I think our entity has three distinct layers. We are a body, a spirit and a soul. Our body is obviously... our material body, our spirit is the life force or energy that brings us alive, and our soul is something connected to the divine (God, if you please). Our soul is the part that makes us strive for the good. Those who are selfish, ignorant or wicked, someone killed their souls.
Don't look at me like that. You asked for it.
Every person has a soul. Our mind, will and emotions constitute the soul.
I believe I AM Soul, not that I HAVE one. Could be confusing, perhaps, but Soul is ME. The BODY I (as Soul) am using is no more than a jacket, to be changed at need (and/or will).
i think the soul is our spirit self. our physical self is just the sausage casing, if you will. the spirit self is also like a big pilot light and when it goes out, you exit your physical body and move on to your next life.
Traditional Christian teaching indicates that we take on a spiritual aspect when we die. Many saints, for example, have reputedly visited individuals, coming back themselves from the after-life and being seen as human beings. We know, however, that the body eventually perishes when we die, so those holy people are viewed spiritually - their souls only being viewed in a physical sense.
The Resurrection of Jesus is associated with the soul phenomenon. Tradition tells us that Jesus went to Heaven body and soul, and he is the exception, of course. Nevertheless, he paved the way for believers to join him, but only as souls until the end of the world.
We are souls and we take bodies. The bodies that we souls take perish but we souls travel from one birth to next birth taking with us the good and bad we had done in each birth. When a soul takes a body it is called birth and when a soul leaves a body it is called death.
Yes,we--you, Kim, and I anyway (not speaking for the rest)--we have souls.
I think the soul is what makes you you and it's what makes you do the good/positive/right things you do whether you think you want to or not. Conscience and soul I think are connected.
I see a few of you went off on a tangent. just answer the question. It's a yes/no question. if you Do answer no then you describe the soul.
The rest is tangential and only serves to give other people the chance to give you sh*t.
Just look up above for a fine example of someone deciding to give someone sh*t because they went beyond just answerign the question.
I do believe we have souls.
I think its our entity our being itself that dwells deep within us.It is our spirit/essence
Some Christians believe when you die it goes on to God.
I hope this isn't taken wrong Everyone has a soul irrespective of God or a belief in him.
I don't think we ever lose it when we die we lose only our physical body, depending on what we indulge in...like evil,wicked,horrible the channel to the soul is blocked and people like that forget they have one and their self worth.
I say this because not all vile people choose to be, various situations in their life may have caused them to become that way.
Hope I make sense?
I believe so. In a way, living beings are mechanical and like machines. However, I don't think we are just wonderful machines made by nature (or God), depending on your perspective.
I think there's that something else that makes us 'alive' and 'conscious/aware,' particulary us humans. I think that something is the 'soul."
I would define the soul as energy. Its hard to define it exactly, as we don't see it or can study it. However, that's about the best that I can fathom it as!!
One of my favorite musings for the soul is from Plato, who said the soul was three parts; the logos - mind, the thymos - emotion, the eros - desire.
Of course, despite Plato, the many other musings of philosophers and the many claims from believers, the soul has never been demonstrated to exist.
Clearly, many wish to believe it to exist, but they cannot even offer a plausible explanation as to what the soul comprises. Some say it is the mind, yet we have a brain to explain the mind. Some say it is a spirit, yet no spirits have been demonstrated to exist, either.
So, most likely the soul is a faith based belief that allows believers to believe they're immortal and will live forever once their bodies have died.
I don't think we 'have' a soul, I think we 'are' a soul. I think the cocoon we call our human body isn't what we are, but what we are in.
yes i do have a soul. i am a spirit with a soul , living in a body.
Of course, and beautiful but it has nothing to do with all of that christian crap
I don't know Kimberly. Some times I think we do, some times - we don't, depending on the amount of shit I see around
Of course we have a soul! Our body stays on earth when we die our souls go to heaven or hell.
ouch that was a horrible thing to say OMG! I wish I could report you but I believe it's now my problem, not HP's.
Your not funny and I have taken great offense to your words MOVE ON MEAN MAN!
Been as close as I want to, to that particular event. So, don't try and pass the buck, like you usually do. Again, what is with you, interjecting into other people's conversation. That's twice today and you've been on under 2 hours, if that.
Stay out of my conversations. Other than that- Have a great day!
Not close enough. Not passing the buck but educating you.
Human, you have no knowledge for which to educate me with. You're too funny! There isn't anything about my life, that you could possibly know about that I don't already know.
Therefore, you're arrogant/ignorant remarks are useless, because I've seen through the HOAX of GOD. So, please take your trash talk elsewhere. You proclaim enlightenment, so you can personally gain from whatever knowledge you do have and to no benefit of others. Your words are untruths, perpetuated by your religious view.
Nice try. I've been re-born(not in the sense you're talking, but in the real sense of the word) and my eyes are open. So, enjoy!
If I didnt have knowledge I wouldn't get ranked so highly, simple logic.
What you don't know is enlightenment, god and death something I do know .
Have written a book sharing my knowledge and this will benefit humanity. Be open minded and learn.
God is not a hoax, because you haven't found god doesn't mean god doesn't exist, that is ignorance and arrogance.
You just don't know when to leave well enough alone. That shows you are not too bright. What part of anything I've said to you, don't you get.
Your knowledge has not effect/affect on me. Use your simpleton ways on the weak minded, like you're use to. Don't try getting into an intellectual battle with me. Your wits are not that good to begin with.
And, as for how you got to be so highly ranked, is be there is enough bullsh## in your musings to attracted weak minded people who have trouble understanding their own life, so you try to get them to agree with you. No matter how much you have beat it into their brain...you just keep coming.
You need a serious wake up call and sooner or later, it will be given to you. This I have no doubt. Again, like I've already told. Leave me alone and go choose someone else to bother. You are becoming more of nuisance than you're actually worth.
Have a nice day and leave it at that. Get the hint!
You can NOT prove GOD exists. Therefore, your words are lies.
And, I don't have to prove GOD exists or doesn't exists. In real life, imaginary things don't affect living things. Your god, just like everyone elses, is imaginary. I don't care how you dress it up.
In reality- GOD doesn't exist and you can't prove he does. So, this is now over.
You don't know god doesn't make me a liar.
You brought up something that got me thinking. I think imaginary things affect living things on a daily basis. I think all starts from the imagination or lack of.
I died became the Light and came back, for me it was a very real experience and not imagination of any kind.Then I read a lot and realized many have experienced this in every part of this planet , from all religions as well as atheists.I was an atheist and stayed way from religious and spiritual places as I thought they were all nuts..
You were a soldier I am sure some of your experiences will not connect with me and I could say imagination which would be wrong.
I live in a real world, with real people. Therefore, if you want to bring in an imaginary friend to play....your friend would have to be real, in order to play.
Mind games are for people like you, who don't truly understand life. I also find it interesting that you take this tact with me, by answering my question to someone else.
Do you know how to stay out of other people's conversation or didn't your parents ever teach you the difference between being polite or being rude?
If you want to bring your sad "GOD" idea into reality, you must first prove his exists. And, since you don't know how to do that or can't do that....then guess what. You are SOL!
Have a great day.
Reality says "GOD" doesn't exist. Science says there is a possibility for the 'existence' of "GOD", but only leaves the door open, so it can continue to do it's work without interruption from religious influence.
Before you decide to bring what you think you know, into a conversation....you might consider doing what I do, before getting into the conversation- think about it, and I mean the whole concept....for which, you can't wrap your mind around, much less anything else, and understand it for what it is and what it is not. Since you're arrogance and ignorance are in your way to understanding. I can understand why you're actually blind about this subject.
Either way, you too can now go away, because you're not much better than Mohit, and his minions of GOD worshippers. Have a great day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reality says "GOD" doesn't exist. Science says there is a possibility for the 'existence' of "GOD", but only leaves the door open, so it can continue to do it's work without interruption from religious influence.
Have you ever hear of the particle accelerators?
Thank You I will have a great day. This reality guy you say was talking to you...where does he live? Can I talk to him as well or does he only talk to you?
I agree with Haunty. I think the soul is the part that tells us right from wrong, too.
If it's your conscience, what about those who don't know right from wrong then? Do the have no conscience? Just wondering.
Those who don't know right from wrong, do have a conscience, they refuse to acknowledge it.
Your hub about intelligence is definitely in accordance with how you act. I'll be back to read it to the end when I have more sense about me. For now, it seems to me that you have a strong and rigid view of how things are in the world, with more benefits than drawbacks.
They are "past feeling". They have ignored their conscience so many times that they no longer can tell the difference between right and wrong. It is a matter of choices IMHO.
Absolutely I do... They say everyone loses exactly 21 grams of weight in the exact minute they die. I would like to think that is the soul moving on...
What is a conscience? How do we know it's not the same as a soul? We can't see it or measure it. How do we know it exists?
The conscience is a reasoning mechanism in your brain, which tells you in advance, if something is right or wrong. It is not the same as a soul, even by definition.
We can't see it or measure it? Yes, you can measure your conscience and you can see it every time you choose to act.
How do we know it exists? First, it would be helpful to know you have one, so you know it exists. Acknowledging it is the first step toward internal guidance.
Excellent points! I would agree that our consciousness is our soul as I would view it.
That can easily be refuted. If that part of the brain that is our conscience was damaged or removed through surgery, which most certainly has occurred, does that mean we no longer have a soul?
That person left as a vegtable, perhaps is a souless cocoon. The human body with no mental capacity may indeed be a good example of a souless body.
All you've managed to do is add confusion by replacing the word 'consciousness' with 'soul' - which isn't very useful considering the word 'soul' has a great deal of asserted explanations and definitions well beyond that of consciousness.
Uh, reading comprehension issue, Mikel? See my post there.
Ok my thoughts are this.
1) this thread was about whether we have a soul or not.
2) You threw the mind and the concepts of the mind into it.
3) Someone else stated that the 'Mind' was another way of giving a name to what we call the soul...
4) I don't follow how 'I' have added the word soul to a debate about the existence of a soul.
5) I believe your addition of the word 'mind' may however be an example of what your trying to accuse me of...???
6) A person in a vegative state 'may be' a good example of a souless body.
Yes, and I tried to explain to you that the vegetative state one may be in is already defined and that the definition of the 'soul' which most here are purporting to exist is well beyond that cognitive state.
Again, you're free to believe that part of the brain which governs our consciousness is the soul, but you only add more levels of confusion by doing so.
Nope, and you didnt try to explain, you simply stated that is what and how you believe.
I never said that piece of organ tissue is the soul. that organ may be , what the soul communicates through however...
I provided an answer, Mikel. I talked about the damaging or removal of the brain that governs consciousness. Have you never heard of that occurring? It has absolutely nothing to do with what I believe. Kapeesh?
Then, what exactly IS the soul if not that organ tissue?
The soul for now is a pink unicorn, a fairy in the bottom of the well... It is a magical and mystical entity, one that cannot be proven or dis-proven to exist. It is that divine spark, that part of humanity that is not corporeal, that which God gave to us that makes us a creature in the likeness of God.
In other words, you have no idea and are just regurgitating faith based beliefs.
You should have just said so at the get go.
Why do you feel the need to change my words? The words I used stated my position, the use of other words changes what was said...
In response no, 'in other words' is not what i'm saying.
I do have an Idea, and a belief. I'm not regurgitating faith based beliefs. If that was what I was saying I would have used those words. The forum question...Do you think we have a soul, and if so what is it...
Soul is being aware of an inner and higher you and then you have the super soul or god ,the cosmic you in totality.This boils down to perception or ones outlook or awareness or consciousness levels.
The Holy Vedas categorises the human species in a few thousand according to different consciousness levels. The highest being the ones who have awakened to this Light within and without.
Speaking for myself only, without proof or logic, not based on any particular belief....I am a soul Holly
Animals go about doing what they were created for. They have a body and a soul. On the other hand human beings belong to a spiritual realm and have a body, a soul and a spirit. The need to reach out to God is unique to mankind. You will never see a beehive, a pack of wolves or a school of fish involved in worship.
Because we operate both on a physical and spiritual realm we can percieve the physical world with our five senses (sight, hearing, smell, touch and taste) but we have to approach the spiritual world with our spirit. Unfortunately for some that spirit is dead and needs to be born-again. I'll stop there. Suffice to say you still have your conscience to distinguish right from wrong.
No, I don't think.
I once experienced something astral projection-like though.
our mind is our soul. After death , only the body is lost , our soul lives
My response to this is to think of a basic rule of science. Nothing is created or destroyed, it simply moves from one state of being to another. The spark that animates this body of mine cannot be destroyed by the death of this body as science tells us nothing is destroyed just changed or transfered if you will. What exactly happens to this spark is anyones guess as far as I can tell. Does it maintain a sense of self? Does it return to a bigger whole? The mystery will be discovered by each of us when we transcend this physical state of being and not before.
Agreed, well said. Many religions like to claim the absolute of knowing what happens at death to gain followers. One of their biggest recruitment tools.
yeah they idiots, when they believe in soul they failed to believe they don't die.
I am glad you liked my post. I actually love the mystery of not knowing as opposed to the absolute knowing of religion. They mystery of it all makes life a lot of fun for me. I have a job where I help keep kids safe crossing the road to and from school and I often wonder if I will someday get to see what would have been had I done a different job. Its a kinda Buddhist zen feeling, what could have been and what was ya know? Anyway I think the possibilities give hope and the claims of absolutes give fear instead.
I agree with you that the mystery is better. If we had everything in life already defined for us, I don't think there would be any use in learning new things or expanding ourselves.
Try not to get banned by the 'Banning spree' !
I stopped replying to this 'prophet' just in case.
Let him dig his own grave !
that's what I think!
There are a lot of interesting hubbers to talk to here in HP
Lets not waste our time. Anyway everybody knows mohit by now ! and his book ranking as well !
And you are the only ones here who abuse me. :)Your philosophy in life is weird , this is a religious forum and my work is also ranked in top 10 Poetry inspirational and religious books so please understand my work will benefit humanity, I have to spread the knowledge I have gained and the day will come when you thank me for it.
Yes, asylums everywhere are full of people who make the same claims. No one is thanking them, though. But, they go on believing they are the greatest thing to ever haunt mankind, notwithstanding.
Errmmm.... you don't think that may be just a tad egotistical?
I mean, I am one of the most 'religionists' hubbers here and frankly I would say that if your 'work' is so needed by 'mankind' you should have it available for free download, not try to charge $1.50 for it, just have a donations button on the page and trust that your god will ensure that you never need to want for anything.
It works for all my friends.... try it?
I am going to make a web site and do just that in the next few weeks , reading about it currently.I don't control many prices and in some places it the cheapest I could price it.
Also put up a free download on scribd on Christmas
My work, god will look after me
You can get a free website, with free hosting here:
after all if your product is free, why pay to give it away...
Thank you or the info but I must live off my work as well balance the spiritual and material aspects of life.
Maybe you are working for the wrong god? my God tells me that He will provide ALL my needs, and He does...
I charge for nothing that I do for Him, for His people, and never have, I TRUST that Christ will recommend me to God and that my provisioning is secure.
You would need to sell many copies at $1.50 to make a living, or are you living in a low cost of living area?
Don't get me wrong Mo, I am not attacking you, but you make some outlandish claims, and those claims need to be established by the life you lead, or they could lead others to take the worng pathways...
Aguasilver I am currently doing a job in an IT company which keeps me going along with my book sales but I have earned much more earlier in the Merchnat Navy and business.Living okay ,nothing great.
Took me years of contemplating and meditating to put my book together.I was called mad by my family and friends and totally stopped everything except work on my book as I couldn't afford to have any distractions.
I became broke as I wasn't earning for many years and I really didn't care.Now I want my life back in one way, the material aspect, balance.
Spreading god knowledge may be alien to you but it isn't spamming. You are all so cheap now thats how you will try and discredit me.Look ate my work, the knoweldge I am imparting is good and not something bad.Can you possibly add something intelligent to this debate so it goes ahead.
You're talking about the prophet who sells a $1.50 self published ebook?
I agree with you, stay silent and stay sane!
All prophets and enlightened ones do know and it is their basic message and spread knowledge of this light, One.Religions are formed by groups of people appreciating and following one of these knower of god.
Very nice and yes one will need to experience death in order to understand what happens when one dies and what is god or the self.
One goes back to his source which is a fine light, intelligent love tissue with no beginning and no and ,timeless.
Spiritual books inspire man to meditate and find the meaning of death, self and god.They reveal subtler secrets and a deeper meaning of life.
Not sure now but we're all bound to find out laterz won't we?
Anytime ,I had my experience at the age of twenty four.
Each person is going to answer this question differently. I have never met two intelligent people who could agree absolutely to an answer to a question like this. I think each of us has our own idea of the truth and each person's beliefs are relevant. Arguing one's position on a question like this is an exercise in futility. You will never completely convince your opponent of your views, not absolutely! There is something that causes us to continually ask ourselves this question. I do not believe it can be answered correctly by anyone. I believe there are many names for the same thing depending on whether you are looking at it from a religious perspective, a scientific perspective, or a psychological perspective, but no matter what someone wants to label it I do believe the soul exists.
But, that is entirely the point, there is no "it" to label.
You didn't get the point.He is saying that souls do exist.
Something causes humans to question things. I do not know if there is a "soul" that moves on to different realms after death.
I am aware of myself as an individual and I do feel emotions like guilt and happiness. I am me yet I know that my life is also interlocked with every other thing in existence. What is "IT" that makes me aware!
You mean the mind , something not tangible as well?
By my example you call the "soul" the mind that is fine by me.
Sorry, but the mind is the brain and is not a soul.
I am so naive science can prove the existence of the mind?
1. The human consciousness that originates in the brain and is manifested especially in thought, perception, emotion, will, memory, and imagination.
2. The collective conscious and unconscious processes in a sentient organism that direct and influence mental and physical behavior.
3. The principle of intelligence; the spirit of consciousness regarded as an aspect of reality
Consciousness is the bottom line, it varies and some have a lot of god kowledge while others don't.
A humble view of one's own importance
It has been my experience through our engagements that you're not really interested in discussion or learning anything and that your entire motive for being here is to profit from your writings. Nothing you have responded to me has been anything that follows along with the discussion, but only gets deferred to your writings, which you deem to be the greatest writings ever conceived.
So, unless I see some change in your motives to actually contribute to the discussions here in a meaningful capacity, please consider this my last response to you.
I disagree, the Brain is the physical part/organ of the human body. The mind are the ideas, thoughts and feelings that cannot be proven to exist, but are identified by brain.
Your disagreement most likely can be distinguished by some learning on your part. Here's a start which I "thought" might be relevant to your capacity:
"Scientists believe that the amygdala is responsible for emotion." quoted from link!
Everyone has the right to their own beliefs.
Why are there not similiar debates among the other creatures of the earth, they also have brains. What makes humans question things like this. My dogs only ponder three things eating sleeping and of course emptying.
Do your dogs not ponder the joy of chasing cats or large sticks? One of my dogs as a kid did more then ponder the joy of smelly socks, he indulged in the pleasure of stealing them!
My dogs seem to play spontaneously. They only ponder on their food or where to lay down or when to go out. Everything else seems to be just going with the flow. Although I am starting to suspect my Chihuahua is a Zen master incognito.
The Neocortex in our brain that allows logic and thinking to occur is much larger than that of a dog, hence dogs have some capacity for intelligence just as many other mammals with Neocortex development. Their odor-processing region of the brain is four times larger than ours, demonstrating the dogs ability to smell over ours.
But, it's not just the brain size, it is also how it's wired and how it developed. Our brains evolved to learn languages while the dogs brain evolved to interpret scent, hence a large part of it's brain processes are devoted to such.
So, in order to answer your question, we would also have to answer the question as to why dogs don't think the same as whales, who also have a similar brain but have evolved differently from dogs.
This is not a religious question although I am aware of the category I do not mean it in the religious sense.
How does mankind differentiate between good and evil and can it be viewed in the material world or only in the ethereal world of one's thoughts? Do animals ever show the same capacity?
Good and evil are discussed ad nauseum in religious scriptures in which the good of one religion are the evils of another. So, those concepts appear for the most part to be of a religious nature and one of absolutes, as can be demonstrated with the ten commandments and sin.
From an evolutionary standpoint, humans have by trial and error come to the realization that working with one another while trying to make sure we don't harm others is beneficial to our survival. Those who don't wish to work with others and wish to harm others in order to survive could very well be considered evil, if that's the label one desires to attach.
Yes, many animals show varying levels of the same evolutionary characteristics of working together and not harming others. Some do not. Again, it all depends on the development of their brains and their environment in which they survive.
Electric! Religious folk call it the divine spark. Non-believers might think of the soul as the electrical charge that jumps around inside the brain and outlives the flesh and blood part of us. I suppose if radio signals cannot be destroyed but go on into outer space forever (somewhere on another planet an astronomer has picked up a Superman radio broadcast of the 1950s and is wondering if the man of steel will someday pay them a visit)...Maybe the same is true when it comes to our electrical impulses. Maybe they go on...Energy cannot be destroyed. It can at best or worse be transformed into another type of energy. Chemical to electrical and so on.
A scientist might say these electrical impulses in the brain relate to science and not religion and therefore the point is not valid. You can make up your own mind I suppose.
To quote Derek Prince, one of Gods most diligent men:
The spirit of man comes directly from God and relates directly to God. In the original pattern of creation, there was a descending relationship. God moved upon man’s spirit; his spirit moved upon his soul; and his soul directed his body. Through man’s rebellion, however, his spirit was set aside and his soul took over control. As a result, unregenerate man is controlled by the three functions of his soul: the will, the intellect and the emotions.
When God reconciles man to Himself, His purpose is to restore the original order, by which He once again relates directly to man’s spirit; man’s spirit in turn moves upon his soul; and man’s soul moves upon his body. This explains the words of David in Psalm 103:1: Bless the LORD, O my soul.
Through faith David’s spirit had been reunited with God and was eager to worship Him. So his spirit stirred up his soul to move upon his vocal organs to utter the appropriate words of worship.
So long as man remains in submission to God and his soul remains in submission to his spirit, man functions in harmony with God and with himself. But if at any time man reasserts his rebellion against God, his soul is no longer in submission to his spirit and the inner harmony is broken. This means that there is constant tension between the spirit and the soul.
The Greek of the New Testament has a special adjective, formed directly from the word for soul, psuche, which describes action initiated by the soul.
The adjective is psuchikos.
The natural way to render this in English would be soulish, but unfortunately English has not produced such a word.
Consequently, English translations of the New Testament have used a variety of different words:
without the spirit.
and a phrase,
to follow their natural instinct.
English readers, who cannot get behind the translations, therefore have no way of knowing that these seven different words or phrases all translate one and the same Greek word.
i feel that when god breathed into Adam the breath of life, he then said "you are a living soul" so we are souls.
OLD MAN old soul, nothing goes off at death, we are souls, poor souls some of us
This is a great question Lyrics and after reading 2 pages of off subject crazy talk, I wanted to answer your question with of course...my opinion.
I truely believe our Souls do move on and we take with us the knowledge of our pasts and are reborn to learn what we couldn't in the past. I believe that is were the term "old souls" came from and of course those "deja vu" moments that can't be explained.
When the lesson is learned, an Angel get's her Wings...
I also do believe that our Souls do have a mate, whether they have met in the past or have yet to meet and some have already met...lalalalala
I always saw the soul as that connection between ourselves and divine.
The divine being inexplicable, the soul is also, in a way, beyond explanation.
The divine can mean science, God, deities, a book, or whatever you think stands above our "true" perception, or the "naked" eye.
The soul can be recognized most easily in acts of empathy, whether watching someone hit the lottery and jump up and down; watching someone sitting on the sidewalk, ripe with starvation; or seeing someone in a torture chair. Hearing a man screaming in pain in the next room will unearth a bit of your soul.
It's basically your ability to see the common denominator between yourself and other humans beings, animals or beings of this world. An internal interpretation of external qualities; the means of interpretation that stand outside of scrutiny itself.
Soul is another name for consciousness, the awareness of yourself and the fact that we are alive. It is the energy in our body that keeps us alive. Once we die all the chemical reactions in our body stop and that energy or soul cease to exist. When people experience near death experiences they are experiencing a sudden drop in that energy level in their brain and are seeing their body image collapsing. But as far as what happens after we die, we all will find out one day or there may not be anything after we die. No one really know.
Why James Brown? I don't understand the reference...
Just no hope, if people are unable to recognize their soul, God or demons, theres no hope, they are just kinda lost.
2012 is a spoof, Hell is undefined, both are irrelevant if your comment was to be true.
Assumption at it's best. Better come up with rational way instead of making it that way.
No hope for what? LOST???! Did you recognize your soul, God, and demons? Are there demons under your bed? Are there demons under my bed? So your soul-God-and-demons are all playing continuously in a realm that is invisible. Sounds like you're trying to trick me!
I always wanted to put a billboard up outside the church saying:
then in small print underneath...
(Free to first time applicants)
I suppose soul selling is fine. Gotta watch out for Indulgences, though!
Yes, I believe we do. Now determining what a soul is presents a challenge. I am not sure anyone can truly offer up an explanation that leaves the majority of us satisfied. Perhaps, it is the pureness of ones being, the immortal part of them that is to inhibit this universe forever. Through the beings actions and decisions over the span of their life it is either enhanced, degraded, or remains in a neutral state of purity. This would offer up an explanation of ones soul going to heaven or hell, as well as explaining that those who die as newborns or young children have not yet corrupted this pureness that rest within. Of course this theory has many holes, but it is simply the best I can put into words my beliefs at this moment.
There absolutely has to be a distinction between the body and a soul. Without a division between the two we would be more aware of things happening in the body. There is also a separation between the soul and spirit. My life force (spirit) operates separately from my soul (conscience)
When our spirit and soul comes together in agreement this is what some people call being at one with self, or at peace with self.
Anyone that can not recognize a division of self and body has more problems than they know. Self is, spirit and soul contained within a physical body. A rose by any other name is still a rose, call it what ya want.
We don't HAVE a soul, we ARE a living soul. This is one area that I can't believe so many Christians get wrong. Now, if you're an atheist skip past this part. If you're a Christian, keep reading.
Genesis states that God created Adam from the dust/dirt, and then breathed into him the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Never says anything about God giving a person an 'immortal soul, or immortal spirit'
Obviously this means I believe in the concept of soul sleep.
So if this is true what happens when we die? You just see black?
I believe that we do, yes. I used to be Buddhist thinking. They have the 'Anatta' doctrine, which means, "no soul". (They're always a bit stumped when you ask them who or what is 'reborn' if there is no soul.) I no longer think that way. Just yesterday, I was at an exhibit called Body Worlds 2, where they display plastinated bodies with various organs and systems visible, (controversial in itself). The thing I came away with, principally, is that the displays confirm the presence of a soul by it's obvious ABSENCE from the bodies being shown. That is, we are more than the sum of our bodies, as magnificent as they are---the soul is the presence that observes the "I" thought.
There are two basic philosophies , the first has atma or soul and param atma or super soul or god.
The other only refers to it as atma or spirit , there is no division.
Both are correct.
The Anatta doctrine is. literally, 'no soul'. It's referred to again and again in the Pali Cannon, which are the earliest extant teachings attributed to Gotama. The Majima Nikaya or "Middle Length Discourses" are a good place to sample the core Buddhist teachings. They form the basis of Theravada Buddhism, which is the more traditional. Later, of course, the Mayayana schools all came up with versions of Buddhism, but remain true to most of the basics. The Atman and Brahman are Hindu concepts, construed by Buddhism as "little soul" and "universal soul", and are thus in direct contradiction to the Anatta doctrine. Both extremes, are avoided (I am nothing/I am everything), and they take the 'middle path'. The Buddha was steadfast in not taking any 'views'.
Anyway, Happy New Year!
Soul is the inner light of each of us. Our soul reflects and shine trought our bodies. We all have soul which makes us complete.
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