Why is it that God gets the credit when it's the Drs/Nurses who've done all the

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   jlparkposted 11 years ago

   Why is it that God gets the credit when it's the Drs/Nurses who've done all the work?
   
   People with cancer, in car accidents, in general ill health - the medical professions work their little behinds off saving or healing patients - yet, if the patient happens to be religious and has prayed for a miracle - God gets the credit.  Why is that? Should they have stepped back and let Him do his thing? Would it have happened with out them?? I will share what I think after a few answers.

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   lone77starposted 11 years ago

   Who do you think put the atoms here that make up the bodies of the doctors and nurses? Who do you think created the space and allowed the time in which all of these things play out?
   
   The part of God that is in within each of us is capable of a great many miraculous things, including healing. Work and effort are no part of that.
   
   What is sad is that doctors and nurses sometimes do things that are harmful, rather than helpful. They have been taught, for instance, by the pharmaceutical giants and the schools they fund, that chemo and radiation are good for "curing" cancer, when in fact they are poisons that can lead to more cancer. The love and compassion of the doctor or nurse are far more powerful than any physical action they take. Those same pharma companies have participated in outlawing actual cancer cures. Some doctors are finally becoming aware of this, but the news media is part of the same corporate machine that jealously guards their profit engine.
   
   In many cases, the faith of the patient is insufficient to perform the healing, so they rely on the mechanical of continuity-based reality. But there are instances when the mechanical damage is too much and no amount of physical effort can cure the injury or disease. That's when faith and the power of creation come into play. When the patient walks out of the hospital whole, days or weeks later, the doctors and nurses are amazed. Little that they did had anything to do with the miracle they observe.
   
   When a patient places their faith in the mechanical, then they can only receive mechanical possibilities (surgery, chemicals, radiation, etc). But when a patient puts their faith in the source of all things, then the possibilities are infinite.
   
   And some people do not know how to pray. If they "believe" in God, but remain fearful when they "pray," they will receive the object of that fear -- prolonged illness or death. But if they feel perfect peace and confidence when they ask God for a healthy body, the potential of which is vibrating within them, they will receive health -- and disease doesn't stand a chance.

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      jlparkposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for this thought provoking answer.

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   manatita44posted 11 years ago

   No one would deny that nurses and doctors work really hard. In my experience, gratitude is very small, if any. So I am not sure that we should be looking for this. "Peace begins when expectation ends" -Sri Chinmoy.
   
   The other thing is that it seems obvious that you feel that you are doing all the work. I am writing with love here, but this is what in Yoga we call 'body consciousness'. The 'I' and 'my' is very strong in human life. If we can see ourselves as the Soul or an instrument in the hands of Something Higher, then this body conscious is minimised, and we will stop looking for rewards. Expectations always bring suffering, as humans will not behave in the way we wish them to.
   "Do not try to change the world, you will fail.
   Try to love the world, lo, the world is changed, changed forever." -Sri Chinmoy.
   
   Finally, in my experience, it is usually the other way around. Doctors take the credit or patients and relatives give them the credit in the majority of cases. Still, I see so many cases where the individual is given two days, six months, etc to live, and somehow it did not happen and they are still alive.
   
   Human beings are merely instruments. It is the Higher Light operating in and through us, that does the work. Let us give praise or adoration.

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      jlparkposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your answer!

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   arksysposted 11 years ago

   god gave the nurse / doctor the ability to learn how to tend to patients and then gave them the opportunity to work in their field of study and to help people.
   
   the injured person was given the opportunity to go to such a place and receive treatment...
   
   the doctors and nurses are the means or route through which the person gets better and that route is provided by god.
   
   the injured person should thank both God and the doctor/nurse who attended to him/her.

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      jlparkposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Now I don't have to put my answe! Whilst I'm Agnostic - for those who are relgious, this one makes the most sense to me.
      Thank you for your answer!

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      arksysposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      

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   ZungTranposted 11 years ago

   I think there's a due answer for the other side of the coin alongside some good and informative answers in this thread.
   
   Sometimes doctors, nurses and care takers are not given enough credit for what they've done. Controversial case of North Korean eyesight cure being credited to the NK leaders instead of the surgeons that performed the surgery. Draw a parallel here and nothing has changed. Some religions downright deny the help of the medical world. Case in hand with Bob Marley - instead of following doctor's advice, he rejected it due to religious belief, which eventually caused his untimely death.
   
   Doctors and all those who participated in the process of healing the patient should be given all the credits they deserve - doctors, nurses, family and friends, hospital admin people, 911 operators, ambulance driver, the people who invented all those resuscitation machines & medicine and so on. Those are the people who we should really be thankful of.
   I'm being the "devil's advocate" here, no pun intended.

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   JThomp42posted 11 years ago

   God created the doctors and nurses and gave them the ability to learn such a vast knowledge to perform in their profession. Yes, doctors and nurses definitely deserve credit for their hard work even to achieve their degrees. God also deserves credit for giving them this knowledge.

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   SidKempposted 11 years ago

   I do give a lot of credit to doctors and nurses, and to anyone else who's acts benefit the sick.
   
   But no body every healed due solely to the work of a doctor or nurse. The body is not a machine, but a living organism, capable of healing itself. And that life-energy and self-healing intelligence (whether we call it God, or by some other name) is worthy of appreciation, as well.
   
   And the many case I know of incurable illnesses being healed - cases where doctors and nurses could not help - there, too, credit to the healing power of Life itself.
   
   If my car broke down, and then got up and running again. I would be grateful to the mechanic. I would also be grateful to the designer and builder of the car, for they made a machine that could be repaired. And I would be grateful to the power inherent in gasoline, as well.
   
   In Aristotelian terms, the actions of doctors and nurses can often be the proximate causes of healing, but they are never the sole causes.
   
   Let us give credit - and gratitude - to all.

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   peeplesposted 11 years ago

   This is something that annoys me. Many believers say that God gave them the ability or they wouldn't exist if it weren't for the God. When in actuality the parents gave them the ability in one way or another. First by creating them, then by bringing them up in a way (not always good) that sends them on their course for life. Even if I believed in God I don't see any reason to ever give credit away to a God, who for the most part (if real) produced people and then abandoned them to their own "free will". So if God does not stop "free will" there is no ability to have any say in what profession someone chooses to be in.
   If anything the parents (or caregiver) and the school who taught the doctor should be credited.

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      Larry Wallposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Parents and caregiver deserve credit for the support they gave and the schools played a vital role. However, God gave the person the ability to learn and the desire to help. God gives gifts. Some have the gift of healing. I did not get that gift.

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   Crissyliteposted 11 years ago

   I am so grateful for doctors and nurses. I have a lot of respect for them. I have received great medical treatment in the past. I have also experienced a miracle in which the doctors couldn't explain.
   
   My thoughts have always been that the medical world gets their wisdom and ability from God, whether or not the credit is given.
   
   When I had medical treatment, I always prayed that God would be their wisdom and guide their hands. I don't believe in rejecting medical treatment, though I do prefer going to a natural specialist first.

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    Larry Wallposted 11 years ago

    I have had more surgeries than I care to list. One was an emergency surgery. When I went for a post-op checkup, I finally got the chance to thank the doctor. He said not to thank him, because I should had died. He said someone was not through with me on this earth while looking upward. I have yet to figure out that purpose and I may never realize what it is I am suppose to do. However, while the doctor will not take credit, I know it was the skills that God enable him to learn and it was God guiding his hands and the scalpel.
    
    To throw in one more comment, during that same hospital stay I had a temporary nurse (she worked for an agency and filled in when needed) who was probably an excellent nurse, but she was on the wrong floor and was not the nurse I needed. I had a pretty terrible night. The next day I had a different nurse, young, first day going solo. She knew what had happened, she saw to it that I was not disturbed, game me my pain meds and let me get some sleep. It was a turning point in my recovery. That nurse was being guided by an Angle. Do not try to convince me otherwise. I was there and I am here today because of what those doctors and nurses, with God's help did.

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    Lady_Eposted 11 years ago

    God gave all the knowledge and Wisdom we have in this world. If God didn't wake up a Doctor safely, he wouldn't be around to perform the operation anyway.
    
    In my opinion - God works through Medical people and indeed He should get the credit.

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    LoisRyan13903posted 11 years ago

    That is why God puts people on this world when he does-why they were born when they did.  But for that I really can't give any further answers because the other Christians answered for me.

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