What is important religion or soul?

Soul is your energy.

Soul is your inner energy.In meditation you feel yourself fully alive although you cannot feel you body.There is even racing through the tunnels of your mind-this is your inner energy or soul.You are correct its not a sperate self and neither is god-this is our ego talking,its a way of speach trying to get it across.This is why many masters have gone into silence.

You cannot see your soul like you cannot see your inner organs.It is beyond any tangible proof.

I understand what you're saying, I think. For me, the idea that there is a PART of us that is "One" with Nature/Universe/God (NUG ... my own personal acronym) is inaccurate.

There is no part of me that is seperated from NUG. All of me is connected to NUG. I am a product of NUG. I am a piece of NUG. When I die, I will be spread throughout NUG.

In this personal perception of the physical, earthly ethereal, there is no soul, only me, a Soul Man ...... and there, ladies and gentlemen, I do believe I have just labeled myself as a soul song ... told you I liked soul music ... didn't know I could define myself as one's title though.

So we can live without a soul?  Confussing sentance... 

You never can lose your soul.That is not possible.

I like it! I wonder how a soul does itself in? You can't hang, shoot, slice or poison a soul. Souls can't jump off bridges or buildings or drive their cars into bridges, large trees or buildings. Poor souls.

I firmly believe I am without a soul. I don't think mine committed suicide though. I think it's in the Keys ... captaining a deep sea fishing vessel.

This I agree with.

Yes but it goes down to cosmic energy.The science of life mainly concerns our souls merging with the supersoul.Till you dont come across it ,it is just a word.This energy we tap from food goes into-comes from the energy of the sun.There are people who live without eating food and tap their energy from the sun or from the land.There are sages who claim to grow their hair ten times faster than a normal human and say they tap into cosmic energy with their hair that is why they do not cut their hair as they feel it will reduce their power.Sai Baba would supposedly come out of his cave once in a few weeks and chew on some leaves saying it gave him enough energy.Martial arts and meditation also give you cosmic energy.

Life is both physical and spiritual,
Meditation and Martial Arts end result is enlightenment.Martial arts is a dynamic meditation like dancing which consists mainly of yogic postures,it incorporates self defence as a intelligent way to live life.One must be able to defend himself and keep the body healthy and thus the mind.The reason you see so many hands on an Indian idol of god.It symbolises the aspects one needs to master to become whole.One hand will show a weapon-showing that this god is well versed in the art of self defense.

As far as not eating food for years many have been documented.Try to understand they are not called sages for nothing.I know peoeple who came accross a woman sage in the himalayas.She is very nice and feeds all who pass by with soup.She wears a thin kurta and says cold is in your mind.the place gets iced up for six months of the year and no one can walk the path at this time.She says she goes into a trance in meditation for months during that time and does not eat.

About growing their hair ,this I have read in different sages autobiographies.You cannot document the hair tapping into cosmic energy.The story of Samson and Delila,Samson had his power his strenght in his hair.

Ok sorry good bye

heheh ... I profess to being a book geek, if that helps.

As much as I have tried through the years, to comprehend, to understand the need to "prove" the existence of something spiritual like the soul...the only thing I have come up with is...that it completes the circle of the serpent eating its tail. There is no continuation of Life on the planet without a reverence and humbleness for faith in the unknown and the power thereof.

Get this...It is what makes us whole and complete as a Human !!!

Your question stems from logic in an iloggical world.Ex.What sense does it make that this huge ball of fire thousand of miles away (the sun) is seen in the east then dissapears in the west.What the hell is it in the first place and why is it there?What am I doing on this planet?Why is this planet rotating with such ridiculous speed?Why does it revolve around the sun?What is Jupiter?Why do we need water or food,Why do we die?What happens to me when i die?Why do i sleep ?Why do I wake up?Where did this person go when he died?Why do we breath?What are dreams,where do they come from?

There are two ways you can look at life-
1-I am very alive and intelligent and this universe is pretty dead and stupid and just hapens to be there.
b- I am alive and intelligent but nothing compared to the aliveness,the intelligence of this universe.
Poet Mohit.K.Misra

I do not feel empty. I do not need this belief to "get me through my day."

All the things you speak of are available without needing to believe that there is something after death. And are certainly available without religion. Yours or anyone else's.

I accept that this is my one and only life as we understand life. And I enjoy it accordingly. Everything else; this quest to answer the unanswerable, means nothing. I listen to your and other's interpretations and the idea that there are "souls" trapped in a kind of limbo that can be released by living people praying for them and it just makes no sense to me.

I understand it gets you through the day, in which case it serves a purpose, but that is all religion has ever done. Persuade people to accept their lot and believe that it will be better after death.

I feel a very strong connection to the other life around me. And even feel a strong connection to those that have died whom I had a strong connection with when they were alive. But - I do not need to believe this sort of thing to feel complete.

I am happy and contented with this connection. It makes me feel a part of something bigger than myself. But - a very small part....

I sincerely do not understand what searching for answers, having feelings and thoughts and loving others has to do with a soul ... I do all these, and I do them with my head. Sometimes people use the expression, "I feel it in my heart." Never do we actually feel emotions in our hearts. There may be a tightening of the muscles in the torso, but never does it cause a person's heart to hurt.

For me, the way we speak of the heart is equivalent to the soul. It's literally all in our heads.

Why have you shown these links,What I have said, this is common knowledge surprised you did not know.I am half Hindu and half Parsee at least for me and peopel like me its common.
Poet Mohit.K.Misra

I don't pretend to be a big scholar, but have read widely over the years. If my memory serves me, the soul i.e. psyche, was pondered, written about and deeply contemplated by the ancient philosophers such as Plato and Aristotle, the more modern Freud and Jung and of course Thoreau talked about how his soul soared in connection with the beauty and wonders of nature.

Even now, the last time I had an appointment with a psychologist, she said the soul is "used" and accepted as a concept of therapy.

I have come to term soul as synonymous with my psychology, my feelings. The spiritual path that I am following enlightens my soul, illumines my awareness of self as soul (spirit)

I agree that it can be best to separate spirituality from religion. But it doesn't always  happen. For me, I have learned, pretty well, I think, to not let dogma of religions get in the way of spirituality. In fact, structures of particular religions have helped me tremendously on my path, and to look beyond the diversity and confusion and find Truth in all religions.

I really believe we all know the Truth, its just  our humanity and the ego thereof, that can cause problems.

No confusion here, infact best of both the worlds, an openess to knowledge without letting the ego interfere,my religion is better than yours.Also coming from a family of priests and pandits I am able to grasp things fast what a normal human like you cannot.Like I said when you havent come across your soul or supersoul it becomes just a myth.Its normal human nature to ridicule what you dont understand and supposedly move on in life.It takes courage,patience , intelligence and contemplation to stop and think-why is this person saying such a thing-why?
Why do all the Prophets the masters, sages talk about this soul and supersoul?

Poet Mohit.K.Misra

I know. At least other people can read the articles if they're interested and know that what mohit is saying is inaccurate.

Yes, exactly, but after this post I have said all I wish to say on the subject.

Honestly I believe mohit is happy with his beliefs and passionate about them, which is great. Just don't call those beliefs the Dharma, because they are clearly not.

They are definitely based in the Yogic Vedas and Hinduism, which is a perfectly valid path to enlightenment, it's just not the Buddhist path to enlightenment.

I believe mohit should continue to preach what he knows and has a proper understanding of, rather than trying to preach a philosophy that he doesn't have a proper grasp of. He would be more effective that way and his message on spirituality clearer.

IMHO

hahaahahhah you are a poor loser.

You are talking about a fool incase you forget I am one of the highest ranked poets and philosophers.The highest Indian.
Look not for recognition
But follow the awakened
And set yourself free.
This is for you,I already have recognition.

Yes the soul is an individual entity,and the supersoul is all of our souls together,god,One.
Time doesnt exist with god,in a timeless state there is no question of getting old.

lol,  guess I didn't know any other way to put it, of course they still have a soul, but how can you use up the magic in your soul if you don't know you have one. 

Samadhi is enlightenment there is no difference,different words symbolising the same like Buddha and Shiva.You mentioned my brother Patanjalis book,letting you know.
Recommended top 100 religon and spirituality-ebookmall
44.Ponder Awhile by Mohit.K.Misra
99.The Yoga Sutras By: Pantajali

Buddha is Indian comes from the land of Indus,Industan,Hindustan,hindu,a Hindu.It is the same philosophy.
Poet Mohit.K.Misra

amazing! I totally missed that any form of Buddhism didn't believe in the concept of the soul. But I think the second link (kukumelu) gave an understanding at the end of the segment that I can understand and accept as I understand things at this point in time.

Swami Vivekananda sums up the the notion of God and the notion of the Soul in the last paragraph
"...Buddhists deny that there is any soul in man and that there is no God...Hindus believe there is the permanent Atman of the self and the permanent Brahman in nature..." clearly different definitions.
But Swami also said "The Lord Buddha is my ishta-My God. He preached no theory about Godhead-He was Himself God. I fully believe it."
The author said "...while the two share many of the same ideas and visions, however, they are different and represent different ideals. One is an ideal of perfect self, one of perfect self-lessness. These are opposing ends, even if their approaches are similar."

This takes me to my understanding of 'each individual being a drop in the ocean of God'.

Without one the other could not exist in matter form. and since God, to me, is Father/Mother, Father being the Source/Energy, Mother being the manifestation of matter that come from that Energy...you can't have one without the other in this plane of existence...the Soul represents the Son/Daughter, the middle, the creation of both; with purpose for being, to allow God to experience more of Him/Her Self.

The soul is our feelings, our emotions our mind and heart as an individual that is "a drop" of God. Because that is what we experience here in this plane of matter, yes suffering ensues because people get lost and confused about who they are. You can't have one state of consciousness with out the other...they work together gradually toward  the ultimate acceptance of understanding the One..how we are "that drop".

The saints of Christianity, if you study their lives, are saying the same thing about becoming one with the Mind of Jesus the Christ. Buddhists are saying the same thing about being selfless, Hindus are saying the same thing about the Atman, a portion of self that is not separate.

I would further state to define that there is in a way two aspects of soul.
There is Soul, which is the True Pure Whole aspect of the individual, Atman
AND  there is the soul which is the human portion that has varying degrees of confusion/belief in being connected to God Source.

The goal is to ultimately get these two together, heal soul confusion, etc  so that it recognizes self and Soul Self...a Drop in the Ocean...this relates only to these matter form planes of existence where the soul has not realized the fullness of Soul as self.

Even though I can relate the concept, I don't have it (the awareness) fully all of the time...or a guess I wouldn't have a need to be here.

hahhaha come to India you will experience it here,power goes of very often,on thurdays for a few hours of the day

Gracias angel

why does that bother me? Is it  lack of humility, inordinate pride, pompous expectation (of the rich)? I wonder what culture he grew up in? Is he a product of female creation, a spoiled brat...or a product in spite of female attempts to create a healthy, humble male ego? Or am I totally misconstruing it all? After all I do have "male" issues ?

It will soon be #124,688,987,655,984,377 of 1,677,888,999,876,888,985,377 in the ebook bestsellers list of substandard subcontinent poor religious poetry. Ranked by friends with a vested interest. That is pretty good I think Enlightened even

SJ - We all have "male" issues. This is something else lol

I do not want to fight with you or anyone,a healthy debate where we can both share knowledge is what I would appreciate.I find this most in Sandra we share and both grow.
And I put my rankings to tell you look I have been acknowledged I am not just talking rubbish for the sake of it.
People here have been very abusive and not nice.

gamergirl, I think you are wasting your breath.

If ever there was someone who is not interested in listening to good advice when it is given, it is the third worst poet in the universe.

I have given up speaking to him, although, if he continues to clutter up the forums by quoting himself and dropping links to his third-rate poetry, I will start complaining about him and do my best to get him deleted

He doesn't get the fact that no one here is impressed by his rankings lol

And clearly doesn't get the fact that this is not the way an "enlightened" person behaves.

I challenge you to write a book and get ranked in the top 100 forget as high as I am  ranked

lol I will take your challenge as it seems the ego-less one is too busy proclaiming his fantasticness to respond.

And I can't resist

There once was a third-rate poet,
who was given good advice but didn't know it.
He annoyed everyone at hubpages,
claiming to be one of the sages,
the third rate poet, of course, was mohit.

Not sure that follows all the rules as I remember them?

I was giving answers to questions some of you couldnt understand and your ego couldnt handle it,its not my fault.

You have a big ego issue.

Your turn

Yes  a lot of masters have been against religion as man misuses it for his own requirements and ugly wars have been created because of this.Yet religion is the teachings of the enlightened ones ,the masters and is good.It is man who is to blame and not religion.There is basically no difference between any religion as all boil down to meditation and finding god.
Poet Mohit.K.Misra

Good one, Jenny!