Do you believe in the 6 day Creation as described In the Bible or Evolution and the big bang theory?
I have exciting news for those who answer this question regardless of the position you take. Streaming live on the web from the Creation Museum is the great debate between Bill Nye, aka the science guy, and defender of the Creation, Ken Ham. It takes place at 7pm for my area NE Pa). Please consult the website for time in your locality. If you have ever questioned where we come from and why we exist, this is something you don't want to miss!
What I don't understand is why they fight, about who is right and who is wrong. The truth, is they may both be right. We don't know what Adam and Eve looked like, we also don't know what a day to God would be. The water was here before God created land and maybe God had living creatures from the water adapt to land. Adam and Eve could have been apes. Really what holds us back is us because science is a tool to understand the world and the Bible is a way of living. I believe in both science and religion, as a Christian.
The 6 day Creation story is just that, a wonderful mythological story, and has a place in the collective imagination. Evolution is a theory, based on observation, research and evidence over many decades. Darwin and others pioneered the way forward - the Big Bang cosmologists are looking for the origins of that singular event - I personally think that all the evidence found - from fossils to ancient bones, from the study of animal behaviour to cosmological studies, suggest that we as humans belong to the evolutionary chain, and co-exist alongside other creatures on a planet that is itself evolving. Life began somehow in a chaotic bio-electrical soup, rather wonderful to think about.
There should be room enough in the human mind for both to sit happily together side by side. Existence is a combination of the imagined and the factual.
I believe in the 6 day Creation because the Bible says this is how it is and it hasn't steered me wrong, yet.
Both are true, and not in opposition (unless you ascribe to static categories). To God, a day is a thousand years, and a thousand years is a day. The argument you cite is pure illusion.
I am not sure if our interpretation of 6 days is correct from the the Bible but yes The bible is better to believe. I think who believe in big bang are also big bang but there is hope for all
Both! I believe in Creation and Evolution. God is that smart.
Nye is a TV personality who understands a little science. Ham is a biblical literalist who is being arrogant and lazy, because that's what literalists do. I was born a literalists (Southern Baptist), but by age 9, I knew it wasn't right for me.
God is far more powerful and intelligent than Ken Ham gives Him credit for being. God created evolution and it works beautifully.
Ham misinterprets the Bible by thinking that death was created in the Garden. He's confusing spiritual death with physical death. The Bible is not to be taken entirely literally. There are too many things hidden within it. 2 Cor. 3:6 warns us against the letter (literal), for only the spirit of scripture will lead to everlasting life.
The universe is billions of years old. Just look at pictures of galaxies in collision for proof of this.
It's all and everything. They all exist. Now I am going to throw something out here that just will make you go hmmmm. If the creators were aliens of another race on another planet then it would depend on how far way they were to have to come here and make a planet. Mayan said it was the Plaideans. How many "light" years away are they. How many trips they had to make to put things into place. Then there are the Sumerians that are mention in the Roman bible that is used today. Where did they come from and how long was a day to them from their planet to ours.
As far as evolution.....every plant, animals and reptile evolves. They have to because that is the survival of the fittest and each one is constantly changing to better itself. I think it was made that way for a reason.
The Big Bang...sure thing that this exists too. They did a study on atoms and what they found was that if a few where in close proximity of any others then they gravitated towards each other. When they hit---BANG!
So six years our rotation around the sun or six "light" years. Not everything has the same lifespan nor do they have the same metabolism.
This issue pops up often as a stumbling block: 6 days? The word used for "day" is "yom" which can be translated as "day, age, epoch". We do much the same in English when we say, King Arthur's day" or "…in David's day".
I remind you, the Almighty does not wear a wristwatch; He stands outside of time. This might better be expressed as 6 phases or steps.
We conveniently describe a day in terms of one rotation of the Earth on its axis. When you think of it, that's a bit limiting.
Briefly, the translation isn't incorrect if you read it in cultural context. The danger in taking these issues too literally without digging a bit deeper in study is the very real likelihood of being misled. We're reading an ancient document with a 21st Century thought process that seeks to quantify, that wants exactitude. Not to overstate, but in Moses' day (he transcribed the first five books of Scripture), that was not the priority nor the intent. Good question!
Yes I believe in the 6 Day Creation. But how long is a day? Was it a 24 hour day that we know or was it something longer. As Lee mentions God's day may be different from our day.
LoisRyan13903, That's one of the problems many people have with the bible. Some things are said to be literal and others are not! When Jesus fasted for 40 days was it a 24 hour day? When it rained for 40 days was it a 24 hour day? No continuity.
I believe those were literal days but how long was a literal day back then? When was the 24 hour day invented?
In the end faith is simply believing. It becomes a slippery slope when one attempts to either explain, defend, or justify their beliefs. One should be able to say; "In my heart I just believe it." and leave it at that. Faith often defies logic.
It is difficult for many people to read the Bible and not think of it in literal terms. We try to understand it in terms familiar to us. As humans, we need to realize our understanding of God and the spiritual world is limited.
What we think of as six days, could translate to six hundred thousand years in the spiritual world. Since all we know is the world around us, it may seem confusing.
There is a huge difference between our world and the spiritual world. The laws of science that apply here, do not apply in the spiritual world.
When reading the Bible, or quoting the Bible, you have to remember this to keep things in perspective.
"In order to properly translate words written by men, you must be open to the idea that these men were simply writing what a disembodied voice told them to write and somehow those anecdotal translations can be taken as literal so long as they don't make the religion look bad."
^That is my understanding of what was just said. Whenever I hear things like this I just look to other countries that still practice religion in its literal forms.
If religious people simply said, "Screw your feelings, we should all worship, or not, in utter privacy and silence," I'd be much more accepting of religious mysticism; heck, I might even start promoting religion myself under those circumstances. But when you try to defend things as being empirical while also saying that you have to translate them through the byzantine conduits of human misinterpretation, you're basically just calling it total nonsense.
Religion is an art, organized religion is a manipulative art, and both forms are purely subjective, individualized, and so open to interpretation that any wannabe con artist could study them and gain a following of the misguided. Fortunately, though, mainstream religion has pretty much locked down the market and it is rare a rogue sect crops itself up successfully in the long-term.
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