Cut off ears and noses!

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  1. christopherchance profile image61
    christopherchanceposted 13 years ago

    They should carry this sentence out and televise it so we can see what Islamic law is about.
    Also, I think they deserve it. (Must be my darker side... you know, 'eye for an eye'. Especially if they let the girl use the scalpel.
    Have a look:

    1. muslima61 profile image70
      muslima61posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Here we go again.... anti-islamist.... view of our way of life...

      The initial brutal attack on the young woman by these men was not instigated by Islam or any other religion, but by there own malicious evil thoughts... jealousy...... how can you condemn a nation by the acts of a handful of evil people.... again Islam comes under fire.

      what would you have the courts do with them..... slap their wrist say naughty naughty now off you go and do it again... like they do here !!!!!
      what if that was your sister, mother or daughter would you allow the courts to fine them or would you want a fitting punishment... they will not do it again !!!

      check the newspapers in the western world you will see atrocities committed by all nationalities and faiths ....

      please check your facts fully before you pick on muslims

      1. de'Arab profile image54
        de'Arabposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        hey muslima61, Christopher does not seem anti-Islamic to me. Why are you defensive?

      2. profile image55
        (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Ah, as one of resident Islamic propagandists here, it would make sense you never even read the article as you would have run across this little gem - the bold is mine:

        "Sentence was passed on Monday under a rarely invoked Islamic law dating from the 1980s.:

        Sorry, but the insanity of Islam and it's so-called "justice" went out with medieval torture and the Inquisition.

        Look in the dictionary under the word, "fact" before spouting your propaganda nonsense.

      3. vox vocis profile image82
        vox vocisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        To muslima61: Our sisters, mothers and daughters aren't sold for marriage and guys who do the kidnapping in the western countries go to prison!

      4. Womble profile image60
        Wombleposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Please do not misunderstand me - I am not antimuslim, I believe in live and let live but whichever country muslims have chosen adopt to live in, should endeavour to abide by the rules of the country they reside in. Yes I know that minor and major criminals may well put two fingers in the air in this country but we do not conform to the Islamic law in this country because we have our own according to the country we were born and live in.   Hence whatever you may do in your country, irrespective of our private feelings of revulsion, is your business, likewise we expect you to try to conform to our civil laws, likewise, whatever your private feelings might be. There is an expression you may have heard of, 'when in Rome, you do as the Romans do.

    2. IzzyM profile image87
      IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thank God at long last they are not seeing women as second class citizens! That is disgusting what these men did; Hell mend them!

    3. pintails7886 profile image68
      pintails7886posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      this isnt Islamic law, this is the act of a government not a religion. And if you think this is bad, why dont you check out some of the things christian nations do to prisoners, not pretty stuff,

    4. Rossimobis profile image74
      Rossimobisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      As a matter of fact,it is been long but i got here today..AN EYE FOR AN EYE.

  2. Ivorwen profile image66
    Ivorwenposted 13 years ago

    That is absolutely horrible!  That poor girl.  I can understand feeling rejected, but to disfigure someone because they won't marry you is insane!

  3. earnestshub profile image81
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    The motive comes from religion.

    1. Freya Cesare profile image79
      Freya Cesareposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      What is that supposed to be mean?

    2. profile image51
      paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend

      Please quote from Quran for the motive; Quran is the first and foremost source of guidance for the Muslims whatever their denomination. While quoting please give five preceding and five fllowing verses for the usual short context.


      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  4. Alessia Amnesia profile image61
    Alessia Amnesiaposted 13 years ago

    That poor girl... I wouldn't stop at just cutting those men's ears and noses off, I'd be taking a scalpel to their knob as well.

  5. profile image50
    The Paulposted 13 years ago

    My initial emotion reaction, upon reading the story, makes it hard to disagree with the sentence.

  6. tantrum profile image60
    tantrumposted 13 years ago

    Blame it on Hollywood
    People believe in silver screens

  7. de'Arab profile image54
    de'Arabposted 13 years ago

    Islamic justice is fair;" an eye for an eye".

    1. Hokey profile image61
      Hokeyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You are NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      1. profile image0
        lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I agree.

  8. earnestshub profile image81
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    From the Quoran.... very similar to the Torah, barbaric and gobsmackingly inhumane!

  9. goldenpath profile image67
    goldenpathposted 13 years ago

    My heart goes out to this young lady.  It is sad that people have to exercise their agency to satisfy their hatred.  I don't blame religion but them - themselves.  They chose a wrong path.  In this case I hope they contemplate their loathing nature as they sit and rot in a disfigured state as they have suffered that young lady.  It is sad.  However, we cannot judge an entire people or faith for the acts of a few.  This only self serves those who have a "trip" against faiths or nations.  We need to stop, and master self emotion.

    1. earnestshub profile image81
      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No, we need to educate the fundamentalists. smile

      1. goldenpath profile image67
        goldenpathposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        True, but we need to work together in the cause of human rights instead of going back to the Dark Ages and burning people and faiths at the stake.  We have discussed tolerance and understanding on another forum just a few hours ago.  Unfortuneately no one listens when the wall is up constantly.

        1. earnestshub profile image81
          earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          As long as religion offers itself in any form as an explanation of life's meaning we as people are in dire straights.
          All people have the capacity for evil this is not dependant on any belief system.
          The problem is that all major religions psychologically have the "devil in the corner" an other than self escape from personal responsibility. This is where indoctrination and hate can be acted out with impunity.
          A sound grasp of brain chemistry and psychology exposes this and no religionist wants to take on even the little that is scientifically known about the sub-conscious, what comes into consciousness or why. Happiness, love, trust, forgivness, ecstasy, charity are half the human equasion. There are good known reasons for the other half and better reasons for most to avoid it.

          I know myself to be the axe murderer, the heartless, the hate filled as well. I have consciousness of it, have for a long time so I will never be hate filled, or heartless or even hurt a fly!
          My love of life comes from being truly alive, not hiding fearfully behind being "all good"
          I say with confidence that we are all the same, good and bad, but not knowing that allows for the acting out of that which we scream about in others.
          A psychologist friend of mine said jokingly some time back, that if you could lock up those who are clambering for the blood of someone accused of a crime, you could drop the crime rate by 50% he was referring to the sub-conscious self hate felt by those who had not seen the criminal in themselves. I'll go with that for now thanks. smile

          1. goldenpath profile image67
            goldenpathposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I've no doubt you have love in your heart.  You've told me.  If so, then do more in showing love in the world than hammering the views of the few on the forums.  In your posts talk about the good things you see in the world.  Advocate the "consciousness" you constantly attribute, to all the good in the world, in your posts and hubs.  Find joy in this and not in the inhibition of others. 

            I will not speak for other faiths.  However, mine is all about personal responsibility and I have gone in depth with you on this before several times.  It would serve no purpose in explaining it again.  We are not dependent upon our faith but are dependent upon our agency in life to choose right and wrong.

            Portraying those of us of faith as war mongerers, sick and demented is not a suitable path to teaching people what you believe.  Especially for someone like you who, obviously, loves life and family.  To clump all "Christians" or "Muslims" or or any group together in one neat little package is inherently flawed and shows little "faith" or belief in people, themselves, to eventually find their way in life.

            Come on.  I accept your beliefs for what they are and don't put them down.  Show the same courtesy, please, and lift your own "consciousness" or spirit to a new height of tolerance and understanding.

            1. earnestshub profile image81
              earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Forget about what "people think" The beliefs are full of hate and loathing, even if some do not act out of that hate, it is in the very books that espouse these beliefs, therefore not a good starting point.
              As for understanding and tolerance. If you are asking me to be tolerant of a belief system that would have me dead because I do not believe it, I think that is reasonable grounds for opposition! smile

              1. goldenpath profile image67
                goldenpathposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Nope, no good.  My faith does not want you dead therefore don't lump me in with that group.  Therefore, why show me opposition and why not tolerance?

                1. earnestshub profile image81
                  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Doesn't your faith come from the bible? smile

                  1. goldenpath profile image67
                    goldenpathposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                    It is based upon the Bible, Book of Mormon, other sacred texts and modern revelation.  They all work in concert and complement one another.  I am not afraid to say it.  I challenge anyone who says our faith wishes death upon anyone.

  10. profile image0
    cosetteposted 13 years ago

    i was afraid to look...sad

  11. earnestshub profile image81
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Does that mean that if you found solid empirical proof that it was in fact just your response to the problem of religiosity and all an illusion built as a device by your subconscious you would still believe it? smile

    1. goldenpath profile image67
      goldenpathposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, I would still believe because man's understanding of proof, on many levels, is an evolving process.  Evolution, for instance, is evolving.  New things are being discovered all the time.  What one might accept as solid proof today may prove something totally different ten years from now.  Evidence is a perception to many people.  That's why some accept and some don't.  As I see key events unfold and foresee the events to come all things create one eternal round for me.  In other words the questions that have plagued my past have been answered.  That, to me, has been the true personal miracle.  Each of us must find our own personal answers.  I found mine.

      1. earnestshub profile image81
        earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Well for me, without scientific method we have a void. I do not fill that void, nor feel the need to. I cannot apply scientific method to religion as it is not offered as fallible, so it no longer has any validity for me past that point.
        Psychology on the other hand explains religion as it does other systems of thought. smile

  12. Hokey profile image61
    Hokeyposted 13 years ago

    TA DAAA!!!!!!

    Believe nothing merely because you have been told it.
    Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher.
    But whatever, after due examination and analysis,
    you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings -
    that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.

  13. Hokey profile image61
    Hokeyposted 13 years ago

    1. Spend 5 minutes at the beginning of each day remembering
    we all want the same things (to be happy and be loved)
    and we are all connected to one another.

    2. Spend 5 minutes breathing in, cherishing yourself; and, breathing out
    cherishing others. If you think about people you have difficulty cherishing,
    extend your cherishing to them anyway.

    3. During the day extend that attitude to everyone you meet.
    Practice cherishing the "simplest" person (clerks, attendants, etc)
    or people you dislike.

    4. Continue this practice no matter what happens or what anyone does to you.

    These thoughts are very simple, inspiring and helpful.
    The practice of cherishing can be taken very deeply if done wordlessly,
    allowing yourself to feel the love and appreciation that
    already exists in your heart.

    1. Pandoras Box profile image58
      Pandoras Boxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hokey I love you. This post of your's is truly a great suggestion.

  14. Hokey profile image61
    Hokeyposted 13 years ago

    The Paradoxical Commandments (Do It Anyway)

    People are illogical, unreasonable, and self-centered.
    Love them anyway.

    If you do good, people will accuse you of selfish ulterior motives.
    Do good anyway.

    If you are successful, you win false friends and true enemies.
    Succeed anyway.

    The good you do today will be forgotten tomorrow.
    Do good anyway.

    Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable.
    Be honest and frank anyway.

    The biggest men and women with the biggest ideas can be shot down
    by the smallest men and women with the smallest minds.
    Think big anyway.

    People favor underdogs but follow only top dogs.
    Fight for a few underdogs anyway.

    What you spend years building may be destroyed overnight.
    Build anyway.

    People really need help but may attack you if you do help them.
    Help people anyway.

    Give the world the best you have and you'll get kicked in the teeth.
    Give the world the best you have anyway.

  15. earnestshub profile image81
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    I think he may be gone PB, I still wonder about the amount of time spent learning all this religious stuff. I know enough to see that many religionists are well versed in the tomes, but with so many changes, so many books included and left out, so much confusion amongst believers as to what "the truth" is, it astounds me that anyone could say. "OK, I read it or was taught it and it means exactly this and I will now devote my life to it as I now, out of thousands of possibilities am absolutely right."

    It also beggars belief that anyone could believe any of the bible when it is so psychotic in it's depiction of a god. Such a god, needy of worship, threatening death to the disobedient or non follower, ordering the murder of men women and infants, slaughtering whole races of people, causing the earth to have floods and all natural disasters sounds like what it is .... ballderdash!

    This bronze aged thinking will not go away easily. Indoctrination is a very effective tool.
    Fortunately science is reaching a point where theories are melding as they do in science and we are pretty close to knowing one hell of a lot more about life and death.
    2 Australian scientists discovered the cause of death at a cellular level and have opened the door to longevity. The next 5 years of this study are under way. Lawrence Krauss has explained the latest in scientific knowledge of our universe including some bold statements about religion. (Like all real scientists, he was not interested in disproving religion until attacked by the usual loons.) His retaliation is also a good watch. There is plenty known about life, and plenty more to learn, but I ain't listenin to no psychotic invisible tooth fairy! smile Unless of course there was even one item of proof in the last 2000 years!

    1. goldenpath profile image67
      goldenpathposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think it's amazing and wonderful that He has found us fit and ready for further scientific knowledge.  In so doing He has put in place the events leading up to certain scientists discovering new things to learn.

      Thanks for sharing that with us about those scientists. smile

  16. profile image0
    B.C. BOUTIQUEposted 13 years ago

    this makes me too sick to even comment on....

    1. earnestshub profile image81
      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yeh, the truth does that sometimes. smile

  17. Pandoras Box profile image58
    Pandoras Boxposted 13 years ago

    As does the 'Truth'. Pretty sick stuff.

    There is exciting stuff to look forward to, Earnest, and indoctrination is amazingly effective. The fear factor and the comfort factor -in order to give it up they'd have to face a fear AND lose an imaginary best buddy. It's tough.

    Really, super weird though when the con has been completely proven.

  18. topgunjager profile image60
    topgunjagerposted 13 years ago

    ahh, Islam, the religion of criminals, rapists and pedophiles=)

    1. earnestshub profile image81
      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      A lot like christianity really!

  19. blondepoet profile image67
    blondepoetposted 13 years ago

    Omg I am speechless after reading that article. Shocking is putting it mildly.

  20. profile image51
    paarsurreyposted 13 years ago

    Cut off ears and noses!

    Hi friends

    Nobody could quote from Quran the first and foremost source of guidance of Muslims whatever the denomination.

    They mostly quote things from hearsay; very bad


    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim


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