soni2006posted 15 years ago

    Gay system, although hidden, had been prevalent in India since many centuries before but this is the first time that government of India has taken some steps to legalize it.
    
    Have you heard about Kamasutra and Kama Shastra and all that stuff. Just go ahead and check out these on the net and you will find out how old these systems were.
    
    I also published some hubs on these a few days back.

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    Colebabieposted 15 years ago

    Not everything is a choice. I didn't choose to be brunette, or have green eyes, or be straight.
    
    Not gonna get into this... I'm not gonna get into this
    
    Cole... out!

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       darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I know where you're coming from, but baaaad analogy.
       
       You can choose to change your hair colour. You can choose to wear non-prescription contacts. You could even choose to kiss a girl, and even like it.
       
       I'm not anti-gay... and no buts about that.
       
       What I won't do though is say that either 1) People were born that way, or 2) It's a choice.
       
       I'm sure plenty have felt that they were born gay. And I'm sure plenty have decided to be gay. Can one be born bisexual? Maybe. But I'm positive that there are bisexuals who chose to be simply because it doubles their chances of 'getting laid'.

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          Inspirepubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Seems unlikely that someone who is really straight (or gay) could make themselves be bisexual.
          
          I mean, if you are genuinely attracted to both genders, I can see how you could ignore or suppress your attraction for one of the genders, but how do you fabricate an attraction that isn't really there?
          
          Jenny

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             darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             One word: beer.
             
             But seriously, a person could have sex with a member of the same sex and not actually be gay.
             
             The physical act of sex doesn't need attraction or even mean they are one way or the other. If a gay man had sex with a female, he's still gay.
             
             A gay man who hasn't had sex at all is still gay.

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                Inspirepubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                I can understand that for a woman, given the presence of artificial lube, but an erection is not something one can fake ... is it ... ?
                
                I think if beer (which reduces inhibitions) unleashes homosexual behaviour, then logically, in was the inhibitions which kept it from manifesting at other times.
                
                And yes, I think it is much more likely that there is a gender-orientation spectrum, with only a tiny minority of people being 100% gay and a larger but still small minority being 100% straight.
                
                My guess would be that at least 80% of the population, in their natural state, would experience attraction to both genders, often skewed more to one gender than the other.
                
                If this were not the case, we would not need such violent social controls in the culture to suppress same-sex attraction, would we?
                
                Jenny

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                   darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                   Sexual attraction isn't the only thing that can cause an erection.
                   
                   Fear can too. Excitement. Jumping off a high point into water. Without nary a sexual thought a guy can wake up with the 'morning glory'. It can respond to physical and/or mental stimulation. Or sometimes not.
                   
                   It really does have a mind of its own.
                   
                   According to Law & Order SVU male rape victims can have an erection.
                   
                   Getting a Hubber Score of 100 apparently works better than Viagra.

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                      Inspirepubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                      LOL - and is that legal in India?
                      
                      Jenny

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          JonTutorposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Dude you need to get your facts straight....Those fundamentalists keep bashing gays for there supposed "choices" ... Most of the gays don't really have a choice... They are born with that inclination or attraction.... And being Bisexual has been more acceptable for woman..... In my high school we guys used to watch porno during summer... most of the guys never had any problems woman/woman or one man/two woman scenes but whenever anything man/man most of the guys would find it disgusting..... You gotta read more.. there are studies which conclude that there is some amount of Bi tendencies even among some men..... but at conscious level men are more likely to suppress it.

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             darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             You do know there are people who commit homosexual acts but deny they are gay.
             
             What I'm saying is, who am I to say it has to be A or B? For some they feel they were born that way, others do it because they want to.

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             darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Getting back to this, you're saying that being bisexual is their default setting, and therefore being straight is a choice?
             
             Dude you need to keep your facts straight.

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                JonTutorposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                @Darkside My bad... my apologies.... most of these fundamentalists bash gays.... when being gay mostly isn't a choice.... I get it.... you're  "choice" interpretation is far too advanced for thick head fundamentalists.... Peace out dude.

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          EYEAM4ANARCHYposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Which brings us to the question of: who cares if it's a choice? People make choices all the time. Should we eliminate people's right to religious freedom because it involves a choice of what religion to follow or whether to follow one at all?

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    PurePakistaniposted 15 years ago

    India's destruction started.

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       earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Another bloody ignorant homophobic! Where do you guys come from?

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          Shil1978posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          I guess he's given a hint in the ID he's chosen to register with

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             earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Yep! We got us another zealot!

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                Shil1978posted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Oh yes - as if we didn't already have enough of them in here. Perhaps, this fella has got a special invite from usmanali. Maybe he wanted some support

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                   usmanali81posted 15 years agoin reply to this

                   Nop

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                      mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                      Still don't have the courage to put up your photo??
                      A man of god has a lot of courage.

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                         usmanali81posted 15 years agoin reply to this

                         It's just for security purpose as the Freemasons are after me.

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                            earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                            Yes of course they are!

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                               Leta Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                               Are they green and part scaly, part furry?  Because those have been after me, too!  They hide in the walls.

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                                  Inspirepubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                  Funny that, the one I have staying with me at the moment is drop-dead gorgeous, young, playful, and very cuddly. Not green or scaly at all.
                                  
                                  Jenny
                                  
                                  P.S. Maybe it's because the Catholics had him until he was 18 ...

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                                     JonTutorposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                     Ain't it funny....A believer of Allah but sees freemasons everywhere

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          PurePakistaniposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Qur'an say world end start when this happen. Only Islam believe live.  India now pay for rape murder india muslim kashmir brother sister.

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    EYEAM4ANARCHYposted 15 years ago

    If it's wrong to love you, then I don't want to be right.

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    HealthCare Basicsposted 15 years ago

    Get out the rainbow flag!!!!!!

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