Should we censor certain bible passages?
eg (Deuteronomy 22:20-22) But if the thing is true, that evidence of virginity was not found in the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done an outrageous thing in Israel by whoring in her father's house. So you shall purge the evil from your midst. “If a man is found lying with the wife of another man, both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman. So you shall purge the evil from Israel.
Strange that an atheist should come to the defence of Christianity (cough, splutter - there goes my reputation as a sceptic), but I seem to recall the claim (from my days as a Christian in the dim and distant past) that the New Testament supersedes the Old Testament (where applicable), and that particular rudimentary violent instruction is countered by John ch. 8 vv. 1-11.
Notably part of verse 7: He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
And part of verse 11:
And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
Not sure that some of the other stuff in Leviticus and Deuteronomy are that easily contradicted though.
The 10 Commandments are in the old testament!
Most Christians actually accept the bible as a (whole) from Genesis to Revelations. Just as many sermons are preached form the old testament as the new. There are many denominations of Christianity.
The Law handed down to Israel by Moses prescribed certain observances, and this punishment for fornication was one of them. That was part of the Old Covenant. However, the New Covenant of Jesus Christ has washed away the cruel dictates of the Law.
Agreed if seeking justification for this or that one only need to discover the covenants themselves as an order with thoughts leading toward behaviors. Perhaps I am misguided . . . I dun'no . . .
I don't think any "holy" book should be banned, but I do think humanity should stop relying on these books of old stories for guidance on how to live in a modern world. They should be used as literature and as a guide to how people thought in historic times and that's it.
Why so many turn to books that are thousands of years old to learn about life and themselves is beyond me. Why not look at modern texts, go out and live in the real world etc. Would be look to ancient manuscripts for instructions on anything else modern? No. We would explore, use ingenuity and grow and develop new ideas/technology. Yet for some reason, many are stuck on the idea of the Bible as a guide. (Most of these people haven't read it thoroughly or cherry pick though)
Time for humanity to grow and evolve past religion and mythology (yes the Bible and other holy books blend many of the same myths into their stories, but that's a whole other topic!) into something greater. We can't reach our own potential as a species so long as we are beholden to ancient laws and superstitions.
" I do think humanity should stop relying on these books of old stories for guidance on how to live in a modern world."
Thank God we have separation church and state! Otherwise we'd be putting people to death for working on Sunday!
Why censor it? Because it has a number of things that it commands done or condones that are frowned upon or are downright disgusting?
That its views of women and treatment of women is questionable at best and disgusting at worst?
If we censor these things, then all we get is the 'fluffy bunny' version of the Bible, of Christianity - the version that many people would rather you saw. I know that countries change their history books (particularly the US I'm told) to make themselves look better - why do it to a Holy Text? Shouldn't a loving religion be just that despite its history? If you're censoring it, you're hiding it and if you're hiding it, then you're ashamed of it.
People would still stay that Islam is at times violent even if the Koran were censored - and hell, many point to the violent verses as proof, yet neglect to see that Christianity is as violent but 100yrs ahead - if we censor the Bible, the history of its violence disappears. - we'd either need to do it to all holy texts or leave everything as is.
Surry censoring would then make it false - because it is not being wholy truthful?
Either have freedom of speech and belief or censorship, but you don't get to do part-way.
And if you want true offensiveness, look at ISIS quoting the Koran AND killing homosexuals throwing them off roofs in 2015.
It isn't the religion - it is the practitioners. And it isn't Christians killing homosexuals.
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