Why can't satan be killed?

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James Agbogunposted 12 years ago
satan should be killed once and for all. What is it about his arrest? The implication is that he may escape one day.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  If we killed him the religion forum would whither and die.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  that is going to have a negative impact.
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  earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You think so?
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yes. It is the most popular forum since all of us want to identify with the creator, and not his prescriptions.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  There are also a few enlightened individuals who prefer to point out the fact that your invisible creator is a figment of your imagination.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  are you well armed to prove it?
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  Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Absolutely.
  
  100% lack of evidence in favor does it for me every time.
  
  Now you prove there is one.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Precision in nature. Everything nature has to offer points to the direction of a well planned design. To date, man is still tryimg to understand them.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  This is merely your opinion. What are your qualifications to determine this?
  
  Although - if you think everything is well planned design, you must be unfamiliar with an awful lot of design flaws. Your invisible super being must be the worst designer ever.
  
  Now bring some proof.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  you remember meteorites, they get burnt before getting to us. Do you remember the carbon cycle. Who is trying to protect us? free energy is used for doing work in our bodies instead of heat so that we may not get burnt.
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  Pearldiverposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  OMG Man... Get some Real Help!! Clearly you are a graduate of an obscure Italian laboratory. You poor old Mushroom!
  What did they do to you? Did they keep you in the dark and feed you shit? How Sad!!
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
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  Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I suggest you go look the word "proof" up in a decent dictionary first.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  proof=evidence. No need for a dictionary.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  lol
  
  You better go look up "evidence" as well.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  determinant of the truth of an assertion
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  Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Right. Now all your proofs and evidence so far do not determine the truth of the assertion you are making. "Meteors burn up on entry into earth's atmosphere (some of the time) therefore there is a god."
  
  See? Makes no sense and in no way determines the truth of your assertion.
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  Pearldiverposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Actually... It's Not merely a dictionary that you need. You seem to have some difficulty expressing yourself AND finding the correct words with which to do so!
  May I suggest that you return to your dark space and take a good remedial reading book with you?
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Was that an attempt to dodge the subject since you are empty of opinion?
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  Pearldiverposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Clearly you are spawned from a far superior breeding program. Retrace your thread and consider the point that you were trying to make. It is rather impotent and certainly irelevant on a variety of counts.
  Any 'emptiness' of opinion would appear to be evident on your part. My original opinion stands...
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  Pearldiverposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Have you exceeded the recommended dosage period for Diazapans?
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  you should try exceeding the recommended dosage period of Phenegan
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  Valerie Fposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Spinoza, Sorley, Aquinas, Paley, and my favorite, Anselm all have some pretty good proofs.
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  Hauntyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I'd rather let people hold on to their support. As long as I don't know anything about God, why shatter others' beliefs...
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  Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Quite right. Tell you what - you get them to stop sharing and I won't shatter any illusions.
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  Hauntyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I know you have a reputation for doing that. But I haven't seen it much in action so I'd rather not draw conclusions.
  
  All I'm saying is that it's quite right to put down the preachers (even if it only fuels the fire) who are only in it for the attention or whatever, but know someone who is actually in tears when writing (in an unstable emotional state) and is in need of help and don't shatter those illusions. There are so many honest people out there.
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  beautyroseposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Satan will only be conquered during the last days in the second coming of Christ. Not yet this time.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  is the implication total elimination?
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  pgrundyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  LOL!
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  Lisa HWposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  ....but then people could just make up new beings to talk about in the religion forum. Maybe it would be refreshing.
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  Jewelsposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  God forbid!
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  And..no more cupcakes cant have that no no no
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  Lady_Eposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  He will be gone forever one day but his time hasn't come yet.
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  chukra Gposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  not he have to leave forever, we should leave. understand it
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  XTASISposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Escape from where ? Is he imprisoned? I don't think so. Take a look around!
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It has always been about his capture. Why can't he be killed once and for all?
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  XTASISposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Because it lives within yourself. Take a look !
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  oh! you mean multiple satans that could be captured but can not be made to face a simple process of execution so that peace may reign forever.
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  XTASISposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You don't get it ! Or are you on too many pills? There's no execution for Satan, If it were you should execute yourself
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  andromidaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Why should I kill satan,whom I have never seen.I even don't know if satan is he or she.Let the satan live in peace.lets stay away from all the bad words associated from satan, there will be no more satan.
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  fierycjposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You're a fellow Nigerian right? I can tell from the name. So I guess by arrest you're referring to those Pentecostal churches who 'bind' Satan and cast him to a prison abyss. Ha! Well, my honest answer - hogwash! Cant kill him, cant imprison him. Not now anyways. But killing is out - whether now or ever! That's the whole point of being Lucifer!
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  shhh! don't let them know my origin. They may think am a "boko haram" terrorist.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Satans power can be bound ..yeehaaaa
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  fierycjposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Dude, they think I'm a militant. What makes you any different. Sorry.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  THEY dont all think that ... you just choose yer friends well , and your enemies even better, lol
  
  Hey Cj you heard of a SA director called Blomkamp? (born in SA ,but lives in Canada now I think)
  Guess whose taken him under his wing ,like a protege?
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  fierycjposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Thats the director of the movie District 9. That's why I told you to pass my resume. You sleeping on me, boss lady!
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Thats what I mean , if he helpin Blomkamp ,he may help a Nigerian...
  Lol ,sleepin on the job , nah wasnt paying enough
  
  Besides Pete lives in the Waiarapa's (New Zealand) and I am many miles from home.
  
  What are you doing about your aspirations btw
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  fierycjposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I'll email you about that later, ok.
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  fierycjposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Thats the director of the movie District 9. That's why I told you to pass my resume. You sleeping on me, boss lady!
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  Osa Osazuwa-Tosanposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, Satan is a spirit being and killing is not the issue for him. All disobedient and wicked spirits will be destroyed out of place after the last judgment at the last day.
  
  Men are being given the time to repent from following him so they don't suffer the same fate of eternal destruction with him.
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Lisa HWposted 12 years ago
I don't happen to believe one can kill a being that does not exist. Evil exists and is committed by damaged humans, but I don't believe there's any such thing as "Satan".
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  Hauntyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I hold the same belief.
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  kewlyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The idea of evil is relative and as long as we live in the world of duality it will continue because thier will always be opposites. Judging anything as good or bad, right or wrong, etc is only judging it and will persist in it showing up in ones life circumstance. Love it free and it will cease to be! What you resist persists!
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  Lisa HWposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I don't believe evil has anything to do with "relative" or "duality". It is completely reasonable to say, for example, that to murder a child is evil; and that showing kindness to someone in need is good. Stealing from someone is committing evil. If someone lets his envy get the best of him and is cruel to the object of his envy it's evil. Some people commit evil intentionally. Some commit it because they don't any better. Some commit it because they're damaged and can't control their urges. What is behind any particular evil is a separate issue, but evil acts (which always have a victim/victims ) are evil acts.
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SparklingJewelposted 12 years ago
there was once an individual soul that was called satan, but not anymore. Now there are only those that perpetuate similar deeds, but they won't be around for long either
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Pearldiverposted 12 years ago
Many of us have noticed a satanic presence establishing itself within the forums of Hubages.
It is quite possible that posts like yours could hold a direct relevance to this problem; as I'm sure you understand that Satan works in mysterious ways! (Including the cluttering of otherwise balanced threads).

Clearly (If we are to take you seriously), you are also concerned about this issue (per your question). This being the case; it would be not only prudent, but also in the best interests of your own credibility; if you desist from posting threads like this one; until you have established a level of intelligent reasoning (including the dealing with your own devils) and found yourself becoming a productive individual via a day job!
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  why not answer the question and support it with some evidence. Perhaps you could convince the devil. Is it right to accept a notion because an individual claimed it is right? The response is rather bias. A mind of this nature if found in the arena of etremism, may detonate so as to be glorified.
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  Pearldiverposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Hahahaha Na Nu... Na Nu.....
  
  "A mind of this nature if found in the arena of etremism, may detonate so as to be glorified."
  
  I REST MY CASE........
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frogdroppingposted 12 years ago
I'm with Lisa - and Haunty.

However, on the off-chance that he does exist, why kill him? He seems to be doing a pretty good job and fullfilling the job spec. Can't fault consistancy and hard work.
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  Hauntyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  lolol From a detached point of view... well, yes
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Lisa HWposted 12 years ago

Why would anyone want to kill this little cutie?
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I belt he is larger than that.
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  flread45posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Don't mess up my Barbeque!!!
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Lisa HWposted 12 years ago

I think he's this big and sits on people's shoulders, egging them on to do devilish things.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  i would rather define that image as a germ
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Pearldiverposted 12 years ago
Well dear sir........ Write some hubs on the subject!!

I'm sure in the haze of someone's drug induced cyberspace; you will be a hero!!
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White Teethposted 12 years ago
Satan cannot be killed because he is the Left Hand of God. The one He masturbates with...
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  Mishaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  ROFLMAO
  
  But seriously, Satan will be with us until the last christian dies out. They need him.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
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  Valerie Fposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Seriously? You're assuming that Christianity will die out, and that we need a being who is antithetical to eternal life and happiness.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Just as the police need the criminals for sustenance.
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  Mishaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  LOL exactly And we all die out eventually, christians is no exception
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Even the notion of heaven is contestable. I wonder the nature of the enjoyment. what if my enjoyment is alcohol, do they guarantee plenty of it when i get to heaven?
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Nah , no need to escape or lean on any crutch in heaven
  
  be high on life
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  flread45posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Is this going too be by attrition or delition?
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Attrition i think. It is already happening.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
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  Anti-Valentineposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  
  I like this one, and Mark's one about Satan being a figment of one's imagination. I don't read the religion forum much, but I might start now.
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Valerie Fposted 12 years ago
You can't kill what isn't alive.
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Mishaposted 12 years ago
You have to ask them, I am not a big specialist in their myths
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Mishaposted 12 years ago
Not that I have any idea.
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mobilephone guideposted 12 years ago
he lives within us. oh wait, he IS us.
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  Shaul Steinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  speak for yourself
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  He may be right in that he is trying to present satan as a multiple of souls that exists in individuals,that persist as long as we continue to exist.
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  A part, at least. So kill the devil, kill yourself !
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You may be right. I think it is very logical.
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  earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yep, can't go killing of the dark side, we need it for comparison!
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  yes, there should be light and darkness in opposition. But the coincidence of being Leos is more interesting than the satan.
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  earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You are a Leo?
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Or Satan ? I'm scorpio
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You know that my profile pic do not have that scary eye. Nice to know you are scorpio.
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  So you like leos in the den? Are you roman ?
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No. But what is it about Romans and lions?
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Don't you remeber? weren´t you there?
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, i remember! the colesseum.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, I like it in the Den.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  So yer more interested in the stars James ?, or just bonding in general.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Bonding is definitely the answer.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  like Uhu (glue)
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  andromidaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Certainly he lives within us.In fact many of us successfully developed satan like characteristics.Are those people be called satan.
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  chukra Gposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  not the real us, but us. attachment is 1 of the form of it.
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Eaglekiwiposted 12 years ago
Satan can be killed by the one who made him first
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  andromidaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Then we need to kill most of us.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  We dont need to kill anyone
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  All of us, as good and evil is part of our being, just as good and evil is part of the creation.
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Eaglekiwiposted 12 years ago
Doing bad things dont make you satan

Just as doing good things dont make you God
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Eaglekiwiposted 12 years ago
When Satan was created his name was Lucifer and he was one of the Head Angels.

He sinned and was thrown from the Garden of Eden (Heaven) and renamed (by God) Satan

Its not the name thats so important ,but the end of the story

I think anyway.
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  andromidaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Do you think that god chose him as a satan.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I dont know.
  
  I do know Lucifer chose to challenge God though.
  
  We can chose to follow God or Satan.
  
  In the end we get the same rewards of the Master we chose.
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  andromidaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I like your statement.Its a matter of choice for us.
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  So you think that symbolisms are a fact! O.K.... If your happy believing fairy tales....
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Think youre the one into stereotypes and fairytales ,how rude anyway ,who are you to mock my beliefs??
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not mocking your beliefs. I'm stating a fact, that I think is true in MHO .. You're touchy ,arent you?!! And this is a free forum ... I think??
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Insinuating what I believe is a fairytale, I consider mocking ,therefore rude IMO.
  Whats being a free forum got to do with anything?
  
  Hey Im over it ,just wish people would let others state their opinion ,without the need to critize ,make fun , mock or jeer.
  
  >> see and here <<<
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Why don't you take a walk through the posts in this forum? You'll see a lot of people fighting for their beliefs, arguing about it. I don't see anybody crying. And I'm not mocking you for your belief!! Grow up!
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Woohoo now whose touchy , truth is I dont speak for everyone else ,just me..I was answering a previous question posted anyway ....so Tantrum you can kiss my grits!
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  What a freak !
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  ryankettposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  What was his sin?
  
  Anybody get the feeling that this Lucifer chap is just an angel that made a little mistake?
  
  He was subsequently 'demonised' but is probably sitting in a very hot dungeon feeling a bit sorry for himself. Cant we give him a chance to redeem himself?
  
  (sorry just a joke guys, no offence intended)
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yea nice lil movie script there Ryan lol , wee cute red devil with horns..
  
  His sin wasnt little ,lol , but no longer unique either.
  
  He wanted to be God ,call it a power struggle, but either way they God and Satan continue to battle...of course only if you believe , if you dont ,well none of matters to some
  
  (jokes are cool, I know some good ones too )
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  ryankettposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Lol, im sure that somebody somewhere has made that movie.... and if they havent, then im sure that it is somewhere in the huge piles of scripts written during the Hollywood writers strike!
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Alastore001posted 12 years ago
Personally i dont believe in religion, either side of it.
If i was to answer the question id have to say i see "Satan" as the embodiment of evil within us, and by that i mean mans ability to do wrong. Which really isnt anything to do with "satan" its just a word given to it.
Anyway, you cant really get rid of, or kill that because in order to do so you would either have to kill every living man, woman, and child or somehow convert EVERYONE to complete pacifist.
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Agree 100%!
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\Brenda Scullyposted 12 years ago
he was an angel wasn't he, then wanted everything and seemingly has it at the moment.... when he offered all the kingdoms of the world to Jesus if he would bow down to him, how could he have offered them if they were not his..
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ryankettposted 12 years ago
As soon as I saw this I knew that it was one of those forum topics that nobody should ever, ever, click on! Curiosity got the better of me, and I was proved 100% correct!
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Eaglekiwiposted 12 years ago
Its that freaky avatar of yours I agree fugly
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  And so childlish!! I'm really amazed GROW UP
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Change the music ,theres an echo in here
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Beth100posted 12 years ago
Both good and bad, evil and pure must co-exist for one cannot exist without the other. To destroy one, would create unbalance, which in turn would destroy the other.
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tantrumposted 12 years ago
Well ? so The den, leos....Satan... what are you talking about ?
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  what will surprise you is that, i will respond very well if you ask me a direct question.
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  But you haven't been direct so far... the question is: what leos, dens and Satan is about ?
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  leon=my star, Den=home of thelion, Satan= why is he still living.
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  What is thelion ? Satan is still livingb ecause you are. You, me ,all of us
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  there is a saying that says:"you point one finger at a person when the other fingers points back at you" so what is the meaning is 'livingb ecause'?
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  ....and am just going to check your profile. i might find something interesting.
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Luciendaskyposted 12 years ago
Well, I heard once that Santa and Satan where the same person since the letters in their names could be moved around to spell the other name... and I don't think it would be very nice to kill Santa...
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  That was very nice. Don't worry, no body is going to kill santa. We need him for christmas.
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Eaglekiwiposted 12 years ago
Satan can be 'bound up' but its not a tangible thing, tis a spiritual thing.

Only in 'Jesus name' can Satan be rebuked ,bound up, basically subdued..his demise will come ,when Jesus returns.

If it were not so, the gift of 'free will' choosing who we want to serve would never have been relised.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You know what? This question and others are to provoke reponse. But some persons might have just been provoked. They may not be my own personal opinion. What i post here are very different from the contents of my Hub.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Not sure I understand what youre saying as I dont want to assume anything.
  Do you mean this is your way of drawing attention to you ,your profile ,your hubs?
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No.But One need to post or respond in a way that makes the conversations going. But some persons might get curious due to a negative response or in other case positive ones. And others may see it as a reason for an avertion.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yes ok , I see what you mean.
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rcisophieposted 12 years ago
I can't help myself... this kind of 'questions' just makes me laugh LOL

do you all thing this is something to discuss? Unbelievable :)eh eh eh
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  Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  What do you find funny and why?
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  rcisophieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Don't get ofended - I don't have any intention of that
  But I'm not going that way.
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Am very happy we made you laugh. That makes it more important so that somebody might laugh. Because laugh is very good for the body and soul.
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  rcisophieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I agree with you... is very good to have sense of humour and to laugh or at least smile
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Bom dia ! Como va voce?
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The contents of your hubpage are rather strange and Unique. They give reasons for curiosity. They are attractive. I might never have known if i did not go there. But i still must go back.
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Take care is addictive ! :
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  rcisophieposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Olá, bem e tu?
  
  I wonder if you got it... just in case 'hello, good and you'?
  Thanks for your message.
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  tantrumposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Of course I do ! have lots of friends in Lisbon
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earnestshubposted 12 years ago
rcisophie does have a point. It is a loaded question, as one would have to believe in satan in the first place. a bit like asking "are you still beating your wife?"
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  James Agbogunposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It is that logical. For you have to accept the idea of beating a wife before asking.
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