In "Hot potato" topic..... Moslems and Christians having literal definitions of "God"..... My question..... Why God gotta be what we want Him to be..... IMO The higher power called "God" gotta exist both inside and outside...... "outside".... the wonderful sunrise... the rainbow.... and "inside"... "mother's" love (even when I'm angry with her she still loves me)...... a kind caring heart of a human (serving the poor and needy) ...... that wonderful feeling .... outside/inside.... gotta be "God"= love.
The best definition of God can only be given by God Himself which is
Qur'an, Chapter 112 - The Unity, Sincerity, Oneness Of Allah 1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; 2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; 3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; 4. And there is none like unto Him.
Further if you read The Glorious Qur’an says:
Qur'an, Ch 2 - The Cow: V 255: "Allah. There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory)."
ATTRIBUTES OF GOD:
The Qur’an gives no less than ninety-nine different attributes to Almighty Allah. The Qur’an refers to Allah as Ar-Rahman (Most Gracious), Ar-Raheem (Most Merciful) and Al-Hakeem (All Wise) among many other names. You can call Allah by any name but that name should be beautiful and should not conjure up a mental picture. The Glorious Qur’an says:
Qur’an, Ch 17 - Isra', The Night Journey, Children Of Israel: V 110: "Say: Call upon Allah, or Call upon Rahman: By whatever name you call Upon Him, (it is well): For to Him belong The Most Beautiful Names."
UNITY OF GOD:
Some polytheists argue by saying that the existence of more than one God is not illogical. Let us point out to them that if there were more than one God, they would dispute with one another, each god trying to fulfill his will against the will of the other gods. This can be seen in the mythology of the polytheistic and pantheistic religions. If a ‘God’ is defeated or unable to defeat the others, he is surely not the one true God. Also popular among polytheistic religions is the idea of many Gods, each having different responsibilities. Each one would be responsible for a part of man’s existence e.g. a Sun-God, a Rain-God, etc. This indicates that one ‘God’ is incompetent of certain acts and moreover he is also ignorant of the other Gods’ powers, duties, functions and responsibilities. There cannot be an ignorant and incapable God. If there were more than one God it would surely lead to confusion, disorder, chaos and destruction in the universe. But the universe is in complete harmony. The Glorious Qur’an says:
Qur’an, Ch 21 - The Prophets : V 22: "If there were, in the heavens And the earth, other gods Besides Allah, there would Have been confusion in both! But glory to Allah, The Lord of the Throne: (High is He) above What they attribute to Him!"
If there were more than one God, they would have taken away what they created. The Glorious Qur’an says:
Qur’an, Ch 23 - The Believers : V 91: "No son did Allah beget, Nor is there any god Along with Him: (if there were Many gods), behold, each god Would have taken away What he had created, And some would have Lorded it over others! Glory to Allah! (He is free) From the (sort of) things They attribute to Him!"
Thus the existence of One True, Unique, Supreme, Almighty God, is the only logical concept of God.
Well here are some ways for sure, it does not sound good.
Psalm 2 1 Why are the nations so angry? Why do they waste their time with futile plans? 2 The kings of the earth prepare for battle; the rulers plot together against the Lord and against his anointed one. 3 “Let us break their chains,” they cry, “and free ourselves from slavery to God.” 4 But the one who rules in heaven laughs. The Lord scoffs at them. 5 Then in anger he rebukes them, terrifying them with his fierce fury.
Psalm 37: 12 The wicked plot against the godly; they snarl at them in defiance. 13 But the Lord just laughs, for he sees their day of judgment coming. Psalm 59 7 Listen to the filth that comes from their mouths; their words cut like swords. “After all, who can hear us?” they sneer. 8 But Lord, you laugh at them. You scoff at all the hostile nations.
Proverbs 1 24 “I called you so often, but you wouldn’t come. I reached out to you, but you paid no attention. 25 You ignored my advice and rejected the correction I offered. 26 So I will laugh when you are in trouble! I will mock you when disaster overtakes you— 27 when calamity overtakes you like a storm, when disaster engulfs you like a cyclone, and anguish and distress overwhelm you. 28 “When they cry for help, I will not answer. Though they anxiously search for me, they will not find me. 29 For they hated knowledge and chose not to fear the Lord.
Jon, would be further inward than soul as soul is still definable. When you get to the IT that is not definable you know you know very little. Socrates eluded to "the more we know, the more we don't know" Paradoxes.
I think you are on to it Jon, and at a young age. Look within yourself, study yourself, you will find more of the love and the self knowing you seek. Sorry I think it usually takes a long time. edit That sounds condescending, my apologies. I mean to say it is taking me a long time
her definition awaken your ego. so the way she carrying god is false. will you agree eaglekiwi, actually we all forgot that god is carrying us not vice versa, why promoting him untill awaken evils from angels. all you religionist awakening evils from angels, why you have to awaken their ego, i will never against what marks reply to you, nothing wrong in his reply, because the way you promote god deserve this reply.
First of all I am not a religionist, first time I ever heard that expression was here in Hubpages, so I take it its a 'now' word created by some man, on some lofty stage somewhere promoting the latest theory which is nothing new ,just updated from time to time....
No Mark, I'm not saying any of that. I think, with all due respect, you have a bad case of reading between the lines. It was sort of a friendly, smart alec kind of question. Just wanted to see how you would respond.
BTW, if it's means anything to you, I find you intriguing on the whole. The Draino-drain-cleaner approach might be a bit of over kill at times, but on the whole, I think you're very thoughtful.
Have at me if you care. I bear no Draino, or other weapons. Just was intrigued by your response(s).
You make a decision in everything you do, right or wrong, good or bad. God gave us the power of free will. We have the choice of choosing him or not. But have you ever stopped to think about where your conscious comes from?
I do not consider my God as a "magical super being". And I know that I cannot explain to you what he is to me. But do you not believe that there is a supreme being who created everthing, maybe you don't want to call him God, but what do you believe.
Glad you like my avatar. I didn't steal it, I downloaded it and if it ends up being copywrited or something, then I'll change it back to a picture of one of my dogs. no big deal.
Am curious how your conscious works? in theory that is
Why is lying bad for example? or is it
Maybe it looks irrational because you have already determined it is, dunno
Its about choices every single day whether I be good or bad ,make good decisions ,make dumb ones ,kick the dog ,dont kick the dog.
If I truly lived for myself though , I wouldnt give a sh..t about what anyone else thought. Knock over a bank tomorrow ,steal a lil old ladies car , beat the crap outta my kids..lie ,cheat , and maybe even hold down a top earning job in the most prestigous profession...while rippin of the system and hurting my family
So no God did not create sin but he made sure there would be a consquence for it ,so that it never enters heaven again.
Sin is created by man. Sin is missing the mark of perfection. That is the definition taken from the Romans anyhow, when they shot an arrow and it missed. Man misses the mark of perfection and that creates a sin.
some people choose money as their god anything we worship turns into a god
However the god of the bible has no beginning and no end, and is whether we like it or not higher power than us...... and i believe can and will take control over the earth and make it a peaceful place in his time,,,, hope i live to see it
May be he wants to sleep with you, i know how deceptively these kind of oldies take hold of innocents like you just to fulfill their illegitimate sexual desires. May God keep you away from Mark's evil thoughts.
God is undefinable and probably Sandra has come the closest - It is what it is. Is-ness is a term that describes the state of being with no sense of individuality. Yoga = Union, unity is the state of oneness - ie a sense of being with no sense of individuality.
When a person puts descriptive words to what God is, it puts limitations on something that is limitless. When words are used to describe God, that God is then made personal as the standpoint from which you make those statements is limited by a personal perception.
A Transpersonal perception is more in line with the Whole and not the individual.
God IS everything - the good, bad and ugly, the magnificent and the fallen, the united and separate. To say God is not part of the fallen experiences is a mistake and has left the speaker in a state of only being half of what is within them - that is not whole.
God is a powerful entity higher than mankind He communicated with Adam, Abraham and others. They asked his name and he said "I AM". I AM gave Moses the ten commandments. At the very least these commandments can be said to be really good advice for mankind to stay out of trouble while enjoying life to the fullest. Many did not follow these commandments. I AM devised another plan to fix our problem. I AM sacrificed a part of himself God created the bugs and the birds.Birds ate the bugs, the eagle and rabbits and squirrels. The eagle ate the rabbits, The Rabbit thought the eagle was evil. I AM created good and evil AM created Live and death I AM gave us free will with that part in between. I AM created numerious doors to exit through when we die. We may not like what we find behind some of the doors. I do not think that this deffination should offend anyone except for my leaving off the window dressing. Diffrent religions dress him diffrently. No matter what dressing we put on him he will still be who HE is...He is the ...I AM.. I left off the window dressing part
God? God is a man made myth. Man has always made gods because of his fear of death and dying. No proof exists for any god, but proof of "religiosity" abounds!
Proof of evolution is available in hundreds of thousands of scientific papers that show masses of proof, even if you remove Darwin completely you have no where to go.
Opposing scientific views are always loaded like religion and written by religionists. I could never worship an entity who was more neurotic than anyone who is outside an asylum for the criminally insane.
I found this passage in one of Wayne Dyer's books referring to our search for God "Next time you meet Him in the forest or on a crowded street, there won't be anymore 'leaving'. That is, God will climb into your pocket and you will simply just take yourself along" Perhaps the question should be "define what isn't God"
WHY is god a he??? God is me! My choice, my SELF. I take account for my faults as I am I also take pride in my Good!! I am God, You are god...god is a imaginary being used to put off our own flaws or to even be able to have pride in our Goodness. Be Proud to be YOU!!GOD!!!
God is the stability and protection in our lives. His Son is the Love in our lives and hearts. His Holy Spirit is the Knowledge that keeps us on the straight and narrow Road. And... I loved the comment about making God laugh. Because... He makes me laugh all the time. He has the Perfect Personality! And He Knows each and every one of us, inside and out! God IS a He, to me! He is my father only more Perfect. He is the man I Love, even more Kind and Generous. He is my brother, but even more Intelligent. He is my son, with even more Devotion and Loyalty. I would have Him no other way than to be a HE. And... He is not me!
"God is everything or he is nothing at all" The only name "God" Gave himself in the old test. of the Christion Scripture is "I AM" All others were given to him by others. Yes Mark He is creator of all, However he also created Free-will in mankind. He gave the directions of how to live best within his creation, Mankind as a whole has used free will to make it's own choices, to walk further and further away from the directions (His will, plan or what ever). Kind of like if you went to a friends house and had the best tasting cake (Although I myself would never try this, not a great cook..just ask my family) and asked for the recipe. When you got home you took out the recipe but when reading it you think, I really don't need three eggs I think I'll use one, or add one tbl vanilla, I think it would be better with five you get the Idea...When you take it out of the oven it is horrible! You can't blame the creator of the recipe for that! You didn't follow the directions.
My friend says: Love has a voice, it speaks in stillness and in silence, a silence that is piercing. Love spoken is kind and gentle, love can also speak without words. Love can speak with the eyes through people. Love is louder than any word.
Kiwi - this is meaningless twaddle. Clearly you are unable to define god. The idea that "sin" is the cause of disease. Deary me. No wonder you are so confused and need to attack scientific facts.
And please format your posts so they are readable - as a matter of common courtesy to others.
But - I will humor part of it. Let is say you know for certain that giving your son a house will end in his violent death because you know the house will be broken into by nasty men who will rape and murder him.
My friend says: Love is light. Love will always remain. To refuse love is to be in outer darkness. One without love is tormented within wherever one is. Surrendering to love is to become needless and full of light. Love needs no defense and nothing can defend against love.
You can't say god is all knowing and all powerful and yet blame all the bad things on the devil. If god only does good but is unable to stop the evil caused by the devil then gods power is obviously limited. This undermines the whole basis of god.
God is a fabrication of the human psyche developed to explain the unexplainable mysteries of the universe and keep the masses in check through fear and subservience with an instrument commonly known as religion.
God is: your best friend, when you are under a flu.. family and friends help you to feel better. He will always be there for you, mentally, just have faith. By going to church you feel an outstanding since of love and compassion for one and another. Learning from the bible,. A famous quote.. random act of kindness.. comes to mind. Hugs to all.. ;-)