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Can he be a Christian who inquires, if all men are to be saved, what use is ther

  1. SwordofManticorE profile image79
    SwordofManticorEposted 5 years ago

    Can he be a Christian who inquires, if all men are to be saved, what use is there in being virtuous?

  2. calynbana profile image82
    calynbanaposted 5 years ago

    He can if he recognizes the human brokenness described in the Bible. We are broken, selfish creatures. If we know for a fact that everyone of us is going to have communion with God in heaven after death no matter what we do, and that everything we do and have done is forgiven no matter what then we have no need to be virtuous. We can give into our base instincts and do what is best for us, do whatever it takes to have the Best possible life now, knowing that later we will have eternal bliss and joy in heavenly life.

    But that is not what we know as fact. What we know is that Jesus says the gate is narrow leading to heaven, and wide leading to destruction. We know that Jesus says not everyone who calls His name will see the kingdom of Heaven. We know that if we need to strive to do what our Lord commands. The two greatest commandments. Love God and Love other people. That looks like being virtuous.

    1. SwordofManticorE profile image79
      SwordofManticorEposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I for one believe in Universal reconciliation and I strive to live a godly life though I do fail at times so your answer makes little sense sister, because I do not know one UR believer who lives his or her life as it there are no consequenses.

    2. calynbana profile image82
      calynbanaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I do.

    3. SwordofManticorE profile image79
      SwordofManticorEposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      He or she will harvest what they sow, but in this life time.

    4. Disappearinghead profile image77
      Disappearingheadposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      @Caly. In Matthew 7 where Jesus talks about wide and narrow gates there is nothing to suggest he is talking about heaven or hell. In the plain reading it's seems to me he is talking about this life on Earth and the directions our lives go in.

  3. celafoe profile image60
    celafoeposted 5 years ago

    I personally want nothing to do with the purveyors of this false doctrine.    My bible tells me about them in several ways.
    Prov 12:26 The righteous should choose his friends carefully,
    For the way of the wicked leads them astray.
    I personally know two of the main  men in this cult and one was a dear and close friend until he started promoting this false gospel.    They base it on about 150 scripture.    I checked context on the first 76 and all were taken out of context or incomplete.  I know it is from satan and will not accept anything a believe of it has to say.