Why can't satan be killed?

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   James Agbogunposted 10 years ago

   satan should be killed once and for all. What is it about his arrest? The implication is that he may escape one day.

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      If we killed him the religion forum would whither and die.

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         James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         that is going to have a negative impact.

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            earnestshubposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            You think so?

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               James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Yes. It is the most popular forum since all of us want to identify with the creator, and not his prescriptions.

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  There are also a few enlightened individuals who prefer to point out the fact that your invisible creator is a figment of your imagination.

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                     James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     are you well armed to prove it?

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                        Mark Knowlesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        Absolutely.
                        
                        100% lack of evidence in favor does it for me every time.
                        
                        Now you prove there is one.

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                           James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           Precision in nature. Everything nature has to offer points to the direction of a well planned design. To date, man is still tryimg to understand them.

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                              Mark Knowlesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              This is merely your opinion. What are your qualifications to determine this?
                              
                              Although - if you think everything is well planned design, you must be unfamiliar with an awful lot of design flaws. Your invisible super being must be the worst designer ever.
                              
                              Now bring some proof.

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                                 James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 you remember meteorites, they get burnt before getting to us. Do you remember the carbon cycle. Who is trying to protect us? free energy is used for doing work in our bodies instead of heat so that we may not get burnt.

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                                    Pearldiverposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                    OMG Man... Get some Real Help!!  Clearly you are a graduate of an obscure Italian laboratory.  You poor old Mushroom!
                                    What did they do to you? Did they keep you in the dark and feed you shit? How Sad!!

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                                       James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

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                                          Mark Knowlesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                          I suggest you go look the word "proof" up in a decent dictionary first.

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                                             James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                             proof=evidence. No need for a dictionary.

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                                                Mark Knowlesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                                lol
                                                
                                                You better go look up "evidence" as well.

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                                                   James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                                   determinant of the truth of an assertion

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                                                      Mark Knowlesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                                      Right. Now all your proofs and evidence so far do not determine the truth of the assertion you are making. "Meteors burn up on entry into earth's atmosphere (some of the time) therefore there is a god."
                                                      
                                                      See? Makes no sense and in no way determines the truth of your assertion.

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                                                      Pearldiverposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                                      Actually... It's Not merely a dictionary that you need. You seem to have some difficulty expressing yourself AND finding the correct words with which to do so!
                                                      May I suggest that you return to your dark space and take a good remedial reading book with you?

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                                                         James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                                         Was that an attempt to dodge the subject since you are empty of opinion?

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                                                            Pearldiverposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                                            Clearly you are spawned from a far superior breeding program. Retrace your thread and consider the point that you were trying to make. It is rather impotent and certainly irelevant on a variety of counts.
                                                            Any 'emptiness' of opinion would appear to be evident on your part.  My original opinion stands...

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                              Pearldiverposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              Have you exceeded the recommended dosage period for Diazapans?
                              

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                                 James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 you should try exceeding the recommended dosage period of Phenegan

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                           Valerie Fposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           Spinoza, Sorley, Aquinas, Paley, and my favorite, Anselm all have some pretty good proofs.

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                     Hauntyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     I'd rather let people hold on to their support. As long as I don't know anything about God, why shatter others' beliefs...

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                        Mark Knowlesposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        Quite right. Tell you what - you get them to stop sharing and I won't shatter any illusions.

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                           Hauntyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           I know you have a reputation for doing that. But I haven't seen it much in action so I'd rather not draw conclusions.
                           
                           All I'm saying is that it's quite right to put down the preachers (even if it only fuels the fire) who are only in it for the attention or whatever, but know someone who is actually in tears when writing (in an unstable emotional state) and is in need of help and don't shatter those illusions. There are so many honest people out there.

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                        beautyroseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        Satan will only be conquered during the last days in the second coming of Christ. Not yet this time.

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                           James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           is the implication total elimination?

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         pgrundyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         LOL!

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            Lisa HWposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            ....but then people could just make up new beings to talk about in the religion forum.  Maybe it would be refreshing.   

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            Jewelsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            God forbid!

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         Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         And..no more cupcakes cant have that no no no

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      Lady_Eposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      He will be gone forever one day but his time hasn't come yet.

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         chukra Gposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         not he have to leave forever, we should leave. understand it

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      XTASISposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Escape from where ? Is he imprisoned? I don't think so. Take a look around!

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         James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         It has always been about his capture. Why can't he be killed once and for all?

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            XTASISposted 10 years agoin reply to this

              Because it lives within yourself. Take a look !

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               James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               oh! you mean multiple satans that could be captured but can not be made to face a simple process of execution so that peace may reign forever.

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                  XTASISposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  You don't get it ! Or are you on too many pills? There's no execution for Satan, If it were you should execute yourself

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      andromidaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Why should I kill satan,whom I have never seen.I even don't know if satan is he or she.Let the satan live in peace.lets stay away from all the bad words associated from satan, there will be no more satan.

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      fierycjposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      You're a fellow Nigerian right? I can tell from the name. So I guess by arrest you're referring to those Pentecostal churches who 'bind' Satan and cast him to a prison abyss. Ha! Well, my honest answer - hogwash! Cant kill him, cant imprison him. Not now anyways. But killing is out - whether now or ever! That's the whole point of being Lucifer!

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         James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         shhh! don't let them know my origin. They may think am a "boko haram" terrorist.

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            Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Satans power can be bound ..yeehaaaa

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            fierycjposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Dude, they think I'm a militant. What makes you any different. Sorry.

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               Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               THEY dont all think that ... you just choose yer friends well , and your enemies even better, lol
               
               Hey Cj you heard of a SA director called Blomkamp? (born in SA ,but lives in Canada now I think)
               Guess whose taken him under his wing ,like a protege?

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                  fierycjposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Thats the director of the movie District 9. That's why I told you to pass my resume. You sleeping on me, boss lady!

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                     Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Thats what I mean , if he helpin Blomkamp ,he may help a Nigerian...
                     Lol ,sleepin on the job , nah wasnt paying enough
                     
                     Besides Pete lives in the Waiarapa's (New Zealand) and I am many miles from home.
                     
                     What are you doing about your aspirations btw

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                        fierycjposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        I'll email you about that later, ok.

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                  fierycjposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Thats the director of the movie District 9. That's why I told you to pass my resume. You sleeping on me, boss lady!

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      Osa Osazuwa-Tosanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry, Satan is a spirit being and killing is not the issue for him. All disobedient and wicked spirits will be destroyed out of place after the last judgment at the last day.
      
      Men are being given the time to repent from following him so they don't suffer the same fate of eternal destruction with him.

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   Lisa HWposted 10 years ago

   I don't happen to believe one can kill a being that does not exist.  Evil exists and is committed by damaged humans, but I don't believe there's any such thing as "Satan".

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      Hauntyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I hold the same belief.

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      kewlyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      The idea of evil is relative and as long as we live in the world of duality it will continue because thier will always be opposites. Judging anything as good or bad, right or wrong, etc is only judging it and will persist in it showing up in ones life circumstance. Love it free and it will cease to be! What you resist persists!

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         Lisa HWposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         I don't believe evil has anything to do with "relative" or "duality".  It is completely reasonable to say, for example, that to murder a child is evil; and that showing kindness to someone in need is good. Stealing from someone is committing evil.  If someone lets his envy get the best of him and is cruel to the object of his envy it's evil.  Some people commit evil intentionally.  Some commit it because they don't any better.  Some commit it because they're damaged and can't control their urges.   What is behind any particular evil is a separate issue, but evil acts (which always have a victim/victims ) are evil acts.

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   SparklingJewelposted 10 years ago

   there was once an individual soul that was called satan, but not anymore. Now there are only those that perpetuate similar deeds, but they won't be around for long either 

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   Pearldiverposted 10 years ago

   Many of us have noticed a satanic presence establishing itself within the forums of Hubages.
   It is quite possible that posts like yours could hold a direct relevance to this problem; as I'm sure you understand that Satan works in mysterious ways! (Including the cluttering of otherwise balanced threads).
   
   Clearly (If we are to take you seriously), you are also concerned about this issue (per your question). This being the case; it would be not only prudent, but also in the best interests of your own credibility; if you desist from posting threads like this one; until you have established a level of intelligent reasoning (including the dealing with your own devils) and found yourself becoming a productive individual via a day job!

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      James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      why not answer the question and support it with some evidence. Perhaps you could convince the devil. Is it right to accept a notion because an individual claimed it is right? The response is rather bias. A mind of this nature if found in the arena of etremism, may detonate so as to be glorified.

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         Pearldiverposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Hahahaha Na Nu... Na Nu.....
         
         "A mind of this nature if found in the arena of etremism, may detonate so as to be glorified."
         
         I REST MY CASE........

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   frogdroppingposted 10 years ago

   I'm with Lisa - and Haunty.
   
   However, on the off-chance that he does exist, why kill him? He seems to be doing a pretty good job and fullfilling the job spec. Can't fault consistancy and hard work.

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      Hauntyposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      lolol From a detached point of view... well, yes

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   Lisa HWposted 10 years ago

   
   
   Why would anyone want to kill this little cutie?

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      James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I belt he is larger than that.

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      flread45posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Don't mess up my Barbeque!!!

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   Lisa HWposted 10 years ago

   
   
   I think he's this big and sits on people's shoulders, egging them on to do devilish things.   

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      James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      i would rather define that image as a germ

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   Pearldiverposted 10 years ago

   Well dear sir........ Write some hubs on the subject!!
   
   I'm sure in the haze of someone's drug induced cyberspace; you will be a hero!!

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   White Teethposted 10 years ago

   Satan cannot be killed because he is the Left Hand of God. The one He masturbates with...

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      Mishaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      ROFLMAO
      
      But seriously, Satan will be with us until the last christian dies out. They need him.

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         James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

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         Valerie Fposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Seriously? You're assuming that Christianity will die out, and that we need a being who is antithetical to eternal life and happiness.

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            James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Just as the police need the criminals for sustenance.

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               Mishaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               LOL exactly And we all die out eventually, christians is no exception

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                  James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Even the notion of heaven is contestable. I wonder the nature of the enjoyment. what if my enjoyment is alcohol, do they guarantee plenty of it when i get to heaven?

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                     Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Nah , no need to escape or lean on any crutch in heaven
                     
                     be high on life

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                  flread45posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Is this going too be by attrition or delition?

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                     James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Attrition i think. It is already happening.

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                        James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

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      Anti-Valentineposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      I like this one, and Mark's one about Satan being a figment of one's imagination. I don't read the religion forum much, but I might start now.

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    Valerie Fposted 10 years ago

    You can't kill what isn't alive.

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    Mishaposted 10 years ago

    You have to ask them, I am not a big specialist in their myths

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    Mishaposted 10 years ago

    Not that I have any idea.

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    mobilephone guideposted 10 years ago

    he lives within us. oh wait, he IS us.

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       Shaul Steinposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       speak for yourself

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          James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          He may be right in that he is trying to present satan as a multiple of souls that exists in individuals,that persist as long as we continue to exist.

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       tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         A part, at least. So kill the devil, kill yourself ! 

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          James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          You may be right. I think it is very logical.

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             earnestshubposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             Yep, can't go killing of the dark side, we need it for comparison!

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                James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

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                   James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                   yes, there should be light and darkness in opposition. But the coincidence of being Leos is more interesting than the satan.

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                      earnestshubposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                      You are a Leo?

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                         tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           Or Satan ? I'm scorpio

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                            James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                            You know that my profile pic do not have that scary eye. Nice to know you are scorpio.

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                               tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 So you like leos in the den? Are you roman ?

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                                  James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                  No. But what is it about Romans and lions?

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                                     tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                       Don't you remeber? weren´t you there?

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                                        James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                        Oh, i remember! the colesseum.

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                         James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                         Yes, I like it in the Den.

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                      Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                      So yer more interested in the stars James ?, or just bonding in general.

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                         James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                         Bonding is definitely the answer.

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                            Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                            like Uhu (glue)

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       andromidaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Certainly he lives within us.In fact many of us successfully developed satan like characteristics.Are those people be called satan.

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       chukra Gposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       not the real us, but us. attachment is 1 of the form of it.

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    Eaglekiwiposted 10 years ago

    Satan can be killed by the one who made him first

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       andromidaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Then we need to kill most of us.

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          Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          We dont need to kill anyone

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          tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          All of us, as good and evil is part of our being, just as good and evil is part of the creation.

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    Eaglekiwiposted 10 years ago

    Doing bad things dont make you satan
    
    Just as doing good things dont make you God

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    Eaglekiwiposted 10 years ago

    When Satan was created his name was Lucifer and he was one of the Head Angels.
    
    He sinned and was thrown from the Garden of Eden (Heaven) and renamed (by God) Satan
    
    Its not the name thats so important ,but the end of the story
    
    I think anyway.

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       andromidaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Do you think that god chose him as a satan.

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          Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          I dont know.
          
          I do know Lucifer chose to challenge God though.
          
          We can chose to follow God or Satan.
          
          In the end we get the same rewards of the Master we chose.

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             andromidaposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             I like your statement.Its a matter of choice for us.

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       tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         So you think that symbolisms are  a fact!   O.K.... If your happy believing fairy tales....

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          Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Think youre the one into stereotypes and fairytales ,how rude anyway ,who are you to mock my beliefs??

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             tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               I'm not mocking your beliefs. I'm stating a fact, that I think is true in MHO .. You're touchy ,arent you?!! And this is a free forum ... I think??

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                Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                Insinuating what I believe is a fairytale, I consider mocking ,therefore rude IMO.
                Whats being a free forum got to do with anything?
                
                Hey Im over it ,just wish people would let others state their opinion ,without the need to critize ,make fun , mock or jeer.
                
                >> see and here  <<<

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                   tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Why don't you take a walk through the posts in this forum? You'll see a lot of people fighting for their beliefs, arguing about it. I don't see anybody crying.  And I'm not mocking you for your belief!! Grow up!

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                      Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                      Woohoo now whose touchy , truth is I dont speak for everyone else ,just me..I was answering a previous question posted anyway  ....so Tantrum you can kiss my grits!

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                         tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                         What a freak !

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       ryankettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       What was his sin?
       
       Anybody get the feeling that this Lucifer chap is just an angel that made a little mistake?
       
       He was subsequently 'demonised' but is probably sitting in a very hot dungeon feeling a bit sorry for himself. Cant we give him a chance to redeem himself?
       
       (sorry just a joke guys, no offence intended)

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          Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Yea nice lil movie script there Ryan  lol , wee cute red devil with horns..
          
          His sin wasnt little ,lol , but no longer unique either.
          
          He wanted to be God ,call it a power struggle, but either way they God and Satan continue to battle...of course only if you believe , if you dont ,well none of matters to some
          
          (jokes are cool, I know some good ones too )

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             ryankettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             Lol, im sure that somebody somewhere has made that movie.... and if they havent, then im sure that it is somewhere in the huge piles of scripts written during the Hollywood writers strike!

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    Alastore001posted 10 years ago

    Personally i dont believe in religion, either side of it.
    If i was to answer the question id have to say i see "Satan" as the embodiment of evil within us, and by that i mean mans ability to do wrong. Which really isnt anything to do with "satan" its just a word given to it.
    Anyway, you cant really get rid of, or kill that because in order to do so you would either have to kill every living man, woman, and child or somehow convert EVERYONE to complete pacifist.

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       tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Agree 100%!

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 10 years ago

    he was an angel wasn't he, then wanted everything and seemingly has it at the moment.... when he offered all the kingdoms of the world to Jesus if he would bow down to him, how could he have offered them if they were not his..

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    ryankettposted 10 years ago

    As soon as I saw this I knew that it was one of those forum topics that nobody should ever, ever, click on! Curiosity got the better of me, and I was proved 100% correct!

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    Eaglekiwiposted 10 years ago

    Its that freaky avatar of yours I agree fugly

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       tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       And so childlish!! I'm really amazed GROW UP

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          Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Change the music ,theres an echo in here

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    Beth100posted 10 years ago

    Both good and bad, evil and pure must co-exist for one cannot exist without the other. To destroy one, would create unbalance, which in turn would destroy the other.

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    tantrumposted 10 years ago

    Well ? so The den, leos....Satan... what are you talking about ?

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       James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       what will surprise you is that, i will respond very well if you ask me a direct question.

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          tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            But you haven't been direct so far... the question is: what leos, dens and Satan is about ?

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             James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             leon=my star, Den=home of thelion, Satan= why is he still living.

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                tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  What is thelion ?  Satan is still livingb ecause you are. You, me ,all of us

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                   James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                   there is a saying that says:"you point one finger at a person when the other fingers points back at you" so what is the meaning is 'livingb ecause'?

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                      James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                      ....and am just going to check your profile. i might find something interesting.

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    Luciendaskyposted 10 years ago

    Well, I heard once that Santa and Satan where the same person since the letters in their names could be moved around to spell the other name... and I don't think it would be very nice to kill Santa...

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       James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       That was very nice. Don't worry, no body is going to kill santa. We need him for christmas.

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    Eaglekiwiposted 10 years ago

    Satan can be 'bound up' but its not a tangible thing, tis a spiritual thing.
    
    Only in 'Jesus name' can Satan be rebuked ,bound up, basically subdued..his demise will come ,when Jesus returns.
    
    If it were not so, the gift of 'free will' choosing who we want to serve would never have been relised.

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       James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       You know what? This question and others are to provoke reponse. But some persons might have just been provoked. They may not be my own personal opinion. What i post here are very different from the contents of my Hub.

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          Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Not sure I understand what youre saying as I dont want to assume anything.
          Do you mean this is your way of drawing attention to you ,your profile ,your hubs?

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             James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             No.But One need to post or respond in a way that makes the conversations going. But some persons might get curious due to a negative response or in other case positive ones. And others may see it as a reason for an avertion.

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                Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                Yes ok , I see what you mean.

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    rcisophieposted 10 years ago

    I can't help myself... this kind of 'questions' just makes me laugh LOL
    
    do you all thing this is something to discuss? Unbelievable :)eh eh eh

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       Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       What do you find funny and why?

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          rcisophieposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Don't get ofended - I don't have any intention of that
          But I'm not going that way.

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       James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Am very happy we made you laugh. That makes it more important so that somebody might laugh. Because laugh is very good for the body and soul.

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          rcisophieposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          I agree with you... is very good to have sense of humour and to laugh or at least smile

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       tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Bom dia ! Como va voce?

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          James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          The contents of your hubpage are rather strange and Unique. They give reasons for curiosity. They are attractive. I might never have known if i did not go there. But i still must go back.

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             tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Take care is addictive ! :

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          rcisophieposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Olá, bem e tu?
          
          I wonder if you got it... just in case 'hello, good and you'?
          Thanks for your message.

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             tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Of course I do !  have lots of friends in Lisbon

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    earnestshubposted 10 years ago

    rcisophie does have a point. It is a loaded question, as one would have to believe in satan in the first place. a bit like asking "are you still beating your wife?"

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       James Agbogunposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       It is that logical. For you have to accept the idea of beating a wife before asking.

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