Why do Christians hate Atheists so much?
I mean, religious freedom is a human right, but is it wrong for anyone who isn't a Christian to have religious freedom too?
If you look past the whole condemning to hell stuffs and the condescending attitudes, its obvious that they secretly lovey dove the atheists <3.
But some atheists have condescending attitudes themselves, and a lack of tolerance for people who aren't "open minded" and "enlightened" like them. And one could argue that they secretly believe in God
I don't really see an issue with a lack of tolerance for non open minded people. The internet is a thing nowadays.
Some atheists surely "secretly" believe in God...unless they tell you they don't and give solid reasons as to why. Repeatedly. Alot.
Face it, Link - the believers cannot understand the concept of non-belief, no matter how many times we say it. We do not believe in a god or gods. Over and over and over and over and over and over...
The hell stuff is crazy. However I think "tough love" is very appropriate. Why? To promote religious intolerance is an inhuman act as it is cultural genocide. This has to be treated with vigorous blunt criticism.
I don't hate atheists. I've loved many of them and pray for them.
It's because the Bible tells us so. My parents were extremely religious Evangelicals, and they taught us to fear anyone who didn't believe in God, because that person was a demon, sent by the Devil to trick us into giving our souls to Satan.
So as a survival tactic, I was fearful of atheists because they were using their connection with Satan to cause me irreparable harm. And why would they want to do something like this? Just plain evil...those atheists...
Also, when you talk to an atheist, he/she will eventually make more sense than the Bible, and that causes Cognitive Dissonance...which we were told to ignore, because it is a trick from Satan. These atheists are so evil...trying to trick us into roasting in Hell for eternity.
I was taught that Satan is a brilliant deceiver. And we must fear Satan, so eventually the fear turns to hatred. Hatred of Satan....and his demons.
I honestly can't even tell if this is satire or serious...
I don't think it is serious, Kayla. It's just the way Evangelicals are taught to think. Education is the answer.
Haha! As crazy as this sounds, this is exactly what I was taught by my parents, the school, and community from which I came. And Im sure other Evangelicals know that I am stating the true perception. As for me, I have deprogrammed myself. Im atheist
Deprogrraming works! I wish we could deprogram all of the indoctrinated ones.
Really? I wasn't taught to think that. I was never told that atheists were demons trying to lead people away from God. Atheists are people who just have yet to know the Lord.
Loli, Then u are the exception, and not the rule. Im aware that there are some Christians who try or pretend to be tolerant to a degree. However, I have seen more who are intolerant. And no, we are not people who are yet to know the Lord. What Lord?
Peace be upon you Getitrite. Who are these most and all that you talk about? I do not think as you suggest I must. I do not know anyone who does.
Eric, Then u, and everyone that you know, are the exception. Good for u!
The people I am referring are the Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostals, and the hordes of ignorant sheep who haven't a clue about anything except what some ignorant pastors spew.
Wow I was raised in Sunday School and I cannot remember being frightened into anything. You acted right because of family and out of love. Jesus was pure benevolence. Old testament stuff came in my teens. And that was with a grain of salt.
Thats your experience Eric. But to assume that this is the prevailing attitude of most religious organizations is from an uninformed perspective. I've been to many churches, and the underlying message seems to be hostile judgement disguised as love.
I was raised in "Christian" churches, and bigotry and hatred was the underlying message being preached. Apologetics came to be specifically to apologize for slavery, stonings, witch burnings, genocide by god, evolution, and all manner of hateful acts
You need to get away from stereotyping religions as "right wing backwoods Christian " as such stereotypes lead to bigotry against all religions. It's very narrow minded and unscientific of you.
Oz, you have no clue as to what I need. Quit trying to preach to me.
Austinstar, Of course you know those were not real Christians. All the real Christians are like Eric.It seems that your and my experiences were mere isolated incidences. Wow! I guess I just kept going to the wrong churches.Whats the chances of that?
LOL Getit - it would seem that out of all the 100s of churches we went to, at least one would have interpreted the bible correctly, right? I guess we really need to go to Eric's church to learn about true Christians.
I'm surprised you haven't a heart attack, Austinstar, with all your negativity.
If someone isn't leading someone toward God, they must be leading the away. Right? You are either for or against God. You are now against Him. People can "teach" whatever, but hatred is not taught in the Bible. Maybe these people misled you about God
Not all Christians hate atheists. A lot of them are mature adults who can coexist with people who do not share their beliefs.
However, just about every group of people has its bad apples, Christians included. I've seen it for myself. Some Christians can be pretty nasty to those they perceive as different. Like anything negative, it's best to avoid them when you can.
Religious freedom is a human right. Nobody can ever take that away from you.
True, as long as they cannot literally crawl inside my brain and change my mind, I am free to think and believe with my own mind. Thank you :-)
I think it's also worth noting religious freedom includes the freedom to change one's religion or belief. I assumed that included the right to reject religion and/or the concept of God.
Yes it does, Sloane! This country was founded of Freedom of Religion! NOT on christianity as most of the misinformed believe.
That is an interesting one Austin. Were there any atheist, buddhist or Muslim signers of the declaration of independence. I don't know the answer. I would guess there were both protestant and Catholic. But I don't know.
The religious makeup of the signers of the constitution and DOI are on record, you can do a siple google search to find the demographics.
Believers hate non-believers because they have been taught to do so. They have been taught to hate anything outside of the purview of their holy books. They have been taught this starting at very young ages, therefore it is difficult if not impossible to overcome this hatred.
It's just a self-defense mechanism that will die out someday.
Wow the negative view of life is just amazing. How do you even get up in the morning?
I open my eyes and get up same as you do. Why do you think I am "negative". I grew up in a "christian" environment. This is what you teach. Your bible is so full of hate and war and killing and injustice that I cannot stand to read it.
And it is amazing that these attitudes still prevail to this day. Ergo, all candidates running for the highest offices have to, at least, pretend to believe in childish fairy tales, or be deemed un-electable. And Steve Harvey called atheists idiots.
I don't know what kind of Christian environment you grew up in, but I was never taught to hate people who were different from me. Maybe that's Islam, but not Christianity.
It's certainly Christianity as well...to what degree is debatable though.
Austin, you have no idea what I teach or what I was taught. But if I was taught like you I would be atheist also. Fair enough?
That is fair! Eric. At last, an honest answer from a christian!
Yes Austin -- I would not be a Christian if my focus was on the crap. Other Christians get upset with me but I do a strict theological diet of "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." from 1 john 4:8
Eric, I have a question about your 1 John 4:8 quote. Just out of sheer curiosity -- I know love very well (I don't have enough space to type the explanation I wanted to type), but I happen to be atheist -- what are your thoughts on that topic?
Oh I am of an opinion. I have to teach my young children about God. That is a man thing. I do not need to teach them about love, that is a man thing. Be cool and do not see God. but be cool and feel the love. It binds us together. I love, you love.
Maybe you don't know what real love is? Just a thought.
I question this stance as Eric did. Hate filled attitudes do nothing but eat away at the hater. Christ's message was to love those you consider sinners and pray for them.
Humans are prone to be centric and high-minded in their beliefs and they just hate sometimes. I do think most want to live in peace, though, and whatever thoughts they carry in private reflection is their own affair. I don't know that Christians actually "hate" Atheists, but I would pose that a significant number fear or feel frustrated by the argument Atheism presents or even that of Buddhism, which doesn't endorse any of the gods. Even those within the Christian system have denounced their own mystics as heretics and Islam tries to pretend Sufism does not exist by essentially ignoring it, so it's a no-win situation with some no matter how you look at it.
To the second part of the question, no, it is not wrong for non-Christians to have theosophical, philosophical or intellectual freedom in an open and diverse society.
Christians who hate are not following the teaching of Jesus Christ who taught us the love one another and to love our enemies and pray for them who treat us treacherously. If we love our enemies, that would include the enemy who is atheist.
Christians who hate atheist must reconsider their position, pray and seek confirmation to actually Live Jesus's Teachings by loving them. That does not mean throwing holy water on them either. It means kindness and neighborliness. You never know what kind acts and words could touch the hearts of people who will then seek Christ.
Unkind acts makes atheist hate Christians. It seems that hating Christians is the big thing now though.
Strange thing this hate. If you look it is not everywhere. Love is everywhere. I just assume your question really means why do "some" Christians hate? And indeed why so some Christians hate? It just makes no spiritual or logical sense. I think we have all heard it said hate is fear turned outward.
But of Christians it is the epitome of backwards. Love is the hallmark. Not even the crusades or inquisitions were hate - they were clearly power brokers convincing others. But not out of hate - greed and power for sure but not hate.
So I suppose we have to ask why does anyone hate? There is a lot of psychobabble about it. But it seems like a nature deal that comes with fight of flight and fear.
So the real question is "why do some Christians not follow their faith and deny hatred?" I reckon we all know the answer and that is because their faith is not strong enough to overcome a natural tendency. If you see a Christian that is full of hate toward another. Either pray for them or walk away completely. But do not mistake fervently defending their faith with hate.
Maybe it is because the bible teach the following F***ed up stuff
2 John 1:9-11
Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.
“If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
And according to the bible athiest are the anti christ and are evil
For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.
Christianity is a F***ed up religion, we should encourage people to convert away from it.
My mother taught me that people who have trouble with finding the proper words to express themselves resort to the lowest common denominator in language - cussing, I have found that it can be useful. Yours is just to antagonize. An excellent use.
So all you got out of this comment is the "f" word. Don't bother to address the real subject matter.
SO....by definition, Athiests ARE anti-God, and anti-Christ. Is that not correct? I'm not talking about unbelievers, but self proclaimed Athiests. There is a difference
An unbeliever is an atheist by the very definition is it not?
Now if you mean anti theist, you would be closer to the mark. Not all atheists are anti theist, but just about every anti theist is an atheist.
No...an unbeliever may be someone who really doesn't know what they believe. An Atheist is someone who CHOOSES to say, "There is no God". It's almost a separate, godless religion.
I grew up in a fairly religious family. I was told to NEVER question the existence of God or the Holy Book of religion X. My parents never told me "you cant be friends with someone of another religion" but they did tell me that it would be a sin to marry someone of another religion. They told me that I would be severely punished by X God if I ever questioned him. I think that this is a huge problem and a way of bullying your kids into following their beliefs. That's why I am now a happy Atheist and I would never try and shove my beliefs down someones throat let alone hate someone because of their beliefs.
Your parents were very wrong. I am sorry to read of the effect their wrongness has had on you. No matter what we were taught our beliefs and our reactions are our choice. We were given free will.
Why do atheists hate Christians so much? Any man or woman who calls himself or herself Christian should not hate but love. Love your friends and family, but above all love your enemy.
Christians don't hate Atheists. This is becoming a HUGE misconception! Actually, I have seen more hate coming from the Atheists towards the Christians.
That's because you are not paying attention to reality.
The Christians hate Atheist deal is now a rallying cry. A lot of fluff and not much truth to it. Sure there might be some but there are whackos in every crowd just look around.
I believe you just proved my point. It's not the Christians hating Atheists, it's the other way around.
I am looking for a Christian that hates atheists. I just posted a question looking for someone. I do not think there are any except for maybe a whacko or two. It just does not make any theological sense. I think it is a made up fiction.
Ted Nugent. Duck Dynasty guys, Westboro Baptist Church, Pat Robertson, Chuck Norris, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, I could go on. Now you start naming athiests that hate Christians.
I didn't know they were 'Christian'! I certainly wouldn't call the majority of them that! I know it's a big 'votecatcher' in the US but 'by their fruits you'll know them' I think Jesus said?
Gee, who couldn't see that answer coming? "Those are not real christians!" You people make me laugh.
There was a woman somewhat recently who beat and robbed a disabled guy after he told her he was an atheist...
Any details past that though I have not bothered to check up on again, do what you will.
Glad you found it funny. I don't! I tend to agree with Pope Francis on this. If they're not willing to try to live up to the teaching they shouldn't use the name!
I certainly agree! If only Christians would live up to Jesus and his teachings, then I wouldn't have an issue. It's only the "bad" Christians that should not use the Christian designation! How to tell them apart?
Austinstar, what you do not realize is that no one is perfectly good, or lives up to the teachings of Jesus. All people are sinners, so yes, Christians can be poorly behaved at times. Without Jesus's blood, no one is worthy.
That's why I put the quote from Jesus in! (Can't remember the exact verse) look for the fruit, we're all human and blow it at times but those consistently spouting 'bad fruit' avoid!
Why do you believe that people "without Jesus blood" are unworthy? You are passing an opionated judgement on non-Christians and won't even admit it. I believe that humanity doesn't need that judgement. It is hateful.
I believe we broke trust with God in Eden, but God loves Humanity enough to do something about it, if he loves us that much then shouldn't I?
I'd need a half dozen hubs to deal with it. I'd say look up Eric's hubs as they're big on Love!
Austin -- Whoa there that unworthy stuff is not about hate at all. Look it up.
Give it up. You are not going to change my mind, and I am not going to change yours. I am done. Unfollowing.
Oh no Austin you did change my mind. Probably not how you would have wanted to.
It's ironic how you're saying Christians hate atheists and here you are attacking Christians left and right.
I think not ironic but hypocritical in the most fantastic display. But that is Austin - let her be.
The simple answer is we don't! At least I don't. I've debated a lot here and really enjoyed the discussion, there were times when I saw stuff that was blatantly false that was put out by one side or the other that does annoy those of us who are genuinely interested in learning but that doesn't mean I hate the other person, I just don't accept their point!
Keep up the debating as we do learn from them!
Not all Christians hate atheists. Enlightened, progressive, liberal, & evolved Christians accept Atheists, realizing that the latter is on his/her particular moral path as they are. They maintain that each person is different & such differences should be encourage, nurtured, & respected. Such Christians feel the same towards all ethical, moral, & spiritual beliefs.
However, conservative, dogmatic, fanatical, fundamentalist, & traditional Christians have a less than positive attitude towards Atheists & those who are of non-Christian beliefs. They assert that their religious belief is the only legitimate form of belief. They may go as far to avow that those who don't believe as they do are in error, lost, & even damned. They are not above using methods of manipulation & proselytizing in order to get those whom they feel aren't with their program to conform.
Yes, there are some among the more conservative elements of Christians who actually hate Atheists because they view atheism & other forms of non-belief as inherently evil. They may even contend that Atheists somehow are in "league w/Satan" as they don't believe in God. They also have similar views of non-Christians, seeing them as somewhat amiss in the divine scheme of things. They would like nothing more than to have a worldwide Christian hegemony.
They don't. Atheists may be:
Annoyed by proselytizing
Opposed to efforts to push Christian morality into law or public policy.
Annoyed by judgmental Christians who criticize atheists
Resentful over experiences of being controlled, punished, rejected or ostracised by Christians in their own life (This occurs mostly among atheists who were once socially involved and practicing Christians)
They may hate the control that they perceived Christian leaders held over them. They may fear or hate the manipulative tactics that may have been employed to maintain that control. But that hate and resentment is much more common in younger, less-confident atheists. As an older atheist, one realizes that Christians have only as much power as you cede them.
Christians who hate Atheists should not call themselves Christians. If you are a Christian – you believe in God. If you believe in God, you believe in love. For, God is love. He loves unconditionally and does not hate and Christians strive to be like Christ. Therefore, Christians should not hate.
I grew up in a similar situation. To me, there are some "Christian" basics that are taught, but there is much more religious logic that isn't taught. The Bible has many examples of people who questioned God. In fact, in my opinion, those who DON'T question, seldom learn the truth, and never have a REAL personal relationship with God, but remain in a cookie-cutter mold, never having a true understanding of God and what he really expects from us.
I don't believe for a minute that God wants anyone to hate people. He knows that we are all formed like, having self-serving tendencies, which is the root of just about all sin. We all do wrong...different levels, different sins. To me, the Bible seems more intent on hating the sin and not the sinner.
I do believe that a Christian who has a unique walk with God (still imperfect BTW), can put their relationship in danger with God by marrying or dating someone of a different religion. That doesn't mean that we should HATE them. It also doesn't mean that God will send us to hell if we chose to marry or date someone of another religion...even Atheists.
It is sad to me that so-called "religions" have so diluted real Biblical truth to the point where people are turned away from it, and hate it. A real relationship with God is just that. I see it as a parent/child relationship. God HAS been called "our Heavenly Father" for eons, yet anyone who has children should be able to draw a clear parallel between their relationship with their kids, and their relationship with God. What parent enjoys ONLY hearing from their children when they are in trouble, and need a miracle way out? Yet we tend to look at God as some supposed genie in a bottle when we are in trouble. If we help our kids and they are thankless and unappreciative, we might do less for them the next time, but we seldom ever abandon them. We love them, and want the best for them amid the fact that they don't always please us.
There are examples of Jesus dining with and walking among those who were hated by orthodox "religions". Jesus came to earth for EVERBODY, including those who don't think they need Him. He didn't even hate those who tortured and killed Him, and uttered in death, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do". Anyone who calls that "hate" is a fool.
I dont think this could be verified by the Bible, unless you just pretend that it says just what you desire it to say. Jesus clearly talks about a different God in the New Testament, than in the Old, but says they are the same. This makes no sense..
I'm not sure what you think "can't be verified by the Bible". Most people, especially preachers, spend so much time complicating the simple. I don't understand it all myself. The part about the Father/Child relationship is almost common sense to me.
As a father, I would never allow my son to be killed just to appease a savage blood offering, that I myself put into place, when I have all the power to change that rule. What kind of father/child relationship is that?
Well, Getitrite, we were taught about the Trinity...the Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost. The logic that all three were one is difficult, but it's what we were taught. IF they three were one, Then God sent Himself to die. It's what I was taught.
Why do Atheists hate Christians so much?
Christianity is a theistic mind set. Atheism is not. Both those groups have individuals in them with strong belief in their point of views who can't hear the opposing view without a strong negative reaction. A live and let live attitude can't be maintained when some other insists on belittling and shouting down a core way of life. There is going to be conflict. And honestly there are people on both sides that chose to antagonize, belittle and literally hate the other. They LIVE to antagonize the other. We see it in Hub discussions like this all the time.
Until a certain vocal minority of Atheists and Christians can avoid reacting like matter and antimatter in each other's presence, the adversarial public discord will continue.
Hi, my share of thought is Christians do not hate Atheist. A true Christian does not hate people. The truth is a Christian is a believer and follower of Christ. Jesus. His command is to love not hate..even those who persecute you. I am reluctant to divulge more at this point. But I want to apologize to those who felt Christians hate them. I want you to know that is not true for a Christian. I just have to add this.. Jesus came to save because of love and not hate. His entire ministry speaks love, grace and compassion. Never hate and judgment. Please know your Christian. They would not have if they were. Speaking in peace.
Christians are never taught to hate. We disagree just like you disagree with us. Anyone showing hatred is not a representative of the Lord of the Bible. Our religious rights are more restricted than atheists. Trust me you can talk about your non belief in God but when people preach the Lord in high positions they get in trouble. Jewish hate crimes are higher than any other group. Also there is a Christian Genocide by the muslims going on in the middle east. I would say you are the ones who have the most freedom. How can you say otherwise?
Christians don't hate atheist. We just don't agree with their findings. It seems that atheist are the group of people that are always trying to take our religious artifacts down claiming that they offend them.
Atheist are responsible for taking prayer out of school . They won't be happy until they have completely driven God out of the world. They will someday have to answer their maker for their actions.
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