How Can You Worship a God Who Would...

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   Gale Forceposted 13 years ago

   I was brought up in a Christian household, and believed in God until about the age of 10 or so. Then I went to a school that had religious education once a week, and the lesson was about Moses leading his people out of hte wilderness, and some of them are complaining because they're starving to death.
   
   And God gets upset and sends a flock of birds, which are poisoned. The people see the birds, think, "Yah, god has sent us some food," kill the birds, and then die of poisoning, because GOd is punishing them for oomplaining.
   
   And I'm thinking at this point...this god is a psycho. And I'm not going to worship him, ever.
   
   A few years later, I just naturally became an atheist. There is no god.
   
   But I look at all the sorrow and misery that exists in the world now, and has existed for all time, and I wonder, how can someone worship a god that would allow all this. For the sake of a "promise" of eternal salvation?  Pretty vicious.

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      tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

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      C.J. Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You sure you don't have some of the details of this biblical story wrong????

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      Unchained Graceposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Primarily, on whose agenda are we commenting on? Yours or God's?
      Please consider a jigsaw puzzle which generally comes in a box with a picture of the finished product on the front and sometimes 1,000+ pieces inside. Now, understand that with the few pieces we hold in our hands, we have no concept of the finished product nor where those pieces fit in. Why God does what He does is directly relevant to the fact that it is He and not us who is sitting in front of the big picture and therefore sees it all. We don't have anywhere near the spiritual understanding to second guess God nor to base our opinions on the less than bare minimum of questionable "evidence" before us.
      
      Quite often, God will allow one thing to happen in order for something else to occur. One man's loss is another man's gain, so to speak. If the death or injury to one will in fact save fifty, do we criticize God just because we know nothing of the fifty?

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      sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Don't worry, it's not for us to understand. Being an atheist is like being a zero.

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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   ... and the biblical god and the god of the quoran are both totally psychotic!

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   Denno66posted 13 years ago

   Um, there's something called free will, I'm just sayin'......

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      tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Really ?
      and God gave it to Man! Is that so ?
      
      A very sadistic thing to do to his 'creation' after the famous 'fall'
      

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         Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Did I say anything about God? No I did not. I just said free will. Yes, I did, sure indeedily did.

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            tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            So who gives that 'free will' to Man?
            Maybe you don't know, but for Christians, free will is given by God.

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               Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Here's where you're gonna laugh, I'm a Catholic! Me thinks free will comes from me.

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                  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Well, I'm not laughing. Catholics think they have God within them, so it makes sense.
                  and free will is given by God !

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                     Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Well, I'm not going to dispute that, I'm just saying that misery doesn't come from some outside force , it comes from people who do harm to others.

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   noah12posted 13 years ago

   We all coming to this word with believed there is God That is fact And true but some people trying to den yet some for good reason and Some for bad reason now a lots of these story about God is not true you have to look for the truth abut God and the only people You can Trust are the messenger from God because God said I Would not just Fay people with out sending the messenger to them with The truth But some get the truth clear and some get it with a lots fouls story whoever if you look for the truth you will find it
   But you hove look where truth is and when you find it you be So Happy.
   
   Thank you
   Noah12

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      tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      this makes sense ,just like the Bible !

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   Sa Toyaposted 13 years ago

   I choose to believe just like others choose not to!

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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   Time to show gods love again.
   
   "Should people cheat God?  Yet you have cheated me!  "But you ask, 'What do you mean?  When did we ever cheat you?'  "You have cheated me of the tithes and offerings due to me.  You are under a curse, for your whole nation has been cheating me.  Bring all the tithes into the storehouse so there will be enough food in my Temple.  If you do," says the LORD Almighty, "I will open the windows of heaven for you.  I will pour out a blessing so great you won't have enough room to take it in!  Try it!  Let me prove it to you!  Your crops will be abundant, for I will guard them from insects and disease.  Your grapes will not shrivel before they are ripe," says the LORD Almighty.   (Malachi 3:8-11 NLT)
   
   Pay up or cop the consequences!
   
   Mafia god!

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      tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      that's why Mafia families are Christians ! Now I see !!

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         earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Good connection, I did not think of that. So true!

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   docrehabposted 13 years ago

   Well, I think you should take this book and read it all again. You misunderstood it totally...

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      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Would you care to elaborate?

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      tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      What was misunderstood ??

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         Bill Manningposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         That's the whole thing with the bible. Everyone has their own take on what everything means in it. So everyone bends it the way they want it. Therefore nobody is ever going to agree totally with anyone about everything in the bible!
         
         Of course, since I believe the bible is just a cool book some hippie Romans made, it does not matter what's in the bible. 1st, 2nd or 31st edition.

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   Gale Forceposted 13 years ago

   >>>>>>Well, I'm not going to dispute that, I'm just saying that misery doesn't come from some outside force , it comes from people who do harm to others.
   
   Let's forget about people and what they do to each other. Sure, that's all do to free will.
   
   But what else has "God" visited on the people? Diseases like cancer, multiple sclerosis, Lou Gehrig's disease, encephaly (where a baby is born with no brain at all - how obscene is that?).
   
   If God wants to test people and their free will, that's fine. But why add in all these horrible diseases that kill people?
   
   Then there's the animals he created. Mosquitos, nothing but parasites who suck blood and spread malaria everhwhere. What's up wth that? OR the creatures like wasps or spiders that lay eggs inside another creature. When the eggs hatch, they eat their still living host from the inside out - now that I'd call pretty psychotic.
   
   And all this is done by a just and loving god? Seems to me if god gave mankind dominion over every living thing, he wouldn't have put such creatures on the planet to kill gazillions of people, until atheists figured out how to cure the diseases. (I believe it was atheists who did  this, as Christians weren't allowed to practice medicine because everything that happened to someone was God's will?)

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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   Did you learn logic off a cereal packet?

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    Jeramiposted 13 years ago

    Gale Force said...  But what else has "God" visited on the people? Diseases like cancer, multiple sclerosis, Lou Gehrig's disease, encephaly (where a baby is born with no brain at all - how obscene is that?).
       Then there's the animals he created. Mosquitos, nothing but parasites who suck blood and spread malaria everhwhere. What's up wth that? OR the creatures like wasps or spiders that lay eggs inside another creature. When the eggs hatch, they eat their still living host from the inside out - now that I'd call pretty psychotic.
    
       From reading your comment I see that You are putting a lot of blame and anger on someone that you say does not exist.    Is this logic?   What are you "really" angry about?  You don't have to answer this, but you might give this some thought.
       Do you get angry at the UFOs that people talk about that you know does not exist?

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    Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago

    And believers are more like being...a snickers!

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