Cut off ears and noses!
No, we need to educate the fundamentalists.
As long as religion offers itself in any form as an explanation of life's meaning we as people are in dire straights.
All people have the capacity for evil this is not dependant on any belief system.
The problem is that all major religions psychologically have the "devil in the corner" an other than self escape from personal responsibility. This is where indoctrination and hate can be acted out with impunity.
A sound grasp of brain chemistry and psychology exposes this and no religionist wants to take on even the little that is scientifically known about the sub-conscious, what comes into consciousness or why. Happiness, love, trust, forgivness, ecstasy, charity are half the human equasion. There are good known reasons for the other half and better reasons for most to avoid it.
I know myself to be the axe murderer, the heartless, the hate filled as well. I have consciousness of it, have for a long time so I will never be hate filled, or heartless or even hurt a fly!
My love of life comes from being truly alive, not hiding fearfully behind being "all good"
I say with confidence that we are all the same, good and bad, but not knowing that allows for the acting out of that which we scream about in others.
A psychologist friend of mine said jokingly some time back, that if you could lock up those who are clambering for the blood of someone accused of a crime, you could drop the crime rate by 50% he was referring to the sub-conscious self hate felt by those who had not seen the criminal in themselves. I'll go with that for now thanks.Forget about what "people think" The beliefs are full of hate and loathing, even if some do not act out of that hate, it is in the very books that espouse these beliefs, therefore not a good starting point.
As for understanding and tolerance. If you are asking me to be tolerant of a belief system that would have me dead because I do not believe it, I think that is reasonable grounds for opposition!Doesn't your faith come from the bible?
- cosetteposted 14 years ago
0i was afraid to look...
Does that mean that if you found solid empirical proof that it was in fact just your response to the problem of religiosity and all an illusion built as a device by your subconscious you would still believe it?
Well for me, without scientific method we have a void. I do not fill that void, nor feel the need to. I cannot apply scientific method to religion as it is not offered as fallible, so it no longer has any validity for me past that point.
Psychology on the other hand explains religion as it does other systems of thought.
I think he may be gone PB, I still wonder about the amount of time spent learning all this religious stuff. I know enough to see that many religionists are well versed in the tomes, but with so many changes, so many books included and left out, so much confusion amongst believers as to what "the truth" is, it astounds me that anyone could say. "OK, I read it or was taught it and it means exactly this and I will now devote my life to it as I now, out of thousands of possibilities am absolutely right."
It also beggars belief that anyone could believe any of the bible when it is so psychotic in it's depiction of a god. Such a god, needy of worship, threatening death to the disobedient or non follower, ordering the murder of men women and infants, slaughtering whole races of people, causing the earth to have floods and all natural disasters sounds like what it is .... ballderdash!
This bronze aged thinking will not go away easily. Indoctrination is a very effective tool.
Fortunately science is reaching a point where theories are melding as they do in science and we are pretty close to knowing one hell of a lot more about life and death.
2 Australian scientists discovered the cause of death at a cellular level and have opened the door to longevity. The next 5 years of this study are under way. Lawrence Krauss has explained the latest in scientific knowledge of our universe including some bold statements about religion. (Like all real scientists, he was not interested in disproving religion until attacked by the usual loons.) His retaliation is also a good watch. There is plenty known about life, and plenty more to learn, but I ain't listenin to no psychotic invisible tooth fairy! Unless of course there was even one item of proof in the last 2000 years!I think it's amazing and wonderful that He has found us fit and ready for further scientific knowledge. In so doing He has put in place the events leading up to certain scientists discovering new things to learn.
Thanks for sharing that with us about those scientists.
- B.C. BOUTIQUEposted 14 years ago0
Yeh, the truth does that sometimes.
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