I just gotta ask...

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   lrohnerposted 14 years ago

   I've read so many religious posts/threads on HP it's nauseating. I mean, do you guys really, really think you're gonna convert someone or change their mind on their anti/pro-religious beliefs from some/two/three forum posts? I mean really!!!
   
   Jesus or God or someone said "go forth and prosper" -- not "sit here and argue with everyone".

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      Lady_Eposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      True.

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         lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks, Lady E. I thought I was the only one on here trying to figure out what the heck they were trying to achieve!

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      Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I think the real evidence is that it's just painful for most of us to not engage in a good argument. Apparently arguing is more important than religion, because it always come down to the argument (or so I seem to observe) Preaching is a good argument. Arguing is even better. LOL
      
      Pass the pasta, pleeeeeze.

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      Drew Breezzyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I agree
      
      If you wanna talk about your religion thats cool. But stuffing it down ones throat is not.

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         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         It's hard to swallow so many Bible quotes.

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            Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            It's not a reason for throwing a tantrum though

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      mobilephone guideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      no. i'm just here to annoy people.

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         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

           And how are you going to do that ?

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         lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Well then, keep talking and I'll let you know how you're doing.

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      rmcrayneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What's the alphabet soup for 'grinning from ear to ear' or 'smiling so big my face might crack' or some such.  I think I have a great sense of humor, but don't seem to laugh constantly like many people on the forums. But you did make me smile very big.

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         lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I just really wanna know what's on the other end of that leash you're holding?

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            rmcrayneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            <More big smiles> A one-eyed 4 year old Boykin Spaniel, with broken pelvis and organ injury.  It was the adoption meet and greet in Knoxville.  It was 1/3 the way from Charlotte NC and IL (I was stationed at Scott AFB at the time).  It was 4 months after Miss Mocha Bean Crayne passed at the ripe old age of 15 1/2.

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      atomswifeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I do not think that I or anyone else for matter who believes and conversates here on the forums are trying to argue in hopes of converting the ones we speak to.
      
      There are those that read too who, only read and do not conversate or join the debates.
      
      There are those who may read and find comfort, strength or belief through the words of the believers. Just as there are people who might read and doubt us or Gods Word.
      
      So to say we should just go forth and prosper, I would have to add, Prosper in what?
      Are we not called upon to spread the gospel as well? Is that not part of our charge by God?
      
      As a Christian, A believer, I stand up for my beliefs. I take a stand for God and His Word. Is that wrong?
      Then if it is, I am wrong and will remain that way.

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         lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         And they come to HubPages forums to do it? Isn't that what church groups and religious forums are for?

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            Make Moneyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            This is a Religion forum.  So it should be expected that there would be threads started about religion in this Religion forum.  Anything else in this Religion forum would be off topic which goes against the HubPages TOS.

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               lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Read my original question. I wasn't questioning the number of threads in the Religion forum, just the seemingly disproportionate number of religion threads overall in the HubPages forum.

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                  Make Moneyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Actually I did read your original post lrohner.  And this thread is basically off topic for the Religion forum.  If you think some threads in this Religion forum are, in your own words "nauseating" then simply don't read them.

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                     lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     I am talking about religion. And I'm talking about religion threads. And I'm talking about how disproportionate religion threads appear to be in the HP forum. So yes. It is on topic. Would you prefer I post this in Politics?
                     
                     I don't read them -- anymore. I did when I started, but discovered that there were way too many close-minded folks who all believe they're "right" arguing with each other. I mean, does it really make a difference what we believe in in the grand scheme of things? As long as we live a good, clean, productive life, does Allah or God or Buddha or Jehova or whoever really care whether we went to mass or attended synagogue or observed Ramadan? If there is a divine being out there, he or she wouldn't be as close minded as some of you.

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                        aka-djposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        He is not closed minded. He is HOLY. Once you get a grasp on that (if you can), then it becomes obvious, that there is only ONE way, and that's His way. He has already said, that our own righteousness is as filthy rags to Him. IE, NONE are GOOD enough!! That's the message. (well, the first part of the message.) Once you understand the first part, the second part makes more sense!

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                           lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           First off, don't start the personal crap you people are so famous for.
                           
                           Second, not quite sure what you're trying to say here. Did you not read my post? Are you trying to tell me that your God would do something terrible to me when I die just because I didn't go around spouting his/her scriptures although I led and clean, productive and good life?
                           
                           Hmmmm...if so, then your god isn't my God. That's for darn sure.

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                              Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              Jesus said Why are they making up all of those rules

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                              ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              That's why I'm a Deist at heart.  The rules are there for those who have the wit to see.

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                              Jane@CMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              Lisa, isn't it good to know you can start a thread with a great question in mind, and BOOM, you are not being tracked and told how you should be.  Although you posted nothing about wanting scriptures - you got them!  Pretty soon they'll be at your door, pamphlet in hand or directing you to a website where you can learn how to live in "their way". LOL

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                                 lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 LOL! I know! *watching out my front window*

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                        Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy, end of Quote, no interpretations allowed, No amendments unless your name is GOD   NO stipulations   Can do this on a lake or next to the back yard BBQ with a beer in your hand if ya want to,

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   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   Yeah, I am up to converting all the false believers and non believers to the only true religion, pastafarianism!

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      lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Ooooooh...does that come with Alfredo sauce or Bolognese?

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         Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Both. But not at the same time, mind you!

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      Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I wanna join! lmao I'll take alfredo sauce please

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         lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I'll go carbonera, thankyouverymuch!

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            Lisa HWposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Ooh - I'm not generally a big pasta "follower"; but I do believe that Carbonara is the only one, true, religion.  Carbonara is the way to world peace. 

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               lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Aaaah, we are now officially sisters in Carbonarahood!

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         Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         You can start by joining the Flying spaghetti monster fan club. http://hubpages.com/profile/Spaghetti+Monster
         
         And yes, both sauce and red wine are guaranteed for true believers even in this life!

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            Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I have joined

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            wordscribe41posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Haven't seen as much of the FSM as I'd hoped though, Misha?  I mean I know He's busy and all with the world's operations, but a little more forum time would suit me nicely. 
            
            RAmen

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      secondreviewposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      that was quite funny, thanks for bringing a smile to my face.

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   Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

   Amen Irohner! I am so sick of those arguing in the religion threads.

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   shamelabboushposted 14 years ago

   Really sickening where everyone accuses everyone of being pagan or atheist and sometimes they abuse each other.

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      lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Sometimes? Geez, sometimes I think we should set up a religious violence hotline!

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         shamelabboushposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         True

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   Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

   Does it also include some red wine? hehehe

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      mtsi1098posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      drinking mine as I write...

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         Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Very nice.

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   Jane@CMposted 14 years ago

   I'm so sick of it and the politics too.  If you try to post anything else, its buried under the political and religion forums.
   
   I for one, think it is scaring people off the forums & the forums are losing the community feel.  But, free speech is what their after and beating people up with words is their game.  What gets me the most, is those who claim they are religious are spewing at other people, now really, does this go with the way of "Love thy Neighbor as Thy Self" (snickers).
   
   Obviously, the hub staff gets a real kick out of it, or they'd have done something by now, so needless to say, its really out of hands.

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      lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      So true, Jane. I mean, I'm all for debate and everything. But these threads get ugly and go on 4ever!!! What do they really think they're accomplishing?
      
      BTW, how's your daughter doing at school?

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         Jane@CMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         She is doing great...to busy to call home!  She loves it so much she is now referring to her dorm as "home".
         
         BTW I love a good pasta sauce, I'd love to learn how to make a good white sauce and a other sauces.  So can I join the club?

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            lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Absolutely! Misha is the Pastafarian God here, though. So he has the last say! (Glad to hear everything's going well for your daughter...)

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   Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

   lol you and Lisa are bonded forever now lol

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      lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      And you? What's your sauce?

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         Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I am more parctial towards alfredo...or something with roasted garlic and mushrooms Oh YUM!

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   Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

   Which school is she attending Jane?

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      Jane@CMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      She is at the University of MN, School of Engineering (IT)

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         Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Very nice!
         
         
         okay now I'm starving! thanks guys. I blame Misha for starting it all lmao

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   lrohnerposted 14 years ago

   Oh yeah, Misha...the God of all that is Pastafaria! (Gotta keep it religious you know. We're in the religion forum.)

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      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      No-no, I am not the God, I am not even a high priest. Jenny, Eric, Mark - those are the guys you should blame.

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    I guess ask and you shall receive.
    
    RAmen.

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    wordscribe41posted 14 years ago

    To answer your question, Irohner, people go onto the forums for many different reasons.  Some REALLY do want to learn the opposing views, some just want to be incorrigible, some are not sure which way they want to go as far as belief goes, etc...  I've actually learned a GREAT deal from the forums.  I've even learned things about myself (some not good, mind you).  But, I don't have any intention of conversion either way, just of understanding and even intellectual dialect.  I enjoy a lot of the people there...

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    Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

    LOL Misha...
    
    and you both are right Drew and tantrum. I am sick of reading Bible quotes. I didn't like reading the Bible in the past and still don't..No offense but just not my thing.

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       cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       those FIENDS (rolls eyes)
       
       i have a wild, crazy idea. don't read those threads. or stay out of the Religion forum altogether. (told ya it was crazy)
       
       i usually stay out of threads that i just know are going to be boring.
       
       i hardly ever read anything that disgusts me to the point of nausea though. even if i did, i would keep it to myself.

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          lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I do stay out of them. I'm really just questioning the number of religious threads. As I write this, there are 7 religious threads out of the first 30 listed. That's 23% of the threads.
          
          There are 24 topics that one can possibly start a thread in, and religion is only one of them. That's only 4% of the total categories.
          
          So I ask again, why oh why are there so many religious threads here on HP?

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    My Friend Shiylohposted 14 years ago

    I brought only love to the table and it got trashed. 
    
    
    Many tried to  love in contempt and anger.
    
    
    Left love standing there going
    
    
    Some got down right  me for it.
    
    
    I posted a couple of topics about love and yet they got little response because people would just rather  over religion, not realizing that it is love and not religion that God is all about.
    
    
    It was quite a shock to hear people having a
    
    
    All of this
    
    
    Even the believers had little to no good comments about what love was saying but were off in other threads trying to get everyone to  to what they say.
    
    
    So I think I can count on 1 hand the people who had good comments about love and the rest were just ever to happy to  at me instead !!!
    
    
    The reason why I never got  is because I am in love with, above all things.....love.
    
    
    So I wish it would all just
    
    ~Shiyloh~

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       tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

           I love this 1

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    My Friend Shiylohposted 14 years ago

    

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    My Friend Shiylohposted 14 years ago

    Took an hour to make.
    All done in love.
    
    Love is creative too.

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       tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       and planetsmilies !

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          My Friend Shiylohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Fo sho

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    Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

    Wow My Friend Shlyloh you said a mouthful Love the added faces to it.

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    Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

    So Misha when is the first meeting for our new religion pastafarianism?

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    There are no meetings, you just pray for being touched by His Noodly Appendage, and eat spaghetti with meatballs

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    Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

    OMG okay that sounded so wrong...touched by his Noodly Appendage...

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    Spaghetti Monsterposted 14 years ago

    One of you will be touched this night (in a non sexual way - unless that is your preference) by My Noodly Appendage.
    
    The fighting over religion will continue until all have been converted to the One True Faith.
    
    Just remember - Pasta First
    
    Now go forth and create culinary delights with the bounty I have provided.

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    Jeramiposted 14 years ago

    I admire people that stand up for what they believe in, IF they really believe in it. Some people are told what is TRUE and without investigating the facts will jump on somebody else's band wagon, and scream the loudest. I also respect the protesters when they really believe they are right. But those that are protesting for the sake of making the most noise..NOT

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    Jeramiposted 14 years ago

    Actually the question is why are there always more religious comments on the    MOST  RECENT  COMENT  posted list. I guess we talk more.  we hardly ever post in the other sections

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    aka-djposted 14 years ago

    I think that many people have difficulty expressing their beliefs in the real world. This forum gives them a medium less threatening.
    I don't think it's ever about "converting".
    I think it would take WAY MORE than a few posts here to change a person's life long convictions.

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    Proselytizing? Uh-oh...

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    LOL Lisa, isn't it fun to see how two competing camps are fighting to get your soul.

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       Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I think that her soul is just fine where it is

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       lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Absolutely, Misha. Cracks me up!!!

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