What causes people to argue instead of engaging in an intelligent discourse regarding religion/
ethics/spirituality as if there is only ONE valid when there are varied correct viewpoints on the subject?
Yea, I don't get that either. In fact, when discussing religion with some people, they act like Christianity is the ONLY religion on the planet or the ONLY "true" religion.
It's like they think Hellman's is the only true mayonaisse, but it isn't! It may be the biggest, with the most followers/customers world wide, but it is definitely not the only mayonaisse on the earth.
So, how can anyone realistically argue a point or issue by looking at the issue from only ONE side?
Some people simply refuse to acknowledge that there are other religions out there. They think their particular brand of religion is the biggest and best and therefore must be the "real" religion.
It's impossible to have a fair and balanced opinion or religion without carefully considering ALL of the religions. And if one does carefully consider all of the information on religion, one will see that there is absolutely no congruity or credibility with any of them!
The reason they act like Christianity is the ONLY religion is because that's what they're taught. It used to be Christians from different denominations couldn't marry! Having studied other religions, I've found they're all after the same thing.
I think if people are already upset with one another this will cause an instant heated conversation. My husband, only has to say the wrong thing at the wrong time for me to jump up on the ceiling! I do eventually come down lol!
In answering that question , I never known people to just settle for imitations , example like Jewelry why would you buy a fake diamond when you poses the ability and means to own a genuine Diamond. True there are many fakes and imitations out there. But there is the real faith. The real treasure that will lead to eternal life.
I will agree that there are many religions and beliefs, and rather people recognize it or not anything or anyone can be and object of worship. It does not even have to be and image. It could be the Idea of what ever you will be willing to die for or live for before anything else in your life is your faith.
This, is very true about mayonnaise there are many .but who invented the first recipe in a bottle or container. Right now you have many companies with their own brand. But the original had those pure ingredients that made it good with out all the additives , and preserves , there are many deities ,
But the real Almighty God stands forever.
Most people can't tell the difference between real and fake diamonds. Can you? And I doubt that we know who really invented Mayo either. Hellman's just bottled it up and made it look pretty. Same with Christianity. No one knows who the first God was.
When you say most people you are correct ! But those that know have the treasure ! Why do they have it ? Because they took in the knowledge to know the difference. Hellman's copied some ones recipe. Many do not want to know ! Many reject him.
Emotions run too high. It's like with politics. People get all revved up and can't resist screaming at each other.
I have often wondered about this. I tend to think most people that enjoy these arguments -those that go out and look for it, try to whip it up in the otherwise mildest of discussions and otherwise browbeat others over the subject- are just looking for a way to to indulge their own arrogance. It has little to do with what belief they hold; they want everyone else to look at them in awe, to think they and they alone hold the keys to the kingdom of knowledge. Tirades and bucolic behavior makes them feel powerful. Most of us see their antics for what they are and sooner or later refrain from "feeding the troll". Not that this has much effect on the arrogant; in their myopic analysis of the world, they will interpret silence merely as admission that they are "right". Entering a discussion about religion and/or the spurning of religion offers these people the perfect vehicle in which to pursue and indulge in their favorite vice, which happens to be strumming their own ego. So they engage with this intention, and if barred or ignored, tell themselves that it was only because they know more than anyone else. And, I think, in some cases the person in question takes sadistic pleasure in the emotional abuse they use in their arguments.
I agree that you speak truth , but you do not hold back saying it, was it because of ego ? Was it because you wanted to be right in all the other comments ? Is it because you know more then any one else ? Your reply also has a meaning . We all talk.
Kiss andTales, I don't know half as much as I wish I did
nobody can interact when comes to religions, they are very filial to their God, insisting their God is the greatest
It is probably because with most of us our identity as to who and what we are is tied very closely to our beliefs. But what is a belief? It is an idea which has been accepted and then reinforced over time to the point it becomes a solidified thought-form. It is almost a 'fixture' in the neural pathways of our brain, I guess. And as we mistakenly believe we ARE our minds, or rather, our thought, we become frightened (or rather our ego or self-image does) when it is threatened with the horrorible concept that we might be wrong.
To be 'wrong' under such circumstances is to take away from us something we regard as precious: our interpretation of the truth. Can you imagine what the medieval church heirarchy did when it was revealed that the sun didn't rotate the earth and that the earth was not the centre of the universe!
They wouldn't even look through Galileo's telescrope, and he was forced to recant his new discovery on pain of death. ...I guess you could say they were angry.
Check out anger...it is ALWAYS based on some sort of fear.
The cause of the tendency to argue over religion could be related to the fact that faith is essentially based on blind adherence to the cause and conviction rather than proof. This sets up a dichotomy because if someone of faith wants to try and convince another person that their particular faith is THE ONE TRUE FAITH they have to try and do so with rational use of unemotional language. A natural tension is the outcome which I guess the neural pathways cannot deal with,hence you get a breakdown in discourse. The result is emotive language, colourful language, as you find in most forums.
You could argue that faith, which cannot be analysed or reduced, and is engrained through ritual and conditioning, is analagous with belief, say,of a sports fan that their team is THE ONE TRUE TEAM. No amount of debate or discourse or argument will shift that belief. It becomes sort of tribal and final. GOD IS ON OUR SIDE as the lyric says.
There are many here on the forums who love nothing more than to set the hive going with a loaded question or an obvious wind up. I tend to let them have the field because I know what the final outcome will be. Yes, you guessed! Mud slinging of the worst kind!
'Intelligent discourse' is something of an ideal but you never know,one of these days.....
People become entrenched in their believes. Anyone that raises a different ideology or sheds light on what might not be true/right with one's religion unknowingly threatens one's spiritual foundation. Although it makes no sense to almost engage in physical altercation due to someone views differing from someone else's makes no sense, one's religion is part of one's identity. Although this is an emotionally charged subject there is no need for one to loose their cool over a difference of thought or belief system. One can always agree to disagree without going ballistic. People must also understand that you can not force your beliefs or thoughts on others. If you want to further the mission of your religion then plant the seed and move on. You can't attempt to plant a seed by dropping it on the ground and stomping it into the soil.
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