Oh crap! Armageddon

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   sandra rinckposted 13 years ago

   If you watched the president's speech on Afghanistan the other day then you know that he called the war a religious one.
   
   Personally, the president scares me to death and I nearly hate him.  With that said...
   
   I was flipping through channels just a few minutes ago and saw just a few words on Amanpour speaking with the president of Afghanistan.
   
   Hopefully someone else caught the whole broadcast but this is what I heard him say.
   
   "By all means necessary, by all means necessary, by all means necessary.  I will by all means necessary help the people of Afghanistan."
   
   Mrs. Amanpour suddenly looked afraid, very afraid and abruptly ended the interview with him.  She looked extremely worried to me.
   
   
   Did the president of Afghanistan just threaten us?  Obama got his wish in asking for help from the British with his request to have at least 6,000 more troops to help over there.  He get's more then he asked for.
   
   Are we gonna get nuked?  I am being serious, the whole idea of America helping liberate the people and defeat the Taliban seems like a facades.
   
   I think it is strange that Obama thinks it's a good idea to tell the entire world he is sending more troops there.  I think it is strange that he tells the world that he has a plan to start withdrawing in 2011 and I think it is even more strange that he just told them where he is going to put the troops too.
   
   Now, I am not a war strategist or anything like that but why would you tell your enemy where you will be?  Why would he call it a religious war, why would he bring up 911 and the hunt for what's his face and then say that the guy they are hunting down isn't even there.
   
   Because he announces that it is a religious war, I don't know what this really is other then the feeling that he is setting up for Armageddon. 
   
   The timing seems right, the circumstances seem right, Obama seems more like a third world leader... dictator then anything else.

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      DogSiDaedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think that any country would dare, they would be annihalated easily. I wouldn't worry. Plus if a nuke falls on you you'll die quickly.

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         marinealways24posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You do have some good points.

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Paranoia will destroyya

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         sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         And you think I am the paranoid one.   Obama rules!

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      Dim Flaxenwickposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      couldn't agree with you more. I keep expecting any day now to see two horns growing out of Obamas' forehead. He scares me to death too

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   Crazdwriterposted 13 years ago

   oh jeez Sandra i hope you are wrong and we don't get nuked that is too scary to think.

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   Denno66posted 13 years ago

   Hmmm, India and Pakistan nearby with their nukes.....

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   marinealways24posted 13 years ago

   Um...

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      Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Afghanistan doesn't have nukes?

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         sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         And the Taliban isn't really in Afghanistan either but on the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan but mostly in Pakistan.

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            myownworldposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Taliban in pakistan were originally trained by American CIA to fight russians in Afghanistan...so it's actually a monster of their own creation that has grown too big for them to fight!
            Besides, it IS the war in Afghanistan that has pushed them over the border into waziristan...so what then...are they going to now enter into another country and turn it into another afghanistan?
            it's endless....and meanwhile one country after another is being turned into war zone....

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               tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               So true. Talibans were used once by USA and now they're used again,in another way .

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         Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

           But if we were to put all of our troops in one place; the taliban and their allies totally leave the area; appearing that we have won? Everyone in Afghanistan are seen as our allies, Why wouldn't they nuke us and our allies?
         
             Scary  if ya think about it.

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            ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Are you completely stupid? Who exactly is going to nuke the allied forces? The Taliban do not have nuclear weapons, else they would have used them a long time ago.

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               Jeffrey Nealposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Such a way with words.

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               Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   Considering that these extremists want nothing more than to bring about the end of their Jihad, I think that they would use any means available to do something like that. Maybe not nukes but something just as demoralizing.  I mentioned it as a possability only.

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                  ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Please explain how the president of Afghanistan relates in any way to extremism or Jihad, this thread is about Hamid Karzai. Educate yourself so that you can distinguish between extremists and the good people, Karzai is an ally of the Americans and does not want them to leave the country.

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                     Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Unless the Hamid Karzai is a member of the Taliban I wasn't talking about him doing anything. He would then be an ally of the us.

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                        ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Well get off this thread then, the original post referred to the president of Afghanistan - who is Hamid Karzai. If you haven't got anything constructive or relevant to say then don't say anything at all.

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                           A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Ryan will be giving a lecture on making friends and influencing people in the near future!

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                        sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        According to the interview, which I posted, it seems plausible that Karzai is Taliban.
                        
                        He tries to make a distinction between the 'good' Taliban and the 'bad' Taliban. It seems more like Amerika is allies with the Taliban.
                        
                        Read between the lines, this is what it looks like.

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                           ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Karzai used to be a member of the Taliban, he has openly admitted this. He later left, and his father was assasinated by The Taliban as a result. He is now very anti-Taliban and very critical of America for providing them with weapons. Please remember that The Taliban were not the group of people that attacked America on 9/11 though, and have not been responsible for any deaths in the West, Americans and British should perhaps remember that. The Taliban have not blown up tube trains in London and Madrid, or flown planes into Stock Markets.

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                              sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              Apparently Karzi is still Taliban but a divided one in which it seems he wants to implore the Taliban that he sided with against the Taliban that killed his father then. 
                              
                              You have to watch the interview.  He is definitely not anti-taliban.  His interview doesn't indicate that he is critical of Amerika for giving them weapons either but in a round about way he is saying that the 'good' Taliban will reform and rule Afghanistan.
                              
                              Leaving 911 out of it and sticking to what he just said and the portion of the interview that was removed.

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                                 ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 I haven't seen the interview to be honest, but I guess that is all plausible. All I know is that he is in no rush to take over from the Americans http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5B51GH20091206 - I am sure that he is no angel, but is the democratically elected president. There is no way that he would attack the allied forces, since in actually wants them to stay for the time being....

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                                    sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                    Okay, and that is what I am saying when I say, it seems that Amerika is allies to the Taliban. 

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                              A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              Hmmmm, you must have a very good intelligence agency working for you. Most people who spend their time on Hubpages don't have the detailed knowledge you seem to possess, or maybe you just don't have a fucking clue as to what you are talking about but want others to think you do, toss up!

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   tantrumposted 13 years ago

   It doesn't surprised me at all !
   I never understood why a lot of people bought Obama's hoax ?
   I'm very sorry !

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   cindyvineposted 13 years ago

   Everybody's got nukes!

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   Jeffrey Nealposted 13 years ago

   I'll have to try to see if I can find that interview.  I really hate conspiracy theories, but maybe this is plausible?
   Is Obama setting up for Helter Skelter?
   
   I agree that it is suspicious to announce the entire plan to the world.  What's up with that?

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   Denno66posted 13 years ago

   We have no business being there.Period.

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   cindyvineposted 13 years ago

   I'm not American so that's why I might come across as thick, but didn't people vote Obama in because he was going to recall the troops?

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      eyeofhposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      People voted Obama in because "Change" makes a great bumper sticker.  Sadly, that is as deep as it got!

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         A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Funny as hell and unfortunately true!

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      Ghost32posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yup.  "Change".

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    ryankettposted 13 years ago

    Who would nuke America? The Taliban do not have nukes, Al Quaeda do not have nukes.
    
    India are allies of the west, Pakistan are fighting the Taliban themselves, Russia have had a war with Afghanistan, China are making money from this war, the UK are Americas allies, Isreal are American allies, and North Korea have nothing whatsoever to do with Afghanistan.
    
    The president of Afghanistan has no access whatsoever to nuclear weapons, and was probably himself referring to the battle against the Taliban. Remember that the current Afghan leaders are not extremists and work closely with the USA.

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       tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       And that's the whole point.
       What people believe to be facts, sometimes  turn into a farse.

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       myownworldposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       exactly! I am at the moment in south asia...on a trip to study the taliban and the refugee crisis here in pakistan....and trust me, all these so called talibans are just poor fanatics who are obviously being supplied by the latest state of the art ammunition that just doesn't make sense how it ended up in their hands....! And the civilian deaths adding up every day is just not being reported in the media! absolute crisis here....

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          tony0724posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          MYO you a journalist by chance ?

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             myownworldposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Im actually training as a psychiatrist here in london but I like to study and work with poor people all over the world (social work projects)...it's a passion with me....so...here I am for a month in pakistan at the moment....

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    Denno66posted 13 years ago

    Wars need to happen so that the latest technologies can be tested.

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       marinealways24posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       And so it can stimulate jobs to produce the technology.

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          Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Military/Industrial Complex and all.....

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       ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       With no wars the world would not need to test the latest weapons of death, and the worlds scientists could concentrate on curing disease and preventing natural disasters.

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          Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Or building a base on the Moon decades ago as a jump=off point to further colonization efforts on Mars. I'm such a Sci-Fi geek

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             ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Not going to happen in our life time mate, at least unless they find the secret to eternal life in the next half a century and we each make millions of pounds from adsense to pay for it

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                Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Hmmm, with a defense budget of $500 Billion, you'd think some of that could have gone to space exploration. That's it, I'm putting a bikini pic for my avatar to raise the needed funds

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                   myownworldposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   
                   
                   (@ tony: don't worry...am ok...and quite fearless!

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    sandra rinckposted 13 years ago

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/1 … index.html
    
    OMFG!!! They cut it out!  I swear it on my life that he said what he said but the cut off the last couple minutes of the interview.  OMG, OMG, OMG!!!

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       tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       That doesn't look good !

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    tony0724posted 13 years ago

    @MYO just be careful over there please !
    @ Sandra I am not surprised I was going to write a hub the other day about a congressperson , and the Information I had originally seen had dissapeared off the face of the earth . So I beleive you

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       sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       This is happening a lot.

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    Denno66posted 13 years ago

    I don't doubt that, MYO

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       myownworldposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       it's actually quite fascinating to be at the centre of things....and see how people can sit far away and support these wars....! I say, come talk to the common man here on the streets....you'll see how they're all sick to death of these wars, talibans and american govt. alike!

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          tony0724posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          MYO we here stateside are getting pretty sick of American Gov,t too ! Pass that onto the people there please .

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             sandra rinckposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks to Cold War Baby, when referring to America the Government, we now use AmeriKa. lol 
             
             At least it has caught on with me.   I love America, but do not support AmeriKa

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             myownworldposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I will....and just to let u know the average pakistani is as far removed from taliban as u can ever imagine....and actually wants them (along with nato forces) the hell out of their country! the refugee crises and civilians deaths everyday are crippling in numbers.....and the hospitals are overflowing with children and women....! unbelievable really....so much for this war on terror!

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    Denno66posted 13 years ago

    We, for the most part, are fed what we want to hear by the Government. Conspiracy-theorist? Perhaps. But, you see more than I probably ever will.

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    awareposted 13 years ago

    nukes are fubar.

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    Jeramiposted 13 years ago

    I do not know who the engineer of the train is. I just know how fast it's going and which dierction it is going in.
       Time to hunker down and watch and see.

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    Denno66posted 13 years ago

    Drivin' my train...

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       A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       High on cocaine

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          Jeffrey Nealposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Casey Jones you better, watch your speed.
          Trouble ahead, trouble behind...

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          eyeofhposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Casey Jones you better watch your speed!

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    quietnessandtrustposted 13 years ago

    The illusion of the people in charge is that they are in charge.
    Puppets are an illusion believed upon by children.
    Illusions lead to a conclusion of delusion.
    
    What we are told are "facts", the facts concocted by puppeteers.
    We are given a perception from an illusion that has nothing to do with truth.
    
    Children love 2 things, puppets and Kool-aide.

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       marinealways24posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       and something to believe.

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    Clara Ghomesposted 13 years ago

    Don't know much about it but one thing is for sure.. i juts loved the movie Armageddon..

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       marinealways24posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       It made tons of money. Good marketing and money to be made off of Armageddons. How much did the movie 2012 bring in?

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    mobilephone guideposted 13 years ago

    cool fireworks, just leave me out of it.
    
    probably enough to buy themselves a spaceship/ark ticket.

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       rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       movie was better~~~
       
       another conspiracy thread....

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    sneakorocksolidposted 13 years ago

    We are now accepting applications for new members at our church!

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    SirDentposted 13 years ago

    I thought this thread was about the Bruce Willis Movie from a few years ago.

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    A Texanposted 13 years ago

    and you know that notion just crossed my mind?

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