Gotta know what happens after death?

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   JonTutorposted 13 years ago

   IMO three theories....
   
   1) Christian/Moslem.... one life.... either Heaven granted by Jesus/Allah or condemned to hell.
   2) Budhist/Hindu.... reincarnation.... multiple lives before liberation.
   3) Atheists..... usually no soul... just body... it decomposes.
   
   
   Which of these three theories gotta be true?

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Not all Christians believe in Hell.  Universalists, (with Biblical evidence) believe that heaven awaits all of us.

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         JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Heavens gonna be crowded.... gotta make reservations in advance.

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      Lisa HWposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Not necessarily any of them because the three options don't include any number of other "scenarios" that could be what happens.

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         JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You're right..... Can you add more scenarios?

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      Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well, if these are your only options, just ask yourself a simple question - "Does it make any sense?"
      
      1. A god who decides if you live in perfect bliss or pain for all eternity?
      
      Not really making any sense.
      
      2. You do not really die - you just get reborn as a whole new person/rock/animal?
      
      Hmmm - not really.
      
      3. You die. End of story - the same as every single living thing. OK - they might get their molecules re-used or be "reborn" as something else, but they are gone.
      
      OK - that one works for me.

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         JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Very logical response... blend of 2 & 3.

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      sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I would go for... nothing happens after death.  Solomon says when (maybe it was David) when you die, you die.  Nothing happens, your conscious of nothing, you feel nothing want nothing wish for nothing have not thoughts etc...
      
      Reincarnation I think is logical but I am not so sure that your "memory" of self awareness is attached to it.  Could come back as a rock or a shroud of dust.  Who knows, but ultimately it seems that death is just another step in the great make up of the Universe in which case, I would think that the only thing humans are really concerned with is "self awareness" 
      
      On the third option. I wouldn't say that atheist don't have a soul or believe in their soul or what have you, but yes, the body dies and decomposes.
      
      More or less, the one thing that you can expect is that you will eventually die.  And while I know my theory is not very compatible with atheist or theist alike;
      
      I believe that life will ultimately come back again.  Don't know if it will be the same but when I think about the Universe and how all the properties for life were formed and since what is in the universe will always exist in the Universe, then it is likely that humanity will have it's place again.
      
      Will I remember me, probably not but who knows.

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         JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Let me guess sis... You're trying to see "order"... in this complicated universe..... all theories welcome.

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            sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Na, not really.  I am totally happy to become a star! 

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               JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               You're super star.

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                  sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  You know, I think I was being very insensitive.  I know you just lost your friend.   If it helps you feel better about death.  Maybe it will help to know that statistically, according to doctors etc... that in death the average time passing between life and death is about 10 seconds or less.  And also that the body releases a chemical similar to the same chemical that is released in the female body after giving birth that makes you forget any pain at all. 
                  
                  Some have coined it the "mercy" chemical.  It's something that happens as a result of "shock" or an overwhelming amount of information that the brain cannot process so it shuts down and results in a state of bliss. 
                  
                  Just thought you might like to know.  So in the event you are traumatized about your friend, you can feel some comfort knowing that it is very unlikely that your friend suffered at all. 

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                     JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     You're cool Sis.

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      mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You are too cute Jon and ask questions which are too intelligent for one so young.
      One can die and merge with the Light or heaven or god.You do have a soul or your inner energy which cannot get destroyed.This can merge with the universal soul or all souls ,the super soul or god which is your true home.
      If you have any desire or desires when you die you will come back in order to complete them.
      Its due to desires that you are here right now.

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         JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         @Mohitmisra Thanks Dude..... so many desires in a life time... Gotta know why last thoughts deciding factor.

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         AEvansposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Can you please point this out biblically? I have not ever heard it stated like that before. So the desire or desires would make the people who have not completed there lives ghosts and is this why we have hauntings?

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            mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Jesus says we can sit with him in the kingdom of heaven, the Light or god ,our source.
            Ghosts are supposed to be dead souls still hovering around, don't know where the soul goes for all before it returns.I know one can go back to the Light.

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      mobilephone guideposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      only the dead knows.

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         Colebabieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Who ya callin' Jesus? You've gotta have some serious roaming charges...

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            JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            LOL...

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      Bob Loblahposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      23Aug09
      
      Most people deserve to go to heaven because they have done their time in hell.
      
      Forever and Ever
      Bob Loblah

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      Sanctus Vesaniaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      4) Living soul dies, remains in the grave until either the first or second resurrection.  The saints of God are resurrected in the first resurrection.  All others during the second.

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      andromidaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Its just a relative questions.Unless I die I can't give you the right answer.

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         JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         True.... nobody knows for sure.... but once you die..... how will you communicate with me (if I'm gonna be alive )...

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   Pearldiverposted 13 years ago

   None of them. 
   
   To appreciate the above... ask a corpse.
   
   Le Mort c'est La Mort. C'est la vie!!

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      JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You're right... nobody knows for sure.

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         Pearldiverposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yes I am...
         Don't use up the life you have, trying to find the answer; there is so much more that can be achieved with the life.
         
         A wise man once said that we will All find out in time; yet so many are impatient to know today!!

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            JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Interesting responses.... I'm not impatient... just curious.

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         Ghost32posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Actually, some do know...but if you're not one who does, how do you find out (other than asking a corpse)?

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            mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Ask those who have died and come back

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               tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                 If you believe in reincarnation all of us have come back. So you should ask yourself. see if you find the answer

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                  mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  I do know where my soul went when I died.

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   Ladybird33posted 13 years ago

   life begins after death...in heaven (or at least that is what I believe)

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      James Agbogunposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      And what is your perception of Heaven?

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         JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Do you wanna know.... perception of Jihad folks http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2002/ja … ianreview5

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            James Agbogunposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            And that is applicable to christianity. Those who think heaven is a place of enjoyment should imagine what their pleasures are. That could just be a sin. You deprive yourself here and think it is abundant there, you might just be disappointed. And when you can't catch your fun, it could just be a bore.

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      chukra Gposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      100%

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   tantrumposted 13 years ago

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      JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hell's gonna be great... Hollywood babes.... Gotta enjoy the ride.

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         tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

           Don't forget 2 get ur tickets  ! 

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            JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I'm a "baby"... can sit on Scarlett Johansson lap.

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               Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Talk about crowded places

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                  JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Who is complaining.

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   Mrvoodooposted 13 years ago

   I believe in a mix of 2 and 3.
   
   I forget what it's called but there's some kind of scientific law that states 'energy can not be created or destroyed' it just goes from one form to another endlessly, and I figure that includes us too.
   
   Even if (worst case scenario) you become worm food, you're going to be absorbed into it, and become part of it, or taken up by the roots of a tree, becoming part of one thing, and then in time becoming part of something else.

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      JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Cool response... very close to my opinion.

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   \Brenda Scullyposted 13 years ago

   what about my belief that everyone just goes back to the dust from where they came and await a resurrection.......
   
   That paradise will come to earth..... and we can come back to earth too

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      JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Cool scenario.... limbo till paradise.

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         tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         ' Limbo in the Lime' Nice 4 a musical lol

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            \Brenda Scullyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            go on then write a song about it

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               tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                 I will! I will dedicate it 2 u !

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                  \Brenda Scullyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  thanks will it be nice and respectful or it might upset me.....

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                     tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                       Wait and see! I'm writing it tonight

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                        \Brenda Scullyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        i will not sleep i hope it is going to be really really good and dedicated just to me

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                     JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Gotta have something to think... maybe a bit of both "nice and upset".... gonna spend eternity in limbo.

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      Pearldiverposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Top of the morning to you Brenda.. Welcome back.

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         \Brenda Scullyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         aw thanks pearl diver lovely to be back

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            tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              I left you the poem in your thread of poems . Hope u like it!

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               \Brenda Scullyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               hope i do... or you are in trouble

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   pgrundyposted 13 years ago

   Seriously?
   
   Your disembodied consciousness hangs around for three days, then turns into light and is recycled. There are other choices though. 1) You can hang around here without a body and help out people with problems similar to the ones you left behind (purgatory). Lots of suicides choose this. 2) You can come back with a different body and no memory of the one you left at death, which is kind of like reincarnation (or IS reincarnation). 3) You can stay with God or Light or whatever you want to call it.
   
   How do I know this stuff?
   
   I don't know! lol!
   
   You asked, I provide!

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      JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You're very wise... gotta spend more time thinking through your response.

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   HubChiefposted 13 years ago

   - your family remebers you until they die.
   - your body decayed by pests if you are burried
   - you keep flying in air if you are burnt
   - the soul gets recycled and you forget your last brith
   - After 100 years, no one knows if you existed unless you had a family tradition of "wall pictures of every family picture"
   
   
   I believe in god but realistically, that is how far I can think.

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      JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Matter of fact response... except for soul "reclycled".... welcome hubchief.

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   Mishaposted 13 years ago

   You'll know when you get there

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      JonTutorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Wisest response.

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      \Brenda Scullyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      are you going to be buried alive Misha

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         Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I am not Edgar Poe, but this possibility always scared me...

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            AEvansposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            It will be o.k. and you won't be buried alive. Everyone believes in something and I believe in Heaven so I am not afraid nor should you be.

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 13 years ago

    aren't we all getting on so nicely no arguments on this controversial subjest........... well done jonTutor

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    Shaul Steinposted 13 years ago

    i believe that the way you live on earth will have a direct reflection on you, no matter where you spend it.
    a farmer knows that he will gather corn in a few months if he planted corn.
    whatever we plant, the harvest awaits us.
    if you do what you know is right to do and do not disregard your conscience, then you are free and own no man anything except love.

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    James S. Thorntonposted 13 years ago

    Safe assumption: you go back to where you were in all those 13.5 billion years the Universe existed before you did.
    
    In other words: you go back to the ultimate nothingness.

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       tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Hope it's going to be fun. If not ,what a waste !

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    chukra Gposted 13 years ago

    you will get an amount of money if you are insured

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       and the worms are good for the veggie garden!

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